Nogales

[foofighter]

Thank you guys for the map and the info. I have a little "free time" next weekend and was looking to make a trip down on either Friday or Saturday. I have read through more than a year of posts and had a few more questions. I know things can change from night to night, but any suggestions on making the drive for either Friday or Saturday?
Also, I am a little picky when it comes to the chicas and some posts say that the women at La Conga can be less than average (is this the case?) I know we all have our own scales, but I am not into banging some ugly chick for the point of banging. How many 8's and 9's are there here?

And finally, for those of you who made the trip in the past few weeks, which are your favorite clubs in terms of overall ratings, attractive girls, etc.?

Sorry for all the questions and again any advice will help me out. I will make sure to post on my adventures. If you have any questions as to the scenes in TJ or SF Bay Area I will be glad to help

FF

[Jester]

Hey Ragman,

Seems that you and I have the same taste in food. I love Las Brasas, and Tai Wai (for the food only

Have you tried Marcos Grill near the bus terminals? it is way out of Mongering territory but worth the trip if you want to impress a date.

[Ragman]

Ed sed,
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I may be wrong, but Canal is about a mile or so from the Border. The TV's stay South of the intersection, not North.
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I always walk to La Conga and in the evenings almost always see a couple of TVs on Obregon North of cinco de febrero and South of VH. I don't always take Obregon. I've never seen them on any parallel streets. I've walked further south (there is a good steakhouse called Las Brasas) and have not seen any but that may be just the timing.

The show starts at 11pm in the bar at a good (IMHO) Chinese restaurant. The bar does not open until 9pm. If you are looking for good Chinese food think about giving Tai Wah a try and don't be put off by the sign advertising the Travesti show.

Ragman

PS. I had heard so many wild guesses at how far it is to "Canal Street" or to La Conga that one night I took my GPS and measured it with the odometer. From the turnstile to Obregon to cinco de febrero to La Conga is 1.4 miles.

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The Mr. Bill Map! Thanks. I sent the link to Foo (PM- did you get that?), too bad I wasn't smart enough to post it as a pic . Good Job! Tecolote is someplace I like to hang out when resting or looking for the odd party. The quality is pretty ruff and spotty, the floor show "unique". Plenty of girls to date, many are very low key here. Spanish or help is a must, and there is the occasionally cutie. Good spot when you are spending the night but it's to early for a pre arranged bar girl, but bring your beer goggles and/or your sense of humor and don't count on finding that special one every time.

I may be wrong, but Canal is about a mile or so from the Border. The TV's stay South of the intersection, not North. I would say it is best to be very cautious with anyone you meet away from the main bar area, only because they are obviously not working in the best area and may be more of an opportunist.

[Ragman]

Azil,

Tecolote is not a Topless Dancer bar. They have a stage with some dancing and some singing. Ladies hang around for ficha drinks and more. Although Spanish is not absolutely required you would be more comfortable with a conversational ability. It is more oriented towards locals than toward gringos. Rest assured that if you go in and sit down you will be approached by both meseros and by ladies. Using that old, tired 1 to 10 scale you will find mostly 4s, 5s, and 6s. They are not as organized as the TD clubs, or La Conga, or even the Bora Bora and other bars. Probably their biggest claim to fame is after hours. But that is only hearsay from me. By that time of night I am snuggled in with lady at a motel or on my way back home.

Ragman

PS. Mr Bill's map is a little out of date. It does not have the new Boleiro, just south of Placer's. Also he could never expand it enough to show La Conga.

PPS. The map is from another forum. Let's be careful not to bend Jackson's rules too far.

[Azil]

Hey, it worked!! Amazing.

Jester -- thanks for the clarification on the TV's on Obregon.

I'm still interested in further street girl info if anybody has some to offer.

On the map, I saw a place I had never visited, Tecolote. I did a forum search, and all the mentions came up as variations on "I stopped into Tecolote, and then went to (fill in the blank)." Nobody mentioned scoring there. Is it worth a visit?

Thanks for any help.

[Azil]

Foofighter:

If this works (I've never attached a picture before on WSG), I'm attaching a map I found elsewhere. I don't know how old it is, but it seems reasonably up-to-date.

I hope this is helpful.

[Vitamin V Boy]

Foofighter, these site should help you.

http://www.ladiesofnogales.com/

He has good reviews for his "guided tours".

[foofighter]

I am new to the Nogi board and I was curious if there was anywhere on the web that has a map of the general area with all the clubs so a first timer can get around a little easier. I used to hit up TJ quite often and the maps on line for TJ made things fairly easy. Thanks for any info you can provide.

FF

[Jester]

Azil,

Non-transvestite territory is south of Febrero / Canal on Obregon. But I would recommend you still be careful just in case a transvestite wanders to the other side. But from what I've seen they pretty much stay within those three blocks between Victor Hugo and Febrero / Canal.

Also if anyone wants to see or meet a table Dancer outside of work. Well, they usually hang out at La Jungle dance club when they are not working.

I have also seen some of them work out at Gym's. Gym's is located on the corner of Victor Hugo and Obregon, upstairs. I usually workout here about 4 times a week. If you go there, you can easily recognise me since I'm the only American working out in the gym.

[Azil]

hi -- you folks were very helpful to me last year when i visited nogales, and i hope you can help me again (i generally post on the chicago area boards, although i haven't been active lately -- if i can be of any help to anyone dumb enough to come this way, let me know).

when i posted here a year ago, the general consesnsus was that there wasn't much street action -- but after my trip i posted that i had seen a bit. looking over recent posts, it appears that the street scene has improved further. any suggestions for the best area, and what the rates are? (i saw los posted recently that he saw a girl just as he passed the border and paid $50, but i was looking for some more possibilities).

when i was there last year, the street girls seemed to just be rep001tered around the border area near the clubs -- that may still be the case.

what is now cinco de febrero used to be called canal street. it was the red-light district -- had maybe ten clubs, pretty hot. that's in the 70s and 80s.

which side of febrero/canal is non-transvestite? north or south on obregon? have others seen street action there?

another style change -- growing up in arizona, we always said "nogo" -- i notice the style on this board is "nogi". not that it's important -- just an observation.

i notice some talk about a crackdown on street touts -- here's an arizona daily star article about it i found while doing due diligence on nogo prostitution:
http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/printsn/8655.php

thanks for any help you can offer.

[Jester]

I was driving in Nogales later Saturday (around 1:30am) and saw a couple of streetwalkers. Was on Obregon by the Blockbuster video store. Saw three of them. One dressed in high heels, fishnet stockings and short shorts, I would rate her around an 8 on the drive-by scale, her friend was dressed in what looked like a school girl uniform but she was obviously around 25 years old. Also saw a blond with big breast but did not get a good look at her since I was focusing on her breast on the drive by. Went around the block and on the second drive by the Blond was gone. And only the first two gals were there.

** WARNING ** Be careful of picking up streetwalkers on Obregon between Victor Hugo street and Cinco de Febrero. This is where the transvestites hang out because it is close to the restaurant where the transvestites do their show on Saturday nights. Yes, that’s right the transvestites have their own restaurant show in Nogales.

For those of you that are not familiar with Nogales, Victor Hugo street and Obregon is near the VH supermarket and Cinco De Febrero is the street that goes to La Conga. Once you pass Cinco De Febrero then you are out of transvestite territory.

[Saint]

About two years ago I made my first trip to Buenos Aires, Argentina. I fell in love with the city and the people there. It broke my heart to see so many people less fortunate than us. There are many children that don't have adequate clothing or food. Shortly after my first trip I had a goal of starting a non-profit foundation or charity to help out these people. I was surprised when Jackson (owner of WSG) was at my apartment in BA and told me that he was in the final stages of starting the same type of charity. I was amazed and touched that we had the same idea. There really was no need to redouble my efforts.

The news media likes to talk about a side of the hobby that the majority of us aren't a part of yet they don't talk about the other aspects. I'm not quite sure how much WSG Charities has raised over the past year but I'm proud to say that many guys have contributed. Some have made very generous donations of $1,000 or more. I think that's wonderful! There are so many guys that receive benefit from WSG. Directly and indirectly. I posted the following below and I would ask you to read it and make a contribution.

Maybe Jackson will decide to branch out and help feed the poor of other cities. There is so much good we as a collective group can do. There is nothing better than helping someone less fortunate than yourself. Please give generously.

I know some of you will have the response, "yeah, I already donate to charities in the USA" or make up some other excuse. Many of us donate to charities in the USA as well but I'd ask that you consider helping out this cause.

________________

"Hi amigos. Some of you may be aware that Jackson has taken the time to start a charity to help feed the poor of Buenos Aires and the surrounding communities. It's ironic because we both had the same thought about trying to do something to help the poor of Buenos Aires. He was much further along and took a lot of time and effort to put it together. Several of you have emailed me over the past several months asking if I still had plans to start something like this. There is really no need to double my efforts as we have the same goal.

I am asking all of you that have received benefit from my posts in the past and all of you that have received benefit from WSG to make a donation. This probably includes just about everyone reading this forum. Even if you have no plans to visit Buenos Aires you have probably received an indirect benefit of living vicariously through members from this forum. I'm not asking you to contribute a huge amount although if you could that would be great. With the sheer number of guys that read this board all it would take is a small donation of $10, $15, $20, $25, or $50 a year to make a big impact. If you can afford it then donate a few times a year.

I'm sure many of you could care less about the poor of Buenos Aires. If that is how you feel than so be it. I strongly feel that everyone can afford to contribute AT LEAST $10 or $15 to this cause. Several of us at the Thanksgiving Dinner last year contributed money to help with this cause. I hope that in the next few months I see more and more people with a designation under their handle that says they have donated. I didn't even know Jackson was doing that but it's probably a good idea. I would personally feel offended if I'm down there and out hobbying with some of you and you didn't contribute at least a little to this charity.

I feel like I've taken time to contribute through my posts and I've never asked any of you for anything. This is the first time and I hope you can find it in your heart to help out. You can make a donation with Paypal.com and that is probably the quick and easiest way. (To make it easy for him you might want to include your handle with your paypal.com donation). Please keep in mind that this is Jackson's project and he is the one that took the time to put it together. I know he probably didn't want to solicit donations and he never asked me to. I'm asking on my own behalf. Thanks in advance for your generosity!"

Saint

www.wsgcharities.com

[LoveLOS]

Chef d'la Dude,
Great report! drool.

Mecca,
[sarcasm mode]
Great first report.

Lets see, If your wife catches you, or you don't wear a raincoat during a serious date, the cost could be astranomical...

Other than that, let us reason together, for all of the following factors come into play when considering this question:
Do you wish to chat, play with her tits, get a BJ, fuck her brains out, pop all three holes, or spend two weeks with her in the Canadian Rockies?
How beautiful (or ugly) is the girl?
Is she 18 or not? (again that could get expensive if not)
How much are you willing to pay?
How well can you negotiate?
Are you horny?
Are you drunk?
Are you stupid? (no offense implied) [/sarcasm mode]

Since BB is in the "strip" it can safely be assumed that the prices are in line with the area for similar services. Try not to pay the chica more than $60-$80 for everything, and the house is gonna want their piece, be sure you get a value in line with other prices others have paid and reported about. I assume you have read the forum...

Check it out and report back.
LoveLOS

[Mecha]

How much does it cost to date a girl at Bora Bora?