Nogales

[DarkRum]

Hello fellow people of the arts.

It has been a while since I have been in Nogi, and from all reports it seems like the woman in places like Placers, Lord Backs, Ferni, Etc are running $100 or more for services rendered, and that seems to be the not-so-decent to half-decent ones.

Is there any sub-$100 action with decent looking woman willing to hit a hotel? Anyone willing to share a number of a good experience? Please let me know.

I will reply with the same. Pending I have good info to share from my trip

I have been to La Conga back in May and the action was poor to say the least. Hardly worth the 65 they used to charge then, but from earlier reports it seems like the price of "questionable mediocrity" went up.

I will be in Phoenix next weekend the 16th and 17th and would hate to waste a tank of gas in a rental ($50 - $60) to go down to Nogi and strike out.

Thanks for any info either private or public.

[Phuqued]

Ed,

Thanks for the information.

I will be there overnight Wednesday, October 19, and again overnight on Saturday, October 22, unless Wednesday is a bust and I decide not to return.

I am missing Juarez so much that I was tempted to catch a flight roundtrip from Phoeniz to El Paso for an overnight in Juarez.

Is anyone planning to visit Nogalez on the night of October 19/day of October 20 or night of October 22/day of October 23?

[Ed...]

San Luis is going to be further, unless you are on the back of a migrating crow.

3am isn't too late on Sat. Close, but not too late.

Don't worry about Sunday, it's basically the same in Nogales outside of Friday or Saturday. Obsessions is closed. It can be very quite even in the evenings, and daytime belongs to the curio shoppers, but there is still enough bar action.

Escort services? Taxis! If it's early and you gotta get a date, go for a ride and let him show you some girls.

[Phuqued]

I asked a question in the post below about Nogales on a Sunday. I was searching the forum and reviewed some favorable posts about San Luis Rio Colorado. It appears that Nogales and San Luis are about the same distance from Phoenix, and I will have a day to play on either side of my trip to Phoenix. Is San Luis a better spot than Nogales?

[Phuqued]

I looked through the posts, and there wasn't much about Nogales on Sundays. I will be in Phoenix on business but will be available to travel to Nogales late Saturday night and will be able to stay until late Sunday when I have to return to catch a flight in Phoenix.

I won't get in early enough on Saturday night for a mongering tour or perhaps for any mongering at all, depending on my arrival time, so I may be limited to Sunday. Does anyone have any suggestions about activities for Sunday? Does anyone know if there are any escort services? I was planning to stay over Saturday night on the US side but can also stay in the MX.

Thanks,

Jiggs

[Jester]

I'll be going to Nogales on my first trip soon. Based on information from this forum, I want to stay at the Hotel Granada, but I haven't been able to find an address. I have a good Nogales map. Is it reasonable to walk there from the border, or do you need to take a taxi? Thanks for the info.

It is close enought to walk. maybe 5 minutes from the border

[Howe52]

I'll be going to Nogales on my first trip soon. Based on information from this forum, I want to stay at the Hotel Granada, but I haven't been able to find an address. I have a good Nogales map. Is it reasonable to walk there from the border, or do you need to take a taxi? Thanks for the info.

[Bachelor Warrior]

I gave Sol Angel $100. The girls in the other bars wanted $170, so that's why I said I figured I was saving $70. And Sol treated me halfway decent.

Glad to hear that La Conga is actually safe. Maybe next time, I'll spend some more time. I'll take the advice about the cab though.

Oh, and I did go to Fernie's. But there were very few girls there. The ones that were there were gorditas and no where near my type. I was pressed for time, so I left without waiting to ask price or anything.

BW

[Ed...]

Junkyard,
100 bucks isn' too bad a guess. Lots of girls will pitch higher, and they aren't the good ones anyway. They get all of the money and figure they'll just be making a stop on the way home.
'Toda la noche' usually means till you've popped, I don't pay ahead for that. Usually an 'uno mas' for a reduced rate gets her to stay and play till you want her to leave so you can sleep anyway.
Go get something to eat with her first!

Bachelor Warrior
What did you end up paying at Sol Angel? The experience seems to vary wildly there.

Conga its self is quite safe and friendly. I've walked at all hours but it is better to pay 5(max) for a cab, unless you like checking out the trannies! Don't pay more than 60 for a half hour. Many times the girl will chase the door knocker away. BYOC. I hate to keep saying this as it seems no one else finds them, but there are young and cute girls there, as well as a couple very passionate women, and I'm not willing to slum it either.

"$170 for an hour for BJ and FS.."
Fernies, Fernies, Fernies. It is always worth a trip and a beer. You can find real fresh cuties in there amoungst the average locals. The waitresses are always very friendly and at least one is English enabled. 100 bucks gets the room and the chica, unless your too wide eyed and still in 'school.' I don't know if it's good to praise this place or just shut up and take advantage with no other gringos in sight. Last time I am mentioning it for sure.

Sounds like you saw Ben of L.O.N. Now there's a well informed monger!

[Kamperx]

I went twice to Nogales recently; a Saturday night and a Friday night. I checked out Rio's, Boleiro's, Placers, Lord Black, and the La Conga Bar.

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Great report BW! It's the kind of concise info I was looking when I first headed south of the border. My best experiences have been at the massage places. Chicas are decent and pretty straightforward negotiations.

Depends on whether you're heading down to bust a nut or an eardrum...

Kamperx

[Bachelor Warrior]

i went twice to nogales recently; a saturday night and a friday night. i checked out rio's, boleiro's, placers, lord black, and the la conga bar.

first the not so good news. the gals at la conga were almost all older and between a 4 and a 6, but they still want $100 for 40 minutes. they were friendlier than at the other places. i bought a few drinks ($7 each) for one of the more "attractive" "babes" and we danced quite a bit. she was good to talk to and didn't gulp her drinks down like some of them. a guy playing a keyboard (one man band type of thing) there was good. imho. the gal liked to dance and so did i. i enjoyed my time there. even so, being new to nogi, the lc seems far from the border and there were no other gringos in view. so i was not comfortable there. i try to cultivate a healthy paranoia when it seems appropriate, so maybe that's all it was.

the really good news is that at the other "bars", the girls were between 8 and 10! and that's without exception. the only difference between the 8 and 10 would be your individual preference. that is, do you go for the body or the face or both? do you like then very young or just a little older? if you like wide-bodies, you're probably screwed. i didn't see any. otherwise, these girls were gorgeous, dressed well, and clean looking. it was impressive to see 15 or so girls onstage at one time and all of that quality. and that was before i started drinking! i prefer placers to the others, but to each his own. there's usually a cover of about $4 to get in any of them.

it's been reported here that the prices are almost as high as stateside and i found that to be true. maybe your negotiating skills will be better than mine, but the best i could do was about $170 for an hour for bj and fs. for that money, i want a gal that seems interested and i didn't find one in the short time i was there. so i passed. i did get a private dance upstairs at placer's for $22. it was pretty much routine. i didn't go for an encore.

most of the bars are immediately to the left of the border crossing, across the rr tracks. they are all in a row with some other bars in between. one of those has a horseshoe on its sign that one of the locals told me is kind of a singles bar. he said that any girl in there would go with me for $50 or $60. i said fine, but they're all with somebody already. he said that was not a problem. he offered to go in and pick out the prettiest girl in his opinion and bring her out. i said ok. she was very nice, but looked too young (risky), so i said no.

there are two massage parlors that i investigated with girls between 7 and 9. both places want $40 for the room for the 40 minutes and then you negotiate with the girl. "sol angel" at the massage place closer to the border wanted an extra $60. she was youg, slender, and very good looking. i went for that, figuring i was saving $70 or so. she was very good, so she got a tip.

rio's seems a little different than the others. if you go in the daytime, watch your step because it's as black as hell in there. you have to go up a spiral staircase and you can't see a damn thing. once you're upstairs, the floor is uneven, so you still have to be careful. air conditioning, be it swamp cooler or refrigerated, is non-existent there! damn, it was stifling! it was hot enough that it really messed up the experience. the girls were all wearing the "traditional" one piece black dresses. the mexicanas could make thing so much more interesting if they thought about it. how about a sexy nurse or school girl? oh well. i saw fewer girls here than at the other bars.

as soon as you cross the border, you'll be accosted by cab drivers who want to take you to la conga (apparently nogales' only ***** house) or "locals" who want to "help" you find a strip bar. i tried and tried to shed myself of these guys, but it seems impossible. if you let him take you to one and give him a tip, he'll be waiting outside an hour later when you come out! i don't want to be a prick, so i try to be polite, but that doesn't seem to get the message across.

when you're driving down highway 19 from tucson, just keep going straight to the end of the road. ignore the exit signs for nogales, az. pretty soon the speed limit will be reduced to 45 or whatever mph and you'll see a big arch. that is obviously the border crossing. right in front of you will be a guy waving a flag for a parking lot. $4. an easy walk from there to the border, just follow the pedestrian traffic.

nogales is hilly. and, thank god, it's usually 5 or 10 degrees cooler than tucson. the hills give the town a different character in many ways, so that's interesting.

when asked if the girls in these bars were clean one cabbie replied "mas o menos" with the appropriate accompanying gesture. wow! an honest man! btw, lots of folks in nogi speak english fairly well. except for the cabbies!

finally, i think i saw a guy giving a monger's tour of nogi. it was funny because he was charging up the sidewalk with his clientes in tow just like a mother duck and her ducklings! darn, it made me wish i had signed up.

all-in-all, i hope to go back. but only when it's cooler!

bw

[Junkyard]

I went to Nogales with some buddies of mine about a month ago. I got a couple of nice looking dancers phone numbers, with the idea of getting some private action on the side in a month or two. One was from Obsessions (I think) and the other from Bolerio. I specificially asked both if they do work 'outside the club'. They said yes. One spoke very good English and the other didn't, but I can get by in my broken Spanish

Both of them had good attitudes (or I wouldn't of asked) and I enjoyed their private dances very much!

Question: When I do call these ladies for some FS on the side, what should I expect to pay? I figure perhaps $100 + (possible hotel) is reasonable. I can see the flames coming as I say this, keep in mind this is just a guess. Thanks.

[SuperD]

I went yesterday about 530 and Cherrie's was lame. Good girls either busy or not wotking. Did the spa next door but prices too similar to America. Girls in the 5-8 range. Session could of been better. Happy Ending. Will give it another shot some day.

[Mugroso]

Oh you guys won’t believe the beauty we saw there. Being an ass freak myself, I was in heaven as Nogi is just full of bubble butts. I almost got whiplash scoping the ladies out. I was afraid I would offend a local for looking at his novia so I had to control myself. We toured the area and I took notes so I could make a map for my members of www.**************.com to be prepared.

There are some fantastic tourist markets in Nogales. Lots of real nice merchandise but not as many velvet Elvis’s as I expected. There are some very small patio restaurants throughout the market place. Touristy but very nice.

Some interesting observations. Drivers in Nogales are very considerate. They will stop just to let you cross the road. Many Nogales residents speak English. The topography of the area is very hilly. They will build houses anywhere and they area may not be prone to landslides.

There are many “helpful” people in Nogales MX. And a pain in the ass. Everyone seems to know where the best deals on pharmacies and such are and want to take you there. There were even a couple of guys who wanted to take us to see the girls. Imagine that. I told one guy that I know where everything is because I live there. He challenged me by asking what street I live on so I made something up and he left. What luck. One guy wanted to take us to the ladies and I asked if any of them were Korean and he said no and left promptly.

We checked out a massage parlor by Lord Black (Sensux Spa) and they had 7 or 8 ladies on duty ranging from a 5 to 8 on my scale. A guy who works there showed us the rooms and they have a room for hydro massages. You sit up on a table and the lady washes you down with a water massages and cleans you up real nice. Cost for a massage is 40 dollars and they hydro is 60 both for 40 minutes of service. Extras are, well, extra.

On back to eat, freshen up, change into my **************.com t-shirt and cargo shorts and head back to hit the night scene.

Upon our return to Mexico we hooked up with Dragoncelt of www.ladiesofnogales.com fame and his partner, GringoLoco. (screen names of course)

First bar, Obsessions. Not much going on as the fight was on TV and the Ladies of Nogales were bored. But then it was all over and the dancing began and the ladies started to mingle. One hottie, Melodie, really caught my eye. We were soon joined by a buddy of theirs LatinLover. Next stop was Rio just around the corner. This place is the most “Juarez like” of all the bars there. A little dinjy but nice.

VIP Fiesta is a very plush bar and the seats are very comfy. There is a section marked off by greek pillars and tables inside for private drinks with the ladies. There is a small private dance room and another room with a revolving door.

We then headed up the road and passed a massage place we noticed in the afternoon but we thought it wasn’t open. Well half is open. They are building new rooms and had about 5 ladies on shift. I was given a tour of Eros Spa. The massage tables are interesting. They are the size of a twin bed and elevated to massage table height. I don’t know why.

Bolieros. One of the newer bars in Nogales by my perspective. A nice long dance floor in the middle and comfy chairs all over the place. This place must be popular, there were even some gringas checking out the ladies. The DJ announce a private dance special, double time for regular price. I immediately snatched up the cutest shorty in the place and headed downstairs to the booths. Boy was it fun, especially the part when my zipper “fell” down and as she was grinding her ass into me she felt something hard and fleshy. She looked really surprised and zipped me back up.

Placers is my favorite from my previous 2 visits. This time the place wasn’t as crowded as before but there certainly was no shortage of lovely ladies. They just kept coming at us, enticing us to buy drinks or private dances. And try they did, that is 3 quarters of the fun in Nogi.

We didn’t spend much time in Lord Black even though it is a great club. They also had a double time special but I didn’t hop on it this time, I was saving myself for Zury at Rio. One lady was taking phone pics of her sister dancing so I got into the shot just to show off my t-shirt (I’m such a ham).

We then went to Fernies. Not the best club in Nogi but I liked it. One cutie almost got a private out of me, but Zury was waiting.

Back to Rio. Damn it, I got 4 private dances from Zury. She had me under a spell, highly recommended. He private dance was great, lots of moaning and groaning and pathetic whimpers of pleasure. Not much out of Zury but it was great.

What a great time we had. It had been over a year since my last visit and it was about time. I really missed the place and must make more trips. If you ever plan on a trip to Nogales look up DragonCelt at ladiesofnogales .com and arrange a tour, you will have a great time. He is an excellent host and a blast to hang around with.

[Ed...]

Anyone know an honest, reliable guide and how to locate them?[/QUOTE]
Hola, Soy Ed...lol

Good Luck! I am sure a request for a 'non-pro' falls to the ground after smashing into the language barrier. Jose' Hawker is only interested in getting you to bite on whatever bait he can dig up.
I find them all honest, but reliable is another word that doesn't translate in spite of the best of intentions and efforts.

I have rented some of the same girls several times and have been treated like a boyfriend by many. Usually, this is a nuscence as I mostly enjoy the rooting about part!

Try walking north and chatting it up with whoever, just like you would anywhere while looking for fun. (this has NOT usually worked for me, but sucess twice in countless tries keeps me going)
If your in the zone, let the dudes display their wares, if you have a good time ask her to get somthing to eat. Many have jealous boyfriends (Bambi at Obsessions -YIKES), and many don't want family or friends to see them working, so don't get bummed on a no thanks.

I'd be happy to meet up there sometime, but I am somewhere between 'marginally reliable' and 'who knows what he's doing now!'