Queretaro City

[Gagoo]

As promised, I have attached some photos that I took today on my way home from Celaya.

Sorry that I did not remember the names, but the two bars that I previously referred to are the "El Establo" and "Taboo. " I have had a good, cheap time at both. I. e. Less than $100 USD. Some very sweet, new-to-the-game girls.

Another bar that just replaced the previously shot-up and closed "La Cabana" is called Las Malcriadas (The Spoiled Girls) - probably worth a shot and should be safe for the foreseeable future. Could hit on the way back to Queretaro. It is on the same (south) side of the freeway. Right on the Querertaro / Guanajuato stateline. If you decide to go in a taxi you will be fine. Uber also works well.

Here are some links (could not find anything for Las Malcriadas).

https://www.facebook.com/Establo-Men...3641981259011/

https://www.facebook.com/tabumensclub/

Have fun and stay safe.

I made a report about this place a few years ago. I think it is under 'other places'. It did have good looking women, and nobody minded me being a gringo there. I had spent quite a bit of money to buy drinks for me and a girl and take her to the curtain area. The time in the curtain area is strictly controlled. I ended up with a little BBBJ, and that was about it. I told her I really wish me and her could have fucked. Then she told me we could have gone upstairs in a room. Well, I thought to myself why the fuck didn't she tell me that. I think she said the price for going to the room upstairs and have sex is 1,400. But, I had already ran low on cash. As far as that other club, Black Horse (English). They had some good looking girls there, but they are those kind of girls that will play with there phones and not do much. I ended up with a girl that speaks English. I spend my time and money on her and she said she doesn't have sex with guys. I got very damn unlucky. There happens to be a hotel next door that you fuck the girls at. I can't remember the price. But, I somehow ended with a girl that won't fuck. That place also had a few foreign girls in there. I might stop by that area within the next week or so. I plan to see several of the cities in the area. I happened to rent a car for awhile.

[ElGabacho]

I have not been to this place since it was La Cabaña and much before it was shot-up last year. Please note that at the time of this writing the MXN to USD exchange rate is 18.8 to 1.

Well, as I referenced this place in an earlier post, I felt that I had the obligation to visit and provide a review so I went last night.

First of all, do not be worried when you have to pass through three gates. There cameras are registering the comings and goings. The gates are operated by people inside what can best be described as concrete pill boxes. At the last gate, you will need to pay $30 pesos to park. The parking was fairly well lit and seemed safe. Just know that in Mexico it is usually the same guards that purportedly there to protect you and your property, but in actuality are that are ones ripping you off or making it possible. In short, the Las Malcriadas is a compound. Whether it is truly safe against men with truly bad intentions is debatable.

Now, as you are all pretty aware, in Mexico almost all of the "security measures" (guards, police, or army presence) is just a facade for general public consumption as you are not really protected; nor, does anyone care about anyone else. Just be smart, choose seating carefully, and don't get drunk.

The bar. Las Malcriadas:

Bar name means: The spoiled girls.

Cover: None, nor is there a minimum consumption.

Drinks:

Bottled water: $50 pesos.

Bucket with ice and 6 full size beers. Called a "cubeta": $220 pesos.

Girls beer smaller. Called "ampolletas" - $90 pesos.

Girls whiskey - $180 pesos.

Rooms on site:

Only saw / went into curtained booths. Privacy is OK, especially towards either end of the booth area that actually is called the warehouse in Spanish. I mention this point, because booths are not my thing.

The girls:

Approx. 70 girls. Some stunning, some not so stunning and older. Overall 6.5-7 with a good amount of 8's and 9's thrown in. Definitely something for everyone's taste.

Girls do not get a salary. They are freelancers who can come and go as they wish. They only make money for their services, and given their employment status there is no defined structured rate set by management. More or less here it is:

Dance at the table: $100 pesos.

To give you an idea of what this "table dance" can be, I will relate something I saw not 10 feet in front of me.

Two seated guys and a girl. The girl was standing between both of them. Basically a sandwich. They basically were doing everything possible without actually fucking. One would be sucking her tit**es, while the other alternated between fingering her pussy and a** and eating her out. This went on for a good amount of time and nobody cared. What was most interesting was that after about 10 - 15 minutes of this table dance, the girl laid back on the table and began convulsing in what appeared to be powerful and multiple orgasms. One of the men actually had to put his hand over her mouth. In this case, the girl was pretty heinous. I wouldn't fuck her with another dick even if she paid me, but there you go. Finally, I asked on of the guys how much they spent on that scene. Answer: $200 pesos.

Booth rental: $100 - $200 pesos depending on time - $200 will get you 20 - 30 minutes depending on the girl and how busy the bar is.

BJ in private booth: $350-$500 pesos.

FS (inluding BJ): $500-$700 pesos.

Condoms: $100 So take your own. However, should you forget, the condoms that they give you are Trojan.

Summary:

A definite must see while in Queretaro. Not worth making a special trip though.

This a Mexican bar. I. E. A fun and cheap bar, where the girls do not cop attitudes and are up for anything. They are not accustomed to Gringos, however, they do get the occasional Gringo or Japanese guy in there. Just like anywhere else, you will be treated as you treat others. Spanish is a huge plus (almost necessary). The girls and waiters will treat you and fairly and very well.

Total damage for two-girl on-premise evening: less than $100 USD.

Side note:

This place is one of those middling' bars that I love.

As an example, I met a beautiful, sexy spinner studying her MBA in finance. And to the naysayers. I have more than 20 years experience, speak Spanish fluently and yes, I asked probing questions and verified that she had working knowledge. Additionally, her prior work history was verified by 4 separate people (waiters and other girls) during different times. In effect, just the typical, single-mom, hard luck case that got pushed over the economic edge with some unplanned expenses. It was her second night.

Quick aside: One of my mongering hacks is to check out their shoes. I always look for the non-puta heels (tacones). It almost always a dead giveway.

Her first night ended early and horribly. Balling her head off in the bathroom. Well, on the second night (last night) she "womaned" and met me. Long story short. Did not do the deed a the bar. We exchanged Whatsapp and I will be meeting her later tonight for some drinks and dinner. If all goes well, I will have another little FWB that costs me less than $100 USD per month -pretty much pussy on tap. Then, as I get tired / bored with them or they with me, I just move them out of the rotation. Please note that I do not lead these women on. They all understand that "we" will never be anything more than fuck buddies where they get a little help "un apoyo. " So be good to them and they will be very good to you.

Take care and be safe!

[ElGabacho]

As promised, I have attached some photos that I took today on my way home from Celaya.

Sorry that I did not remember the names, but the two bars that I previously referred to are the "El Establo" and "Taboo. " I have had a good, cheap time at both. I. e. Less than $100 USD. Some very sweet, new-to-the-game girls.

Another bar that just replaced the previously shot-up and closed "La Cabana" is called Las Malcriadas (The Spoiled Girls) - probably worth a shot and should be safe for the foreseeable future. Could hit on the way back to Queretaro. It is on the same (south) side of the freeway. Right on the Querertaro / Guanajuato stateline. If you decide to go in a taxi you will be fine. Uber also works well.

Here are some links (could not find anything for Las Malcriadas).

https://www.facebook.com/Establo-Men...3641981259011/

https://www.facebook.com/tabumensclub/

Have fun and stay safe.

[Seldon69]

Plane landed and would love some advice on where to go? What's open and safe?

[HeadFirst80]

Thank you for the detailed summary. The trip is not final yet but knowing that I don't speak Spanish at all I would stay clear of "very local" place. Just personal preference.

I was wondering if may be some "Twitter" girls might be available or if you have any direct contacts of girls that you can share also. I will not dive too deep at the moment given the amount of time I will be there and uncertainty of my schedule.

At HeadFirst80.

Before I give my advice / opinion, I want to give you a little background:

I have lived in Queretaro for the past four out of my 15 years in Mexico.

I speak Spanish fluently.

I have traveled extensively throughout LATAM. Costa Rica, Guatemala, Colombia, Panama, Argentina, and throughout Mexico.

I don't post if I do not have something new to offer. In this case, I do, so here it goes..

[ElGabacho]

At HeadFirst80.

Before I give my advice / opinion, I want to give you a little background:

I have lived in Queretaro for the past four out of my 15 years in Mexico.

I speak Spanish fluently.

I have traveled extensively throughout LATAM. Costa Rica, Guatemala, Colombia, Panama, Argentina, and throughout Mexico.

I don't post if I do not have something new to offer. In this case, I do, so here it goes.

Queretaro strip clubs:

In my opinion, Queretaro is pretty dead. There are two strip clubs that I have been to: La Yeguita and the Fiesta Charra. Many good looking women and other activities can be arranged, but it will be expensive (I. E. More than $200 USD). To my why of thinking very low value.

Guanajuato strip clubs. Celaya small city close to Queretaro (about 30 - 45 minutes depending on where you are staying):

There are some strip clubs on the free highway "el libre" (left hand side heading towards Celaya from QRO / south side) - I don't remember the names well; maybe, El Caballo Negro?. These are Mexican bars, but you will be treated well. The guys are there for a good time just like you and do not look for trouble or hassle you because you are a "gringo. " Now, if you act like an entitled a**hole, you will have problems, but that is universal.

There are some fuglies, good-looking, and all in between. There are booths on premise with a curtain. Better yet, is to meet a girl (the newbies start in places like this) and set-up something offsite. Many girls come in from Guadalajara, Leon, Aguascalietentes, etc. And get bored during the day. Anyway, you can have a blast and the girls are up for some fun. Total damage for a night should be less than $2000 pesos (about $120 USD right now). God, how I wish the El Corral de Las Chivas was still open. That place was great, but oh well. I guess they didn't pay off the right people.

Please note that I have never had an issue at these places, but a bar called the Cabaa (just as you cross over stateline from Queretaro to Guanajuato) was shot-up about a year ago with some of the girls and patrons being injured / killed. This is not usual, but I would be remiss not to mention it.

When going to any club do the following:

1. Don't get drunk.

2. Negotiate / pay in pesos.

3. Pay for each drink as you get it. No tabs.

4. Do not use credit cards.

5. Dress down and leave the bling home. I will go in old jeans, long-sleeve button down shirt, and work boots.

Escorts:

Forget them. Not worth it in QRO. Most are from out of town and work for agencies. Big time hassle. Many will ask that you get a room in one of the love motels, before she will come over. And never, ever deposit in an OXXO. Sure scam.

Seeking Arrangement:

My personal favorite. Works like a charm. Have met and banged girls the same day. Pay per meets can be as low as $800 MXN. Monthly retainers (arrangements in SA parlance. Arreglos / acuerdos) can be set-up for $150-200/ month. You will need WhatsApp, conversational Spanish, and a decent back story of why you are in Queretaro. But there are many eager and willing ladies.

If you want more information or want someone to show you around when you are down here just shoot me a PM.

Meanwhile, I will get you the exact names of the bars that I mentioned.

Have fun and be safe.

[HeadFirst80]

I might end up being here in Feb or March. This board seems dead. Let me know if there are any recommendations.

[JarvisQ]

So on Saturday I was on an errand that took me an hour out of town on the local bus. On the way back to Queretaro the bus stopped a bunch of times for locals. In one of the small pueblas two very attractive young ladies got on. They were both eights and dressed to the nines, short low and tight, about 20 years old. Luckily for me they took seats across the isle from me so I was able to chat up the one closest to me. They were headed into Queretaro and I wondered where they were going on a Friday afternoon so dressed up. They could've be going to a wedding but those big purses they were toting hinted otherwise. I couldn't tell if they were pros or civilians so I behaved myself in the conversation and ended up getting one name and number.

Later when I called a male voice answered and wanted to know if I was looking for a date. I just told him somebody had asked for information about Jehova's Witnesses. He hung up. I think that reveals a lot about the mongering situation in this town that both those girls had a chance to make a one on one contact avoiding the pimp but didn't pursue it.

[JarvisQ]

I originally posted this over in the Mexico City Escorts forum but the moderator over there deleted it. The mongers in that forum did not like me admitting I double-book escorts because they are so unreliable about keeping appointments.

The mongering scene here in Queretaro is as bad as ever and I do not even try shopping locally any more. Here is what I have done for my last two trips to CDMX. Before leaving Queretaro I do my homework and setup several dates for my one night in town. I schedule them 2-3 hours apart usually. I tell them the hotel where I am staying but girls won't meet in the lobby and I don't know why. I tell the girl that if she is running late she has to text me and not texting means she wants to cancel. I only send a picture of the room key when they say they are on their way. That way I am not stuck waiting on a girl who already knows my room number and I am free to setup a date with the next girl on the list and not have to worry about two showing up. If the girl does arrive then I always text all the other girls to cancel and show them the respect they do not show me. So far I have only had one girl who fooled me to send her my room number then she arrived 3 hours late. All the others have been no more than a hour late.

Mexican escorts are flaky and unreliable in the extreme and when they do show up they are unapologetically late. Double-booking is the only way I know that keeps me from wasting a trip.

[JarvisQ]

As a foreigner working in Queretaro I'll report on the conditions as I've seen them in Queretaro over the last two years. Everyone can see from the lack of traffic in this forum that the mongering scene here in Queretaro seems to be almost dead or possibly driven underground.

The La Yegua brothel is still up and operating at last report, but rumor has it the place isn't very gringo-friendly and seems to me to be a complete rip-off. SWs can be seen along Universidad after dark but the available talent there's nothing to get excited about. The big issue for mongers here's that independent escorts are very hard to locate and so far every one of them I've contacted eventually turns out to be associated with an agency (read pimp).

There are a lot of ads for escorts in Queretaro and over in nearby Celaya appearing on the Spanish locanto.com.mx web site. That site doesn't offer any ability to post a review. Other ads are found on avisoseroticos.com where the deal is the same. No reviews and no feedback. Most of the ads on those sites give you only one picture of the girl or a part of her. Almost all the ads on both sites tend to want all contact to be by voice call. None of them has ever answered any of my phone text messages. I once sent texts to 24 cell phone numbers, ZERO responses. And very few of them will do WhatsApp and those that do usually only tell you to voice call.

There are a few Tapatias (from Guadalajara) here in Queretaro who appear to not be connected to the pimps and they seem to be only the ones who make much use of WhatsApp for texting. I tried a couple of them with disappointing results. I called one who advertised she was 21 years old and completely independent. She might've been independent but she was also 21 going on 30. The bottom line is that if you search for escorts on Twitter what you'll find in Queretaro are several agencies.

There seems to exist a dark undercurrent to the prostitution in Queretaro with a lot of clues pointing to the fact that pimping is alive and well here. If you take time to keep track of the phone numbers on those web sites I mentioned you'll find the names of several girls using the same phone number. Two times I've tried to contact girls via WhatsApp who appeared to be independents but I got a voice response from a male saying to voice call him for more info. I didn't bother. I shy away from pimps.

And just to prove how thin the selection is in QRO I was recently greeted by this Tweet in ALL CAPS from one of the agencies Twitter: "URGENTE SOLICITAMOS CHICAS HERMOSAS SIN EXPERIENCIA why CON GANAS DE TRABAJAR DE 18 A 30 AÑOS ERES EDUCADA why RESPONSABLE WHATS APP # ZonaDivias also advertises similarly on Twitter looking for new talent and apparently taking them to CDMX.

Most of the local love motels are lined up along Bernado Quintana on the north side of town. These are the Lisboa, Magno, Las Vegas, and Luxor. There are a few others on the outskirts of the city. All of these are drive-in arrangements where the gatekeeper will take your payment as you enter and direct you to park in the garage attached to your room. You pay up front for the room and there's no opportunity to wait for your date in a lobby. Actually the Magna does have what might once have been a lobby and restaurant but it's abandoned with no furniture now. If you arrive solo in a taxi you can expect the burly gatekeeper to offer that he can call one of his girls for you. ZonaDiva girls come to town from time to time but they seem to shy away from the centrally-located motels in favor of a couple on the outskirts of town.

After several awful experiences here in Queretaro I gave it up. Here you've to pay up front for a room and two outa three times the girl I thought was an independent turned out to be somebody else the agency sent and she didn't match the pictures, not even close. But she's you boxed in and for all you know she's some gorilla driver waiting outside. I paid 1500 pesos for service worse than street walker. No kissing, no BJ just one poke and out in 20 minutes.

From now on I guess I'll have to take my mongering out of town.

[Karole]

Paid a visit to the above establishment mentioned on this thread. I was not impressed at all, the women mostly are nothing special, they don't have secure parking if you are driving, it only starts to get going around 23:00 hrs and the ambience has a distinct rip off feel about it. They don't even serve beer! The place itself reminds me of a dodgy Russian joint. Maybe I have been spoilt spending a lot of time in Asia and Venezuela which are both good places, I was in Singapore and Indonesia 2 weeks ago and the worst place I went was 10 times better. I am going to check out another place maybe tomorrow which I hope will be better, certainly can't be any worse. The place is called Fiesta Charra.

May the force be with you.

I went to both places during a uber tour to all strip clubs in Queretaro and I didn't see anything special in fiesta charra or in la yegua, I agree with you as the place seems to be a complete rip off, and those prices compared to the ones in mexico city are very similar, the difference is that in mexico city you can get more quality for that.

One of the best places in Queretaro is on the road toCelaya, it is called la Cabaña and you need a car to get there, some taxi drivers will take you but you need to figure out how to come back.

[LukeSkyWanker]

Paid a visit to the above establishment mentioned on this thread. I was not impressed at all, the women mostly are nothing special, they don't have secure parking if you are driving, it only starts to get going around 23:00 hrs and the ambience has a distinct rip off feel about it. They don't even serve beer! The place itself reminds me of a dodgy Russian joint. Maybe I have been spoilt spending a lot of time in Asia and Venezuela which are both good places, I was in Singapore and Indonesia 2 weeks ago and the worst place I went was 10 times better. I am going to check out another place maybe tomorrow which I hope will be better, certainly can't be any worse. The place is called Fiesta Charra.

May the force be with you.

[FredFife]

La Yegua is the place. Southwest of the Centro Historico and south of the university. It is on Calle Heriberto Allero just north of where 45 D and 57 intersect and behind the Pemex off of Av. Constituyentes. It doesn't open until 9 or 10 PM. Give us a report please and if you can, we also need a report on El Establo and El Corral de la Chiva. Both in Apaseo el Grande, between Qto and Celaya.

El Corral de la Chiva is now closed.

[Juan Carter]

My first time in Queretaro. I need a little advice on where to search for WGs, strip clubs, and HI historical district (is it girl friendly? Thanks in advance.

La Yegua is the place. Southwest of the Centro Historico and south of the university. It is on Calle Heriberto Allero just north of where 45 D and 57 intersect and behind the Pemex off of Av. Constituyentes. It doesn't open until 9 or 10 PM. Give us a report please and if you can, we also need a report on El Establo and El Corral de la Chiva. Both in Apaseo el Grande, between Qto and Celaya.

[GetBusyLiving]

My first time in Queretaro. I need a little advice on where to search for WGs, strip clubs, and HI historical district (is it girl friendly?

Thanks in advance.