Havana

[Edward Q]

Report continued from "Other Areas" Cuba thread.

Came to Havana for 5 days after spending 9 days in eastern Cuba. I know Havana fairly well and have friends here. The action is centered around San Rafael Street and the park, with a side spur down Paseo del Prado. I did the rounds and could not find a girl with the specific proportions I require. What I saw were bigger, heftier or older women. But it was still early. I decided to stroll through Havana Centro. Stoop girls were out. I began a conversation with one and we hit it off. Small black girl, cupcake tits, never been pregnant. I asked her how much and she said whatever you want to give me. I said how about 3000? (About 10 bucks). She said OK. We took a bici to my apartment and jumped in the shower together. After the shower I asked her to model some clothes I brought for "whatever pretty girl I meet". She liked that and selected shorts, a top and some sexy underwear. I will attempt to include her photo here. She is the girl with the black hat. She had a tight body and perfect round tennis ball sized tits. I really loved her small boobs. She had no problem giving oral or rimming. Eager in fact. No mention of condom as she jumped on me and we got going. She was determined to orgasm and was successful. I loved her enthusiasm and horny body, so much so that I asked her to come the next morning at 11. She came and we repeated. Even better than the day before. As we rested afterwards, she wanted to let me know that she was available for all night the next time. I asked her what that would cost. She replied, Whatever you want to give me. Sounded good. After the shower she politely asked me for the second pair of shorts that she had not chosen the night before; she says it's because all her clothing was stolen. I didn't ask for details. I was glad to set her up with sexy short-shorts. In the end I gave her 5 K instead of 3 K for each pop. She seemed happy with that. That was day 1 & 2.

On day three I decided to look for a different type of girl. My buddy and I walked around San Rafael and we watched a tall, thin, light skinned girl approach. She had a coy smile. My friend pointed out her "cholo" or boyfriend who was walking about three steps behind her and not doing a very good job of concealing himself. My friend suggested I go up to her, so I did. I asked how much. The girl said, "50". 50 dollars? No. Mucho, I said. How much will you pay, she asked? I said I'd pay 30. She didn't like that answer. She wanted more but I wouldn't budge. She then agreed to 30, but something in her eye warned me not to proceed. Her cholo was also in earshot and I decided it was probably not a good idea to have this guy follow me back to see where I lived. I apologized to the girl and said, Perhaps another time. She wasn't angry. She just moved on. Her cholo kept walking a little behind her. I explained to my buddy the conversation. He said, 30 dollars for a girl like that? That's not a bad price. I said that there was something about her that I did not trust. Also, that cholo was making me uncomfortable. He agreed that the cholo situation was messed up, so better not to get involved. We moved back to a quiet place to have a couple of beers and his buddy shows up. My friend explained the recent encounter. The new guy then tells me that, anymore, he doesn't do it with just one girl. Too boring. He needs two. That way, when you get tired, you can tell the two girls to "hacer tortilla". And you can watch them go lesbo on eachother. My first time hearing that expression and I burst out laughing. He stuck to his guns saying if they aren't willing to go down on each other then forget about them. There are other girls around. It was pretty bawdy boy talk, but that's what beer can do. I excused myself to walk around some more and look for a girl who was into "haciendo tortilla".

On the way back towards Parque Central I saw a cute girl giving a dude a piece of her mind. She was sitting on a bench and the guy -- he looked like a homeless bum -- was talking nonsense. The girl didn't like what the guy was saying. I sat down and asked what was wrong. She tried to explain but I was immediately lost in her eyes and didn't hear a thing. She was a thin, mocha colored goddess with a smile that told me she understands this joke called life we are both in. We spoke very briefly, then I asked her what it would take to get her to come back to my room with me? She responded with my favorite answer: What do you want to give me? I suggested 5 k. About 15 USD. She said OK, then was headed to my place. She was another girl who agreed to do whatever I asked her to do in the bedroom. She stripped and we jumped in the shower, happy to feel hot water, and we washed each other. She asked me if I ever had that fantasy where the girl gives a blowjob to a guy while under the shower. I responded, Of course. Hasn't everybody? She smiled and got on her knees and before taking my cock in her mouth she said, "By the way, this is for free. I won't charge you for this. " An absolute angel. Once again, after the shower, I gave her some cute clothes. She tried them on. This is the point at which I ask if I might take a picture. Unlike the last girl, this one was not at all shy about showing everything. She began to pose then she herself began to film the action. Yes, she was wild. She later told me she was 18 and that she had had a kid two years ago with a European guy, and needed to make $$ to support her kid. I repeated with this girl on day 4 and day 5 and she was the best little nympho I have had in a while. She would do something like tongue fuck my ass then pause to ask if I liked it. I love a girl who fucks and then immediately licks me, savoring her own juices. She was in no rush to finish and could have played with my cock and ass for hours. Only trouble was that her skills and perversions made me cum too soon. She had no problem with me depositing my seed in her mouth, on her face, in her hair, or anywhere. Again, no mention at all of protection. Just a preliminary, "You're healthy, right?" I confirmed "Si" and she got down to business. She was so perfect I hope to see her again in my next visit. That doesn't happen too often for me. I should also mention here that, beside the sessions in my apartment, we went out for drinks and dinner on two occasions, listening to music and enjoying a couple of daiquiris. I enjoyed walking through the streets of town hand in hand, and joking with her. She had a real young and lively personality and I loved every minute with her. I tipped her well after each of our encounters. If I can figure out the system here, I'll include her photo here. She is the one with the drink and also proudly displaying her hooch.

I was happy to see that there is a lot of activity in Havana, compare to my previous visits last year. Restaurants and bars staying open later, most with live bands and a lot of patrons. New small shops opened and new bars and artists spaces. So many international items for sale in small shops. I did not see an overly aggressive police force (although in a conversation with a female jinetera she said one woman I knew was taken off to prison for plying the trade.) which meant I saw more girls out that before. I also heard more open criticism of the government and its policies, while at the same time praising them for allowing individuals to own their own businesses. On my next trip I will try to explore the "stoop" girls in Centro Havana. They used to be out and available in the old days. I have a feeling they are coming back. There's nothing like a stoop girl, as I was reminded on this trip. I am hopeful the positive trends I saw for the monger-class continue.

[Zeos1]

Are you saying if I fly out of Toronto to Varadero the package for the hotel+airfare is $700 CAD for a week? All included?

TY.

Mondo.

The issue goes back to the fact that it is not legal for an American to stay in any of these resorts as it is considered support for the Cuban government. So the Canadian tour companies cannot sell these packages to an American or they get in trouble with the US government. Perhaps with a Canadian address it might be possible, but I don't know. I have met many Americans that visit Cuba, but they stay in hotels that they book once they are there, or in the Airbnb type places that are considered to be privately owned, not Cuban government owned.

All the resorts that Canadians go to are partially or fully owned by the Cuban government although originally the foreign companies built these resorts under joint venture agreements.

[Tom Power]

Are you saying if I fly out of Toronto to Varadero the package for the hotel+airfare is $700 CAD for a week? All included?

TY.

Mondo.

It cost roughly 1000 canadian or 700 US for a one week all inclusive package to a 3 or 4 star varadero resort I would recommend a package that includes Air Transat which is the better charter airline than westjet or sunwing. The last minute packages can sell for as low as 700 CDN. Also, its ridiculous when you see that there's 400+cdn in taxes and airport fees included in that 1000 cdn price. If you booked a Airtransat Vacation for a week you could call Airtransat and add your chica to your package and pay airtransat directly instead of at hotel and save money.

[Mondo707]

I'm not sure exactly why you can't book but it may have something to do with using american credit card. I'm certain you could book air transat fly from toronto and add her to your room through air transat. I know for sure Barcelo Sol why Mar will let you bring a cuban in for 120 US a day however that's at noon you cannot bring a girl into barcelo solymar, arenas blancas or Tuxpan (my experience) at midnight or witching hour after disco. Trying to get a girl in at night is impossible. It's ridiculously cheap airfare accomodation one week $700 US from Canada.

Terminal de omnibus nacionales, the airbnb is on pozos dulces very close to avenida salvadore allende, its 30 minutes west walking from parque central.

Bring gifts great idea, however remember to pack snacks for yourself LOL food in resorts is horrible.

Are you saying if I fly out of Toronto to Varadero the package for the hotel+airfare is $700 CAD for a week? All included?

TY.

Mondo.

[Mondo707]

I am bracing for a flogging here but hear me out.

I monger all over the world. I know the drill. Those of you who recognize my handle know this.

I met a girl in Cuba. I liked her. I'm not going to start a relationship with her. I'm married and live across the world.

But I would like to send her money. She's in a bad spot. She is not playing me. I know her situation. But I don't know know to send money privately and anonymously. They don't have PayPal or Venmo there. Western union is far from anonymous. I can't mail money to Cuba. I'm American so there is that embargo thing.

Does anyone know how to send money to a Cuban privately?

Check your inbox.

Mondo.

[Nomars777]

I love that body type, slim, but with a nice rack, really great figure and I'm glad to hear that there are a lot of Afro-Cubanas that fit that body type!

Can't wait to get there in June, thinking of adding a second visit that month, since I have so much free time that month!!

Nomars777.

Thank you ISG for many years of help.

Initially, I went on badoo and messaged girls I liked and discovered a few beauties one goes by name barbie, spinner had her come right to my place gave her 100 US, she has pink hair her rear is tiny like many on badoo she is ashamed of that and hides it in photos because everyone but me wants a big trunk. Barbie was only one who ever discused what I would pay, the rest were happy with anything. I later learned the place to find girls is to be on the walking strip that goes from parque central to parque fe del valle, in fact the whole strip from parque fe del valle to paseo dle prado the bigger walking boulevard all the way to parque LOS enamorados. This is the place to find a girl, malecon, veradero, guanabo beach, miramar all meh compared to just cruising this walking strip. Just after sundown is prime time. You will see hundreds of girls all slim with tiny rear ends mostly Mulato with extensions, barbie was white so there are a few. They all wouldn't leave me in the end of session, many wanted to sleep in the bed. In Colombia after you go home the girls block you in whatsapp, in Cuba after you get home you block them, LOL. Cuba scene is like Cost Rica and Colombia were in the late 90's. The hope of immigrating is more than your money. Another thing every girl Iwas with was extremely active and very good hygiene. I initially gave barbie 100 US and other girls that too but second trip downgraded it to 80 US. Bring toilet paper, girls always ask for perfume or just spray your cologne on themselves.

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[Big Zozo Intl]

Definitely bringing a lot of snacks when I go but I'm going to be in an airbnb in Havana. But still.

[Tom Power]

Great report Tom. Thanks for keeping us informed.

Which terminal de omnibus are you taking about? I googled it, and it shows location right by the Parque central, is that the one you referred to in the post? I remember the main bus terminal in Habana is quite far from that area. Also, which street is your Airbnb located at?

Also, I take it you're Canadian, right? I wouldn't mind taking a hot Cubana for a week to Varadero, problem is mongers from the US can't get a hotel rental there, any suggestion on that front?

TY.

Saludos.

Mondo.

I'm not sure exactly why you can't book but it may have something to do with using American credit card. I'm certain you could book air transat fly from Toronto and add her to your room through air transat. I know for sure Barcelo Sol why Mar will let you bring a Cuban in for 120 US a day however that's at noon you cannot bring a girl into barcelo solymar, arenas blancas or Tuxpan (my experience) at midnight or witching hour after disco. Trying to get a girl in at night is impossible. It's ridiculously cheap airfare accommodation one week $700 US from Canada.

Terminal de omnibus nacionales, the airbnb is on pozos dulces very close to avenida salvadore Allende, its 30 minutes west walking from parque central.

Bring gifts great idea, however remember to pack snacks for yourself LOL food in resorts is horrible.

[Tom Power]

I have not been back to Cuba since Nov 2019, right before the covid. Sounds like things are improving. I have been thinking about spending a week in Veradero with the one Cubana that I have kept in touch with. She wants to do it and is special. Just to be clear, the resort charged $120 US a day just for her in addition to the regular room charge? Do you how much the guy paid his girl to stay with him? The taxi to Veradero from Havana cost you $100 each way? Also did you stay at the barcelo and how was it?

My buddy brought his girl in and she could share his room for 160 cdn and get the arm band to eat etc. He had to cough up the cash every day by noon last day he said baby I got about 300 US if I pay another 120 US to them ull get 120 less. So I figure he gave her 300 US because didn't spend last day with her because of the chaffing problem LOL. Side note and its common she a cuban doesn't like sitting in sun. So preferred to stay in room in comfy bed. Then she didn't like walking around resort alone needed him to go with her to buffet, he got tired of not being able to suntan and following her schedule. Also, if you could book with airtransat from Canada you could book her through them before you arrive that is how cubans do it when return to Cuba and bring family to the resort this is common you will see cubans in resort and always one of them is an american now visiting.

[AmericanPi]

I am bracing for a flogging here but hear me out.

I monger all over the world. I know the drill. Those of you who recognize my handle know this.

I met a girl in Cuba. I liked her. I'm not going to start a relationship with her. I'm married and live across the world.

But I would like to send her money. She's in a bad spot. She is not playing me. I know her situation. But I don't know know to send money privately and anonymously. They don't have PayPal or Venmo there. Western union is far from anonymous. I can't mail money to Cuba. I'm American so there is that embargo thing.

Does anyone know how to send money to a Cuban privately?

[Mondo707]

Thank you ISG for many years of help.

The purpose of this review is to help maintain ISG as the premier resource for mongers in the world.

2 years ago I was in Colombia and really disappointed with how hard it has become to find a girl with a small rear end. I'm over 50 I want a Kate Moss not a Kardashian.

I first went to Cuba in 1999 and was turned off by the shabby conditions so stopped visiting and went to Colombia instead, what a mistake, I should have stayed and worked out Cuba because this place is perfect. This winter, I flew to Varadero from Canada 3 times for 8 days each time at roughly 700 US all included flight / accommodation / food / drink / transfers. During those three trips, I made 8 different trips for the night to Havana where I stayed at an Airbnb (which I highly recommend).

Initially, I travelled from Varadero to Havana each time there and back on the viazul bus varadero terminal to havana terminal in vedado and you can book it online it cost 15 EUR each way. However, its a bit of a drag 4 hours because slow and my 3rd and last trip to Varadero, I just wound up biting the bullet and paying for my own 55 belair to drive me each way for 100 US, I know that's a lot of money but in Cuba everywhere you want to go in a taxi is minimum 10 US. Outside the terminal in Varadero or Vedado there are always guys trying to arrange Collectivo 4 people one taxi 25 US each however, this is uncomfortable too, like the bus, your choice.

Everything else, girls, food, drink, cigars is cheap so why sweat the taxis.

I researched and researched for an airbnb where I figured I could sneak a girl in without trouble I hunted for a place that had own entrance many factors researched locations and I found a place that I believe is the best in Havana, its an apartment 2 blocks north of the Viazul bus station "terminal de omnibus nacionales" $30 US a night has bedroom with amazing A / see, a living room with a fridge, a balcony to look out on street below, there's ashtrays so I guess smoking is allowed, shower is not hot warmish at best, pull-out couch for your needy YUMA (cuban term for Gringo) friends and best of all at any hour of the day you can always just walk back to terminal and there are dozens of taxis waiting to give you a ride. But even more appealing than anything else you can come and go as you please no one bothers you after dark, I guess they should and one time the owner asked me who was with me and if I could send a pic of their document. This is an important note, if the girl your doing won't show you her ID or show the landlord where your staying her ID just get another one, this airbnb for sure, is chica friendly.

Initially, I went on badoo and messaged girls I liked and discovered a few beauties one goes by name barbie, spinner had her come right to my place gave her 100 US, she has pink hair her rear is tiny like many on badoo she is ashamed of that and hides it in photos because everyone but me wants a big trunk. Barbie was only one who ever discused what I would pay, the rest were happy with anything. I later learned the place to find girls is to be on the walking strip that goes from parque central to parque fe del valle, in fact the whole strip from parque fe del valle to paseo dle prado the bigger walking boulevard all the way to parque LOS enamorados. This is the place to find a girl, malecon, veradero, guanabo beach, miramar all meh compared to just cruising this walking strip. Just after sundown is prime time. You will see hundreds of girls all slim with tiny rear ends mostly Mulato with extensions, barbie was white so there are a few. They all wouldn't leave me in the end of session, many wanted to sleep in the bed. In Colombia after you go home the girls block you in whatsapp, in Cuba after you get home you block them, LOL. Cuba scene is like Cost Rica and Colombia were in the late 90's. The hope of immigrating is more than your money. Another thing every girl Iwas with was extremely active and very good hygiene. I initially gave barbie 100 US and other girls that too but second trip downgraded it to 80 US. Bring toilet paper, girls always ask for perfume or just spray your cologne on themselves.

In Varadero, in the resort you will see Yuma with cuban girlfriends making love for one week straight. If this is your thing a guy I hand holded to havana (what a waste of time) met a girl in havana and paid 120 US per day in cash at front desk in barcelosolymar to get her in the resort. He tore it up for 4 days straight then bitched about getting crabs, to finally admit it was just chaffing LOL. Yes you can bring your girl into most resorts or hotels but you got to pay.

Good cigars are hard to find because they cost 50 US at the official store, if your going to buy cigars in the street just buy the skinny ones that are from the warehouse for cubans. "tabaco de bodega" the tabaco is Cuban and no banana leaf and a better smoke than anything else you buy in the street because street cigars are fake cigars. Just tell the tout bothering you about cigars that all you want is "de bodega" they will be surprised but stick to that they cost Cubans 20 pesos each if you pay 1000 pesos for 20 that's a great deal for you and them.

One other thing, avoid russian toursits like the plague there's a lot of them there and they don't speak engli, using the translator on your phone gets tired quick and besides they are a very angry people all the time it makes no sense contaminating your time with their negative energy.

Ok, were all in this together.

Tom Power.

Ill keep an eye on thread if you have questions.

Great report Tom. Thanks for keeping us informed.

Which terminal de omnibus are you taking about? I googled it, and it shows location right by the Parque central, is that the one you referred to in the post? I remember the main bus terminal in Habana is quite far from that area. Also, which street is your Airbnb located at?

Also, I take it you're Canadian, right? I wouldn't mind taking a hot Cubana for a week to Varadero, problem is mongers from the US can't get a hotel rental there, any suggestion on that front?

TY.

Saludos.

Mondo.

[Big Zozo Intl]

Good post Tom.

Anyways, what I plan on doing for Cuba is mostly giving the women gifts for sex. Many people have said sometimes they prefer that over cash. And I have a lot of old stuff I don't need and I can buy cheap bikinas, perfumes, etc. The ones I've spoken to already said they'd like that. But all in all can't wait to add Afro-Cuban women to my "resume. ".

[AmorPorFavor]

In Varadero, in the resort you will see Yuma with cuban girlfriends making love for one week straight. If this is your thing a guy I hand holded to havana (what a waste of time) met a girl in havana and paid 120 US per day in cash at front desk in barcelosolymar to get her in the resort. He tore it up for 4 days straight then bitched about getting crabs, to finally admit it was just chaffing LOL. Yes you can bring your girl into most resorts or hotels but you got to pay.

Good cigars are hard to find because they cost 50 US at the official store, if your going to buy cigars in the street just buy the skinny ones that are from the warehouse for cubans. "tabaco de bodega" the tabaco is Cuban and no banana leaf and a better smoke than anything else you buy in the street because street cigars are fake cigars. Just tell the tout bothering you about cigars that all you want is "de bodega" they will be surprised but stick to that they cost Cubans 20 pesos each if you pay 1000 pesos for 20 that's a great deal for you and them.

One other thing, avoid russian toursits like the plague there's a lot of them there and they don't speak english, using the translator on your phone gets tired quick and besides they are a very angry people all the time it makes no sense contaminating your time with their negative energy.

Ok, were all in this together.

Tom Power.

Ill keep an eye on thread if you have questions.

I have not been back to Cuba since Nov 2019, right before the covid. Sounds like things are improving. I have been thinking about spending a week in Veradero with the one Cubana that I have kept in touch with. She wants to do it and is special. Just to be clear, the resort charged $120 US a day just for her in addition to the regular room charge? Do you how much the guy paid his girl to stay with him? The taxi to Veradero from Havana cost you $100 each way? Also did you stay at the barcelo and how was it?

[Tom Power]

Thank you ISG for many years of help.

The purpose of this review is to help maintain ISG as the premier resource for mongers in the world.

2 years ago I was in Colombia and really disappointed with how hard it has become to find a girl with a small rear end. I'm over 50 I want a Kate Moss not a Kardashian.

I first went to Cuba in 1999 and was turned off by the shabby conditions so stopped visiting and went to Colombia instead, what a mistake, I should have stayed and worked out Cuba because this place is perfect. This winter, I flew to Varadero from Canada 3 times for 8 days each time at roughly 700 US all included flight / accommodation / food / drink / transfers. During those three trips, I made 8 different trips for the night to Havana where I stayed at an Airbnb (which I highly recommend).

Initially, I travelled from Varadero to Havana each time there and back on the viazul bus varadero terminal to havana terminal in vedado and you can book it online it cost 15 EUR each way. However, its a bit of a drag 4 hours because slow and my 3rd and last trip to Varadero, I just wound up biting the bullet and paying for my own 55 belair to drive me each way for 100 US, I know that's a lot of money but in Cuba everywhere you want to go in a taxi is minimum 10 US. Outside the terminal in Varadero or Vedado there are always guys trying to arrange Collectivo 4 people one taxi 25 US each however, this is uncomfortable too, like the bus, your choice.

Everything else, girls, food, drink, cigars is cheap so why sweat the taxis.

I researched and researched for an airbnb where I figured I could sneak a girl in without trouble I hunted for a place that had own entrance many factors researched locations and I found a place that I believe is the best in Havana, its an apartment 2 blocks north of the Viazul bus station "terminal de omnibus nacionales" $30 US a night has bedroom with amazing A / see, a living room with a fridge, a balcony to look out on street below, there's ashtrays so I guess smoking is allowed, shower is not hot warmish at best, pull-out couch for your needy YUMA (cuban term for Gringo) friends and best of all at any hour of the day you can always just walk back to terminal and there are dozens of taxis waiting to give you a ride. But even more appealing than anything else you can come and go as you please no one bothers you after dark, I guess they should and one time the owner asked me who was with me and if I could send a pic of their document. This is an important note, if the girl your doing won't show you her ID or show the landlord where your staying her ID just get another one, this airbnb for sure, is chica friendly.

Initially, I went on badoo and messaged girls I liked and discovered a few beauties one goes by name barbie, spinner had her come right to my place gave her 100 US, she has pink hair her rear is tiny like many on badoo she is ashamed of that and hides it in photos because everyone but me wants a big trunk. Barbie was only one who ever discused what I would pay, the rest were happy with anything. I later learned the place to find girls is to be on the walking strip that goes from parque central to parque fe del valle, in fact the whole strip from parque fe del valle to paseo dle prado the bigger walking boulevard all the way to parque LOS enamorados. This is the place to find a girl, malecon, veradero, guanabo beach, miramar all meh compared to just cruising this walking strip. Just after sundown is prime time. You will see hundreds of girls all slim with tiny rear ends mostly Mulato with extensions, barbie was white so there are a few. They all wouldn't leave me in the end of session, many wanted to sleep in the bed. In Colombia after you go home the girls block you in whatsapp, in Cuba after you get home you block them, LOL. Cuba scene is like Cost Rica and Colombia were in the late 90's. The hope of immigrating is more than your money. Another thing every girl Iwas with was extremely active and very good hygiene. I initially gave barbie 100 US and other girls that too but second trip downgraded it to 80 US. Bring toilet paper, girls always ask for perfume or just spray your cologne on themselves.

In Varadero, in the resort you will see Yuma with cuban girlfriends making love for one week straight. If this is your thing a guy I hand holded to havana (what a waste of time) met a girl in Havana and paid 120 US per day in cash at front desk in barcelosolymar to get her in the resort. He tore it up for 4 days straight then bitched about getting crabs, to finally admit it was just chaffing LOL. Yes you can bring your girl into most resorts or hotels but you got to pay.

Good cigars are hard to find because they cost 50 US at the official store, if your going to buy cigars in the street just buy the skinny ones that are from the warehouse for cubans. "tabaco de bodega" the tabaco is Cuban and no banana leaf and a better smoke than anything else you buy in the street because street cigars are fake cigars. Just tell the tout bothering you about cigars that all you want is "de bodega" they will be surprised but stick to that they cost Cubans 20 pesos each if you pay 1000 pesos for 20 that's a great deal for you and them.

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Ok, were all in this together.

Tom Power.

I'll keep an eye on thread if you have questions.

[Big Zozo Intl]

That makes total sense. Nice.

Yea IG is a good alternative. It maybe slower than badoo and tinder but the rewards are greater than the former two because IG has real talent not just for Cuba but for many countries because not every women use tinder or badoo but we know women LOVE IG from working / regular women.

It varied between girls, so it's hard to give you an answer. Some moved slower because they did not want me to perceive them as working girls, and others moved more quickly. Both of the non-pros I slept with were on the same day I met them. However, I had been texting with them on Badoo beforehand. I found that once they got comfortable and made sure you were not catfishing them, they were receptive to moving quicker.

Same day is still good LOL. But yea its good you were texting them beforehand to establish a connection. That's what I am doing with the two I'm chatting with. As for catfishing? Agreed but I normally do video calls, and I show them my airbnb reservation to ensure them that I am really coming.