Puerto Vallarta

[Vitrea]

Any one know where I can buy vibrators in PV?

Thanks

Come one. No reply means there is not one adult store in PV or not one knowledgeable person that cares to answer? .

[Vitrea]

Any one know where I can buy vibrators in PV?

Thanks

[Pvtrader]

Sorry to report that the massage scene is dead in PV. The one I mentioned earlier on Basilio Badilla has some cute girls. But all is too mechanical for me and touching very limited. Damely has been around for years. Same ole same ole. There is one on left side of Bas Badilla just after you make the left hand turn at Freddy Tucans. You can convince the girl to make an "exception." It is So so. I am tired of all of this.

Since I speak fluent Spanish I am spending more time picking up the locals. There is a beauty names Leslie Gabriela located in a sports bar downtown. Will tell you more when I have more to report.

Forget the massage scene unless you just want a good massage.

[Bifford]

I just wanted to know if anyone had some info on the Mexican Cantina just west of Insurgentes on F. I. Madero? I've been in there a few times early in the afternoon recently and it seems like a pretty good place. The first time a hot Mexican woman came over and asked me for a beer. But she was very rude about it and I was with a friend. So I just ignored her. But I'm sure she was a pro. I think it's called Azzure or something like that. And the bartender has huge tits which she doesn't seem to mind showing off. The beers are only 14 pesos. I'm going back soon and there's a hotel close by that only charges 150 pesos for the hour.

That would be the Blue Whale, one of the stars on the tacky bar tour. LOL. You never know who might be hanging near the entrance or inside to satisfy your wanton desires. And yes, the ladies can sometimes be the size of whales. Heh heh.

[Vitrea]

lookie here,

i'll be back to have a juarania fest on my german [CodeWord134] [CodeWord134]. hit me up with a email if your in town same time.

cheers

i will miss you by few days. how are you? long time no posts :-)

[Exthalmus]

lookie here,

i'll be back to have a juarania fest on my german [CodeWord134] [CodeWord134]. hit me up with a email if your in town same time.

cheers

[Jason96]

I just wanted to know if anyone had some info on the Mexican Cantina just west of Insurgentes on F. I. Madero? I've been in there a few times early in the afternoon recently and it seems like a pretty good place. The first time a hot Mexican woman came over and asked me for a beer. But she was very rude about it and I was with a friend. So I just ignored her. But I'm sure she was a pro. I think it's called Azzure or something like that. And the bartender has huge tits which she doesn't seem to mind showing off. The beers are only 14 pesos. I'm going back soon and there's a hotel close by that only charges 150 pesos for the hour.

[Vitrea]

Great report Vitrea!

Thank you for your kind words! I fully agree with you to treat every girl with respect and as I know some of the members here they will for sure confirm it!

I also see escort services as a combination of having a lot of fun with a girl in combination with sex. But if things are that way that the girls just walk in the Motel room without even knocking on the door, saying hola and then ask directly for the payment then something must be wrong. We both know that every time we have a girl from PVPlaymate come over we pay around 2 000 Pesos for 1 hour or +3 000 Pesos for 2 hours. For this prices I can expect a girl that has a good attitude! But after all the girls I had from PVPlaymate or other escort services in PV I must say I was deeply disapointed many times! It can not be correct paying a girl such a high price and after 50% of the time is over the girls jumps in her cloth and wants to go. If the escort services like PVPlaymate is not doing something against things like this then I avoid there rip off services and spend the money in a better way by picking up a girl from the street or club that only costs me like 3 000 pesos for 4 hours and if I treat her with respect she even stays longer or gives me a better price next time! If I treat a Escort girl good by giving her first of all the payment, then going into the jacuzzi with her and enjoying a drink and a chit chat I get nothing else as coldness back. After going out of the jacuzzi and trying to break the ice of the girl by relexing in bed with her I get again disapointed. After all this points I already invested in the wrong way because I do not pay for a ice block. I and everybody else using escort agencys are paying for a nice time with a great girl but not this type of girls I mostly get and also other members get as they posted here clearly!

I am happy for you that things run great if you book an escort girl! I was fucked so many times with bad services that I avoid there shit services.

Agree with you fully. No arguments. I sincerely hope folks managing these services see these discussions and consider them as positive input / constructive evaluation and educate their staff on our needs and perspective on the girls attitudes. I am going to be there in March and I will report back.

BTW, I find agencies a vital part of the scene in PVR and I want them to stay in business. During the day they are sometimes the only quality choice and at night.....:-)

[The Sex Hunter]

Great report Vitrea!

Thank you for your kind words! I fully agree with you to treat every girl with respect and as I know some of the members here they will for sure confirm it!

I also see escort services as a combination of having a lot of fun with a girl in combination with sex. But if things are that way that the girls just walk in the Motel room without even knocking on the door, saying hola and then ask directly for the payment then something must be wrong. We both know that every time we have a girl from PVPlaymate come over we pay around 2 000 Pesos for 1 hour or +3 000 Pesos for 2 hours. For this prices I can expect a girl that has a good attitude! But after all the girls I had from PVPlaymate or other escort services in PV I must say I was deeply disapointed many times! It can not be correct paying a girl such a high price and after 50% of the time is over the girls jumps in her cloth and wants to go. If the escort services like PVPlaymate is not doing something against things like this then I avoid there rip off services and spend the money in a better way by picking up a girl from the street or club that only costs me like 3 000 pesos for 4 hours and if I treat her with respect she even stays longer or gives me a better price next time! If I treat a Escort girl good by giving her first of all the payment, then going into the jacuzzi with her and enjoying a drink and a chit chat I get nothing else as coldness back. After going out of the jacuzzi and trying to break the ice of the girl by relexing in bed with her I get again disapointed. After all this points I already invested in the wrong way because I do not pay for a ice block. I and everybody else using escort agencys are paying for a nice time with a great girl but not this type of girls I mostly get and also other members get as they posted here clearly!

I am happy for you that things run great if you book an escort girl! I was fucked so many times with bad services that I avoid there shit services.

The girls probably don't see it that way. In their mind, I am sure they do not see much difference. Just a bit more added security for them if they collect the money first. I think a lot of it also depends on the routines we establish. Three years ago, when I first saw a PV playmates girl for the very first time, I explained to her how I prefer to do business and the routine got established. If an occasional new girl wants to do it differently, I do not get aggressive. I speak to her in a calm voice and nice smile on my face and ask her to call Melissa and have her vouch for me.

The sex hunter, As far as I am concerned you are the "king" of the PV forum. No one else has contributed to this particular forum as much as you did and do. I do my part, but second only to you. I have other countries and cities to deal with. (smiley). I am saying this because I want you to you to know that what I am about say are more general comments directed toward the less experienced, less savvy ones and not to you.

IMHO, escort interaction is not just about the act of sex. To me it is an intimate, efficient male-female physical and sensual interaction minus the drama of a pick up. I try not to make it emotional but sometimes you can't help it. When it does become transiently emotional, it just speaks for the quality of the interaction. When I pay for an escort, like all hot blooded males, I do expect some basics such as sex and her stated time with me but I do not demand anything else. I do my best to earn it. I like the girl to be friendly, sensual, relaxed and non a clock watcher. I do everything possible to make that happen. Few things that I do may help novices: First, I do not lay my paws all over them when they walk in. A big smile, gentle kiss on the cheek and a delicate hug is all they get. I start off with a drink, music and a bit of chit chat. I always shower and request the girl take a quick shower too or take a shower together. I almost always have massage oil and give the girl a nice 10 minute massage. After that I just let things happen. Will this always work? No but it does majority of the times. The need for making the other party comfortable goes both ways. Some girls walk in with an attitude thinking they are doing us a favor (instead of an even give and take transaction) and they do make it difficult. Even them, most of the time can be calmed down as I double my efforts. Undoubtedly we will have some negative interactions along the way.

Sometimes we forget to put themselves in the girls shoes. It is true they are doing this for the money, but they are human too and not robots. They have emotions and their own fears and concerns. We screen the girls, ask for pictures, stats, attitude and a whole lot of information but when a girl knocks on our door they have no idea who they are going to run into. Even though we are paying them, it is our job to treat them with kindness and respect. The nicer we are to them, the more we get back in return.

TSH, you have heard me say this many times over on this forum and on broader ISG. If I am in the mood for just sex I go to a club. Cheaper and quicker. When I call an escort, my mind set is completely different and I act different. I am sure there will be people that disagree with me in part or whole but that is OK. I respect everybody's opinion. I am just sharing mine as that is what this forum is intended for.

[Vitrea]

Yes, it is absolutly interesting how this girls are to us. Maybe I must treat them nicer in the future or give them more tip!

The girls probably don't see it that way. In their mind, I am sure they do not see much difference. Just a bit more added security for them if they collect the money first. I think a lot of it also depends on the routines we establish. Three years ago, when I first saw a PV playmates girl for the very first time, I explained to her how I prefer to do business and the routine got established. If an occasional new girl wants to do it differently, I do not get aggressive. I speak to her in a calm voice and nice smile on my face and ask her to call Melissa and have her vouch for me.

The sex hunter, As far as I am concerned you are the "king" of the PV forum. No one else has contributed to this particular forum as much as you did and do. I do my part, but second only to you. I have other countries and cities to deal with :-) (smiley). I am saying this because I want you to you to know that what I am about say are more general comments directed toward the less experienced, less savvy ones and not to you.

IMHO, escort interaction is not just about the act of sex. To me it is an intimate, efficient male-female physical and sensual interaction minus the drama of a pick up. I try not to make it emotional but sometimes you can't help it. When it does become transiently emotional, it just speaks for the quality of the interaction. When I pay for an escort, like all hot blooded males, I do expect some basics such as sex and her stated time with me but I do not demand anything else. I do my best to earn it. I like the girl to be friendly, sensual, relaxed and non a clock watcher. I do everything possible to make that happen. Few things that I do may help novices: First, I do not lay my paws all over them when they walk in. A big smile, gentle kiss on the cheek and a delicate hug is all they get. I start off with a drink, music and a bit of chit chat. I always shower and request the girl take a quick shower too or take a shower together. I almost always have massage oil and give the girl a nice 10 minute massage. After that I just let things happen. Will this always work? No but it does majority of the times. The need for making the other party comfortable goes both ways. Some girls walk in with an attitude thinking they are doing us a favor (instead of an even give and take transaction) and they do make it difficult. Even them, most of the time can be calmed down as I double my efforts. Undoubtedly we will have some negative interactions along the way.

Sometimes we forget to put themselves in the girls shoes. It is true they are doing this for the money, but they are human too and not robots. They have emotions and their own fears and concerns. We screen the girls, ask for pictures, stats, attitude and a whole lot of information but when a girl knocks on our door they have no idea who they are going to run into. Even though we are paying them, it is our job to treat them with kindness and respect. The nicer we are to them, the more we get back in return.

TSH, you have heard me say this many times over on this forum and on broader ISG. If I am in the mood for just sex I go to a club. Cheaper and quicker. When I call an escort, my mind set is completely different and I act different. I am sure there will be people that disagree with me in part or whole but that is OK. I respect everybody's opinion. I am just sharing mine as that is what this forum is intended for.

[The Sex Hunter]

You are a good man. I am not disagreeing with you. Just interesting how different people can have different experiences.

Yes, it is absolutly interesting how this girls are to us. Maybe I must treat them nicer in the future or give them more tip!

[Vitrea]

Even after booking one girl 5 times in 1 month and the girl always got a 200 Peso tip from me the girl wanted the cash straight ahead. I also had once a girl just working for an escort service that I booked the first time and another girl I had a few days before told her a lot about me. Still no point of getting around the first pay then sex system.

You are a good man. I am not disagreeing with you. Just interesting how different people can have different experiences.

[The Sex Hunter]

Both could be correct. They know me well and the girls talk. One girl who I was seeing for the first time, knew my preferences. She learned them from her friend / roommate I saw the day before. I never shorted them so they know not to make a fuss about it. I am sure they demand money upfront if they do not know you.

-Ben

Even after booking one girl 5 times in 1 month and the girl always got a 200 Peso tip from me the girl wanted the cash straight ahead. I also had once a girl just working for an escort service that I booked the first time and another girl I had a few days before told her a lot about me. Still no point of getting around the first pay then sex system.

[Vitrea]

No matter what agency I have selected in the past, the first the girls want is cash! Even if I asked girls for extras like Anal they want the cash before the actions starts. The girl does not know you so if she agrees first sex then cash she might not see one Peso and all girls from agencys know they need to give cash to there agencys after the time is over so there risk is even higher for them. Appart from this, all PVPlaymate girls wanted to see the cash before from me.

Both could be correct. They know me well and the girls talk. One girl who I was seeing for the first time, knew my preferences. She learned them from her friend / roommate I saw the day before. I never shorted them so they know not to make a fuss about it. I am sure they demand money upfront if they do not know you.

-Ben

[The Sex Hunter]

Just as a side note, I have never had a pV playmates girl ask for money upfront. If they do, no matter who she is, I threaten to send them back. They stay only if they agree.

No matter what agency I have selected in the past, the first the girls want is cash! Even if I asked girls for extras like Anal they want the cash before the actions starts. The girl does not know you so if she agrees first sex then cash she might not see one Peso and all girls from agencys know they need to give cash to there agencys after the time is over so there risk is even higher for them. Appart from this, all PVPlaymate girls wanted to see the cash before from me.