Nogales

[Ed...]

I agree Azrob, but "we" just aren't enough.

There's a pile of newbies all the time in Nogi, who feel they don't go that often and are getting an OK deal. They like to flash cash like MR Cool Guy of the day when really they are merely MR Chump of the night.

They must feel the need to compensate for being an un-attractive loser by paying more cash.

We can help by resisting at least a tiny bit. We'll still get laid no problem. I would like to think it helps when we ask the price for the room in back and decline.
It definitely helps to negotiate with the girl yourself in the room. She'll often take a lot less when nobody else working knows so she can let the others think what they will.
I also know it to be helpful to visit Conga, and politely decline if you see nothing you like. They will (and do) try harder to find your girl.

No offense to big spenders, just my point of view on how you look to everyone else.

Ed...

[Azrobert]

I haven't been to Nogi in a while, just seemed to be getting to expensive. Went last week and did have a good time. Cherrys does seem to be closed but I never really liked it even though it was the first club I ever visited there.
Club 69, the old Lipsticks is indeed a really nice place. Nicer than many of the clubs here in Phx but I don;t think it iwll last. It is too nice and too expensive, My buddy got a $10.00 table dance and my thought was that I could stay in phx and get more action from a table dance. Boleros and Placers seem to be the hottest places around and my two favorites. The prices are still way too high, the rates for FS are more than a girl from CL !!!
We need to stick together and refuse to pay and the prices will drop. All in all it was a great trip though and will go back soon.

[Real Romeo]

Great Report! I'm moving back to Az in the next month. Your report filled me in perfectly on all the action in Nogi. Cherries was the first place I went on my first trip there about '99 or so. Too bad if it's gone, but I'm sure the neighbors will pick up the slack. My experiences in Nogi were hit or miss, as I'm VERY picky. Anyway, thanks again for the great report.

While I'm here, Anyone have any experience with providers of any kind in Rocky point? I rented houses 2 times down there, but brought my own entertainment down with me. . Only wandered out briefly for food and alcohol. Only saw regular night clubs. Are there strip clubs down there? Thanks in advance for any info.

Be Safe

[SexHobbyist]

Wild Wind's report is terrific but it brings some bad news, if true. The demise of Cherry's is troublesome. I've had some great memories of the place--in particular the chicas. Cherry's was the first club I ever visted in Nogie. It was always the easiest on the pocketbook, too. Alas. Sigh.

I hope it's just a temporary closing.

[Joe Fab]

Henry Miller would have had nothing on you. I admire your use of the language.

All newbies should read your posts. The strategy you have with regard to setting and adhering to your self-imposed limits is so important. I think a lot of our fellow hobbyists would deign to admit they settle for less, drink too much and pay more than what they know they should.

Cheers,

Joe

[Wild Wind]

well i had an interesting and mostly successful evening in nogi last thursday.

arrived about 8pm, and my usual first stop, cherries, was closed. not closed in the sense of “not open”, i mean closed like boarded up and lookin’ like it’s out of business. cherries has gone progressively down hill since i first started going there in the late 90’s, (does anyone remember leslie?), but i could still count on it for some raunchy fun with nasty girls. i had come to rely on benjamin, who has been a waiter there since my first visit, to always set me up with the chicas who would give great mileage. maybe its’ closing is just temporary (didn’t pay off the right people). if not i’m going to be sad to see it go. anybody have any info on the situation?

so i changed tactics and launched the evening at bolero. i have become friendly with a guy who works there named carlos. he speaks good english (spent time married in wisconsin but got into some trouble there and had to come back to mex). carlos wasn’t there and the talent was undergoing a shift change. (always interesting to see them coming and going out in their street clothes – most of them look a lot better in their dancer get-ups and some of them you wouldn’t look twice at on the street). i had a beer, tipped three or four dancers at the rail in exchange for the brief boob-fondle and kiss that i enjoy, and moved on, figuring i’d hit it again later.

a tout picked me up immediately outside the door and wanted to take me to studio 69, in the former lipsticks. i had stepped in briefly on my last trip and it was dead, but i figured i’d give it another try and i’m glad i did. after he told me “$4 cover” i insisted on “no cover” and he immediately said “ok” and i whisked past the cover-charge girl at the desk inside the front door and found my way to a table (with tablecloth) by the raised dance floor. 69 is more upscale than boleros, with a lot of “guys in ties” trying to get you to spend $. the girls generally don’t come to you, you have to ask a tie-guy to bring one to your table. the talent is the best in nogi, though. i was very impressed. all 7-10 in my book.

the first dancer i saw was a stunning dark haired beauty named zafiro, i’d guess she’s 23 years old. i starting doing my tfk (tip-fondle-kiss) routine at the rail and she was very appreciative and cooperative. when she came out of the dressing room after her set she took a seat at the bar with most of the other girls. since i was the only person who had tipped her during her set, one of the tie-guys went over and told her to come see me, which she did, sitting sweetly in my lap. over the course of the next 20 minutes she allowed me to fondle her fine c-cup boobs through her thin lycra top and feel her ass and legs as much as i liked. the tie guy was pushing chica drinks of course but not as aggressively as at placers, etc. so 20 minutes of enjoyable contact only cost me 1 chica drink ($12 i think). good value. the tie-guy was also trying to upsell sex and was very explicit about the deal there. he explained that i could get anything i wanted from any dancer, “private dance, blow job or full service”. zafiro just smiled and nodded. he said they charge $70/hour for the house and the girl makes her own deal with me.

being still early in the evening i only succumbed to the temptation of a $23 privado, but negotiated for 10 minutes instead of the typical 6. the booths at 69 are a bit nicer than other clubs, with a cushy padded seat instead of the more typical crappy chair. the booths are in a line along a private dead-end corridor (so much for fire inspectors). we sat in the last one and zafiro gave great service. i love fob (“feasting on breasts”) and she was fully compliant, straddling me front-ways, allowing me to feast to my hearts’ content and fondling my equipment the whole time. she even snuck the snake out the leg of my shorts a few times for some skin-on-skin stimulation. we enjoyed some hard humping too and she got into it with some loud squeals. so loud that the tie-guy had to come back to make sure we weren’t already fucking. i passed on the attempted post-privado upsell and returned to my table, encouraged by the talent and eager to see what other honeys might appear.

an annoying trend in many of the clubs is the long wait between dancers. at 69 it got extreme sometimes. even with 10 girls standing or sitting around they waited as much as 10 minutes between performances. no excuse for that imho.

i watched about 8 other dancers and tipped all but one, who was actually the cutest, hottest, youngest one (didn’t get her name but she looks asian) because didn’t take her top off while dancing. this was a trend i noticed at several other places during the night, too. i hope this trend does not continue!!

the club got busier while i was there with about 30 or 40 guys at tables by the time i decided to move on. it’s a good place and i hope they continue to bring in top talent.

once outside i did a quick run up the stairs for a look into nasty-nasty ferni’s but it was still pretty dead. so i headed to the next-best place for nasty mileage: placers. i blew right past the group of guys at the entrance and strode through the door. i never pay cover! inside there were only about 10 patrons so i knew i’d attract attention as fresh meat. i sat at the rail and sure enough within about 10 seconds i had a slender babe all over me, pulling her bikini top aside and thrusting her nipple into my mouth. i had to come up for air to order a beer. of course the waiter asked if i wanted a drink for the girl and even though i declined she stayed on my lap. she was very frisky and had her hands up inside my shorts legs and her nipple back in my mouth as soon as i finished ordering. i ended up buying her a tequila ($11) and then doing a privado ($23). she was begging for me to spring for a blow job and dropped her price to $30. but the house still wanted $50 and i was watching my budget, so an $80 bj was not in the plan, although i’m sure she would’ve done a good job. the privado was high mileage and a lot of fun.

back downstairs i sat at the rail again i enjoyed another beer and did my t-f-k thing with about 6 more girls. all were very accommodating, including the famous monserrat, who’s natural dd’s are a wonder to behold, and hold! for a buck at the rail she gives you unrestricted access with face and hands. amazing!

then 3 girls in a row didn’t take off their tops and i figured it was time to leave. quick stop in lord blacks but it was like a morgue. so back to ferni’s, which was finally busy.
i sat at a table, ordered a beer and waited for the “auditions” to begin. one after another, each girl would approach and sit next to me. i would feel their boobs and check out their face and the friskiness of their attitude for a few moments, and when the waiter asked if i wanted to buy them a drink i’d make a decision based on that experience. if i said no they’d immediately leave, making room for another one. if i said yes, they’d hang out for 10 minutes or so and play with my equipment while i fondled, nuzzled, did whatever i wanted. based on that experience i’d decide if i would go further. that night i bought drinks for 2 girls and took one for a privado.

the first girl was (for ferni’s) relatively slender and fairly attractive. she spoke some english and had fantastic big boobs that i really enjoyed fondling. but she was joyless, and i got the vibe that she’d be very mechanical in a booth.

the second girl was actually one who hadn’t taken her top off onstage. but when she came to sit with me she peeled back her top and let me lick her nipple right away, so i forgave her earlier transgression. she was delightful, fun, cheerful and quite playful, so we made it to the $20 privado booth. she had the best boobs of anyone i’d encountered all night (and by that time i’d probably felt 25 girl’s tits that night). solid youthful c cups with great suckable nipples, soft and long. perfect! the booths are directly across from the bar so they provide no privacy, and have the crappiest chairs in nogi, but i was in heaven. afterwards, figuring i had tasted the best ferni’s had to offer i moved on for a second round at bolero’s.

again i strode in with no cover, took a seat at a table and ordered a beer. i didn’t see carlos but in less than a minute there was a chica on the arm of the chair. she was very elegant, with almost china-white skin and very smooth long black hair. a lot of make up but looked really good. sitting on the arm of my chair instead of in my lap should have been a signal i recognized as “cool low-mileage professional” rather than “passionate high mileage latina” but the beers and my string of enjoyable experiences were blurring my better instincts. a tie-guy appeared immediately and offered a 2 for 1 privado, and i bit. it was the worst of the night. she would not remove her top, only pulled the cups to the side so that the tips of her tits stuck out, and never let my face near them. that does not provide much opportunity for a breast-feasting aficionado like me. then she proceeded to check my watch every 2 minutes for all 12. and the whole time she was pitching me for “sexo” non-stop. like i would spring for big bucks to be with her!

afterwards i took another seat, directly on the rail, and enjoyed some warm and affectionate tipping with 3 or 4 other girls to get that one off my mind. out of nowhere, carlos appeared at my side. i shared my tale of woe and he apologized for not seeing me earlier and warning me away from her. he offered to set me up with a fine new girl who is a high mileage provider, but unfortunately it was already 12:45 and i was at the end of both my time and money budget. so i have that to look forward to next time.

heading out i figured i’d hit lord black’s one more time and see if there was anything happening. i’ve had some good times there in the past. there were 2 patrons with 2 girls, 2 other not very attractive girls sitting by themselves, and one ok chica on stage. i sat at the rail and she immediately climbed off the stage and into my lap in the middle of her song. she was drunk or high or something. she slid my hands up under her top and as i fondled her she tried to convince me to go upstairs for sexo, squeezing my unit through my shorts. but she could hardly talk so i knew that was a nightmare waiting to happen. so i amused myself with her tits for a few more minutes, politely declined her advances and made my leave. what a night!

made it through border security, although the woman guard was very interested in what a guy with an east coast id was doing in nogi at 1am. i just smiled and said “tourism”… that’s my story and i’m stickin’ to it. she shrugged, i walked through, and was fast asleep in my tucson hotel by 2:30.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.

[KC Questor]

Nothing interesting to report. Skipped Nogales entirely. My CJ report is in that thread. I picked the wrong week to try a new town. In SD this week and will just visit the old faves in TJ.

[Wild Wind]

I'm heading down to Nogi this Thurs night and I'm looking forward to a good time the way I like to have it there - which is mostly "booze and squeeze" as Ed calls it - I enjoy playing with the naked tits of as many good looking girls as possible - that makes a nice evening for me these days - I'll do an occasional table (Cherry's is a good value for the money) or privado (Placers, Bolero, Lord Black or Obsessions) but only if I think the mileage will be worth the $ - I get an amazing amount of boob-play from dancers with a buck at the rail - hardly anyone tips there so the girls seem to appreciate it - and they'll often come to see me after they get off stage and are sometimes quite passionate just sitting next to me or on my lap - great way to see if a privado will be enjoyable.

My trip to Costa Rica last year spoiled me for sex with beautiful young Latinas at reasonable prics in clean pleasant surroundings. So for me Nogi is just a fun place for "booze and squeeze", and anything better that happens to come my way there is all bonus.

[Ed...]

Well, it will be interesting to see how KCQuester's trip goes!

[Joe Hunter]

Normally, federal elections require that bars be closed and no alcohol be sold over the weekend. Is this still the case for Nogales for July 2?

I have read some of the local papers from San Luis, and "Ley seca" will be implemented all over the state of Sonora. As far as I know, the only border town that will have alcohol will be Mexicali in Baja California. Why would the border towns not sell alcohol on the gringos? We don’t want to vote, we just want to enjoy our Coronas.

[Explorer8939]

Normally, federal elections require that bars be closed and no alcohol be sold over the weekend. Is this still the case for Nogales for July 2?

[KC Questor]

Decided to bite the bullet (re: my request for info below) and arrange to spend a night in both CJ and Nogi. Unfortunately, the only way that would work is Saturday in Juarez and Sunday in Nogales.

So the next question is: what will I find open in Nogales on this Sunday night? I heard that Obsession is closed, and that was my first choice following LoveLOS's reports. Is anything else open with the elections?

If anyone else is planning on being in Tuscon on July 2 and wishes to ride down together, PM me.

[Tabolitz]

Your right Blackangst sometimes you get a hit or miss. Have not been back to Nogales since 03. Girls are just about the same in TJ. Detached and mechanical. I think if you do not speak the language it would also get you some setback. On the otherhand some are hot as a tamales!

I plan to go back NOGI on of these days. You may ask the girl for an overniter but it will cost you an arm and leg. But I prefer the PI since GFE are almost every corner.

Read my Rocky Point post. Just got back last week and have the same experience.

Ciao

[Blackangst]

Hi guys,

Long time lurker, and most of my punting has been in SE asia. This was my second trip to NG. The first was in 2002, and things have changed! Mostly twice the price. Anyway.

Parked behind the Mickey D's on the US side and walked across. Spent about 2 hours just walking around re-orienting myself. Stopped in a pharmy for a refill of Cialis. My God the barkers were annoying. If it werent for being outside the US I woulda floored one of them LOL. I was standing at the wooded park area near the border entrance and was chatting with a very nice barker there. I immediatley let him know I wasnt interested in him following me around all day, and he laughed and said no problem. After about 20 minutes of chit chat, I asked if he had a hook up for percocet (my only weakness). He said yes, and took me to a pharmy close by. The guy offered 20 for $45, which is reasonable. But as it turns out, it was the mexican version, neocet. No thanks. Struck out there. (If anyone has a hookup for percodan or percocet lemme know). Finally about 7pm I wandered over to Obsession. It was DEAD. Music playing, but no girls dancing, and only one other guy in a corner busy with someone. The guy I assumed to be the mgr was very nice, not real pushy. I told him I would return later. Wandered over to Club 69. My God the girls are gorgeous. Stayed for about an hour, drank a few waters, but decided not to pull the trigger as it was still early.

Next was Bolerio. Dead. There were two girls sitting on the couch at the entrance chatting, one playing video games, no customers. I immediately left, and made a note to return later.

Now it was about 8pm or so. Went back to Obsessions. There was a girl dancing, a couple playing pool with another punter, and a young guy sitting on the side. I sat down next to him, and we chatted. He was about 30, American, from Phoenix like myself, and his first trip. We made small talk (I told him about this board and said he would check it out), and the mgr brought 2 girls over (forget names). The first one was about 5'4, bleach blonde, not fat but not thin. She went to the other American. The other was about 5'0, light brown hair, about a B cup, and a fucking spinner. Gorgeous. (edit: after reading LL's posts, I believe this was Lorainia) I tend to like my girls waif-like, so was pleased I got her. The problem-I dont speak spanish, and she doesnt speak english LOL. Somehow we stumbled through 3 ladies drinks and 2 beers for me. She was fairly reserved, but had a fire in her eyes that made me immediately hard. Finally I decided with no english this wasnt going to happen. With all my time primarily in the Philippines, I have been spoiled by GFE. I'm not really into slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am. So this wasnt gonna happen. Too bad too. So I left.

I was getting frustrated at this point, which is not a good thing for a punter with a hard on. I tried out the eros massage next to Bolerio. There were 3 girls to choose from, and chose a tall blonde girl from Columbia. Spoke a little english which was fine. After a little negotiation we decided on 1.0 for suck/fuck. Back to the room we go. I told her when she came in I was actually interested in a massage also She worked on me for about 30 minutes, and it was so-so. She really seemed detached from the whole thing, and I never made a connection with her. After about 5 minutes of CBJ she mounted cowgirl style. Pretty tight, felt great, but again she was detached and almost mechanical. Tried a few positions, and I flipped her onto her back and started kissing her shoulders, chest, making my way to DATY. She stopped me. Twice. She also didnt let me touch her pussy. Finally, I doggied her for about 10 minutes, closed my eyes and thought of one of my many GFE's in Asia. After I popped, she was out of the room in a heartbeat. I quickly got dressed and left. Blech. I've had better experiences for the money in an AMP in the states.

Finally drove home about 11pm and total about 2.0 later. I dont know. Not real great. But I understand this hobby can be hit or miss, and truth be told I have had unusually good luck, so I guess I was due for a miss.

I will most likely give this another try on Fri night (6/23). So if anyone will be in town, email or PM me and lets hook up I'll probably get into NG around 5 or so, as I like to just walk around and get a feel for the energy in the town.

Also...does anyone know about getting a girl for overnight? Like I said Im used to Asia where you can barfine 'em. Possible in NG?

[Ed...]

Well, the forum has been dead so why not.

Juarez is more cost effective but who cares if its one night. It is also better equipped with the massage deal but nogi has that of late as well. If you speak Spanish well, either place will yield the good time with the cab ride or the possibility for the ever elusive part timer.

Nogi can consistently deliver a hottie night in and night out, rivaled only by TJ. It also has the sharpest claws of all of the border towns to rip into your pockets. But, It has the best strip club type party scene of any border town by far. Sat night is always a good time.

So, IMHO, a good relaxing f can be found anywhere. If you want to booze and squeeze in between, and could maybe be inclined to go for a closet quickie too, nogi rules.

Ed...