Havana

[Grey Soul 15]

Man, you weren't liying about CyberCupido.com they have a ton of Cuban chicks. But the question is how do they get on there in the first place? I thought internet access was tightly restricted in Cuba.

[El Cubanito]

Man, I have seen some ugly guys with in Havana or any part of Cuba with some nice candy in their arms. I met this FAT Mexican dude in Central Havana who was getting good pussy action.

It must be something with you. Listen, last summer I was in Cuba from July 31 to September 29 and my Dick can not get hard enough from all of the pussy action that I got.

If you go to the campos you even get more. I found some 8 and 9 in the campos and all they wanted was a beer. I do not know what you are doing wrong.

El Cubanito

[Organicgrowth]

Driedup

I am quite sad to have read your post. Listen man: hold your head high and try different tactics… Show your money if you have to, dress to impress, and when you are with a chica make her feel like the Latin goddess she is….

If finding “free” chicas is difficult go online and join one of the agencies like www.cybercupido.com become a gold member, it will cost you like $10….nothing… There are hundreds of chicas in Cuba (specifically Havana) who go online everyday… Start from there and let them know you are a extranjero rico de cualquier país….. get my point.

I wish you luck friend. Just remember you are a man and not some mouse…. Hold your head up man…

Regards, Havanaman

[DriedUp]

I have been in cuba since December. Since I am ugly and short I have had no luck.
And worst of all, I am Hispanic, I am brown skinned. Many many here think I am cuban, even the police. So I try and try. But nothing. Clarification--I try to get the free pussy. dinner, drinks and pussy.

I am lazy. I went to bayamo and stayed a month. since I had to come back to Havana to leave after two months and come back, I stayed in Havana.

I know the hard hard core women are here, so my bad luck is greatest here.

Maybe for the last two weeks I will go to Isla.

But I have had pussy. Not just the kind I want.

Any questions, pm me.

[Rebel Monger]

In general avoid the center of havana and most of the tourist hot spots where you gonna find most of the people who try to scam you. One time my cuban friend told me that all the people who approach you are la basura de le sociedad cubana which means they are the trash of the cuban society. In the center don't be afraid to be rude to get rid of some people. Some phrases which work most of the time are deja me en paz (leave me alone), fechate (fuck off) estoy palmiche (I am dead broke), usted no me molesta (leave me alone but with a stronger meaning), or just use no entiendo (I don't understand). By far the best way to deal with this kind of people is to ignore them and to keep on walking. In the center never trust a cuban as they try to get as much money as possible out of your pocket. Ignore people who try to sell you cigars, rum, know good bars as you end up paying the bill, mothers who want money to buy milk for their babies (milk till the age of 7 is free in cuba) in general people who say hola amigo de donde es usted (hey my friend where are you from) and usually try some conversation about some friends who play music and travelled to your country recently bla bla bla.

For most cubans tourists are simply rich because they average cuban income is round about 10 - 15 usd per month. One more time be careful when people approach you cause they have dollar signs in front of their eyes when they see tourists. Have fun

I have no doubt about the milk scam. Things have changed a lot in the island. When I lived there, most were proud and asked for nothing, the did steal from the government anything they could.
About the milk being free until the age of seven, not true. You are allowed to buy milk for your children until they are seven years of age through the "ration book" (libreta). The confusion might not be your fault, as Cuban tend to say "te dan x", which means give, but in reality it means that you're allowed to buy. Next time you go there, just ask, or better yet, go with the person to the store when he/she goes to get the free milk!

[Berthold]

I forgot to mention another hotspot where you can hook up with semi pros or real cuban girls the university of havana. If you speak spanish it is certainly easier to get in touch with the girls, but nothing is impossible. During my trip in Dec/Jan I visited la Universidad de la Habana and got to know some real nice cuban girls. For all you guys who want to get to know a real nice chica cubana and maybe learn some spanish this is the place to be. Most of them are willing to give you clases de espanol for 2-3 cuc per hour which is almost nothing and you have the possibility to get laid as well. As we all know cuba is very poor country, and most people want to leave especially highly educated people the whole area of the university is a very good target to pick up some cuties. One of the only possiblities of leave Cuba is to marry an extranjero so most of the girls are eager to get to know extranjeros. Another positive aspect is the zero police presence at the university. I got to know one of my novias at the univeristy, as I approached her if she could give me clases de espanol. We exchanged numbers and the next day she showed up at my casa particular and things went from there. Have fun.

[Berthold]

Havana is not what it used to be. The scamming is getting to be pretty bad

Cine Yara area (La Rampa y L) is where all the transvestites hang out.

In the center of Havana don't be afraid to become rude in order to get rid of people. Another thing which works most of the times when somebody tries to approach you is to keep on walking, or simply to ignore that particular person. During my trip I figured out that once you are with cuban people (girls) people don't try to scam you and most of the time your girl will protect you because she knows their game. Another thing which worked most of the time during my stay was to use headphones, so most people assume that you are listening to music and they don't even try to talk to you, or walk in groups, because once you walk alone you are an easier target. In general use your head and you will avoid most the scams and never trust a cuban you just met in the center. Once a cuban friend told me that all the people who approach you are la basura de la sociedad cubana which means they are the trash of the cuban society. Just keep that phrase in mind and you will be fine.

Have fun

[BeersTerry]

Havana is not what it used to be. The scamming is getting to be pretty bad

Cine Yara area (La Rampa y L) is where all the transvestites hang out.

[Member #4643]

Ignore ...mothers who want money to buy milk for their babies (milk till the age of 7 is free in cuba)...

I was asked to donate money for milk at least once a day when I was in Cuba. I wish I had known that milk is free. On one occasion, a father asked me for money for his baby whom he said had never had cow's milk in her life. When we went into the tienda to buy milk (I never give away money), he ordered oil and flour instead (I bought him a bag of powdered milk as we had agreed and left). On another occasion, a 10 year old asked me for milk for his younger brother. The younger brother (he must have been 5 years old) subsequently approached the two of us and told me that HE had a younger brother who had never had milk- would I care to donate? Their scam was so funny that I offered to buy them a glass of milk at the bar. Instead, they chose some type of Cuban cola.

No doubt about it, the Cubans like the milk scam! Of course, I was always delighted to trade leche for affection when asked by the right person.

[Berthold]

From my experience in Marrakesh, people are trying to charge you 10 times what something is worth, but you are expected to haggle. Even when you get "ripped off, " it is normally because you are uninformed on an item's value and you walk away feeling good, thinking you got a good deal. I don't consider that as much as a "con" as both myself and my friends experienced almost everyday in havana. I felt much more betrayed and deceived in my cuba experience. But like I said, that is only my opinion, however my friend felt the same way, and he speaks spanish fluently (and lives in costa rica), so the language didn't help him. It just made him vulnerable to that many more people (the ones who can't even speak english).

In general avoid the center of havana and most of the tourist hot spots where you gonna find most of the people who try to scam you. One time my cuban friend told me that all the people who approach you are la basura de le sociedad cubana which means they are the trash of the cuban society. In the center don't be afraid to be rude to get rid of some people. Some phrases which work most of the time are deja me en paz (leave me alone), fechate (fuck off) estoy palmiche (I am dead broke), usted no me molesta (leave me alone but with a stronger meaning), or just use no entiendo (I don't understand). By far the best way to deal with this kind of people is to ignore them and to keep on walking. In the center never trust a cuban as they try to get as much money as possible out of your pocket. Ignore people who try to sell you cigars, rum, know good bars as you end up paying the bill, mothers who want money to buy milk for their babies (milk till the age of 7 is free in cuba) in general people who say hola amigo de donde es usted (hey my friend where are you from) and usually try some conversation about some friends who play music and travelled to your country recently bla bla bla.

For most cubans tourists are simply rich because they average cuban income is round about 10 - 15 usd per month. One more time be careful when people approach you cause they have dollar signs in front of their eyes when they see tourists. Have fun

[Circle]

lol Is that possible? Morrocco as a whole is bad but Tangers where you first come in is pure tourist hell!

From my experience in Marrakesh, people are trying to charge you 10 times what something is worth, but you are expected to haggle. Even when you get "ripped off, " it is normally because you are uninformed on an item's value and you walk away feeling good, thinking you got a good deal. I don't consider that as much as a "con" as both myself and my friends experienced almost everyday in havana. I felt much more betrayed and deceived in my cuba experience. But like I said, that is only my opinion, however my friend felt the same way, and he speaks spanish fluently (and lives in costa rica), so the language didn't help him. It just made him vulnerable to that many more people (the ones who can't even speak english).

[Grey Soul 15]

Cuba has more con arists than i´ve seen in my life. It´s even worse than morocco.

lol Is that possible? Morrocco as a whole is bad but Tangers where you first come in is pure tourist hell!

[Berthold]

so I have just left havana, which means I finally have access to cheaper internet. Here is my report.

The first night I was very tired, but I walked around the malecon (vedado area) and was quickly approached by a "jinetero" named Edward who spoke english well and offered "casas or whatever I needed. " I took his number and continued on.

Then I caught a taxi to prado. I walked around the streets between prado and casa del musica (animas I think) and I was approached by another jinetero. This one quoted me $40, and I said I was too tired. He said "just look" and I love to look, so I followed him into what would appeared to be an abandoned building, and up a flight of stairs with no lights. In cuba, this is just a normal living situation. The girl was not too bad, but not hot either. I said I only had $20, he said that was fine, but I continued on my way, because I was too tired.

So I walk along the malecon when these well dressed guys who speak english and a little french approach me and ask for "for only one dollar" for rum. I liked the honesty so I gave it to them. Then they became my best friends. It was one of their "birthdays. " they ask me to join them drinking, I say i´m to tired, but they finally convince me. This is where I realize i´m about to be scammed. They have brought me a girl (who looks like she gets beat up) and about 8 of my new "friends" are going to a bar, where i´m expected to pay for everybody. This is a common scam. I met some people on the plane who had the same thing happen to them. Everybody who is having a birthday or anniversary (and approaches you in english) is probably scamming you. They may even take you to a bar or restaurant with a double menu. The one they give you is 50% to 100% more than normal. Cuba has more con arists than i´ve seen in my life. It´s even worse than morocco. Fortunately I saw what was happening, bought 4 beers and walked out.

The next day I meet a non pro or semi pro on the malecon. I want a gfe, so I ask her what she´s doing, if she would like to go to dinner, whatever. She takes me to her house, we pick up her brother (to walk ahead for cops) and go to a place with $15 lobster. This girl starts scamming me quickly! I tell the people I have only $30, and all of the sudden the price goes to $10 per person. (cause 3 times $10 is $30). Her brother actually asks me why I don´t have more money. I wanted to punch him dead in his face. Anyway, we leave, go to a reggae party, and when I tell her i´m ready to go, she says she can´t go with me, cause of her mother or something. I didn´t understand, because my spanish sucks. So strike 2 for me.

The next night I walk around the streets of centro and a jinetero speaking english approaches me. He takes me to this place and hooks me up with a girl who gives me BBBJCIM (thank you god) for $10. I give him $3 for the good job. Finally score one for jeremy! the girl wasn´t ugly, but not young and skinny like I was looking for. The service, however, was great.

The next night i´m walking the streets of centro again, when I see a large group of cubans dancing in the street. I want to be a part of it, so I go straight to the center, but then 2 girls grab me and usher me out. They say it isn´t safe because my bag (with my camera and stuff) will be snatched. They walk me to my casa and we´re stopped by the police. We talk, I tell the guy they are taking me back for safety, he lets us go. (there really are lots of cops on almost every corner in the tourist areas, but the only seem to give shit to the locals.) the girls want to spend the night, but when we get inside the light of my casa, I see they are fatter and not as pretty as I thought, so I get rid of them.

The next night, I get a hot girl. The jinetero tell me $20. This girl is young (like 20 y. O.) and a dancer so she is fine and has the dark kinky hair i´ve been wanting. Everything goes well (BBBJ and sex) until the jinetero comes to pick her up an hour later. This guy starts telling me there was a miscommunication and she wants $50. I´m willing to give a little more, cause she was worth it. The problem was, when I stepped out ot the room this guy goes through my bags and steals about $50. I thought it was well hidden, but he was fast. I didn´t realize it happened until they were gone. I´m just glad they didn´t take my passport or any important papers in the same pocket of my bags.

So my final night I call up Edward who I met earlier. He arranges for me to go out with a real non pro. She was very pretty and very shy, but she didn´t want to spend the night because of her baby. Edward never asked for any money, only that I help him read a little bit in english (he was trying to get a better job). If anybody wants his number, he is the only jinetero who really treated me well.

A couple of things I forgot to mention. I spent over 2 hours in customs upon arrival, so they could make sure I didn´t have porn or banned electronics. There were more dogs in the havana airport than i´ve seen in my life. And calle 23 & malecon (and havana in general) has more gays then i´ve ever seen. Apparently, the gays don´t get hassled by the cops the way girls do. Go figure.

So my summary of cuba is, go somewhere else. The girls are beautiful until they hit about 25, then their skin looks like they get beat up or do drugs or something. As a tourist, you are just a walking dollar bill. There are a few honest people, but you really must speak spanish very well here. You will also get ripped off nearly everyday, so expect it. It´s the way of life here. There are much better places to monger, at least that´s my opinion.

Adios

In Havana especially in center ignore people male and female who want to talk to you. the only thing they want is your money to rip you off. if you want to hook up with a regular girl avoid the center and all the tourist hotspot as most of the girls in this area are hardcore pros. instead go to the suburbs of havana where you can find real girls who don`t want to rip you off. One of my cuban friend once said to me that all the people in the center who approach you are la basura de nuestra sociedad which means they are the trash of the cuban society! Never trust a cuban you just met in the center, malecon as they just try to scam you. In Havana don`t flash with money, digital camera, jewelery as you will catch the attention of certain people. stay safe

[Beregic]

Hey fellas,

Most girls in cuba are not shaved!

Good hunting,

Hasta luego y mucho suerte

Ya you just reminded me to pack my shaving kit. P. kind of had problems first time with that aspect of extreamlly harry legs. especially if the body and face are really beautifull.

[Circle]

so I have just left havana, which means I finally have access to cheaper internet. Here is my report.

The first night I was very tired, but I walked around the malecon (vedado area) and was quickly approached by a "jinetero" named Edward who spoke english well and offered "casas or whatever I needed. " I took his number and continued on.

Then I caught a taxi to prado. I walked around the streets between prado and casa del musica (animas I think) and I was approached by another jinetero. This one quoted me $40, and I said I was too tired. He said "just look" and I love to look, so I followed him into what would appeared to be an abandoned building, and up a flight of stairs with no lights. In cuba, this is just a normal living situation. The girl was not too bad, but not hot either. I said I only had $20, he said that was fine, but I continued on my way, because I was too tired.

So I walk along the malecon when these well dressed guys who speak english and a little french approach me and ask for "for only one dollar" for rum. I liked the honesty so I gave it to them. Then they became my best friends. It was one of their "birthdays. " they ask me to join them drinking, I say i´m to tired, but they finally convince me. This is where I realize i´m about to be scammed. They have brought me a girl (who looks like she gets beat up) and about 8 of my new "friends" are going to a bar, where i´m expected to pay for everybody. This is a common scam. I met some people on the plane who had the same thing happen to them. Everybody who is having a birthday or anniversary (and approaches you in english) is probably scamming you. They may even take you to a bar or restaurant with a double menu. The one they give you is 50% to 100% more than normal. Cuba has more con arists than i´ve seen in my life. It´s even worse than morocco. Fortunately I saw what was happening, bought 4 beers and walked out.

The next day I meet a non pro or semi pro on the malecon. I want a gfe, so I ask her what she´s doing, if she would like to go to dinner, whatever. She takes me to her house, we pick up her brother (to walk ahead for cops) and go to a place with $15 lobster. This girl starts scamming me quickly! I tell the people I have only $30, and all of the sudden the price goes to $10 per person. (cause 3 times $10 is $30). Her brother actually asks me why I don´t have more money. I wanted to punch him dead in his face. Anyway, we leave, go to a reggae party, and when I tell her i´m ready to go, she says she can´t go with me, cause of her mother or something. I didn´t understand, because my spanish sucks. So strike 2 for me.

The next night I walk around the streets of centro and a jinetero speaking english approaches me. He takes me to this place and hooks me up with a girl who gives me BBBJCIM (thank you god) for $10. I give him $3 for the good job. Finally score one for jeremy! the girl wasn´t ugly, but not young and skinny like I was looking for. The service, however, was great.

The next night i´m walking the streets of centro again, when I see a large group of cubans dancing in the street. I want to be a part of it, so I go straight to the center, but then 2 girls grab me and usher me out. They say it isn´t safe because my bag (with my camera and stuff) will be snatched. They walk me to my casa and we´re stopped by the police. We talk, I tell the guy they are taking me back for safety, he lets us go. (there really are lots of cops on almost every corner in the tourist areas, but the only seem to give shit to the locals.) the girls want to spend the night, but when we get inside the light of my casa, I see they are fatter and not as pretty as I thought, so I get rid of them.

The next night, I get a hot girl. The jinetero tell me $20. This girl is young (like 20 y. O.) and a dancer so she is fine and has the dark kinky hair i´ve been wanting. Everything goes well (BBBJ and sex) until the jinetero comes to pick her up an hour later. This guy starts telling me there was a miscommunication and she wants $50. I´m willing to give a little more, cause she was worth it. The problem was, when I stepped out ot the room this guy goes through my bags and steals about $50. I thought it was well hidden, but he was fast. I didn´t realize it happened until they were gone. I´m just glad they didn´t take my passport or any important papers in the same pocket of my bags.

So my final night I call up Edward who I met earlier. He arranges for me to go out with a real non pro. She was very pretty and very shy, but she didn´t want to spend the night because of her baby. Edward never asked for any money, only that I help him read a little bit in english (he was trying to get a better job). If anybody wants his number, he is the only jinetero who really treated me well.

A couple of things I forgot to mention. I spent over 2 hours in customs upon arrival, so they could make sure I didn´t have porn or banned electronics. There were more dogs in the havana airport than i´ve seen in my life. And calle 23 & malecon (and havana in general) has more gays then i´ve ever seen. Apparently, the gays don´t get hassled by the cops the way girls do. Go figure.

So my summary of cuba is, go somewhere else. The girls are beautiful until they hit about 25, then their skin looks like they get beat up or do drugs or something. As a tourist, you are just a walking dollar bill. There are a few honest people, but you really must speak spanish very well here. You will also get ripped off nearly everyday, so expect it. It´s the way of life here. There are much better places to monger, at least that´s my opinion.

Adios