Puerto Vallarta

[GSW88]

Just came back from a long weekend in PVR. Candy has been remodled and still has some talent. Best place for fun is Mirage. Awesome girls with great GFE. Takeout out is 280 for two hours but worth the money if you got it.

[Loco Mojjo]

Will be in PV on the week of Mar 10th.

Anything special happening that week?

LM

[Bifford]

as previously reported, the cheaper, dustier, non-touristy clubs for you adventurous spanish-speakers (like the clubs in la zona) are closed during the day. however, if your standards aren't high, you might uncover something, as i did today.

i decided to check out the daytime scene at el y ella club, which was reported on by skug37 last september. it is easily reached. for the thrifty, take a blue/white bus north from the city to the road just before sam's. get off and walk inland on this very straight road. about 1/2 way there you'll pass an rv park on the left. after about a mile the road curves to the left. (if your bus is marked "pittilal" it turns at sam's, and you can stay aboard until the curve.)

at the curve there is a dirt road on the right. take this a few hundred feet. you'll see conejita's club (red & green) on the right. the next building (yellow & purple) past it is el y ella.

today at 1:30 pm (monday) both clubs were locked up tight. i peered into them, walked past, and turned to go back when a girl yelled down to me from a sort-of motel walkway above el y ella. her name was maria, short with a big smile, about a 4 in looks. we negotiated 450 pesos for fs. she wasn't worth it.

she led me upstairs, hushing me all the while, to her room, unkempt with the radio blaring. she said she was a dancer at the club. her moves in bed, however, were almost non-existent. a bored hand massage, no oral, a slip-on of the condom, no eye contact and a motionless posture, waiting for me to finish. and a long wait it was, since the droopy tits and stretch marks were a big turnoff.

anyway, i hope her fellow dancers are more customer-oriented, and i look forward to reports on them from you nite-owls.

[Winston569]

Urban,
I understand what you are saying, but, in all fairness, it is a market system, and the girls can charge whatever they think they can get. Just pointing out to them that they are above the PV usual is not going to get you a better rate, just an annoyed, rude response telling you to go elsewhere. If the market will not bear what they charge, they won't make money and they will have to lower their prices or move somewhere else with their "stable". Actually, this agency these ladies work for (PV Playmates) is charging US prices for what appear to be very attractive ladies, more in the 500-1000 range for places like LA or Vegas. If you are looking for bargains, these folks obviously are not the place to go. On the other hand, at least in PV the agency can talk in terms of what is offered, instead of implying, and then not delivering (or upselling like so many US escorts do) since things are legal and what you pay for is what you get. Some folks are willing to pay a little more for that extra assurance (granted, that is more common in Canada than Mexico; in PV you expect to pay quite a bit less).
She is right, though. Most of the clubs end up costing you about the same in drinks, tips, and incidentals. Juniors almost always gets 3-5 bills from me every night I spend there - of course, I do spend more than an hour all total. I think it is all in what you want, what you expect, and what you are willing to pay. To castigate a girl for what she charges is counterproductive, especially with the large number of ladies available. It isn't personal, its just business. It has long been known that PV is no longer a place for a consistent bargain, but if you are willing to spend more, great service is available. For bargain hunters, there are still great places to go in Mexico, PV just isn't one of those. I am just guessing (and I am sorry if I am wrong about this; it's my opinion, and I could be wrong), but it seems that most folks looking for P4P action in PV are coming down to get reliable, consistent service from better-than-average looking ladies without the constant LE and ripoff hassle of the US. For bargain hunters, TJ is still rolling! Anyway, good wishes and happy hunting. Just my two cents, and probably not really worth that, just making conversation.

I remain,
Your obedient servant,
Winston

[UrbanWildlife]

Hello guys,
I am organizing a party cruise from Puerto Vallarta to Mazatlan on a Hatteras Motor Yacht 80 My Sky Lounge if anyone is interested. There will be several p4p girls on board as well as some non-pros. Presently I have 10 people booked, not counting the girls. This cruise will be taking place on February 28th. Contact me for more information.

I am also organizing a group of guys to go on a nightclub tour in the Philippines for August. This trip will be catered to those who have wanted to go to a destination such as the Philippines, but do not feel comfortable going alone.
On April 17th I will be going to Cartagena, and possibly Medellin, Colombia, to set up a future group trip for those interested in a party tour to South America. If anyone is interested in traveling with me in April get in touch, but this is a trip I am taking by myself for the reasons stated above.

[UrbanWildlife]

I am sorry to have to post another message about this puta, but I just received another email from Daniella, and I want to post it so you all can see what type of attitude you are dealing with when it comes to this girl. Now remember this is a girl who claims she has never lived in the United States and uses a internet translation service to put her words into english. I also want to clarify that I have only contacted her 2 times, which I posted on here my letters to here. I am not sure why she is continuing to write me, other than the fact I called her out on her pricing and what I believe is to be her lies.

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:12:51 -0813

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Subject: Go fuck yourself

It's not that I'm too expensive, it is just that you cannot afford it. You stupid ass gringos are all alike so go and fuck yourself, stick a dildo up your ass.

adios

[UrbanWildlife]

I responded to Daniellas letter and here is her response. I will leave it up to you guys if you care to spend that kind of money for a piece of ass, despite its beauty.

Hola Eduardo,

I am being honest with you, and the format is already set. I just put in the words.Most everyone I communicate with speaks English only, so I am accustomed to typing and translating. I am real and my donation is my donation. I may be higher compared to some...but you must compare apples to apples.

I know for a fact at Candy's y Prestige, or Mirage, etc. It is 140$ US to be with a girl and 200$US to take her home. This is not to mention the transportation there ( min 5$) the cover to get in (10$MIN) , and then the drink prices for the girl ( 15$-25$US), don't forget the tipping to your waiter and the guy who tales you to the room...let alone your own drinks. You can do the math. All for a girl who works a 12 hours shift and may have countless partners in a week's time. Many feel my service is better. In the comfort of their home, hotel room or suite. Relaxed, not stressed, no worries or bothersome wait staff expecting a tip. As well as privacy. At 300 US per hour it is FAR better in many gentlemans opinion.

that is Okay if you do not think so. I cannot please everyone..

On Feb 10, 2008 3:19 PM, Eduardo <xxxxxxx@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Daniella,

Have you heard of robbery?. Your prices are United States higher end prices, and you my love are NOT performing your services in the United States market. You can get just as beautiful of girls from Hysteria, Prestige, Candy's e.t.c. for quite a bit less. I also do not believe you are using an english/spanish translator on the internet, because it would never provide you the type of writing format you are using, so it helps to be honest. Good luck to you.

[UrbanWildlife]

I wrote to Daniella and inquired about her english speaking ability, costs, and services offered, and you can see by her response she is full of shit. For one thing, using a english translator on the internet will never provide you the format she is responding to me in, furthermore, a Mexicana would never use the term roses to describe money. Lastly, she claims to never have been in the U.S, but her costs are U.S higher end prices. She is a fucking lying fraud in my book, but if someone wants to spend that kind of money and take a chance, good luck, better you than me.

There is no doubt that she is beautiful. My email to her and her response back to me is posted below.

Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:39:17 -0800
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Hi Eduardo,
I speak Espanol, but translate on internet to English, to learn more Ingles! I have never lived in the U.S
I do it all, except anal.

It is simple & easy to see me. I promise a reply within 24 hours.

Please reply with the information:

1.) Where you are staying while you are in town?, or where do you live?.
2.) What SPECIFIC date and time you would like to see me?
3.) Meeting at your place, or do we need to find another location?
4.) Local (OR US) cell phone number, or hotel number and room number?

My donation is 300 US roses for one hour OR 400 US roses for two hours.
** 3day (1500 US ROSES) 5day (2500 US roses) and 7day (3000 US Roses) packages available

Look forward to meeting you,

Daniella

On Feb 10, 2008 1:14 PM, eduardoxxxxxx <
xxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Hello!,
I saw your ad on Craigslist and I am inquiring about your pricing and what you have to offer. Do you do oral, full service, anal?. Do you do dating type of escort service, such as going out dancing e.t.c. Have you ever been in the United States? Your beauty is breathtaking and now I am interested in seeing it first hand.

[HotWheels]

I'll be in PV shortly on a Sunday and was wondering if there will be any action in Las Antorchas? Will they even be open?

[Bifford]

Any update on full service ladies advertising on CraigsList?

Good question, Simplepleasures, especially with cuties like Daniella advertising recently. For those with some $$, here's the link: http://pv.en.craigslist.com.mx/ers/566802123.html

P.S. I emailed Daniella and asked her rate for FS. I just received her reply: "My donation is 300 US roses for one hour OR 400 US roses for two hours."

[Major Mouthful]

I was just casually walking down the street, a reasonably nice SW walked me in the door at Erendira. This is southside at Naranjo just south of Aquilles Serdan.

She offered BJ for 100 pesos.- 100 for the room. I was on my way somewhere and didn't have a condom, so I passed.

I was approached in the same block a year ago.- she had a room upstairs around the corner.

I would walk in the door at Erendira and ask the man at the desk where the girls are.- worst he could say is "I don't know".

Spanish is a must!

[Bifford]

I went by Las Antorchas at 5 pm on Tuesday (1 ship in port) and found 4-5 girls working, all chubby. After ordering a "lager" (less harsh than El Sol, their other choice) for 20 pesos, I settled in with 6-7 other clients, 2 of whom sounded like Americans.

A fairly tall, fairly cute girl appeared at the kitchen door and waved, but wouldn't come over, so I negotiated at the door. She spoke hardly any English. She wanted 700 pesos for covered FS for 20 minutes + 200 more for a room. (Yes, that rooming house in the back IS open but it's officially closed down, so you have to walk out front and around. You didn't hear this from me. )

Anyway, I got her down to 500 (+ 200) pesos, roughly $70 US total, too much in my opinion for a pickup in a dusty non-touristy bar in Mexico.

Her name is Kareli, tall, pretty face, full-breasted, big nipples, big belly, slim curvy legs, curly dark shoulder-length hair. She's got 3 kids. She works every day from 1-6. Nice enough personality.

Her performance was fine, especially at the climax when she (finally) moved her pelvis, moaned a little, rubbed my back and gave me that look like she might be enjoying herself. Otherwise, it was an effort early on to get her to remove all her garments, do a little foreplay, or even look at me. And she wouldn't do oral.

[Bifford]

Ok guys we need updates... I will be traveling to PV in mid Feb 08... Now is there a bus from los muertos beach to la zona?... I am willing to take a 5 pesos bus vs. A 5 dollar taxi...So in regards to Antorchas--can I walk their from playa de los muertos beach area? Or can I take a bus and asked to be dropped of by hacienda hotel or to san javier hosp?

Mr. Logan,

I guess there have been few updates because little has changed!

For example, Las Antorchas is still open in the day. I went last week at 3 pm when there were no ships and encountered the same old scene: two overweight women, 20-peso beer, and the walkway to rooms still blocked off.

For example, the Hotel Erendira on Naranjo still features one or two oldtimers across the street. I did go twice, in the late afternoon, with newbie "Ana", who is younger (22), cuter, and asks 500 pesos (room included). She is in a hurry but will slow down if you ask. Alas, this appears to be a rock-bottom price for FS in PV.

I would take a cab your first time to Zona Rosa to get the lay of the land. It's too far to walk. It's near-impossible to describe the bus drop-off point. Yes, there are green busses that pass by. The problem is they don't run past 11 pm, when things get started. And it's not a direct route--you have to endure a long dusty trip through the "suburb" of Pitillal, with many stops. On the other hand a frugal man can and should take a bus to Las Antorchas in the manner you described.

We look forward to hearing of your discoveries in February!

[Reese27]

If memory serves, she and her new husband moved to Mexico City. Not a million miles away naturally, but not knowing more details and with her being out of the business that might as well be the moon.

I appreciate that you took the time to answer. She was a good friend and losing touch with her was my fault. Thanks again.

Reese

[Pv1234]

I knew Patty very well both in and out of Damely. She was great fun, and I will miss her. I understand from PV1234 that she has moved far away. If anyone knows where she is, would you please drop me a note. I would appreciate that very much.

If memory serves, she and her new husband moved to Mexico City. Not a million miles away naturally, but not knowing more details and with her being out of the business that might as well be the moon.