Nogales

[2nd Chance]

Well, darn. It's too bad our schedules conflict. We'll have to try to plan a weekend adventure!

July 1-2 may be tough, Friday or Sat are better for me.

Bigbob69

[Bob Az]

I finally get a break in the first week of July. I may sneak down there July 1-2.

Anyone want to come along? There are safety in numbers!

July 1-2 may be tough, Friday or Sat are better for me.

Bigbob69

[2nd Chance]

Bob Az, I was heartbroken when they shut them down. It was closed for about a year. When they reopened, it wasn't the same. Now, Teddy's is back to normal.

I just posted about my desire to to to Agua Prieta. I was going to go there a year ago and got a great map from Border Guy, but work life has kept me from going.

I finally get a break in the first week of July. I may sneak down there July 1-2.

Anyone want to come along? There are safety in numbers!

I was born and raised near Bridgeport. Must be were I got my values from. You should check out Agua Prieta. Some nice young new girls at the Patio. Going rate is 400 pesos for the girl and 100 pesos for the room.

[2nd Chance]

I agree that $60 is fair for 1hr in Mexico. $60 only got 15mins at that Connecticut club. As for getting results, I think I can hold my own. Been there done that.

My main problem (as you pointed out) is the same as most. I don't go often enough to invoke corrective behavior on the chicas.

You hit the nail right on the head. Consistency is the key. Organization is the next great factor. If people stick to their guns and invoke the $60 rule, change can occur.

WHAT DO YOU SAY, FELLOW MONGERS ON THIS THREAD???

Join this little revolution? Make a positive impact? Spread the word!

I challenge all of you to help fix this issue. Put them in their place!

[Lobo 003]

I moved to Connecticut for 6 years and in Bridgeport there was a flytrap called Teddy's. It was the same thing! Prices started to creep up and the quality of service was going down. It ran like that for almost a year. Prices even creeped up at AMPs and other clubs.

A large group of us mongers decided to form a "pact" and not offer anymore than $60 for FS. Of course they all said "no", but after 4 months... guess what. They started to say "Yes".

We then dropped it to $40 as further punishment for their stupidity and ran that for another 2 months. Eventually, they all got the message. Word spread about the pact to regular customers (non forum members) and they joined in. Eventually it balanced out at $50 to $60. I haven't been there in 4 years but the last time I checked the Bridgeport forum, it's still at $50-$60.

We may not be able to influence the guys who live in Tucson or the Nogales surrounding areas, but I think there are enough of us on this forum board to make some impact. Hopefully, word will spread and more will join in.

I don't know what the target price should be. The last time I actually desired anything from the girls at Nogie, lapdances were $7, Privates were $15, and BJs were $60! Yeah, it's been awhile. I've avoided Nogie because of the crazy prices that have just been going up and up and up for the last 7 years.

It's time we all took a stand.

I've been doing just that, I've showed a few guys how to manipulate the scene in Nogales with great results. However 3 or 4 guys have a very limited impact. The other problem is not to many people monger with the frequency that I do in Nogi to actually make an impact. Most Americans go there very infrequently and don't know the ins and outs of the Nogi scene and therefore have very little impact with what I'm trying to do. They go all gun ho, guns blazing with pockets full of cash and think nothing of over paying for services. Their only focus is to get laid as many times as possible, and thats OK but let us do it reasonably for a reasonable and fair price. Know when to walk away and learn to think with your big head. When their done partying that's when they start to complain b*tch and wine about how expensive it is in Nogi. I've witnessed this first hand.

I'll put it out there to all mongers who dare to venture to Nogales Sonora. If we want better prices WE MUST TAKE A STAND AND EXCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR DECISIONS. It might mean no pussy. I've bitten the bullet many times and ended up with nothing.

From my perspective based on years of mongering in Nogi and current conditions $40 US is extremely low although desirable, $50 US can be had with a few women $60 US to $70 US is more digestable, common and the girls accept it easily.

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My target range for our pact would be $60 US for full service one hour I get this price on a regular basis and seems fair to me, so it is very attainable.
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The strip clubs are a bit more tricky to navigate my best advice is to offer $60 US and if they turn you down walk away.

Some unknown mongers are allready doing this they are low balling the girls in the clubs and I thank them for helping set the stage. How do I know, the girls tell me and complain about my compatriots.

Lets try this before I tell how to attain the results.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Bob Az]

I moved to Connecticut for 6 years and in Bridgeport there was a flytrap called Teddy's. It was the same thing! Prices started to creep up and the quality of service was going down. It ran like that for almost a year. Prices even creeped up at AMPs and other clubs.

I was born and raised near Bridgeport. Must be were I got my values from. You should check out Agua Prieta. Some nice young new girls at the Patio. Going rate is 400 pesos for the girl and 100 pesos for the room.

[Mr Chub]

Hey Lobo,

Its great to see your posts again. Thanks for the updates and all the tips for all of us. Currently working on getting that passport and seeing first hand the current happenings in Nogie.

May need to check out Agua Prieta.

Mr Chub

[2nd Chance]

I moved to Connecticut for 6 years and in Bridgeport there was a flytrap called Teddy's. It was the same thing! Prices started to creep up and the quality of service was going down. It ran like that for almost a year. Prices even creeped up at AMPs and other clubs.

A large group of us mongers decided to form a "pact" and not offer anymore than $60 for FS. Of course they all said "no", but after 4 months... guess what. They started to say "Yes".

We then dropped it to $40 as further punishment for their stupidity and ran that for another 2 months. Eventually, they all got the message. Word spread about the pact to regular customers (non forum members) and they joined in. Eventually it balanced out at $50 to $60. I haven't been there in 4 years but the last time I checked the Bridgeport forum, it's still at $50-$60.

We may not be able to influence the guys who live in Tucson or the Nogales surrounding areas, but I think there are enough of us on this forum board to make some impact. Hopefully, word will spread and more will join in.

I don't know what the target price should be. The last time I actually desired anything from the girls at Nogie, lapdances were $7, Privates were $15, and BJs were $60! Yeah, it's been awhile. I've avoided Nogie because of the crazy prices that have just been going up and up and up for the last 7 years.

It's time we all took a stand.

[Lobo 003]

i still find myself going to that small border town on a regular basis and i do have to admit that i do enjoy myself immensely. i like the people and the friends i have come to love. everybody is extremely cordial to me and my friends when i bring them along. the town is great with plenty of opportunity for friendships and naughtyness, however the strip clubs can become a nightmare on occasions. it seems that prices fluctuate on the whim of the managers and owners, which is fine, but they need to be realistic with world and local economic conditions. especially while we are experiencing this severe recession.

tourist traffic is extremely slow many business have closed their doors from night clubs to restaurants. many properties are either up for sale or rent, i have never seen so many empty store fronts, all the peddlers are trying very hard to make a sales without success. one peddler ran a half block to catch up to an american lady to sale her a wooden cross after he reached her he was still not able to make the sale.
the cops are in force patroling the streets trying to keep peddlers from harrassing american tourist. my normal shoe shine boy got into trouble with the police while trying to sell me some jewelry, i didn't want his merchandise but i figured i could help him out with a few dollars, he tried to cover it up by polishing my shoes but they still busted him. i seen him later at 4 am and he told me that they took all his merchadise and the $5 bucks i gave him they drove and dumped him across town, so i slipped him another few bucks.

as far as safety is concerned no american tourist should even be worried about walking the streets of nogales, the drug cartels violence is quiet the swine flu is in europe you should be safe i still recommend to go with friends. i regularly walk he streets alone and i don't have any problems, it's funny for me because no matter were i walk i happen to bump into someone i know.

construction along elias steet has been a pain in the ass, thats the street where boleiro and lust are located. it was all ripped up for about a 1/4 mile fenced off very dangerous and difficult to navigate to the clubs. i am told that the construction should be terminated by the 19th or 20th of june, it's actually looking pretty good.

dance clubs are still well attended they not only attract the youth of mexico but also the us side. avenida obregon is still heavy with weekend traffic and everybodys having a good time.

the strip clubs have been poorly attended as of lately with exceptions of boleiro they start off slow in the early evening then get busy later on. i still hate this club for the pressure they excerpt on you to buy girl drinks. a couple of weeks back one of the girls i know had an aching back and needed a massage she was literaly begging me except that the manager was behind me and before i could do anything he chased her away. currently they do have a very good selection of girls from all over mexico, one bad point, that's were i got the highest quote for playtime of $220 ouch!!! this girl insisted that i know what she charged i kept telling her no because i knew she was going to be excessive, but the more i refused the greater her insistency, so i let her tell me, guess what i told her, too much no thank you.

lust has done a lot of remodeling with a few extra vip rooms on the floor and a pool table. the problem with the extra additions is they are starting to run out of room on the floor and becoming cramped and uncomfortable. from the new vips you can't see the floor action real well, pretty soon you will only be able to stand in that club. some new nice girls one that speaks good english and they also implemented dress themes for the girls, saturday is evening gown and i believe friday is school girl, it varies from day to day. also i was quoted $110 for a girl of my choice which peeked my interest however the following week he quoted $180 what the f*ck. it seems if i don't ask for prices they give me something interesting and when i do ask for a price they stick it to me, i guess they think i'm horny when i ask and willing to spend. sorry bud but i'm not that stupid!!!

studio 69 i can't figure this club out, it's the best looking club in town it has a great wonderful elegance and yet it is poorly attended. they used to have the finest girls around and it reflected in their prices. now you can count the customers on one hand and you don't need three fingers.

lord black is still closed it may reopen once the construction is completed.

obsessions has become a hit and miss proposition very poorly attended, the quality of girls fluctuates wildly although you can still have a good time. here's a plug for one of the girls that works there she's a good friend of mine and she is out of this world. i thought she was beautiful before but now, she's a knockout. she just got back from obregon and sporting a new set of very realistic bigger boobs damn they feel real for bolt ons, firmed up and lost about 15 lbs. she went from a good 9 to an all new 15 don't ask me how that's possible she did it and i told her i think i'm in love that made her blush. oh by the way her name is dana pronounced donna in spanish, she's expensive guys at $200. out of all the clubs they are the ones that never adjusted their prices for privados and are still at $25 us all the other clubs charge $20 us

steet action is still to be found on the street where obsessions is located and avenida obregon, just look for the girls running in packs and hanging out on the street. prices range from $40 to $100 us.

as of lately, like i mentioned in one of my earlier posts that i am getting tired of negotiating, so what i have been doing lately is to just flat turn them down and make them go home. i want them to go home and contemplate their stupidity not only the girls but their hustlers as well. i'm just tired of their shit you can only take so much before you explode. it's worked in the past and it's time to do it again.

i hope that provides you guys with a current update so that you can make you plans accordingly.

the only thing i didn't cover were my playtoys but i'm tired of typing for now.

passports are required now!!!

be safe...

lobo

[Lobo 003]

Why do they think theire vagina is worth so much. I think maybe it is because one of us american guys once gave them the asking price.

I the girls think theire pussy is not worth anything less. American guys please be smart with your negotiating remember Mexico is a third world country.

Exactly Balto many Americans have paid the asking price without negotiating and the club owners laugh at all the naive and gullible Americans. That has angered me on many occassion because I've seen it first hand and I'm told everything that goes on by the workers male and female alike.

As far as Mexico being a third world country that is precisely the point and I expect third world prices not equal to or higher than American prices I'm not saying their pussies are worth any less than in the states but the economics of a third world country dictates a price that is reflective of their economy.

Here's an example of a transaction, a new girl comes in from Obregon while she was new I tried to acquire her services, the best I could do was $100 US I was willing to pay it because she was f*king hot, our scheduled date didn't happen, the following week I tried to hook up with her again. This time she was a hard ass and explaining to me that she got $400 US. Needless to say I no longer desire her services. I told her with that mentality you are going to be a very lonely girl once your newness wears off and since then she has received very little work. Now my question is who in their right mind will pay $400 US for third world pussy. See what I mean, Americans need to stop this behavior.

If everybody negotiated like myself we could probably bring the prices down. We as Americans need to set the prices and not let them dictate the prices to us. After all it's our money and they want it.

Be safe...

LOBO

[Balto1]

Why do they think theire vagina is worth so much. I think maybe it is because one of us american guys once gave them the asking price.

I the girls think theire pussy is not worth anything less. American guys please be smart with your negotiating remember Mexico is a third world country.

[Lobo 003]

Man, wtf fellas.

Hate to quote Rodney King but, "Can't we all just get along"? This battle of words is kinda killing my groove here on this thread.

I'm wonding what has happened to the quality posts? Let's get back to the fun at hand. How is the action in Nogie? I'm planning a trip down there in 3 weeks for a weekend adventure and I want to be ready!

That's old news my friend.

It has been a little quiet around here lately, I've still been playing in Nogi and still getting my deals, however I have come to realize how powerful my knowledge is as to mongering in Nogi and have refrained from divulging any more of my secrets, not to say I won't in the future, I'm just meditating on the subject for now, besides I can't have a bunch of Lobitos running around Nogi. There won't be any girls left for me.

As for action in Nogi, !!! f*cking shit !!! those dumbasses who run the clubs are stupid or highly intelligent Einsteins I can't figure which, you try to figure it out, prices for girls are up again around $180 to $220 for full service. street girls all want $100, the worst the economy the higher the price. There is no money for the girls the American presence has declined tremendously and most girls go home with their daily pay which is approximately $300-$400 pesos, 20 to 25 US, daytime girls receive less $15 US.

I myself am getting tired of negotiating everytime I get a girl, it's has become way to redundant and tiresome.

I was negotiating with one club girl for outside playtime she initially wanted $150 for an hour I told her $50 she then gave me a funny look, she countered with $100 US I told her 80 US for 1 1/2 hours needless to say she went home with $15 US and I kept my money safe in my wallet.

Another girl I was working made only her day shift pay and evening pay and I was going to pay her $100 US if she skipped her night shift, go figure.
I told one girl in a club that I have a pocket full of cash and can't seem to spend it in the clubs anymore, she said spend it on me, I told her not at $10 a drink and $180 plus for her company, that's 2 to 3 girls on the street. I don't know maybe I'm just a codo (cheap ass) the girls I do get outside the clubs seem to be very content with their compensation.

I have become disalussioned with the strip club scene in Nogi for now I'm just tired of their high prices from drinks to girls and I refuse to pay their over inflated prices, of course outside the clubs is a completely different world. I guess I should post a current Nogi update for everbody that still wants to go there.

Finally, if you want to monger in Nogi make sure you bring lots of cash you can still have fun just make sure your money is gold plated, no! make that triple gold plated.

Bring your PASSPORTS!!!

Be safe...

LOBO

[2nd Chance]

Man, wtf fellas.

Hate to quote Rodney King but, "Can't we all just get along"? This battle of words is kinda killing my groove here on this thread.

I'm wonding what has happened to the quality posts? Let's get back to the fun at hand. How is the action in Nogie? I'm planning a trip down there in 3 weeks for a weekend adventure and I want to be ready!

[Critical Sal]

Hey all,

I plan on going to Nogales some time in the near future and need someone to go with. I don't know how safe it is for me to go by myself at night. I'm new in Arizona so I don't have any friends yet. Pretty much any weekend would work besides next weekend, so let me know.

[Lj Mexico]

I need a wingman this coming weekend in Nogales, anyone plan on going down Friday the 8th, I have a feeling that my friend is going to bail out with money problems, so I might need someone down from phoenix, only thing you have to pay for is gas spilt in half about $10, its guaranteed puss when your around me in the clubs, let me know what’s up.