Nogales

[Blews69]

Thanks for the great information Lobo I never heard of this place before and I'll definitely pay them a visit and post a report once my mission is complete later this week. Do you happen to know the hours of Osiris and if not speaking Spanish will be a big problem?

Thanks again for the information on Osiris Lobo. I arrived in Nogales, Arizona at around 6 p.m. and parked at the meters since I was planning a short visit. The Department of Homeland Security is now eyeballing people going into Mexico and has set up some sort of orange plastic barriers. I crossed with no incidents and managed to find Osiris with the great directions. I walked into the spa and massage parlor and there were two girls sitting on the couch with no male manager to be found. There was Valerie a young shapely chica in her 20’s and a chunky woman about the same age with very large breasts. They said the cost to go to the room was $40 for an hour. I picked Valerie and off we went. Valerie was very pretty with a great body I’d give her a 9. Negotiated FS she said $ 80 I said $60 and then she pouted so I agreed to the larger amount. Sorry Lobo I tried to stick to the $60 rule but I was thinking with the wrong head again. Valerie was very enthusiastic and she provided a girl friend experience. Lots of kissing and staring into my eyes which was a nice touch. She rode me cowgirl style till I popped. The massage after the experience could have used a lot of work. Headed back to the border and there was a long line to get back across. Looks like the Department of Homeland Security has installed a metal turnstile type entryway and they only allow a certain number of people into the inspection area at a time. All told I spent $120 and would go back for another massage.

[Lobo 003]

BLEWS69,

From what the owner has told me, is that they are open most of the daylight hours and close early evening 7 to 8 pm. Reason for this is they have better traffic during the day as opposed to the night.

They do outcall service as well and one of the guys speaks fairly good english, ask for Daniel.

They are good friends of mine and they will take good care of you.

LOBO

[Blews69]

Thanks for the great information Lobo I never heard of this place before and I'll definitely pay them a visit and post a report once my mission is complete later this week. Do you happen to know the hours of Osiris and if not speaking Spanish will be a big problem?

[Lobo 003]

Will be heading down to Noggie next week to play. I saw Lobo's post about a massage parlor next to the Olivia Hotel on Obregon. It looks like it closes pretty early 7 or 8 in the evening. I was wondering if it is walkable from the border and the prices in general. I've been to Eros a couple to times and lately they have really nice talent but it is way too expensive for Mexico. I also checked out La Conga back in July. That place has really turned into a dump. They had 2 girls. I took the fat Mayan chica for a ride. The room did not have a fan in July. The chick was sweating her butt off after FS. And she would not perform the massage as promised because it was so hot in the room. I'm going to stay away from La Conga. Too bad I've been going to this place off and on for more than 20 years. My first visit was when I was a horny GI back in the mid-80's.

Osiris massage is about a 2 block walk from the border very close and easy to get to. Prices for a massage range from $25 - $35 US for 40 minutes to an hour depending on the frequency of your visits and their business traffic for the day. Great guys extremely friendly, likable and very negotiable. They usually recruit girls outside of Nogales and the girls are normally not so jaded about prices as the local girls. Full service quotes that I have received from the girls range from $600 pesos to $1000 pesos which is about $45 US to $75 US. Finally about Osiris massage, if you don't like their tiny rooms and need more comfort and a bigger bed Hotel Olivia is right next door.

These guys are accustomed to my $60 RULE, try it you might be surprised.

Stay away from Eros massage they treat Americans as if their pockets are lined with gold.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Blews69]

Will be heading down to Noggie next week to play. I saw Lobo's post about a massage parlor next to the Olivia Hotel on Obregon. It looks like it closes pretty early 7 or 8 in the evening. I was wondering if it is walkable from the border and the prices in general. I've been to Eros a couple to times and lately they have really nice talent but it is way too expensive for Mexico. I also checked out La Conga back in July. That place has really turned into a dump. They had 2 girls. I took the fat Mayan chica for a ride. The room did not have a fan in July. The chick was sweating her butt off after FS. And she would not perform the massage as promised because it was so hot in the room. I'm going to stay away from La Conga. Too bad I've been going to this place off and on for more than 20 years. My first visit was when I was a horny GI back in the mid-80's.

[Quick Love]

I think you posted this in the wrong location -your probably looking for the ROCKY POINT spot.

You might want to repost it there

[Az Salesman]

Got into RP late on Monday night but wasn’t ready to settle down so I headed over to Guau Guau. There was only 6 girls working, all were in the 6 – 8 range, which I won’t complain about for a Monday night.

Private dances were $20 for two songs, better than the $26 bucks for ¾ of a song that was the going rate back in the day when RP clubs used to be busy. With few other customers for most of 3.5 hours I was there, I became a personal friend with the guy who sells the private dances. Don’t remember his name so I’ll call him Jr.

My first dance was with Angela from Guadalajara – a sexy little light skinned Latina. Said she was 19 and I believe it – totally in the spirit of a Barely Legal video, naughty schoolgirl outfit and all. She played the pouty bit*h, which she did it pretty well. The dance was fine, but there was a clear message that it would take more than one dance to get to the good stuff so I decided to call it quits after the first dance. The chemistry just wasn't there for me.

Made a point to tip all the dancers on stage. I find this is the best way to get a feel for their personalities. Had the most fun with Carla, who has an exotic look to her. Slightly Asian eyes, full – big sexy lips, great tits, a flat tummy and a nice athletic ass. On stage, she was almost shy, but at the same time was fun to watch on the pole, doing a lot of anti-gravity tricks, and always laughing and joking with the other dancers who sat around the stage.

After her dance, she came out with this Egyptian push-up tit clip that covered only her nipples, and an almost non-existent g-string. WOW! Yes, she could sit down and talk. She spoke great English. I bought another dance ticket instead of the stupid $20 drink so that Jr. would leave us alone. Continuing to be ‘shy’, she sat down beside me instead of on me. I learned that her favorite sunscreen is something called ‘Ocean Potion’, but that she also likes to pour beer over herself and let it soak in while she tans. According to Yahoo, this doesn’t work, but it sounded good to me! Also learned that performing on the pole is her exercise because it gives her a full body workout.

Ok...time to use the dance ticket. She started out with the same shy personality and lots of teasing, just like Angela. I’m sure this is a well-used technique to sell more dances. The difference was, Carla’s laughing and playful personality worked for me better than Angela’s pouty routine. By the end of the second song, she was starting to get into it, with not so much laughing and more eyes-closed grinding. When Jr. came back and asked if I wanted one more, she immediately answered for me. Kinda aggressive, but for only another $20, I didn't complain.

The next two songs were all about her. She found her spot, her pace and grinded on me for minutes on end. Not to complain, but it got to the point where it was starting to hurt in more ways than one. It’s been awhile since I had a girl tremble and shake on my leg like that…it was awesome.

Jr. comes back again and asks if I want one more. Again, she says yes, but she’s facing me and she leans down and whispers “this one’s for you”. She talks to Jr. in Spanish and they get into a little squabble. Finally he leaves and she says “he will give us extra time for this one.” I say “that’s fine, but then you have to let me make an adjustment because I am really uncomfortable. She didn’t know what I meant so I undid the buttons on my shorts. She went back into the shy-girl routine - laughing and all embarrassed. I jokingly told her “this is not my fault, it’s your fault”.

I’ll just say the Carla totally took responsibility for this being ‘her fault’. For the next three songs, she was totally GFE. Not FS but totally fun and completely satisfying. Total damage for the night was $.3, including my drinks and I am a thoughtful tipper.

By the way, Jr. said it was $.1 bar fee plus $ - $.5 for the girl to take the girl out for the 1.5 hours. I was just asking and did not negotiate at that time. I’ll post an update if I find out more.

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[Prok917]

Well I made it back a few times since I last posted here. Definitely started to follow Lobo's advice and it paid off. After getting tired of paying outrageous prices in the clubs, I started to meet some of the streetwalkers hanging out in front of Bolleiros right by the clocktower. The first one I had was named Sofia. We used the hotel right behind boreillos and is definitely affordable at $15 us for the hour. I went back this past weekend with the intentions of meeting up with her sister who is even hotter, but she was not available. We have always been meeting up with this guy named MarcHello, whenever we come over and he escorts us around and hooks us up with what we need. We don't mind paying him a few bucks to just hook us up and call girls for us and whatnot. So when he told me her sister was not available, he helped us find these 3 other girls that were hanging around the bar across from Leo's restaurant. I ended up getting this 18 year old brunette girl who was beautiful with a great body. Both of these encounters were for Lobo's recommended price of $60. Way better deal than the td bars, plus you actually get privacy in a room. Thanks lobo for showing me the way LOL. My only regret was not getting the 18 year old's name or number to meet up with her again this weekend, as I was a VERY satisfied customer and would have loved to see her again as it will be my last weekend here in AZ until possibly next summer. I would have definitely gotten a TLN with her!

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[Precocious One]

The $60 RULE..."ROCKS'

I was in Nogi on Saturday and it sure is nice to be me, walking down the streets people I know honk at me and wave as they go by, girls that I haven't seen in a few years start flirting with me, everybody knows me, what a fantastic feeling. Its good to be LOBO, I probably should buy a house and live there except that I'm not to crazy about living in Nogi, but I do love the people.

Ok now the update, I got 2 girls that night one for myself and another for my friend at $60 bucks a pop for an hour of service which included everything. I could have had more girls that night because they were everywhere I was just to consumed with the fiesta.

I was hounded and followed by all the hustlers that night, I had my very own armada of girl hustlers following me around. I spent most of the night hidding and ducking from them.

Fiesta Patrias, Mexicos Independance day are in full swing and I encourage everyone to go and enjoy the festivities. All of Calle Elias where Boleiro and Lust are located are filled with live music, good food, carnival rides beer, mixed drinks and of course lots of super hot chicas. The Party runs for 10 days, next sunday is the last day. Wednesday is their independance day and will probably have fireworks displays all night. I spent most of my time outside at the fiesta and if it wasn't for the rain I probably would not have gone inside the clubs. Plenty of cops on guard duty for those who are to afraid to go. I still can't get used to cops walking around with machine guns.

Everything is safe and calm for all you worry warts.

Bring your passports you can still pass with a birth certificate but they will pull you over to secondary and make you wait untill they verify your citizenship, who knows how long that will take.

Be safe...

LOBO

Although I haven't pursued any new PfP in over a month as I have had a non-pro GF occupying my time, $700 pesos($52.00 at today's exchange rate) gets you very good sex in Monterrey, MX. Generally a seven or an eight for anywhere from 40 minutes to two hours if you live here or are a familiar face.

The high-end(old money) is holding up here but the low-end is continuing to struggle. Under normal circumstances, the Mexican community generally tends to be an amicable society.

Just recently, I have started to see some blatant acts of desperation among the lower working class.

[Super Gato]

I was in Tucson passing through between San Diego and Texas and read the Lobo reports on this section. Because I had paid for the room in Tucson already and it as already 10pm when I decided to drive down to Nogales and I didn't know my way around, I thought I'd just go to Obsession for a drink or two and a few privados from some senoritas. I heard the music coming from the party when I parked my car and was going to check it out later.

Because of the reports here and elsewhere I expected it to be more expensive than I'd come to know and love in Tijuana, but the drink and chica prices are in the same ballpark as the bars like Lipstick in Reynosa and Danash in Nuevo Laredo. I sorta expected Obsession to be similar to these bars but Obsession was a little more second rate cantina with stripper pole comparatively. When I got there they sat me down at a table opposite the main stage. A mesero immediately brought over a girl who didn't really do much for me. A manager-like guy sidled up next to me and asked what kind of girl I'd like. I pointed to a short, stacked hottie sitting on some local guys lap and asked if she had a twin. He said no but thought I'd like this other girl he brought over.

I liked her. I can't remember her name but she was from Obregon. She had a gorgeous face and pretty eyes. Nice hot body. The boobs were fake but her doctor was an artist. I bought her a drink and was enjoying myself when the guy came back and said I could take her in private for $22 or sexo for an hour for $200. I told him that was expensive and he said I could ask her if she would come down on her rate. I said I'd think about it and returned to the chica. We get another round of drinks and she starts giving me a hot table dance and she's nibbling on my earlobes and whispering to me about how we should go to her room. I keep saying posible, posible and getting weaker and weaker. Long story short, five minutes later I'm in the cuarto and paid the guy the msrp. My plans of just a privado or two and then back to Tucson were out the window.

She gave a great session and I made her work the whole hour. It was great and it took lots of perseverance not to pop too soon and enjoy the ride. By the time I did pop she was glistening in sweat and breathing hard (like I usually am) and embarassed about the sudoración but I told her it was sexy.

Yes, it was expensive and far more than Lobo's $60 rule. I'm used to the expensive bar girls in Nuevo Laredo and Reynosa. Perhaps I should have haggled and gotten a discount. But I tend to get $100-120 girls in NL for 30 minutes or the $150 Reynosa girl in 40 minutes, so on a per minute basis I was doing OK. And like I said, her enthusiasm and drop dead sexiness really made it seem worth it. I can't afford to do that often, but it definitely did make the trip through AZ worthwhile.

If I didn't have a long drive ahead of me in the morning I would have gone and checked out the party and maybe another club before I left. I didn't have my phone or watch but was surprised it was almost 3am when I got to my car. I was surprised just how dead I19 was between the border and Tucson. I didn't see any cars until I saw a sheriff in a median just before the CPB inspection stop (which was closed?). The next car I saw was a photo radar unit a few miles up the road.

[Lobo 003]

The $60 RULE..."ROCKS'

I was in Nogi on Saturday and it sure is nice to be me, walking down the streets people I know honk at me and wave as they go by, girls that I haven't seen in a few years start flirting with me, everybody knows me, what a fantastic feeling. Its good to be LOBO, I probably should buy a house and live there except that I'm not to crazy about living in Nogi, but I do love the people.

Ok now the update, I got 2 girls that night one for myself and another for my friend at $60 bucks a pop for an hour of service which included everything. I could have had more girls that night because they were everywhere I was just to consumed with the fiesta.

I was hounded and followed by all the hustlers that night, I had my very own armada of girl hustlers following me around. I spent most of the night hidding and ducking from them.

Fiesta Patrias, Mexicos Independance day are in full swing and I encourage everyone to go and enjoy the festivities. All of Calle Elias where Boleiro and Lust are located are filled with live music, good food, carnival rides beer, mixed drinks and of course lots of super hot chicas. The Party runs for 10 days, next sunday is the last day. Wednesday is their independance day and will probably have fireworks displays all night. I spent most of my time outside at the fiesta and if it wasn't for the rain I probably would not have gone inside the clubs. Plenty of cops on guard duty for those who are to afraid to go. I still can't get used to cops walking around with machine guns.

Everything is safe and calm for all you worry warts.

Bring your passports you can still pass with a birth certificate but they will pull you over to secondary and make you wait untill they verify your citizenship, who knows how long that will take.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Lobo 003]

I haven't been to Nogales to hobby in recent years, but do you think it's just the tourists driving up the prices, or could it also be rich narcotraficantes?

Tourist by themselves don't drive prices up their presence encourages the clubs to raise prices as it is happening right now. The more tourist traffic equates to higher prices. As I have mentioned in previous post when I talk about prices comming down, that's when you have a decline in the number of tourists.

The narcotraficantes absolutely have an impact and they will spend a super shit load of money in the clubs. They are not there all the time but when they do come, whatever club they choose will prosper signifacantly. An example of this, about a year ago before the border drug wars the narcos came in with their big SUVs shut Calle Elias down went into Boleiros paid the manager to close the club for the rest of the night and to remove all the customers so they can have at it and party with all the girls. They had bodyguards stand outside with machine guns with orders to shoot to kill anyone trying to get in. Where were the cops they were paid off and some were partying with the narcos. I'm sure they made a tremendously obscene profit that night.

Another example in an un named club the narcos came rented a VIP room for the night and had 6 to 7 girls drink and party with them. The room is $100 per hour without the cost of drinks or girls. Same thing in Studio 69 except they charge $200 per hour for VIP.

One more example a fucking narco disallowed me the priviledge of seeing a girl that I was chasing. He was paying her $2000 US a week to be with him, she stopped working, but I would find her in the dance clubs with him. I got my info a little at a time.

Overall narcos do have an impact but we as tourist have a greater impact because we frequent the clubs more regularly than the narcos. That is why I'm trying to implement my $60 RULE. If we banded together we would have a better chance of controling prices instead of it being dictated to us.

It works for me.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Vaquero]

I haven't been to Nogales to hobby in recent years, but do you think it's just the tourists driving up the prices, or could it also be rich narcotraficantes?

[Lobo 003]

So, me and my friends will be in Nogales, AZ area until the end of September, and plan on visiting Nog, MX on a weekly basis. We are going back this Saturday 8/29, and I'm hoping for some advice from you guys. What can we reasonably expect to pay for FS in Obsessions? If the cheapest we are getting for BJ's is $60, then what is reasonable for FS?

Also as a sidenote, later on next week I plan on visiting Eros for a massage. Can anyone point out exactly where this is or what its next to as I did not see it when we were walking around today. $40 for the massage and then how much more for FS $70? What is reasonable to pay for everything?

Thanks in advance, I know its a long post but I'm just trying to educate myself so I don't waste anymore money overpaying LOL.

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Welcome Prok917, I see you found both sites

Obssessions full service average price $150 US my cheapest $100

Eros is located on a corner on calle Elias same street as Boleiro and Potros Cantina same owner as Lust same attitude expect $140 for 40 minutes full service in a high bed and dark room. $40 for massage and $100 for full service very hard to negotiate for less, I've been in there twice in 10 years, not my greatest recommendation. One guy paid $400 for one of his girls Gulp!!!

You want a massage parlor try the one on Avenida Obregon next to Hotel Olivia I believe it's called Sexxus, Isis, Osiris they close around 7-8 pm I can never remember the name correctly. They are good friends of mine and have better prices, attitude and they are willing to work with you. Quality of girls are hit and miss, they do have some new talent that I meant to check on saturday.

If you had more posts I would probably set you up with a contact number and make your dreams come true.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Prok917]

Well I have 2 reports to share. First time in Mexico, and also my first time mongering.

Last Thursday me and a few buddies crossed the border and went straight to Obsessions. We had never been their before, or read up on the forums so we really had no idea where we were going. We pretty much just followed the hawker when we came in. Didn't mind having him show us around, since we learned the area pretty well, and he got his commission at the club. There were a couple pretty good looking girls there, nothing crazy. I had a private dance for the $20, and wanted a BJ. They tried to "hook me up" with a price of $120 which I immediately turned down. I got it down to $60 which I still felt was too much, but oh well it was my first time, and honestly it was a great BJ, and even involved some fucking too so I can't really complain. The girl was great.

Today (Wed), we decided to try some new places, and it was a bad experience. Thankfully, before we went I found the site and read many of Lobo's posts as well as others. We went to Club 69. They had a few good looking girls, we didn't expect much considering it was a Wednesday and all. Now heres where it went sour, the pricing in there was ridiculous. $180 for FS, yea OKAY. I tried to bargain it down to 60 but $120 was the cheapest they were willing to go. We all ended up leaving after a few of us had failed attempts at getting reasonable prices. And most of us are native spanish speakers, so there definitely was no problems communicating. We went to a small dingy spot around the corner, have no idea what the name was but they had terrible quality of girls and it was super tiny in there. At this point we decided to head back to Obsessions, since we had a good time their last week.

The quality of the girls was not the same as Thursday, but there was still 1 good looking girl in there which my friend got a BJ from, once again at $60. Which I still find high and especially considering to the prices you guys talk about, but compared to Club69 which wanted $120 for a BJ that is a steal LOL.

So, me and my friends will be in Nogales, AZ area until the end of September, and plan on visiting Nog, MX on a weekly basis. We are going back this Saturday 8/29, and I'm hoping for some advice from you guys. What can we reasonably expect to pay for FS in Obsessions? If the cheapest we are getting for BJ's is $60, then what is reasonable for FS?

Also as a sidenote, later on next week I plan on visiting Eros for a massage. Can anyone point out exactly where this is or what its next to as I did not see it when we were walking around today. $40 for the massage and then how much more for FS $70? What is reasonable to pay for everything?

Thanks in advance, I know its a long post but I'm just trying to educate myself so I don't waste anymore money overpaying LOL.

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