Puerto Vallarta

[Dickhead]

originally posted by allen eire
dickhead,

you mentioned never asking the maids or laundry gals directly for sex for $$$ ??? i was almost ballsy enough to do it once to a very cute latina ( i know just enough espanol to get me in trouble.) maid but did not want to get knifed by a potentially upset boyfreind/bellman. is it just protocal and the bellman will know what gals are willing to fuck? do you tell him which one peeked your interest or do you allow him to select a gal? please elaborate

i do not think it is advisable to randomly approach any type of girl in mexico and my spanish is pretty good. it works in buenos aires but as you say could get you knifed in mexico, or at the very least thrown out of your hotel. and i didn't have any girl in mind. another guy there told me that some of the maids and laundry girls were in play and he told me the right bellhop to see.

ps: i am not really a commie, just more of a socialist or collectivist who believes in progressive taxation and limits on excessive wealth accumulation. i am ok with the concept of private property. i believe the true measure of any society is how it treats its weakest citizens. i just threw in the commie stuff to [CodeWord140] off nibu.

[Allen Eire]

dickhead,

even though you are a commie bastard, i totally agree with you on this point.

i've been to pv three times and have never and i mean never paid more than $50 for sex with a hot senorita. i may be a capitalist pig but i understand the value of a dollar.

i got laid at los lobos bar near oldtown a few times. a three song private lap dance in a black curtain enclosed booth at that time cost $33 us. this was of course dec 2000 the last time i was there. anyway the most memorable experience was with a 22y/o chica that had natural d-cups, milky white skin and a great attitude to boot. she reminded me of a young delta burke before she ate herself out of a hollywood career. this gal enthusiastically rode the beejeezes out of me and pratically sucked my tounge out of my mouth. i tipped her $15 extra on top of the standard $33 plus bought her one drink $7 so okay $55 but damn! it's a fine way to start a vacation!

you mentioned never asking the maids or laundry gals directly for sex for $$$ ??? i was almost ballsy enough to do it once to a very cute latina ( i know just enough espanol to get me in trouble.) maid but did not want to get knifed by a potentially upset boyfreind/bellman. is it just protocal and the bellman will know what gals are willing to fuck? do you tell him which one peeked your interest or do you allow him to select a gal? please elaborate

the other excellent spot to get laid was at massage lucy in oldtown. i got an awesome one hour massage for $35 by a early 30's gorgeous girl next door type (i hate excesive make-up.) when it was nearing the end of the massage she seductivly asked me if i would like that problem that has arisen to be taken care of for only $30 more!! hello, why is anyone paying $600 dollars for sex in pv!!??

[Dickhead]

$600!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are NUTS.

Advice to any sane mongers out there:

1). If you see a girl in Junior's you like, get her cell phone # and call her later.
2). Or, go to Junior's and work up an appetite, then go to the Malecón and sit on a bench looking lonely. The rest will take care of itself. About $60 would be ballpark.
3). Or, ask your friendly local cabbie. $50-$80 for her and $20 for the cabbie is PLENTY.
4). Or be a Dickhead and fuck one of the maids or laundry girls at your hotel. Do NOT approach them. Deal through your friendly bellhop. $50 + $20 for the bellhop is PLENTY.

Again, the minimum wage in Méjico is less than $5 per DAY so use some common sense and don't mess the country up for everybody. I will be there for the whole month of June and I don't need this type of senseless inflation. Have some drinks and some music in your room. Offer to feed the chica. She will hang around for round two for no extra charge or possibly a propinita, IF you are a nice guy, clean, and play your cards right.

[Anonymous]

I noticed there was little recent information about this great place, and so I thought I would contribute a short report.

Of note, Puerto Vallarta is not the place to go for a bargain. Prices are only slightly lower than in the US for comparable service. HOWEVER, the quality of girl and service are extrodinary, and there really is very little "attitude" even with very attractive ladies. Save up your money. Also, be very careful about using a credit card in the establishments. They will often inflate the amount they quoted you as a "convenience" charge, up to $100 USD! Carry enough cash to get the job done! Also, I would suggest converting your cash into pesos before visiting these places. They will rip you off with the exchange rate (on the other hand, not usually more than a dollar or two, so not really a big deal -- cab drivers, on the other hand, CANNOT figure out the exchange and usually will end up overcharging you by 10 bucks or more, so have some pesos for them!!).

Acting on previous advice, Juniors was the first place I hit. Very accessable from Sheraton or Camino Real, only 30-50 pesos for the ride (5 USD). All prices in USD from now on...

Juniors: $10 cover, free tequila shot before you enter. Very clean place, lots of staff. Girls sitting everywhere. I would suggest a table or booth at the back so you can look over everything. Often, a girl will come up an sit with you. If you like her, cool. If not, tell her you would like to be by yourself for a now, or you can say "Mejor Despoes (sp?)" (May-hor des-poo-EHS) which means "later would be better". Pay attention to the names of the girls on the dance floor so you can find one you like. The waiters all speak perfect english and will help you with a name if you ask. For a small tip ($2-3) they will be VERY efficient at finding the girl you ask for. The girls will sit with you and talk, and they will often want to order a drink. The drink charge is $13, a bit steep, but it is for their time and that is how they get paid (they get a bracelet for each drink). If you can, order a pitcher, its cheaper. The manager will come over and ask if you want some private time with the girl. Most of the girls (99%) will be available for sex in an upstairs room for about $100 an hour. Tip the manager too. The girl also will expect a tip (I tipped 40 and they always seemed happy with that). You can negotiate shorter times also (15 minutes even). Also, lap dances are available for about $10 for 10 minutes. You can touch anywhere you want, it is private, and often the girl will do extra for more money ($40 hand, $60 oral). One I met would not allow sex but rocked my world with 2 lap dances!!

The girls range from 5-9. They are young, most speak some english. They are willing and have a good attitude. They enjoy oral from you!!! I guess they don't get that too often. Kissing is also allowed by most.

I took one girl to my hotel the second night, for the entire night (1 am on) The charge from Juniors was $600 (for about 6 hours). The girl and I went to a bar, dancing, for a long walk on the beach, and spent 3 hours in bed doing everything imaginable. It was well with the price. Her name was Liliana, and she was at least a 9!

Chica's Girls:
Much like Juniors, $10 cover, Waiters not as cool, girls less attractive. Very nice back room, though, no problem getting what you want. Did not go beyond lap dance there, though because selection was poor.

Q*eros:

Good location, easy to find, very clean. Girls are nice looking but still not as good as Juniors. Less accomidating in finding you the girl you request, always trying to substitute someone else (I HATE THAT!!) However, very willing to find you girls ahead of time (I emailed) and 2 girl shows are very easy to find. Two ladies came with me to my hotel for 2 hours and were very fun!!

I recommend Juniors for anyone in Puerto Vallarta. That's really all you need. The other places are not quite the same (kind of like Hertz...not exactly).

[Fore10]

This is my first post. I am headed to PV Jan 4 to 11. Which of the places people have talked about it the best strip joint? One to see pretty women naked and have a great lap dance? Not as interested in the back room action (wives will be with us) Second, heard of anyplace where you could pay to watch a couple (man/women) have sex? Maybe join in or just watch them fuck? Thanks!

[Eltib]

Yes, that's the place I'm talking about. But the price is closer to $60 for a half hour at best at Extravaganza. You may have visited Las Alansas. It's across the street from Extravaganza and El Cadillac. Don't tell me about the hurricane. I was there when it hit. I'm not to impressed being charged like I'm in Vegas for a 3rd world city. Word I've read that local officials are cracking down on ISPs that have access to porno sites, for it promotes prostitution. So what's next? They'll probably close the sex trade there next. Anyway I've been to Pattaya Thailand now, and I'll probably never visit deep inside Mexico again, other than maybe Ensenada on a weekend excursion.

[Bifford]

The beachfront in PV suffered damage in a hurricane this fall, but reports say they have recovered and rebuilt quickly. I'll be there in March.

I'm the cheapest of the cheapskates, so I'll be reporting on the compound in Zona Rosa. That's the one on the dusty road that turns off the main highway by the bullfight ring. There are 3 or 4 loud open-air bars, Spanish helps a lot, the clientele are working class, it doesn't get going until 11 PM, and it is dirty and not for most Americans. I'm curious if this is the place "eltib" below is calling the local Boy's town.

Anyway, last year the girls averaged about a 5, with an occasional 7. There might be 5 to 10 girls available in each bar. For the first time in many years there, a girl gave me bad attitude. Usually they are nice, and you don't have to buy them a drink, though it's a good way to greet and practice your Spanish first. The "rooms" are right next to the bar, with very basic shower and bed, and the music, uh, floats right into the room. Usually this is where the girl lives full time. Prices have been inching up from $30US, and I expect $40US to be the minimum this year. Bring a condom and a sense of adventure. The cab ride shouldn't be more than $5US from town.

Now if anybody is interested in REALLY CHEAP, post a reply and I'll direct you to the pleasant heavyset mamas behind Av. Constitución.

[WCP]

Just got back from PV. There were three of us and ended up going different directions several times so we had some different experiences.

We did not try any outcall so I have nothing to say about that.

All prices in US dollar and I am not much of a haggler so you may be able to do better. I also do not speak much Spanish. Drink prices were $3 for water for me and $14 for the girls, I very seldom buy a drink for a girl.

Juniors and Candy’s are the same owner and some of the same girls. Candy’s is up by the marina and is fairly new therefor nicer. The night I went to Juniors I arrived about 1 Am and new girls were showing up from Candies (they rotate depending on how the night is going). The girls will not come and talk to you unless you signal to them or ask the manager to have them come over, I think this is a rule. They will seat you where you want to be seated but don't expect to just walk in and sit down.

Juniors was $175 for an hour and the room upstairs (the room was clean with open air venting). I tipped the guy I was dealing with $20. I chose a slender young girl with un-natural breasts that were very well proportioned. She would be a 9 in most men’s books. She was the hottest in the crowd (about 12 girls), a couple were just below her but most would be in the 5-7 range.

Candy’s wanted $175 for a half-hour and $225 for and hour. They do not have any on site rooms so you have to take them back to your room (which was not an option for me) or take them to Motel Los Angeles. The motel is $30 and the cab to and from another $10. I did recognize some girls in here that were in Juniors but the quality over all was much higher. The 9 I had at Juniors was there and I thought there was one better looking than her (sexier actually) and two right with her. This was too pricey so I moved on.

Hysteria is up by the north hotel district about four blocks off HWY 200. As soon as I walked in the door a girl in her late 20's jumped on me (about a 7), I must have looked like a gringo sucker. Again you were seated and asked if I wanted a drink and if I wanted to buy the girl a drink. There were several other girls in there but I can't tell you much about them because the girl that jumped me knew exactly which buttons to push, pull and twist. I was out of there with her in about 15 minutes. Prices $175 for two hours, no facilities on site so you must take them to your hotel or Motel Los Angeles. I chose the motel for $30 an paid another $6 for the cab ride. Have exact or close to exact change for the guy at the motel, He will claim not to have the correct change and try to get what he can out of you if the girl lets him and this one was. She asked for a tip at the end of the two hours, she was worth it so I gave her another $20.

Bay Watch girls is the same owner as Hysteria but is trying a higher scale version. Don't bother, I was there almost 15 min and not even a waiter came over. There was no one dancing and where the girls were sitting you could not see them where they sat me.

Q'roes has been around for awhile and looks to be around for another year. The pricing and run down is the same as Hysteria but the girl is $200 for two hours and the cab fare is a little more because it is further away from the motel. There were several girls in here that ranged from 6-8 and there were about four above that. I hooked up with a sexy Colombian (there were two there) that was definitely in the above that category. Unlike the Hysteria girl she would not let the motel guy try the change scheme and did not ask for a tip even though she disserved it. The manager was very friendly and spoke good English.

My buddies used Hotel Alamo several times and brought the girls back to our hotel, this is why I could not bring mine back there. The going price seems to be $80 but the over head and headache they experienced we figured averaged about $150 per girl. They actually had a taxi driver causing a seen asking for $50 to bring them to the hotel, they paid it to get him to shut up. Always agree on a taxi price before getting in the taxi when in Mexico. Then they had to register them at the security office of the hotel. They always ended up tipping the girls about $50 each and a couple times weren’t sure of their age. My understanding of how Hotel Alamo works is you go there and tell the madam what you are looking for. She then calls the girls and they show up about 5-15 min later. If you don't like them the process starts over again and again until your satisfied. To much BS for me, I'll pay a little more and not have the headaches.

For those of you looking for the free stuff, it’s there. For a couple nights I talked to a shot girl at one of the bars and then set up a date on her day off. Most will go out with you if you’re a descent person and treat them like a human. We met and had a good conversation over dinner, I love hearing about other cultures and their views of the world. We then went and listened to some Mexican rock, did some dancing and then on to her place. The last night there while waiting for my buddies getting ready for dinner I went to the hotel bar and picked up a hot older lady (41). I dumped my buddies (they understood) and took her to dinner, again another great conversation. We then went walking and window shopping, this lady was so hot a taxi driver ran into another while they were both watching her walk down the street. Later we went dancing and then to her hotel.

My nights were all packed along with my days. This is a great area to visit with a lot to do. We fished, went diving and tried the canopy tour. The locals are good people and enjoy your presence so be kind back and you will have a great time.

It’s long but hopefully useful.

[Eltib]

Originally posted by iguana
Went to the local Boy's town. Very very sleezy. Don't even waste your time unless you speak Spanish. The few girls that looked good had no English and they all seemed uninterested. If fact they all looked to be dispirited and apathetic. There's four houses and they all have a stage and music as if there would be a show but there was no show at any of them. All had lousy atmosphere - music so loud you can't talk and lights so dim you can't see the girls or even count out change for a beer. Won't never ever go there again.

I'm going October 19, and I'll tell you this. After this past May Mexico is history, and I'm hitting Thailand the following month. A few years ago, you could get cheap pussy here, but they think Americanos are stupid. And that we'll pay $60.00 for half hour. Well they are wrong. I know what clubs you're talking about.

Cadillac
Extravaganza(formerly Hawaii Club)
Mi Tren
Las Alansas

I'll post my May story after I get back from this trip in October. I had a fun time, but I don't like bar owners thinking they can charge me $200.00 for 2 hours with girl in my hotel. Heck I can get 4 nights LT in Thailand for that price.

[wsg36wsg]

It's a damn shame how all the posts have dried up ever since the new, strict policy on registering came into play.

Anybody know a good place for PV info that has more frequent posts than once a quarter? You know, like it was here about a year ago?

I've posted several times in the past here but I see everyone stopped posting about the same time I did. I'll be headed back down to PV in a couple of months and I'd really like to find out the latest info. Thanks!

[iguana]

Was in PV from June 18 to 25. Things were lively enough near town but got dead in a hurry away from the tourist center. I dunno if it's the recession or just the normal patterns but we saw a lot of empty looking hotels and restaurants. Went to Quero's - it was slow but there was some good talent, enjoyed the show. Had a dance and drinks with an exquisite seniorita who's name I forget but she was classy and beautiful and sweet and oh so friendly. What a delightful cultural shock for a lilly white gringo who's used to being treated like a disease by arrogant American women. No wonder the Caucatian race is dying out.

On other nights I explored Chica's (across the street from Quero's) and Junior's which I'd read good things about but things were so slow at these places there wasn't even a show. Maybe Junior's rocks at times but when I was there there was only one other customer and about six bouncer goons standing in formation around the perimeter of the joint with nothing to do except glare at me. Very uncomfortable. I felt like I'd been arrested so I didn't stay but ten minutes. Junior's if you're reading this how can you not know you're driving people away? Saw a few beauties sitting around but was uncomfortable in that prison camp environment and there was no show. And this was a Friday night.

Went to the local Boy's town. Very very sleezy. Don't even waste your time unless you speak Spanish. The few girls that looked good had no English and they all seemed uninterested. If fact they all looked to be dispirited and apathetic. There's four houses and they all have a stage and music as if there would be a show but there was no show at any of them. All had lousy atmosphere - music so loud you can't talk and lights so dim you can't see the girls or even count out change for a beer. Won't never ever go there again.

But it wasn't all bad. Returned to Quero's. Again it was dead slow. There was dancing on stage only occationally and I was getting bored. Had a drink with a beautiful chica but she wanted over $600 US for a trip to the room. No way. Then I was approached by a lovely Mexican girl who called herself Laura. She's quite nice, maybe and 8 to look at but she gets a 10 for attitude and friendliness and has a dazzling smile. She came back to the room with me and it was great. Soaped each other up in the shower, smoked a little weed to get in the mood and got lubed up for a some massage action. I had planned to use a raincoat for oral but got carried away and went BB. Hope I didn't catch a bug but it sure was fabulous. Laura acted like she meant it. She did stuff I love like eating my nuts which American girls never do. I paid 2500 pesos (about $260 US) to Quero's for Laura. Yes, one can beat the price I was in the mood and the time was right and Laura was quality. Was told that the club gets $1000 pesos and the talent gets the rest. Next time I'll try to arrange it without the club.

If you're into girl watching go downtown around sundown. Babes like you can't believe. Armies of them - both tourists and locals but lots and lots of American college babes. They dress to kill and obviously want to fuck their brains out. I'm sure lots of guys get lucky in the discos. I never had a talent for that -sob- but if you do you'll be a happy man in Puerto Vallarta.

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