Puerto Vallarta

[Flawless Zeal]

I have had some txt communication with Amber. She seems legitimate enough to me. However, after reading some on this forum, I have some apprehensions.

Link:https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...1/?list=pmqkcl.

Seems like you are overthinking this. Why are you so apprehensive, is she asking for a deposit (obviously never pay that)? To be blunt, usually fake profiles use more flattering pics (looks overweight to me, but maybe that body type is your preference). Looks way overpriced as well -- in that price range I would much rather look at PV Playmates. The two mileroticos girls I saw using the "verified photos" filter matched their photos (not that that is a guarantee).

[Leroy1969]

I have had some txt communication with Amber. She seems legitimate enough to me. However, after reading some on this forum, I have some apprehensions.

Link:https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...1/?list=pmqkcl.

I would like to know what y'all think. My naive ass is just kinda thinking, I should just go out there, and take what for the team. However, I am probably thinking with the wrong head.

Here is our communication. Some information has been edited to protect the privacy of the guilty:

Me: Hello miss Amber, I hope this message finds you doing well. This is Leroy, I messaged you back in January. I am a white American man in my early 40's. I will be in Puerto Vallarta in February. I would like to spend some time with you. The 28th and / or the 29th are the best days for me. I have some apprehensions. At home, when I see an escort. We have a local review board. It helps to protect both the customer and the escort. When I travel Europe, there are international review boards. I can't find anything like that for Puerto Vallarta. How do I know you are real? I see you advertise across multiple websites. However, I have to be careful. I know there are people who would try to rob, scam, or otherwise take advantage of me.

Is there a way for me to feel more comfortable about setting up a date with you? Do you have some sort of a reference?

Amber: Hola Leroy.

I can understand what you're saying. And believe me I'm more frightened than you are hahaha.

Also I think in the states they have a verification process of clients and so on and here there's nothing like that. So I have to just go by feeling if the person is safe or not safe.

However certainly if people were getting robbed here in Puerto Vallarta by an escort or a companion it would be front page news all across Google.

I have several gentlemen that I've seen who wrote nice testimonials about me.

Here's a few of them that I've saved.

Amber was in great form this weekend. I've seen her 3 times and she just gets prettier and better with age. Thanks for taking care of me this weekend. Joe- Marriott. Puerto Vallarta.

Great time with. Amber. She's blossomed from a freckled face teen to a lovely young lady! Eric- Bahia Banderas.

Amber WOW you were Excellent! My favorite part was kissing your soft, sexy skin Take care beautiful it was really great meeting you! You made my trip very memorable!- Jack- Villa Premiere- PV.

Everything about Amber is Beautiful. Her light skin. Awesome personality. Elegant. Relaxed. She was awesome! So much more about her than just sex. She was the road less travelled and it made all the difference- Walter La Isla Fiesta Inn.

Amber had a great time with you! One of the best nights of my life. I cannot erase the smile on my face. You are a very special young woman and I had a Rocking time! - Ronald- Pedegral. Vallarta.

By the way Amber, thank you for a great cardio work out! You are awesome! I want more some day soon! WOW Derrick- Sheraton- PV.

Amber is gorgeous! So beautiful and so fresh. I wished I would have booked her for two hours instead of just one. A very pleasing experience- Thank you! Aaron- Marriott. PV.

Amber was a pleasant experience. English is good. Very Pretty. Thank you!- Scott- Golden Crown Paradise- PV.

Amber is beautiful and has a great body. Photos were definitely accurate. Her energy and willingness were good. All in all, a very sweet girl. Very pretty girl. Donald- Old Town- Puerto Vallarta.

'll be thinking of Amber. She was so amazing. I can't get over how beautiful she has become. Absolutely my all time favorite girl ever. Tony- Marina Vallarta.

Hope all well with you. After coming back, I got very busy making money for my next trip.

Last 15 days, I just couldn't take Amber out of my mind, her little cute face always stays in front of my eyes. I like her very much. She is so adorable young. She was good to me. I had Amber three times in 7 days, seems not enough.

I simply can't get enough of her. My next trip, at that time, if Amber is still with you, I will enjoy her at least three days. Thanks for everything. Sam- Grand Mayan- Nuevo Vallarta.

We liked both Kimmy and Amber. Especially me, I really like Amber too much! Amber is very beautiful. Her face makes me melt. My amigo loved Kimmy. Stan and Sal. Dreams- Puerto Vallarta.

I was very pleased to have made Miss Amber's acquaintance this evening.

Amber is a delightful, intelligent and beautiful young woman with whom I hope to share further adventures in the near future. Cabo would be great! Please put Miss Amber's name next to my happy face for future reference. Miss Mely, please accept my thanks for your usual high standards and excellent service. I will continue to share my positive PV Playmates experiences with my friends who are fortunate enough to travel to Mexico. Take good care, my friend.

Peace, Kurt- Westin- Puerto Vallarta.

Amber is great! So sweet and naturally beautiful. Thanks again! Carl- Marriott Puerto Vallarta.

Amber, You aren't just one of the best I ever had you are the best lover Ever. Hope you will give me another chance some day. You will motivate me to make sure next time you will want to stay with me. God bless you Amber. I will never forget you. - Greg- Hotel Barcelo- Mismaloya.

And I only advertise on two web pages but all the rest are spam bots. They copy your information photos and all of that stuff and then post it somewhere else like hot, secret hostess, babe, all of those I've never even heard of the people contact me and say hey I saw your advertisement on gemini! And I'm like what? LOL I've never even heard of those other sites.

I have advertisement on euro girl and escort directory. That's it. Everything else is some copy and paste robot.

Wednesday the 28th is good for me. Usually before 8:00 pm Is best for me. I forgot you might have told me where will you be staying?

Me: Zona Romántica.

Gracias where in zona romantica? We call it Old Town here.

I also told her the name of the Hotel I am staying at. Obviously, I have not shared my legal name with her.

[Apprenticed]

I recommend an airbnb with no security.

How did you know if the Airbnb that you are interested in has no security?

[Apprenticed]

I think the PV local girls with their silky flawing hair and bronze colored skin are the most attractive in Mexico.

I would happily meet local girls if I knew where to find them. Any ideas?

[Zenduka1]

Seeking is a joke.

King George, you are right it is odd in that it looks like a German beer pub than a brothel. The women are average too.

Aquah has the best women in caliber of the best you kind find in HK.

Funny 11 PM is the maximum I stay out in Tijuana. I do most of the activity between 5 PM and 10 PM. You say PV does barely starts at 10 PM. That is different.

I think the PV local girls with their silky flawing hair and bronze colored skin are the most attractive in Mexico.

[Flawless Zeal]

Was in PV for a week. Stayed at Fiesta Inn. Set up there is perfect for meeting girls outside in what is an outdoor mall, then take them up an elevator straight to your floor, no lobby or front desk person in sight. I don't think I would even want to be in a hotel where a random person could walk straight to my room door without any security, particularly when people try that "cartel" scare (not that I encountered it), so I'd rather not give out my room number at all.

I mentioned a few posts ago how I tried Seeking. The going rate was 4000-5000/ HR. At those rates I figured I could just go to a club, or for less, try Mileroticos. There were a couple girls on Seeking I would have paid upwards of 5 k for, but as I said, they must have been all one agency and blocked me for "shopping around" before I could get the direct contact info of the ones I wanted to see most.

Went to Paradiso one night and spent way too much money, but did have fun. They run a good game where they immediately invite you to sit down at a specific seat, ask you for a drink order, and then have 2 girls sit down with you, flirt for a bit and then ask if you would like to buy them both a drink. What's wearing is that it's a constant game of trying to make you feel cheap if you dare to ask which drink they were ordering, or the price on the menu, decline buying one a drink, or god forbid, decline buying both a drink. Once you buy them a drink, it's not long before they talk up the "champagne / VIP room" (including the manager as well at one point) where they use a bunch of vague descriptions what it entails. Later I confirmed with a girl that there is nothing extra that goes on there, just more privacy, which damn sure isn't worth the 4-5 k or whatever they were charging. I settled on a dime of a spinner, took here upstairs, she shared a joint with me, then we went at it and were having a great time and good connection to the point that when the knock on the door came she ran out and asked them to wait just a few minutes, but of course the guy comes in and makes me confirm myself that I want another full half-hour. When it was time to pay the bill, that led to an argument when on top of an already large bill they billed two separate half-hours as if it were two different girls and two different rooms. I had read here that you will unquestionably lose any battle if cops are called, meanwhile they are holding onto my credit card, so eventually they offer me a bottle of liquor and I tell them they lost a repeat customer (I genuinely would have come back if not for all that).

Another night I tried the trio of King George, Aquah, and Taboo. King George had a somewhat odd setup where it is like a bar / pub and a guy brings girls by to either dance or take up stairs. None of the girls were doing it for me. I bought a couple dances because why not, and then left to Aquah. In classic fashion, I saw what looked like an 8. 5 go upstairs with someone just after I got there, and then saw no one else close to that, so after a while left to try Taboo around the corner. Taboo was a bit strange in that I was literally the only guy there. Around 7-8 girls sat against the wall, while one at a time would give me a dance. Eventually I settled on one I liked and asked to take her upstairs when she apologized and told me she "didn't offer that service". She had told me earlier that she used to be a (real) dancer and only came to that club 1-2 x per week starting a month ago, but I didn't even know that some girls only danced. That was a real mood killer if there ever was one. I left and went back to Aquah and thankfully it was busier than it was before. After a short while I saw a firecracker across the room and a guy offered to go get her for me. Damn, I don't think I have ever met anyone who simply exuded sexual energy like her. I took her upstairs after one dance, had a great time, but as 30 minutes was approaching, realized I had had too much tequila by that point. She was determined as hell though and I'm not sure many other women would have been able to finish the job, but she did and I was incredibly grateful.

Bottomline learned from going to PV clubs: 10 pm is the absolute earliest you should go if you want a decent selection. Preferably after 12 am, and one dancer told me the peak for girls is actually 3 am! I'm traveling alone, so I simply don't have enough to do to keep me occupied and awake until 3 am, but next time I will definitely go as late as reasonably possible, and as well be a bit more assertive turning down girls that the guy tries to bring to me at the beginning unless I am very attracted to them. I could do with advice on how to best navigate clubs and avoid overspending without coming across as a cheap asshole, if anyone has any advice or links to good posts / reports.

One afternoon I spent a while wandering the marina for massage parlors. The ones I saw, the girls were not particularly attractive, one did not have an "other" menu, even after taking me to the private massage room and handing it to me, and the prices were far from anything special. I only saw one girl that was very attracted to, but she had just started a lunch break outside the store, and I did not have the patience to hang around, wait for her to come back, and risk her being a "bait and switch" front desk person that others have mentioned, rather than a masseuse. After a while I realized I would much rather someone come by my private hotel room with my nice king bed and shower.

I tried two mileroticos girls and both were good experiences. Obviously you have to accept it's never going to be an early-twenties model face that they are hiding behind the blurred / redacted photo, but both girls were attractive, sweet, with good bodies, 2500 and 3000 pesos. One sent an expiring face photo before, one refused, both roughly equal in attractiveness. The second was a great ego boost as when she was getting dressed she told me (unprompted) that she never cums during her sessions, and was impressed (before the cynics come, she never asked for a tip, knew I was leaving the next day, and had not been an over-the-top complimenter leading up to that).

I messaged PVPlaymates early on and their prices were definitely on the higher end. They seem to have more girls who say they speak English, similar to many on Seeking -- I think that is the main benefit of using Seeking or PVP over Mileroticos (I speak enough broken Spanish to just get by, but no conversations much beyond small talk). I found one of the PVP girls on seeking and her price was a bit lower there (still high, 5 k), but another I found on Mundosexanuncio wouldn't budge from the original agency price (4. 5 k). In retrospect, she may have been worth it, but that was early on.

[Vendelo]

Visited the marina yesterday. Walked all around and was offered massages by at least 5-6 places. Most were chubby / average looking women (5-6's). Walked into Vallarta massage. Great by 4 women who were all 4 or 5's. One was a cute, thin with a nice rear. $140 us for BJ, which was decent. But the vibe was very quiet and awkward.

On my way back to my car, passed by Paradise or perfect spa (I forget the name to be honest) and say a very attractive masseuse with glasses and a great body. Name was Claudia. Was quoted 160 us for naked HJ (which is high in my opinion). She was great tho and would go back for another shot.

The other places were all not worth it in relation to talent.

Wow. Those prices are high. Obviously bc PV is a tourist destination. For the amt I get 3 HR FS in my hotel in Guadalajara / Mexico City. And the girls are 9+ between 18 & 25.

[RobinHood757]

Correct, I did not catch that about PMs. My apologies. I will read closer.

Hobbyists:

Looking for sites of interest in PV for Fun / FS and not breaking the bank.

Apparently lots of street walkers / spa greeters on certain streets.

Lots of results in Google searches for FS Clubs but on the web sites many reviews are before covid.

I will be close to the Marina. 15 min taxi to downtown. Zona Romantica.

Is there really a red light district? Zona Roja!

Found positive info on Queros, negative on Aquash, Neutral on Taboo = any thoughts on other strip / hookup bars or massage spas.

For massage in my area, it looks like Serenity.

Thank you.

[EnergyStar15]

Visited the marina yesterday. Walked all around and was offered massages by at least 5-6 places. Most were chubby / average looking women (5-6's). Walked into Vallarta massage. Great by 4 women who were all 4 or 5's. One was a cute, thin with a nice rear. $140 us for BJ, which was decent. But the vibe was very quiet and awkward.

On my way back to my car, passed by Paradise or perfect spa (I forget the name to be honest) and say a very attractive masseuse with glasses and a great body. Name was Claudia. Was quoted 160 us for naked HJ (which is high in my opinion). She was great tho and would go back for another shot.

The other places were all not worth it in relation to talent.

[RobinHood757]

Heading to PV on the 15th. Looking for massage ideas. Searching only brought up Massage Vallarta and Serenity.

Serenity sounds promising. I'll be there 5 days within walk to the Marina. To Vallarta.

Any suggestions PM me.

Also curious about Mileroticos. Only see references not contacts. Even the web site doesn't list PV.

Thank you.

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[EnergyStar15]

Anyone have any info on Nuevo Vallarta near the Riu hotels? Looking more for erotic massages in the day time.

[Flawless Zeal]

Which agency? I was messaging a few girls with similar openers, two sent the exact same response with a meme accusing me of "trolling", then when I was messaging one on whatsapp and said her asking was a bit high, suddenly I was blocked by 5 girls at the *exact* same time. There were earlier similar responses that had me wondering if I was dealing with an agency rather than different girls. What sucks is that there was one girl in particular I was willing to pay more for but hadn't got her direct contact yet. Their asking was 4500-6000 pesos / HR for anyone curious.

In a similar vein, I contacted PVPlaymates, they were mostly 4000-4500/ HR as well. Found one of them in an individual listing on mundosexanuncio to see if I could get a better deal, but she said the same price was the lowest she could go and recommended others at the same agency for lower, so possibly that was the agency on the other end as well.

Can anyone help me out? Like I said above I was blocked by the agency for negotiating with a few girls at the same time before I could get the direct contact for the two girls I wanted to book most -- "Trophy Wife Vallarta" and "SweetPetiteTreat". If anyone has or could get their direct contact info and PM it to me today (I leave tomorrow), I promise I will make it up to you. I'm still in email and whatsapp contact with two of the girls who "blocked" me on Seeking and both had no idea about blocking me, so I'm sure it is just an agency distributing their contact info.

[Woorace]

Can the original poster or someone else give a bit better description or name of the MP described in second paragraph? The one with Tanya. I went there but could not find it. Thank you.

There are several places in the Marina that offer F / S. I'd walk around and see if you can find a girl you like, and once they take you in, ask for the Special Menu. You will spend aeound $150, and depending on the girl, you may get more than standard CBJ and covered F / S. Don't be afraid to ask if she does BBBJ, or DFK, 69, etc. Don't be afraid to walk to the next place, there are pleny of them.

[Vitrea]

Can the original poster or someone else give a bit better description or name of the MP described in second paragraph? The one with Tanya. I went there but could not find it. Thank you.

Went to massage parlor scene in the Marina during different times 11 AM and 3 PM on two different days last week.

Went to Vallarta Massage which is at the other end and was disappointed with the quality of the girls in the morning at 11 AM, started walking to towards the marina and there are massage parlors on either sides spanning different types of stores. Took a right turn and the first 3 or 4 massage parlors are genuine massage parlors and do not offer any service.

The ones after you make a slight left turn and a right offer full services. There was some young girls marketing and I went in and asked for the menu. After agreeing for $2500 for FS I was asked to get undressed and then a chica (Tanya) (atleast a 8 or a 9) walked me into the room. After some massage, she started fore play, slipped the rubber and gave a CBJ and after a few minutes she rode me and we did multiple positions until I popped. One of the most memorable experiences with any chica anywhere. As I was walking out, I saw two other beautiful girls (at-least 9). You cannot go wrong at this place.

The next day, since I heard so much about Vallarta Massage in the forums from different posts mostly 1. 5 years before, I decided to give it one more shot. As I walked I saw atleast a half dozen girls and all looked like they were in their 30's or mid thirties. They seem to be on the heavier side, or short and (5 or 6 rating) by my standards. Disappointed with the quality of the girls again, I started walking.

I was wanted to try the other parlors on the left side since they got mentioned in the previous posts and also was trying to see if I could pick up some phone numbers for later that night. Went directly to to Serenity Spa and found two chicas (rating 7 and 9). Immediately took one (Ara) and she gave me a decent massage and FS. Privacy is a little problem if you make noises or have rough sex. Nevertheless had a great time and got the number. Unfortunately, I could not find the time to call her that night as I was exhausted. This is the place for a good massage and full service experience.

Extremely disappointed for wasting valuable time going to Vallarta Massage. I would strongly recommend not going to Vallarta Massage and try the other places instead. These places I went to are very clean as well.

I also heard from the local taxi drivers that the Massage Parlors on the main road next (Dreams Resorts), I. E. , Hotel Canto Del Sol (4-5 minutes tax ride south of marina) have good Chicas (rating 7. 5 to 9. 5).

Happy Mongering.

[Flawless Zeal]

I've successfully used Seeking for indies and an agency. Your hotel may require the girl's ID. I recommend an airbnb with no security.

My airbnb: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/4957068...ButgW1WI%2BqMT.

Which agency? I was messaging a few girls with similar openers, two sent the exact same response with a meme accusing me of "trolling", then when I was messaging one on whatsapp and said her asking was a bit high, suddenly I was blocked by 5 girls at the *exact* same time. There were earlier similar responses that had me wondering if I was dealing with an agency rather than different girls. What sucks is that there was one girl in particular I was willing to pay more for but hadn't got her direct contact yet. Their asking was 4500-6000 pesos / HR for anyone curious.

In a similar vein, I contacted PVPlaymates, they were mostly 4000-4500/ HR as well. Found one of them in an individual listing on mundosexanuncio to see if I could get a better deal, but she said the same price was the lowest she could go and recommended others at the same agency for lower, so possibly that was the agency on the other end as well.