Havana

[GrownMan1]

The steak might be a little closer, but here's the thing I'm not asking what the rate is to the guy next to me at a steak house. Just like I'm not coming on here anymore asking what going rates are because I don't care. If I want something I know how much I will pay for it, doesn't matter what others pay for it. I certainly would not get mad or offended if someone got the same girl for less money. I was giving out coach and MK purses that costed 2-400 last trip to DR, I didn't need to do it. I wasn't doing it to get better service, in fact one girl I used that line on because I saw someone on here say they did it. I gave her the you make this night stellar and you will get this, well 30 minutes later I decided that was kind of stupid and just gave it to her. I enjoy the look on their faces, just like when I go to the villages and give the kids toys and candy. It's giving someone something that is way beyond what they think they would ever get. I had a 5 some in Sosua and 3 of the girls were only 2000 but it was such a blast I gave them more than that in a tip. I don't expect more, I just enjoy giving I guess and don't think guys who don't want to worry about price should feel they need to negotiate. PLenty of people don't negotiate in life, that's part of my job and I certainly don't want to do it on vacation.

How much you want to pay is your business. But you sound so different from the other guy on the DR forum. Here is his Quote on 10-15-18 "I had some chick tried to take me to the cops for not paying years ago, I walked all the way to the police station with her and the street cop until within 100 yards she gave up and I went my own way. I still have a full beer in my hand so I was just enjoying the show. I outlasted her. Also I didn't pay because she didn't follow through with our agreement, ". This man ain't shouting performance means nothing. He was willing to waste his vacation time following behind a puta on a two year old dept for the Amount of money You wipe your ass with. I apologize I thought you were the same person.

[Ty Down]

A few pics of Playa del Estes.

[Ty Down]

It sucked because it is winter time. Cubans go to the beach during the summer. The winter coats shoulda been a giveaway

Hahaha, you're right.

[BeersTerry]

I visited Playa del este back in February, it was pretty much dead. Beautiful beach though, there was a couple chicas walking around but also several police, most were wearing plain clothes but it was obvious that they were watching every move we made, and every move the chicas made. It sucked.

It sucked because it is winter time. Cubans go to the beach during the summer. The winter coats shoulda been a giveaway

[Ty Down]

I'm thinking of hitting playas des estes on the weekend during my Nov trip.

As well as getting a mild tan I'd like to bump into a willing chica and spend the pm getting my pinga polished.

Is there any particular part of the town or beach I should choose? I've had food at a beachside restaurante ranchon don pepe but the beach was pretty deserted a couple of years ago.

Am I in right area for this, I guess weekends is higher beach body count?

Is there a centre or bar I can hang out in?

Will the local chicas have a place we can go to for a quickie?

Don't want to reside overnight, I'll return to vedado in the pm, unless I'm missing some unreal evening entertainment. If members know of any please share details.

I visited Playa del este back in February, it was pretty much dead. Beautiful beach though, there was a couple chicas walking around but also several police, most were wearing plain clothes but it was obvious that they were watching every move we made, and every move the chicas made. It sucked.

[Mondo707]

Does anyone know of websites that stays current on upcoming musical shows etc in Havana. Thanks so much in advance for any help.

Hey Tony,

I usually check out la Papeleta (link below) they seem to list lots of cultural stuff / activities. It's en Español but you can prolly understand most of it.

http://www.lapapeleta.cult.cu/

Also, if you are fluent en Español, Radio Taino on the web gives out all the daily happenings around la Habana and in some cases around the island. I think they usually announce these on the hour. Link below.

http://www.radiotaino.icrt.cu/web/site/audiodemanda

You are welcome.

Mondo.

[TonyLemor]

Does anyone know of websites that stays current on upcoming musical shows etc in Havana. Thanks so much in advance for any help.

[DarrenGap]

I'm thinking of hitting playas des estes on the weekend during my Nov trip.

As well as getting a mild tan I'd like to bump into a willing chica and spend the pm getting my pinga polished.

Is there any particular part of the town or beach I should choose? I've had food at a beachside restaurante ranchon don pepe but the beach was pretty deserted a couple of years ago.

Am I in right area for this, I guess weekends is higher beach body count?

Is there a centre or bar I can hang out in?

Will the local chicas have a place we can go to for a quickie?

Don't want to reside overnight, I'll return to vedado in the pm, unless I'm missing some unreal evening entertainment. If members know of any please share details.

[MadisonGuy]

That is where the point is missed. One guy thinks he is paying for a Ferrari, when he is actually paying Ferrari prices for the Ford Festiva. Nobody in here believes that he or the next guy will go broke paying $40 more than he should, but why do it?

If you went into a steak restaurant and the guy next to you is eating a ribeye and you ask how much it was and he says $30, you then ask for a menu and in it the 30 is crossed out and has 50 next to it, surely you are not going to say it is only $20 and I only have an hour for lunch. You are going to ask why is the 30 crossed out? This guy next to me just said he paid 30 and in this menu the 30 is crossed out and you have put 50.

For some reason people seem to get offended when someone tells them they could or should get the same pussy for less. I was in Cambodia in February. My buddy fucked a chick for $40. I asked him why he gave her so much. To prove a point, the next day I fucked the same chick and gave her $25. He did not say he bought a Ferrari and I bought a Festiva. He did not say well it is my money and I spend it how I want to. He did not say I am only here 3 days and it is only $15. What he did was the next day he got the same chick again for the $25 that he should have given her the first day!

The steak might be a little closer, but here's the thing I'm not asking what the rate is to the guy next to me at a steak house. Just like I'm not coming on here anymore asking what going rates are because I don't care. If I want something I know how much I will pay for it, doesn't matter what others pay for it. I certainly would not get mad or offended if someone got the same girl for less money. I was giving out coach and MK purses that costed 2-400 last trip to DR, I didn't need to do it. I wasn't doing it to get better service, in fact one girl I used that line on because I saw someone on here say they did it. I gave her the you make this night stellar and you will get this, well 30 minutes later I decided that was kind of stupid and just gave it to her. I enjoy the look on their faces, just like when I go to the villages and give the kids toys and candy. It's giving someone something that is way beyond what they think they would ever get. I had a 5 some in Sosua and 3 of the girls were only 2000 but it was such a blast I gave them more than that in a tip. I don't expect more, I just enjoy giving I guess and don't think guys who don't want to worry about price should feel they need to negotiate. PLenty of people don't negotiate in life, that's part of my job and I certainly don't want to do it on vacation.

[DarrenGap]

That is where the point is missed. One guy thinks he is paying for a Ferrari, when he is actually paying Ferrari prices for the Ford Festiva. Nobody in here believes that he or the next guy will go broke paying $40 more than he should, but why do it?

If you went into a steak restaurant and the guy next to you is eating a ribeye and you ask how much it was and he says $30, you then ask for a menu and in it the 30 is crossed out and has 50 next to it, surely you are not going to say it is only $20 and I only have an hour for lunch. You are going to ask why is the 30 crossed out? This guy next to me just said he paid 30 and in this menu the 30 is crossed out and you have put 50.

For some reason people seem to get offended when someone tells them they could or should get the same pussy for less. I was in Cambodia in February. My buddy fucked a chick for $40. I asked him why he gave her so much. To prove a point, the next day I fucked the same chick and gave her $25. He did not say he bought a Ferrari and I bought a Festiva. He did not say well it is my money and I spend it how I want to. He did not say I am only here 3 days and it is only $15. What he did was the next day he got the same chick again for the $25 that he should have given her the first day!

Lets move on from the car analogy. It doesn't make much sense to me (although I hope someone's Mom didn't pay $9000 too much).

Some folks think they buy chica affection & performance in a linear manner, the more they pay, the more they get. Quite simply it doesn't and they don't. The girl will have a rate she's happy to accept she may ask $100 accept $60. Paying over that point won't really buy anything other than making the girl think you're a mark. When they pitch high, they're actually asking "Are you a rube, do you know what the market price is, are you likely to give me $100's dollars above what I actually expect? They may put out a price after they; ve asked how long you've been in the country translation: "how much do you know? Where are you staying? Translation: if its an expensive hotel, then the price quoted goes waaay up.

She's on a mission with a desire to earn a certain amount. Friendly negotiation helps identify what that price is. And we shouldn't push past that price downwards, that's where the bad blood comes from. Taking advantage of these girls in their eyes (in this context) is paying too little. Plus the negotiations should give the keen eyed monger an indicator on her attitude and outlook.

Good service should be rewarded with a tip or gift etc.

Of course I'm referring to the p4 p workers here, not civilians. Different rules apply.

So having said all that for clarity where are the most expensive joints in Havana and where do the girls go when the night is over there assuming MadisonGuy wasn't there "making it rain".

[Mr Enternational]

You guys are comparing cars for thousands to girls for 30-100. And also lots of guys here are happy for their $30 ford festiva and I am willing to pay for my Ferrari.

That is where the point is missed. One guy thinks he is paying for a Ferrari, when he is actually paying Ferrari prices for the Ford Festiva. Nobody in here believes that he or the next guy will go broke paying $40 more than he should, but why do it?

If you went into a steak restaurant and the guy next to you is eating a ribeye and you ask how much it was and he says $30, you then ask for a menu and in it the 30 is crossed out and has 50 next to it, surely you are not going to say it is only $20 and I only have an hour for lunch. You are going to ask why is the 30 crossed out? This guy next to me just said he paid 30 and in this menu the 30 is crossed out and you have put 50.

For some reason people seem to get offended when someone tells them they could or should get the same pussy for less. I was in Cambodia in February. My buddy fucked a chick for $40. I asked him why he gave her so much. To prove a point, the next day I fucked the same chick and gave her $25. He did not say he bought a Ferrari and I bought a Festiva. He did not say well it is my money and I spend it how I want to. He did not say I am only here 3 days and it is only $15. What he did was the next day he got the same chick again for the $25 that he should have given her the first day!

[DcGogo]

I could care less about performance in the bed, I just want super hot classy high end girls.

That statement right there.

That's like a car collector that has a hangar full of classic and high-end cars and you ask him do you ever drive them and he says "hell I don't even know if they have engines".

[MadisonGuy]

You guys are comparing cars for thousands to girls for 30-100. And also lots of guys here are happy for their $30 ford festiva and I am willing to pay for my Ferrari. Although that analogy leaves some opening because one car performs better. I could care less about performance in the bed, I just want super hot classy high end girls. I don't really notice a difference between negotiating and not, except in their face during negotiation. But it's not worth the time to save such a small amount of money, I've lost too many super hot girls and over money that I'd basically wipe my ass with. Some guys will negotiate and some guys won't, that's part of the trade. The income levels in this group probably range from 40 k a year to over a million, you can't expect some guy pulling in crazy money to care about an extra $50. More power to the girls for making the most they can with each person. I've got far more money invested in things I'm giving away to kids and the community in Cuba than I will spend on girls there. Maybe instead of worrying about the guys who you think might be ruining it, just make more money so you don't care if a girl costs 20 or 400 dollars. Super easy solution and everyone wins.

[RacShack]

Bla bla bla, has any one answer op questions, always same shit, a lot of bullshit and not one person ever help anybody out!,so glad my eyes finally opened up and seen their is actually sites out their that actually help each other out; not the same 5-10 people that do nothing for anybody!

[NamasteParis]

Well I approach P4P the exact same way. My mom was buying a car. I looked up how much the car she wanted was going for IN THE SAME AREA. I was not going to think about and look up prices in California. That is irrelevant when Georgia is concerned. I told her to go check out the particular car and bring a check with her. When it comes time to discuss price, you offer them a check for $1000 less than what I looked up.

When I go somewhere for P4P for the first time, I look on ISG to see what the chicks are going for. I don't think about what they are going for back home. That shit is irrelevant. When I get on the scene and find the chick I want, I will offer them less than what I see people on ISG reporting. Then I report that I got a chick there for a lower price or without buying drinks, or had no problem paying after, and everyone wants to assert that I got an inferior chick. LOL. No mf, I just do my homework and know how to negotiate. I am not running up there trying to pay more than I have to because of how much I like a hooker or because of how much something costs in another place. And I am most definitely not trying to impress any hookers or women in general for that matter. My attitude is that they should be trying to impress me.

You go to the dealer and make him show you why you should buy from him versus the dealer down the street. You don't go to the dealer trying to impress them and butter them up like a lot of guys insist on doing with hookers. That just goes over my head.

May I add some comment you just made in another forum? Common sense. Oh well.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2236476