2004 Archived Reports

[Mutha Foo]

I was not there but I heard New Year's Eve at Adelitas was dead. That comes to me as a complete surprise. Can anyone verify?

[Explorer8939]

Travlr sez:

"Look for St Louis type arch, walk that way. It is a ten minute walk at most so why would you pay a cab? The walk is through a couple of squares A.K.A. tourist traps, very safe but expect to be asked to go to the pharmacies or have a drink in the cantinas. When you get to the arch pass by it and take the first street to the right. There is two blocks of hotels with girls standing out front."

This is not entirely correct. If you reach the Arch from the border, the first street to the right is Articulo 123. Here, there is one block of hotels with girls in front, but no hotels on the second block. Moreover, I don't know any "Monica" who stands on either block. I think that the writer is confusing Articulo 123 with maybe Constitucion or even the Alley.

[Rabo Verde]

Gee according to CHORIZO, I am a liar for claiming the cops shook me down in TJ! They seem to be getting brazen again, after cooling it for a while. At least they didn't do me at gunpoint...

Did anyone go New Years Eve? How was it? The hotter Chicas are wandering back in from their XMAS vacations. YUMMY YUMMY!

[Pokey]

i found this article and posted here on this forum not to scare anyone, but to make you aware what can happen. you should also read getting tangs, excellent report on the same subject some pages back.

your chances of getting harrassed in tj are still small, and there are a few things you can do to make it safer. one, don't drive in, walk and take a taxi. two, dress down, pair a jeans old shirt, no diamond rings or expensive watches. three, look like you belong there, don't stand out. don't get drunk and become an asshole, also don't argue with the girl, if she didn't give you a bj when she said she would.

there are good cops in tj, protecting the public and not taking bribes, oh maybe a good 1% to 5%, the other 95% are currupt and maybe nice, but do take bribes. if you are asked for a bribe,and its not too much pay it, and yes bargain the price down. you will be scared, but after you get back to the us side you will laugh about it, maybe brag to your friends.

one more thing, do any of you remember the movie "serpico"
same thing here. to the tj cops, there is nothing worst then a cop that will not take bribes. cops in tj make almost nothing, if i was a tj cop i would be hitting up mongers too, especially one that i know you might be in town next week.



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more tourists complain of abuse by officials

january 1, 2004

tijuana – amid a rising number of tourist complaints about police
misconduct, an arizona man has claimed he was stopped by police
officers friday near the san ysidro border crossing, placed in a
police truck and forced at gunpoint to take money from an atm.

ron terwilliger, 44, said he walked across the border to tijuana the
day after christmas to buy jewelry on avenida revolucion. about 4
p.m., as he was lining up to cross back to san diego, he said, a man
in a police uniform motioned him aside. two other officers soon
arrived.

"i feel lucky to be alive," terwilliger said in a telephone interview
from his home in arizona.

he reported the incident to san diego police as soon as he returned
to the u.s. side.

at least a dozen allegations by u.s. tourists who say they have been
extorted or assaulted by tijuana police have come to light in recent
months.

over the summer, the u.s. consulate in tijuana sent the city's
internal affairs office complaints filed by eight tourists who said
police officers forced them to hand over money, in one case $600.

in the past 15 months, three u.s. women have filed reports with
california police agencies accusing tijuana police officers of [CodeWord123].

tijuana law enforcement officials say they are trying to discipline
corrupt officers. gilberto fimbres, tijuana's assistant police chief,
said nothing will change unless victims report the crimes. "they
should have the civic valor . . . or we will never end corruption."

in november, four municipal police officers were arrested after one
of the alleged u.s. [CodeWord123] victims crossed the border and identified
them as her assailant. one officer was quickly charged with [CodeWord123], two
with extortion and abuse of authority, and the fourth with failing to
report the crimes. two are in prison and two are out on bail until
their trials.

other u.s. victims have seen the wheels of justice turn far more
slowly. when tijuana's head of internal affairs reviewed the
complaints from the tourists who said they had been extorted, his
office recommended that 16 police officers be dismissed. but david
solis, president of tijuana's citizens council for public safety and
a member of the commission of honor and justice, said the cases were
too weak to warrant outright dismissal.

instead, the commission ruled in november that only 12 of them should
be punished – with 30-day suspensions without pay.

as of this week, however, none of the officers has been notified of
his suspension. solis said he was told they were still on the job
because the department is short-staffed during the holiday season and
is waiting until early next year to suspend them.

terwilliger, a locksmith, said that when he was stopped he was
carrying $200 worth of jewelry he had bought as gifts and $10 to pay
for his parking across the border.

after leading him for a half-block and handcuffing him, terwilliger
said, the first officer steered him around a corner to a covered
white chevy pickup with a siren on top and marked with the
word "police."

"he told me, 'get in,' and i said, 'what have i done?' " terwilliger
recalled. "he put his hand on his gun."

the officer wore a brown uniform, the color worn by tijuana's
commercial police, who are paid directly by banks and businesses to
protect their premises. they have no authority to patrol near the
border.

a second officer arrived in a blue uniform, the color worn by
tijuana's regular patrol officers. later, terwilliger noticed a third
officer watching from a distance.

terwilliger said he was told "the judge wants $400. he's very angry
at you." he said the officers took his jewelry. they pulled off his
shoes, emptied his wallet and drove him to an atm, forcing him to
withdraw more than $200. at one point an officer cocked his gun.

terwilliger said he was released after he said he couldn't get any
more money out of the machine. after crossing the border, he reported
the incident to san diego police.

u.s. police can do little except tell victims to call the u.s.
consulate, said sgt. bob lopez, head of the san diego police
department's mexico liaison team.

"people think that because we're so physically close it's one, but
we're not just talking two different cities. we're talking two
different countries," lopez said.

liza davis, a spokeswoman at the u.s. consulate, said officials are
aware of terwilliger's case.

"we're really pleased that people come forward to us," she said, "and
we do aggressively pursue the complaints with local authorities when
we know about them."

[Doctor Grim]

Lee Bog is right wrt the MPs in TJ.

I've been to several and they relatively work out the same way.

However, they always say $30/hr for topless or $40/hr for nude. If you want extras (FS), then don't bother paying for the nude because the girl will have to undress anyway.

The real excitement again is that you get to pick the girl that you like. Of course, the selection and quality depend on time of the day.

These girls, unlike the Bar girls, are more willing and more friendly. I have never been rushed. And the session always takes up the whole hour. Unless you cut it short yourself.

Standard massage with lotion for the first 20-30 min. Then extras if you negotiate. I've always gotten what I wanted for $80. They always tell you $120 or $100 to start.

Once you pop, the session doesn't end there if you still have time. She will clean you up, either work you with a HJ or a CBJ (depending on what you want, and stimulate you for a second pop).

Or you can just tell her to perform CBJ until the time is up and that's a great feeling.

I usually just tip her the $10 that I saved from the entrance fee because they really deserve it for their hard work (on me).

They kiss too......

Sure you can get an escort for $150/hr and that is also a good experience. But I'm in the hobby for variety and excitement so the idea of walking into a MP and have the power to choose is enticing.

[Hobby Fan]

Travlr:

On a frequently discussed topic, you should never walk between the Border and the Zona Norte at night, and with all due respect a 'first timer' is not really in a position to advise that it is safe to walk. The ramps and bridge area (where you cross the river) are notorious for muggings at night. I have spoken to several victims. Others have posted on this board. A $2 Taxi Libre ride or even a $ 5 yellow cab is a smart investment. If you think the Board is full of garbage, fine, but please be careful when giving safety advice! Perhaps you walked during the day....

HF

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