Nogales

[Chica Luv]

LjMex.

Thanks for your post. I couldn't agree more with all that you shared. I too have been trying to learn Spanish over the last year. Although far from fluent, I've improved enough to communicate as to what I am looking for.

I too love all things (women) Latin, and hope to some day own a house somewhere WAY south of the border. Say Puebla.

Speaking of Bora Bora, I had my first experience with one of those hot little gals just three nights ago. Does the name Naty sound familiar? She was definitely a "Morena de Fuego"

Next time you head down, send me a PM and I'll give you my TelCel.

Chica Luv.

Chica Love, I want to thank you for your posts over the past year.

And yes, you are correct about prices in Nogales, when I first started going down south about four years ago, (one weekend every month) , I was spending about $100 to $500 a night, between driving down, drinks for my friends and the girls, hotel / motel, massages, and food.

But that was a long time ago and a different me when I couldn't speak Spanish and had a beer gut, since then I can speak the language and have large muscles all around (thanks to Spanish classes, traveling throughout MX, the gym and no-explode)

Now, on a good night, I barely spend $50 a night,

Here's how. $ 2 bus ticket ($1 each way, from phoenix, (

www.crucero-usa.com

) , I usually meet up with one of two of my best friends (I've know one for four years and the other for two years) that live in nogales, sonora, these guys are connected w / the WHOLE CITY, we never pay to get into any strip club or night clubs, beers are always $1 to $2 dollars a pop, mostly always $1, I was always use to paying $3 to $4 at any strip club (69, obsession, belaidos, Lust) but since the past two years I have never paid more then $1 at any of these clubs for a tecate light or red.

I almost always pick up a girl at a bar called Bora Bora (on Obregon st, one block away from obsession, a bar where they have some of the most beautiful girls around town. 18 to 28 why. O, from 4 to 8. 5's) or one of the 10 night clubs past the border on obregon st all the way down south for FREE.

Taxi rides to any destination in nogales is never more then 50 peso (about $4)

Both friends have a brand new house / townhouse; one on the far west side and one on east side of town about a mile from the border and I have my own room at both there houses for free, w / my own bed, their wife's / girlfriends always cook breakfast for me in the morning and hook me up w / there girlfriends

I am not bragging about the prices or how easy it is to pick up a girl down south, I was just like you guys always paying for pussy, but what I am trying to say is learn spanish, work out, learn some game and I promise any guy can get some tail down south. (and trust me if I could do it ANYONE can)

My motivation was Mexico and all the beautiful women I was missing out on (I've been all over the world Russia, Middle East, Europe, every state in inland America (except the northwest) , and I have to say, no women can compare to Latin women, passionate, caring, loving.) (don't get me wrong, I do not like nogales at all, I think it is dirty, drug addicts, and gold diggers all over, I love any city south of Hermosillo, anyone who has any balls should travel all the way down to tepic nayarit and experience the real Mexico)

Also, I want to thank the U. S Media for scaring off all the gringos out of visiting Mexico and leaving all the chicas bonitas for me. Hope everyone has fun and stays Safe down South.

[Lj Mexico]

Chica Love, I want to thank you for your posts over the past year.

And yes, you are correct about prices in Nogales, when I first started going down south about four years ago, (one weekend every month) , I was spending about $100 to $500 a night, between driving down, drinks for my friends and the girls, hotel / motel, massages, and food.

But that was a long time ago and a different me when I couldn't speak Spanish and had a beer gut, since then I can speak the language and have large muscles all around (thanks to Spanish classes, traveling throughout MX, the gym and no-explode)

Now, on a good night, I barely spend $50 a night,

Here's how. $ 2 bus ticket ($1 each way, from phoenix, (www.crucero-usa.com) , I usually meet up with one of two of my best friends (I've know one for four years and the other for two years) that live in nogales, sonora, these guys are connected w / the WHOLE CITY, we never pay to get into any strip club or night clubs, beers are always $1 to $2 dollars a pop, mostly always $1, I was always use to paying $3 to $4 at any strip club (69, obsession, belaidos, Lust) but since the past two years I have never paid more then $1 at any of these clubs for a tecate light or red.

I almost always pick up a girl at a bar called Bora Bora (on Obregon st, one block away from obsession, a bar where they have some of the most beautiful girls around town. 18 to 28 why. O, from 4 to 8. 5's) or one of the 10 night clubs past the border on obregon st all the way down south for FREE.

Taxi rides to any destination in nogales is never more then 50 peso (about $4)

Both friends have a brand new house / townhouse; one on the far west side and one on east side of town about a mile from the border and I have my own room at both there houses for free, w / my own bed, their wife's / girlfriends always cook breakfast for me in the morning and hook me up w / there girlfriends

I am not bragging about the prices or how easy it is to pick up a girl down south, I was just like you guys always paying for pussy, but what I am trying to say is learn spanish, work out, learn some game and I promise any guy can get some tail down south. (and trust me if I could do it ANYONE can)

My motivation was Mexico and all the beautiful women I was missing out on (I've been all over the world Russia, Middle East, Europe, every state in inland America (except the northwest) , and I have to say, no women can compare to Latin women, passionate, caring, loving.) (don't get me wrong, I do not like nogales at all, I think it is dirty, drug addicts, and gold diggers all over, I love any city south of Hermosillo, anyone who has any balls should travel all the way down to tepic nayarit and experience the real Mexico)

Also, I want to thank the U. S Media for scaring off all the gringos out of visiting Mexico and leaving all the chicas bonitas for me. Hope everyone has fun and stays Safe down South.

[Chica Luv]

Ok, Ok, Ok. So yes, I have been down to Nogales several times since my last post, and yes there is still fun to be had.

My latest "haired-brained" idea.

As many of you that have read many of my posts over the months know, I have an ATF whose names is Ms. O Usually, whenever I go down she tries spending the night with me, and will continue staying with me until I tell her otherwise.

While this can be fun, it DOES cut down on my ability to experience new and different girls. So, I usually don't let her know I am in town for at least a day after I have arrive, or I tell her that I am not staying more than one night.

Oh ok, back to the HBI. Staying and Playing in Nogales is NOT as cheap as one might be lead to believe.

Let us do the math:

1- One night stay at the Fray Marcos $675. 00 pesos, approx $56. 00-60. 00US.

2- 800. 00 pesos (approx $66. 00-70. 00US) per girl / per hour. X2 per day. These are your top of the line strippers and not some girl that one of the local street guys promises to be the best you've ever had (although, at times some of those girls have been GREAT, but you never know until the show up and take off their cloths).

3-Daily eats approx $22. 00US.

4-Daily Bar tab. 1 drink per bar / per round / per shift. Confused yet? Drinks are $3-4. 00US (Club 69 will try to charge you $4. 00 per drink on the weekend during the second shift. Go figure). So doing the math, a day of clubbing 3 clubs. 1 drink per club, per hour for two shifts (six hours clubbing for two different shifts=12 hours) $3. 00X12=$36. 00.

SUBTOTAL.

$246. 00 per day. If you don't have more than one drink per club per hour, or tip anyone, or buy a girl a drink, or get a private dance. OH. Almost forgot, add $8. 00 a day to park you car on the US side and better throw in at least an extra $12. 00 a day for tips. Least everyone in Nogales knows you as the Cheap Guy.

$266. 00 A DAY! WOW. Did I say, WOW!

Now I usually like to stay for three days. X3= $798. 00 for a "Cheap Three Day" stay in Nogales. Now if you do this say once a week. Yes I have had those months, actually several of those months in a row, and the doing the math. It all adds up. 4 weeks@$798. 00 a week for the month. $3, 192. 00.

Now, there has got to be a better way!

So this brings us ALL-THE-WAY back around to my HBI.

! Rent an apartment! Not only rent an apartment, but have your ATF stripper live in the apartment you rent.

YES, there is more to the story.

During one of my ATF extended stays, lets say day two, and while we were having breakfast (1230PM). I asked her how much she pays in living expenses and taxi cost in order to work in Nogales (her family lives in a different city). After doing the math, we were both shocked at the number approx. $70, 000. 00 pesos per year.

I told her that I would rent a US a nice apartment within walking distance of her club and that she could live there for "FREE". And that by living there she would be saving 70K a year.

So, what is in it for me. I think we all know the answer to that. FREE. Well, nothing is free, but at least it will save me about $2, 772. 00 a month. Oh yea, least we forget, need to figure the cost of the apartment. Approx $300. 00US a month.

I am only saving $2472. 00 (plus or minus, if you deduct for a little strange. Every now and again). Of course over the period of a year. That is almost $30, 000. 00US.

Now, I know that there are probably lots of holes in this plan, but that is where you guys that can also think with their big heads come into the picture.

Ok, guys let's hear it.

Chica Luv

[AmanteDeLatina]

You can also go to either Los Algodones or Mexicali. The do not seem to have as much of this BS.

FYI.

With the way things are in Nogales, it almost makes more economic sense to see someone off BP and not have to put up with all the other Nogales BS.

CL

[Chica Luv]

FYI.

I visited Nogales twice in the last 10 days. The first was a Sunday & Monday, and the second was a Friday & Saturday.

I was disappointed in both visits! The streets were empty, fewer girls in the clubs, fewer customers in the clubs, and the total atmosphere had changed. Also, the MAJORITY of the customers were Mexican, and in 4-8 man groups. I. E. Drug guys on their nights off (at least that was the impression I got).

I still had fun, but not at the level that I had become use to. Will I go back? Yes, but my expectations will be much lower.

With the way things are in Nogales, it almost makes more economic sense to see someone off BP and not have to put up with all the other Nogales BS.

CL

[Lobo 003]

A shuttle service is available in Tucson and their fee used to be about 7 dollars one way. They are the passenger window vans you see running up and down I-19 usually white, to nogales and back to Tucson and cater to the hispanic community with no means of transportation. They will pick you up at your address and on the return trip deliver you back to your residence. Most offices are located on south 6th avenue and south 12th avenue in tucson. In Nogales Arizona offices are located across the street from the GreyHound bus station, right before you walk down the stairs toward the port of entry
Only drawback, last van back to Tucson is about 7 or 8 pm, no late night service
I'm sure Phoenix has the same service. Some of those vans say service to Phoenix.

This little service has helped out many of my friends from both cultures.

Be safe.

LOBO

[BeTwo4030]

Has anyone had any luck with a charter van or bus to Nogales? Just wondering with the price of fuel if anyone had taken or know where these type pick up and drop off.

[BeTwo4030]

Even though I left Club 69 early, I still found time to hit Eros Spa and Meet a Beautiful girl named Ruby (nineteen. 4'10".90 pounds, with some awesome perky B's!). There were seven girls working that night. I thought this was a lot for a Thursday but what the hell I was a Nogales virgin. Room fee of $40 and full Paid to Ruby for $80. She wanted $120 but I pulled the old Gringo trick of all I have (in this pocket) is $80. And I know what all you Nogales salty dogs are saying: Dummy could have got her for a bunch less on a Thursday. She was JUST the reason I headed down there (A Very Young Looking Mexican Hottie). She was not very GFE in phoenix terms but she definitely did the trick.

Holly [CodeWord140] was it cold!

[Marelobo Mex]

Tijuana,

I agree with you, I don't really consider myself a Chicken Sh. I have been to many cities that people say are not safe, and never really felt scared. Maybe the media is messing with me or I am getting old or something. I but I have learned from experience if I feel scared to trust my feeling and get the hell out of there. It saved me from a major knife fight in the slums of Istanbul in 1996.

I have been in that bathroon in Boleros many times. And although I really wanted to go to Nogales on this trip, I opted for the safer option in Mexicali and don't regret that decision.

Although I do hope some braver men then me visit Nogales and report on it re-emerging as a safe place. I have a real craving for Chicas from Nogles.

Marelobo

[AmanteDeLatina]

REST OF THE STORY:

What they left out of the story for the 3 dead patrons is that those gentleman were in rival territory buying the happy white powder. They contacted a street thug who then promptly aquired said narcotics and told them to meet in Boleiros for delivery. The 3 gentleman sat down to party in Boleiros, downed a few beers to have a good time and played with the girls. Upon arrival of their package they made their way to the restroom for delivery, inspection and payment of merchandise, once delivery transpired and trasaction complete hit men entered with orders to terminate said buyers. They were terminated in the restrooms of Boleiros and the assailants fled.

LOBO

That is crazy. What if one happenned to be using the restroom as they came in? Even if you had nothing to do with the transaction they would have killed you so that you would not be a witness. You could be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

This is why I no longer go to Nogales. It is on the federal governments do not travel list along with Tijuana, Cuidad Juarez, Matamoros and Reynosa. I now go to Los Algodones and Mexicali. Those 2 cities are not on the no travel list and are much more safer. In my opinion those 2 cites are just as safe as the city I live in, Tempe, Arizona as you can tell from my handle (Tempe is a suburb of Phoenix, Az). The action is a lot cheaper in those places too and the women are just as good if not better.

The cities on the no travel list are on major drug arteries to the United States. Since Nogales is close to that interstate that goes up to Tucson and has connections to Phoenix the drug traffickers tend to like it to hang out. The Los Algones and Mexicali border crossings are sort of out in the middle of nowhere. No major cities bordering them and not super close to interstates that are of interest to drug traffickers. Also, since these two cities have A LOT of medical providers (in Los Algodones I swear there are 5 dentist offices and 5 pharmacies on every square block, Mexicali has a lot of physicians that perform surgical procedures at the fraction of the cost in the United States, I actually had surgery there for a third of the cost that a doctor here in the Phoenix area would have charged) the Mexican government patrols them a lot more. They are strategic to the economy of Mexico. Also, the medical providers have all gotten together and hired private security forces to keep the cities safe because if americans go down there for inexpensive medical procedures and get killed it would sour there business. I would recommend avoiding Nogales and going to Los Algodones or Mexicali until this drug trafficking issues gets under control. This is my opinion.

[Lobo 003]

First Sudio 69 at the moment does have the hottest women around in the Nogi scene. A lot of new consruction on Calle Obregon that is almost done. It's turning out very clean looking, with less auto traffic and designed for more pedestrian traffic.

REST OF THE STORY:

What they left out of the story for the 3 dead patrons is that those gentleman were in rival territory buying the happy white powder. They contacted a street thug who then promptly aquired said narcotics and told them to meet in Boleiros for delivery. The 3 gentleman sat down to party in Boleiros, downed a few beers to have a good time and played with the girls. Upon arrival of their package they made their way to the restroom for delivery, inspection and payment of merchandise, once delivery transpired and trasaction complete hit men entered with orders to terminate said buyers. They were terminated in the restrooms of Boleiros and the assailants fled.

Be very careful in Nogi.

LOBO

[BeTwo4030]

As posted on the sister site there was a shooting in a club in Nogales a couple weeks ago.

http://www.nogalesinternational.com/...c159112622.txt

I was there last night and left Club 69 cause of high spending locals. But everyone was right. 69 had seven women that ranged 9-10 on my Viagra meter! Also stopped at Td's and was not impressed. Six girls working there just not my type. Three of which were a little heavy and one who could grow a better beard than my young ass.

Be safe and watch out.

[Lobo 003]

There is no Guau or Miau Miau in Nogales where do you guys get your info. Obsessions, Boleiros and Studio 69 is all there is for strip jonts in Nogales Sonora.

Update and Caution: 3 patrons were gunned down in the restrooms and killed in Boleiros about 2 weeks ago, I'm told a drug related hit.

Be safe...

LOBO

[2nd Chance]

I thought the Guau, Miau Miau / Route 13 and TD's were all in Rocky point?

They may be there, as well. Maybe the same owner. Not sure.

[2nd Chance]

My PM does not work on this board but I will try you on the Arizona board.

Thanks again.

If you don't have PM Privileges yet, feel free to post info right here. Just be informative so everyone can benefit from your words of wisdom. .