Nogales

[Lobo 003]

Indecision and being a codo cost me multiple girls:

Once again I find myself in Nogales Sonora that rinky dink little town I love so much. I met up with ChicaLuv once again, I think he is starting to like that town and becoming addicted to the night life there. See what happens when you see Nogi through my eyes and learn to play the game, your whole perspective of that town changes, the entire experience becomes sweeter and brighter. ChicaLuv is a quick study and has become one hell of a wing man, he has entered the sacred realm of the inner circle of LOBOs friends. Ooooh!!! that sounds really nice.

I started out the day by calling some girls and like usual I can't reach all of them but I managed to reach one, that's all I need to get the nights activities started. I called her up and her friend answered the phone I was told that she was at the moment dancing and to call a few minutes later. I tried again and couldn't reach her so I figured I will see her in the club and will then discuss arrangements.

My wing man got to the club before I did and chatted with my girl and confirmed that she would indeed meet us at our rooms after work I told her that she will need to bring along another girl for my friend. She asked what she was going to get paid I low balled her and told her $500 pesos and she balked at that figure so I asked her how much and she tells me $150 US I told her she was crazy. We negotiated back and forth for a few minutes and finally agreed on $1000 pesos($75 US) I told her that I would be back a little later if I wanted her services. ChicaLuv and I went on our way looking for cheaper game, after all we like a ganga, we found some lovely girls but none would be willing to work outside the club, they were new and a little apprehensive. We returned to our first girls, she figured I would not return so she decided to work more hours, but in any event to give her ten minutes to think about it. I gave her ten minutes to think, she gave no response except flirting with us a few minutes at a time, then I walked out on her.

Outside the club we walked the streets of Nogales to find some girls and hustler friends. Once people see me the word spreads like fire that I'm in town. It was a little slow early evening because of the police presence but I kept looking for action. Finally I start seeing familiar faces and wouldn't you know it the fire beat me to the other side of the tracks, one guy told me that a hustler friend of mine was looking for me and had 2 really nice girls. I went looking for him and couldn't find him so we stopped into Boleiros for awhile to wet our whistles and do a little groping.
Exiting we came across my friend and asked if I needed girls and I emphatically said yes and told him to bring them as soon as possible. We walked to the hotel while the girls were being reached. We did not have to wait to long before their arrival, 6 girls and 4 of them in my opinion were f*cking hot I would have done all four had the price been right.

I knew right away that there was going to be a problem because my hustler had brought me a Madam and her entourage. Anyhow, knowing better I had to ask, how much and they told me $130 US I said no way!!! that's just way to expensive, so I low balled them at $50 and they all got offended, so the negotiating went on ,$120 from them $60 them $80 from me we couldn't make an agreement I told them it's a bad economy and that's to high of a price, they left and got in their taxi, negotiatons on my part have now ended. The hustler continued talking to them and they finally agreed to $100 US for 1 1/2 hours. Refusing their offer I countered with $800 pesos and they said no!. We left ,2 blocks later my hustler came running up behind me and told me they had agreed to $800 pesos. I allready had started to make other plans and no longer wanted their company, explaning to him that their services are no longer needed. Beside I was afraid they would no longer provide good service. Get a girl mad and she will give you very, very bad service, it was better to move on. I tell you this because I'm trying to educate you through my experience so that you can negotiate on your own and if need be, know when to walk away. The reason I'm so tough on negotiating is I'm trying to reform the price mentality of Nogales. I now have help in this department ChicaLuv understands this concept, you must be in control at all times. I finally got through to my hustler and I hope he now understands what price I'm looking for, I informed him that I regularly get $50- $70 US good quality girls without any of his or other hustlers help. Don't bring me any over priced bunnies.

Moving along, we popped in and out of the clubs multiple times got some dances more phone numbers from different girls and came across some very good old friends where I introduced ChicaLuv to the Nogi gang. Just the socializing alone would have made the night fun and enjoyable.

Just to keep you guys current I did ask at one club how much for a girl and they told me the least I could have her for would be $160 WOW!!! bad economy and still high, the good news they are $40 cheaper than before that's if you consider it good news.

Safety in Nogi, very nice night the mood is improving and more people are out and about on Avenida Obregon. That spark of nightlife is comming back to the old town. No one seems preocupied with the drug violence anymore and nothing to report on that. Seems to be fairly safe to me for now. One other point about Avenida Obregon on saturday night it reminds me of the America of the 1950s it looks like something out of American Graffiti. All the cars cruising, revving their engine burnouts tire squeals girls popping their whole bodies out of sun roofs, very, very cool.

Ok now the good stuff, we bumped our heads all night long trying to score a decent priced girl, we had made arrangements with some girls for after hours but guess what 2 girls from 2 different clubs stood us up damn what a [CodeWord140] off. My girl did call the next day and apologized, she had her reasons. Now we find ourselves lonely with an empty hotel room and no lovely bunnies to hump on, so my final recomendation was to go to the after hours club, VIP Fiesta Palace. We walk over to the club, it is now about 4:30 am in the morning chatted with some friends and found a couple of girls that work in the local clubs and made arrangements to meet at our hotel room. My girl cost me $70 US she was trying to only give me 40 minutes because she wanted to get back to parting in the VIP club, she kept checking my watch. While I was giving her a pelvic exam I moved my watch back 5 minutes, a little later she checked again so when she wasn't looking I moved it back another 5 minutes I did that untill I got a hour of playtime. OH I'm bad...

Anyhow, she gave me a really good time lots of moaning and groaning nice titties super hot coochie, loved it doggie, she wasn't much on the dinning at the Y she said it felt weird and tickled, no problem I'll just pull something else out of my repertoire of tricks all was fine except for the rush factor she even allowed me to do her bareback for awhile, not a very wise decision on my part but, oh it feels so wonderful. Everytime her friend would knock on the door she would tell her, almost ready, I don't think she really wanted to leave because while we were in our most heated of positions she wanted to continue even with a sore pussy, what a trooper.

According to my friend his girl was $800 pesos (60 US) but that's his story...

Next week I'm scheduled for a double date with some normal non working, out of the adult industry girls, just the type that I'm looking for, we're also trying to set ChicaLuv up on a blind date and maybe some more of my friends could possibly join us. Hmmmm...Maybe I'll have an appetizer before my date just in case she doesn't see eye to eye with me about dancing between the sheets.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Lobo 003]

Aaaah Bubba,

You're bringing tears to my eyes, you want to read another 2 hour love story after you emphatically denied that you don't read my posts, WOW !!! you really do like me. Why don't I come over so that I can pat you on the head and tickle your tummy and tell you what a good little boy you are.

Oh! make sure you get your dictionary out 'cause I'm using really big words in my post.

I must Thank you Bubba, by attacking me you only increased my notoriety and diminished yours. Go figure, you bad mouthed me and only made me more popular. You should see all the PMs I have received for special trips to Nogi.

That was the real reason for your attack, you sly little devil, your so nice.

LOBO

[Bubbanaz]

Lobo I want your dogs.Or at least another a $50 two hour love story. Or a Ho story. Your dogs ain't to good. Ed has me scared.

[Bubbanaz]

I think you can and should bring the big guns against me, Ed. Ain't one of them. He likes and thinks high prices for here is the norm. Bring in LOS I liked him for tales. Or are you the one and the same. Your stories I can't figure out. But I know big time you all (at the clubs have been and still pay too much). The truth hurts. Ed I want the stories about you getting (for real) ladies at the cluds for what 50 or 60 I think much higher like 140+. I think you all like paying drug lords. Who is running the clubs? Who are we paying the money to? If we are going to pay 140+ to the girls, How much are they getting? I think Lobo should play apart here. A long with Ed and LOS. I am trying to help you people without the BS from the gods here. You want to pay tribute I am fine with that. Lobo have fun. Ed you owe him a dinner. LOS They wait on you I have not. I still am laughing here. I'm not paying the price. I love the alternitives.

[Bubbanaz]

Just think Ed has jumped in.

[Ed...]

I know you had to defend your Honor, Lobo, but grammar alone will keep anyone with any cognitive skills at all from paying attention to some snarky loser.

[Semianon]

Bubbanez:

I am not sure why you are reacting to Lobo with such hostility. I have never actually met him myself, but I can definitely vouch for the advice he regularly gives in this forum. While my few experiences in Nogales do not match his, they are close enough that I have no doubts about the truth of his claims.

Lobo:

I am sure you do not hear this often enough, so I am going to say it again. Thank you. Your reports on Nogales are extremely helpful, and are truly appreciated by many who read these forums.

Everyone:

I think anyone who speaks Spanish and has reasonably good looks could match Lobo's exploits, with a bit of effort. Unfortunately, I do not speak Spanish, and my appearance is average at best. Even so, during my last trip to Nogales (back in February), I had a wonderful evening involving 1 woman for an hour followed by 2 women for another hour for $240 (for those who have trouble with math, that is $80 per hour with each woman), and I am certain I could have talked them down if I had actually tried. I was thinking too much with the wrong head to haggle properly. : grin:

Avoiding the clubs is pretty much mandatory though, as Lobo has indicated several times, and I learned for myself during that same trip. If you want details, I have a full report in the Nogales section of USASexGuide.

[Lobo 003]

Bubbanez,

I agree with you that for the everyday American the clubs are way too high at $180 for FS. I have mentioned this several times in the past and have been going to Mexicali and Tijuana where the average American with no deep knowlege of the cities can get $80 for 40 minute full service with high class good looking chicas at several clubs.

However it sounds to me that Lobo knows Nogi inside out and has developed many connections. He has no doubt spent much time to gain his knowledge and connections. Good for him. I have done much the same in Mexicali. I do not think he is a liar. I think it is more difficult to get chicas for less dollars in Nogi than Mexicali or Tijuana in the clubs, but Lobo deserves his recognition for knowing Nogi iside out and his ability to get chicas. I am sure he would be willing to help anyone out in this area. If I go to Nogi again I would not mind hooking up with him and buying him a few drinks. I would do so out of respect for his knowledge and perhaps he would impart some of his knowledge to me. I would do the same for anyone who wants to learn the ins and outs of Mexicali.

I think because of misunderstandings tempers have led to words which really are not intended.

Take care

Amigo 69

Well said Amigo69,

Now that's the brotherhood that I thought we had on this board.

LOBO

[Amigo69]

Bubbanez,

I agree with you that for the everyday American the clubs are way too high at $180 for FS. I have mentioned this several times in the past and have been going to Mexicali and Tijuana where the average American with no deep knowlege of the cities can get $80 for 40 minute full service with high class good looking chicas at several clubs.

However it sounds to me that Lobo knows Nogi inside out and has developed many connections. He has no doubt spent much time to gain his knowledge and connections. Good for him. I have done much the same in Mexicali. I do not think he is a liar. I think it is more difficult to get chicas for less dollars in Nogi than Mexicali or Tijuana in the clubs, but Lobo deserves his recognition for knowing Nogi iside out and his ability to get chicas. I am sure he would be willing to help anyone out in this area. If I go to Nogi again I would not mind hooking up with him and buying him a few drinks. I would do so out of respect for his knowledge and perhaps he would impart some of his knowledge to me. I would do the same for anyone who wants to learn the ins and outs of Mexicali.

I think because of misunderstandings tempers have led to words which really are not intended.

Take care

Amigo 69

[Lobo 003]

Bubba,

A little hot under the collar are you, well now you know how I feel.

As for being hosted and toasted you brought it upon yourself. I attack no one without provocation. You bring on the fight and I will gladly dance with you.

I'm willing to put this Argument to bed, but if you keep up with your snide remarks I'll stay on you like stink on shit.

If you call someone a liar expect consequences...

LOBO

[Bubbanaz]

No I don't read your post as they are concieted and arrogant. And as I have said they don't have an MPEG with them. LOBO LOBO. Aurgue with me all you want. And think that Tijuana is a joke. But if you have not gone there. You are what you are. But this site is to tell what most people expect when traveling, without being hosted and toasted, thank you.

[Lobo 003]

Bubbanaz,

You finally read my post in detail and are starting to understand what I've been trying to do, to bad I had to admonish you in my last post. Although you're still walking on thin ice with your current post, I will over look it and move on.

The whole point of my posts is to inform everyone including experienced and amateur mongers as to the possibilities that can be found in Nogales. I'm the one putting myself in harms way in order to improve the sport in Nogi. You don't need to go through the hassel of meeting up with me to enjoy the fruits of Nogi, that's the whole purpose of me educating would be lone travelers in my posts. Anyone that wants to meet up with me does so at their sole discretion. I'm not pushing anyones buttons and forcing them to meet me, after all we are not mindless automotons, we are thinking human beings and are capable of making our own decisions. Those that do want to meet with me are only wanting to see Nogi through my eyes and gain some knowledge for a better experience in that town. I'm just trying to show people if you look you can find your desired results in Nogales.

You didn't [CodeWord140] me off for telling the truth about Nogales, it is for the most part way over priced and I will have to agree with you on that point. I've also argued that very point many times in pasts posts. What angered me is the fact that you insinuated that I was lying in my posts with my exploits and prices for services in Nogales and that they were all fabricated lies, that's what caused the defensive attack on my part. I don't have to lie about what I do in Nogi THE TRUTH IS JUST TO DAMN JUICY.

As far as being the King of Nogi as you put it, get real, I told you that's what people call me, it's cute when I hear it, but I'm not much for titles or positions. There is no way that I would believe such a statement. I'm like everyone else the only difference is I have experience and knowledge.

Just remember if you want to keep it cordial between us don't attack me personally or insinuate that I provide false statements, attack the flesh peddlers of Nogales Sonora like I have and will continue to do so.

One more point, all of my posts are accurate and truthfull !!!

Be safe...

LOBO

[Bubbanaz]

If I [CodeWord140] you off good. Just telling the truth. If it hurt's, too bad. I just want people to know if it is bad it is bad. They can go down there and meet up with the King of Nogie, that is what your calling yourself. And find the good life. But what about those few who want a good time without the hassle or meet up with you. I get what I pay for, most times. I have had a few bad girls. But I have been bad a couple times myself. You do your reserch and you will really find out who I am. I am not going to flame you as you did me. I could. And should but. I enjoy the fact without embellishment or princess stories I get what I cum for. I will be down there from time to time to get "cheap" cig's and a lap dance. Not much more. Would have love to met you but we became enemies much too soon! About 6 years ago when riff raff was not a term used here, my lord. Love you dude Just help out folks who are coming in alone and want a good time.

Tell the whole story.

[Lobo 003]

Hey Bubba,
Sounds like you're jealous that I'm able to find quality women for a fair price in Nogales. Apparently you're just skimming and not reading my post in detail. I know how to speak the language, how to negotiate, wheel and deal and I know how to make it happen in Nogales. I'm the one with the silver tongue and these are direct quotes from people that know me I'm El Patron, El Jefe, the King, The Boss, El Padrino of Nogales and I'm treated like royalty in and out of the clubs. I'm not to much into tooting my own horn but when someone has the audacity and says I'm a liar and what I do in Nogales is untrue. well, that just gets under my skin and FUCKING PISSES ME OFF. I've noticed from your last few post that you're itching to have an argument with me, I blew it off thinking you were being sarcastic well Bubbanaz, you got your wish. It's not my fault you can't make heads or tails out of the adult scene and are incapable of making Nogales work for you. Do all of us a favor if you don't like Nogales don't go there keep your snide remarks to yourself and leave Nogi to the pros like myself. People like yourself are the reason the clubs are over priced, you don't know how to play there, so please stay with your $20 US, 15 minute putas in Tijuana, I'll stick with quality over skanky worn out girls any day. Besides the more that Americans stay away the better the prices for me. Also, Laugh all you want Bubba, ChicaLuv and I are the ones with the happy satisfied $50 US 2 hour grins on our faces, which we will repeat numerous times. Finally, I hear laughing oh, that's me laughing at you now for your incompetence and ineptitude in Nogi, see what happens when you sling slanderous remarks. I have a good reputation on and off the board and I will protect it fiercely from anyone that tries to blemish my good name.

Read this from ChicaLuv on the usasexguide forum for confirmation and proof of what I can do. http://usasexguide.info/forum/showth...046#post790046

Quote from ChicaLuv,

As noted, I was treated to a FULL unabridged tour of Nogales Lobo003 style. WOW! Lobo thanks for sharing your heretofore private play land. Lobo003 is quite the charitable gentleman. He is indeed El Jefe de Nogales.

Lobo makes wheeling and dealing in the carnal secrets inside the Nogales flesh scene seem like Math 101.

The evening started in Obsessions, where THE LOBO gave lessons on how to charm and dazzle not only the ‘working girls’, but the entire staff (both man & female). I didn’t have any private dances but did take notes on how the Master worked the crowd.

After Obsessions, I was taken on a tour of several very lively and sight-filled clubs. All on the other side of POE. At each club (to include the entire route in-between) The Lobo was greeted by the staff & girls as an ole friend. They kissed and groped him every step of the way.

Luckily for me, I was guilty by association, and even managed to merit a few fleshy encounters myself. Under The Lobos tutelage I began to get the feel (pun intended) of making the NOGGIE connection. While The Lobo was shoring up his harem, I managed to ferret out a few possibilities myself.

Luckily for me, Lobo had the evening events all scheduled out and we keep on his tightly timed schedule, making sure to hit all the lights while still makings his 9PM hottie linkup. He had mentioned to me that he had arranged meet one of his numerous hot Latina ladies (with one of her girl friends in tow) for a three-some. So being the eager student, I was allowed to tag along to the link up site outside one of the hotels.

While we waited for the pair of Latina lovelies to arrive, the Lobo continued sharing some of his proven secrets. Just prior to the ladies, The Lobo suggested that he would share one of this trophy Latinas with his under study. I was again surprised by his generosity, but "didn’t blink an eye" at accepting his offer.

The two ladies arrived, and they were both HOT. We got our respective rooms and in route to the arena Lobo relayed to me that he had originally plan of having BOTH for his evenings’ opener. I was again honored by his generosity, and suggested that we might switch ladies during halftime. Of course, that never happened as we both lost track of time and in fact there was no halftime. Just one continuous two hour game of unending adult fun.

My little petite lady was a little shy at first, but soon offered numerous DFK followed by the entire menu of fun adult adventures. She was sooooo much fun. Most of us don’t have this much fun our entire lives. In the end, she never mentioned money and I simply placed 700 pesos ($50 US) into her purse. She responded with another long deep wet kiss and her phone number. Almost demanding that we get together soon.

The LOBO and I must have heard the end-of-game buzzer at the same time, as we exited our respective rooms almost simultaneously. Both ladies looked aglow and freshly primped. My secret wish at that time was to continue the exchange program and renew for yet another game of carnal knowledge cross-border exchange.

But THE LOBO had his proven timeline, and we continued our hunt for new playmates. We retracted our steps through all the clubs and reconfirmed our previous liaisons’. Most of these ladies don’t get off the night shift until 3AM. Yes, that is 3AM! So, the Lobo had again plan for this and had his many street contacts hunting down additional outside (non-strip-club, local women, many now out partying in the local night clubs) talent. There seem to be a lot of local girls, looking to make a few quick dollars and have some fun fleshy fun doing it.

Numerous of the Lobos flesh-scouts brought women by for our review, but none met up to the standards that had already been set during our initial first round adventures. So we continued moving between street flesh mongers, to strip club beauties and even massage parlor introduction. During this time I managed (with the help of The Lobo) to make a after-hours date with one of the strip club hotties.

So at 3AM we happened by HER club as she walked out. She handed me her travel bag and said "I’ll meet you at your room in a few minutes. She DID just that. There was no mention of money and she treated me like a long lost love. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions. And plenty of AMORE! After it was all said and done, and the sun started up we ended our evening. I gave the lady 1100 peso (about $80 US), she thanked me and left me with her phone number & a long wet wanton kiss.

I slept from about 6-9AM, before walking across the border and driving home. WOW, what a great night. The opportunities were numerous, and ladies beautiful and THE LOBO was a great host.

Many thanks LOBO

End ChicaLuv quote,

Be safe...

LOBO

[Bubbanaz]

When posting these type of post please put music to them. There should be a storm of people going here for the play it ain't happenin'. Becuase fantasy verses reality always prevail. Nogi suks and is way over priced and anyone that goes there to play is. Not worth mentioning. So please when posting on here please, NO PLEASE add a little mpeg. Maybe violins But, definitly something with trumpets. Triumps should be bold if they happen. I personally don't think they are happening here very often, if at all. 50. 00 for two hours I am still laughing, these must have been really. I'm not saying, wasn't there. There must have been a blue moon that night Average price in Nogie is 155. 00 US. One shot, no bed. Sale price there are none. Thanks. You guys dream. But it ain't happening. Always good for cigs just not the P2P. Riff Raff signing off. PS. I remember when it WAS 60 in the clubs.