Havana

[Rebel Monger]

The casa owners have no problem with you bringing chicas over to visit or even overnight as long as you register them. But they are in serious trouble if an unregistered guest (chica) is found inside their casa. The problem is that the chicas do NOT want to be registered. If their name shows up more than a few times in these registers (which are monitored by the government) they are thought to be selling sexual services. And that's not allowed.

In a country where surveillance is number one priority the government knows what everybody is doing, and you can be sure that they have plenty of pictures and videos of what the gringos are doing in Cuba. They know who the putas are, the registration "thing" is more to control the "casa" owner than to know who is going to the casa. Do you know that the owner can even lose the house if they don't comply with the regulations?

[Rebel Monger]

Just fly from Miami. You will be asked your reason for travel. If I know you (and I do LOL) you are probably going there to support the people of Cuba.

Right now it's hard to find an available seat to Cuba (and out of Cuba). Cubans (living out of Cuba) are buying tickets at any price, and Cubans (living in the island) are paying over $3,000 for a plane ticket that would get them to Nicaragua!

[Lucky Nuts]

Flying from where in USA? I've been several times but always through the Bahamas from Fort Lauderdale, what to fly from here if possible.

Any information will be appreciated!

Just fly from Miami. You will be asked your reason for travel. If I know you (and I do LOL) you are probably going there to support the people of Cuba.

[Lucky Nuts]

When they say that guests have to be registered I wonder what that means. When I stayed in a casa particulare a few years back they said they had to register anyone I brought in, but not the same as being registered as a co-guest. Might need clarification..

The casa owners have no problem with you bringing chicas over to visit or even overnight as long as you register them. But they are in serious trouble if an unregistered guest (chica) is found inside their casa. The problem is that the chicas do NOT want to be registered. If their name shows up more than a few times in these registers (which are monitored by the government) they are thought to be selling sexual services. And that's not allowed.

[Rebel Monger]

I am Cuban by birth and have plenty of family and friends there, it could be very convenient for me to go there, see my family and monger but I don't for the same reason you stated. Since I left the island, I've only been back once, that was more than enough for me. Cuba is not worthy and if I wanted to be with a Cuban woman, we have plenty of them in Miami and elsewhere.

I heard that when "Cuba" first opened up, the ladies were cheap and compliant but as you know, once stupid mongers start to go to any place, quality and service goes down.

Since 2015 I only travel to the Dominican Republic were I have a relationship with a regular woman.

I agree, I am not afraid of tough environments, I have plied my trade in the rough ends of places from Riga to Jakarta, and had fun in them all, even though frequently I didn't speak a word of the local lingo. I still recall with fondness the night I spent in long impassioned conversation with two stunning girls in Yangon, even though neither I nor they could speak each other's language, what we discussed I have no idea but it all ended up advantageous for all concerned.

In the early 2000's I had reason to frequently visit North America and the first time having heard so much about Cuba I scheduled a visit, I learned Spanish in school and can get by. I stayed in the Hotel Nacional, and given that these were the days before ISG I was shocked to discover that I couldn't bring guests back. Really, I am an adult in my 30's, staying in a supposedly five-star hotel and I am being treated like I am back in my college dorm? All the white-jacketed waiters and mojitos on the lawn don't make up for that indignity. Hey-ho I went to the Commodore (is that the name?) and was impressed by what was on offer, less impressed by the arrangement of how to get what I wanted, waking up some poor family at 1 am so that they could rent me a bedroom in their shabby apartment.

Lesson learned, next visit I rented my own apartment, pretty grim, but I kind of got what I wanted, but on the whole it was rushed and impersonal. None of this hot Latina passion they tell me about.

Giving it one last bash a year later, I did both, stayed at the Nacional and rented an apartment (I am not stingy with the cash when I know what I want). Sheesh, things had got even worse. The Commodore had closed, I met two nice chicas, so I thought, on the Malecon, we got chatting they asked for some cash, sure I am a generous guy and gave them a few dollars and asked them to accompany me to the apartment where they could earn some more. I was told to * off and they wandered away with their measly handful of dollars.

That night I met a "young" lady with slightly faded looks but who still had the body of the dancer that she once was. We had a couple of drinks and she agreed to accompany me back to my place. Back there, she proceeded to take out some crystal meth, which she began to grind on the metal kitchen table. Under the bare bulb hanging from the ceiling I could see she was a lot older and more careworn than she appeared in the bar, that combined with the thought of a raid by the cops (perhaps she worked with them) to arrest the gringo with drugs, I paid her off and showed her the door. I went back to the hotel and settled for a mojito on the lawn.

I never felt the need or desire to return to Cuba again. Sure, the regulars will post about how us lily-livered sex tourists don't know how to find real Cubanas, how we need to put the effort in, how we have to go here, do this, say that, and then we'll get all the passionate sex we want.

Yeah, whatever, there's the whole of the rest of Latin America and Asia awaiting me with none of that shit and hassle. Good luck to the long-term residents, enjoy living in a clapped-out country where toilet paper is a luxury but the girls still get to be so picky. The rest of us have a whole world out there and we don't need that sort of dicking around.

[Huacho]

I know latam from the 4 years I have been here so I speak with authority that Cuba is worth the challenge if you are up to it.

But have you been anywhere else in LatAm? I live in Guatemala and can get everything you people talk about in Cuba and there is plenty of toilet paper, I don't have to lie about why I am here, there is food on the shelves in the grocery store, and so forth. And it's not ridiculously hot.

[Zeos1]

Hi all.

I've read through the last 100 pages of posts here. I've also looked at the licence requirements to travel from the US and I'm comfortable that I'll have an itinerary that will satisfy the "support for the Cuban people" category.

So. I'm travelling to Havana in May! This will be my second trip. My first trip was in 2010 and was purely non-mongering related (I didn't even know what a monger was at that point). This trip is also not monger-centric. I am travelling with no expectation of meeting a chica. But if I were to find a novia for my trip, it wouldn't be unwelcome.

A few questions:

Is anyone here likely to be in Havana during the last 2 weeks in May? It would be great to meet up for some company.

Would anyone be willing to share any casa particular (entire place) recommendations that are guest friendly? I've been searching airbnb and I have a few shortlisted that don't have any strict rules, but having contacted them, they have all said that guests need to register. I get that response. But hoping to find someone friendly who won't mind one, two maybe three guests during different points on my trip.

Does anyone have good contacts with a huster or two who I can perhaps chat / meet with to show me some of the better clubs and / or chicas? I'll only be there for 5 days and a lot of the daytime will be activities which will be "supporting the Cuban people" so my actual downtime will be limited. It woudl be good to get a head start in terms of connecting with one or two guys who can help facilitate a pleasant downtime.

Thanks all.

When they say that guests have to be registered I wonder what that means. When I stayed in a casa particulare a few years back they said they had to register anyone I brought in, but not the same as being registered as a co-guest. Might need clarification. It also could be an airbnb thing, I'm not sure how they operate in Cuba. I know that the casa particulares all had to be government licensed before they could display the little symbol for a casa particular, and their fees were also regulated. I'm assuming airbnb has to fall under that system as well. But I don't know for sure.

[FlagRunner77]

Hi all.

I've read through the last 100 pages of posts here. I've also looked at the licence requirements to travel from the US and I'm comfortable that I'll have an itinerary that will satisfy the "support for the Cuban people" category.

So. I'm travelling to Havana in May! This will be my second trip. My first trip was in 2010 and was purely non-mongering related (I didn't even know what a monger was at that point). This trip is also not monger-centric. I am travelling with no expectation of meeting a chica. But if I were to find a novia for my trip, it wouldn't be unwelcome.

A few questions:

Is anyone here likely to be in Havana during the last 2 weeks in May? It would be great to meet up for some company.

Would anyone be willing to share any casa particular (entire place) recommendations that are guest friendly? I've been searching airbnb and I have a few shortlisted that don't have any strict rules, but having contacted them, they have all said that guests need to register. I get that response. But hoping to find someone friendly who won't mind one, two maybe three guests during different points on my trip.

Does anyone have good contacts with a huster or two who I can perhaps chat / meet with to show me some of the better clubs and / or chicas? I'll only be there for 5 days and a lot of the daytime will be activities which will be "supporting the Cuban people" so my actual downtime will be limited. It woudl be good to get a head start in terms of connecting with one or two guys who can help facilitate a pleasant downtime.

Thanks all.

[RacShack]

I just came back from Havana on Monday no issues at all. This is like my 20th trip down in the last 5 years. No real questions asked when I arrived in the us they said why did I go an I said to visit a family friend that was it.

Flying from where in USA? I've been several times but always through the Bahamas from Fort Lauderdale, what to fly from here if possible.

Any information will be appreciated!

[Hilo77]

I have lived in five LatAm countries and I come on this thread and all I can say is WTF. Why go to Cuba when you have so many other alternatives where toothpaste is available and commercial sex is legal? I fucked a Cubana in Buenos Aires and she was a dead fish, and a drunk. Obviously that is a sample size of one, but is the pussy there really worth putting up with all kinds of bullshit? It just sounds like a lot of hassle for no real reason.

I agree, I am not afraid of tough environments, I have plied my trade in the rough ends of places from Riga to Jakarta, and had fun in them all, even though frequently I didn't speak a word of the local lingo. I still recall with fondness the night I spent in long impassioned conversation with two stunning girls in Yangon, even though neither I nor they could speak each other's language, what we discussed I have no idea but it all ended up advantageous for all concerned.

In the early 2000's I had reason to frequently visit North America and the first time having heard so much about Cuba I scheduled a visit, I learned Spanish in school and can get by. I stayed in the Hotel Nacional, and given that these were the days before ISG I was shocked to discover that I couldn't bring guests back. Really, I am an adult in my 30's, staying in a supposedly five-star hotel and I am being treated like I am back in my college dorm? All the white-jacketed waiters and mojitos on the lawn don't make up for that indignity. Hey-ho I went to the Commodore (is that the name?) and was impressed by what was on offer, less impressed by the arrangement of how to get what I wanted, waking up some poor family at 1 am so that they could rent me a bedroom in their shabby apartment.

Lesson learned, next visit I rented my own apartment, pretty grim, but I kind of got what I wanted, but on the whole it was rushed and impersonal. None of this hot Latina passion they tell me about.

Giving it one last bash a year later, I did both, stayed at the Nacional and rented an apartment (I am not stingy with the cash when I know what I want). Sheesh, things had got even worse. The Commodore had closed, I met two nice chicas, so I thought, on the Malecon, we got chatting they asked for some cash, sure I am a generous guy and gave them a few dollars and asked them to accompany me to the apartment where they could earn some more. I was told to * off and they wandered away with their measly handful of dollars.

That night I met a "young" lady with slightly faded looks but who still had the body of the dancer that she once was. We had a couple of drinks and she agreed to accompany me back to my place. Back there, she proceeded to take out some crystal meth, which she began to grind on the metal kitchen table. Under the bare bulb hanging from the ceiling I could see she was a lot older and more careworn than she appeared in the bar, that combined with the thought of a raid by the cops (perhaps she worked with them) to arrest the gringo with drugs, I paid her off and showed her the door. I went back to the hotel and settled for a mojito on the lawn.

I never felt the need or desire to return to Cuba again. Sure, the regulars will post about how us lily-livered sex tourists don't know how to find real Cubanas, how we need to put the effort in, how we have to go here, do this, say that, and then we'll get all the passionate sex we want.

Yeah, whatever, there's the whole of the rest of Latin America and Asia awaiting me with none of that shit and hassle. Good luck to the long-term residents, enjoy living in a clapped-out country where toilet paper is a luxury but the girls still get to be so picky. The rest of us have a whole world out there and we don't need that sort of dicking around.

[Travel610]

I just came back from Havana on Monday no issues at all. This is like my 20th trip down in the last 5 years. No real questions asked when I arrived in the us they said why did I go an I said to visit a family friend that was it.

[Chris H]

Does anyone here travel from the US under the "support for the cuban people" licence? Just wondering what, if anything, you do to make sure you fulful that requirement if asked? I plan to stay at an airbnb and take some dance classes and eat at paladares. My complicating factor is that I'm not a US citizen but need to fly back into the US to get my independently-booked flight back to Canada.

I have been to Havana 16 times, and have always used the Support the Cuban People for my reason for travel to Cuba, and never had any issues or questions from anyone including authorities.

[FlagRunner77]

Does anyone here travel from the US under the "support for the cuban people" licence? Just wondering what, if anything, you do to make sure you fulful that requirement if asked? I plan to stay at an airbnb and take some dance classes and eat at paladares. My complicating factor is that I'm not a US citizen but need to fly back into the US to get my independently-booked flight back to Canada.

[DiavelLoco]

Cuba is a bit rough for comfort seekers. But the girls are GOLDEN!

P. s: How difficult is it now for Americans to pay for daily expenses there? Any fellow americanos out there since the new payment system has been deployed?

You can pay with your dollars or change them on the street. Don't worry!

[BrasilSoccer0]

Cuba is a bit rough for comfort seekers. But the girls are GOLDEN!

That said, I never liked Havana. I enjoy our hobby in 2nd tier towns and provinces. Things are more relaxed there than Havana including girls vs cops.

I get mistaken for a Cuban / Latino so I don't attract much attention. Sometimes the chicas don't realize I'm a foreigner until I'm engaging them! And I'm fluent in conversational Spanish. So if you don't know how to order food comfortably in spanish it will detract from enjoying Cuba.

Things I miss about Cuba:

1- Cigars.

2- 25 cents cheese pizza. LOL.

3- College students especially from other towns living in the dorms.

4- Son cubano in Santiago.

5- Buying eggs in the blk market. LOL.

6- Hunting fresh province chicas arriving at the train station in Camagüey!

I really think Cuba should not be your first destination especially with little Spanish. Hit a few other Spanish speaking spots like DR, PERU, Colombia. Etc then you'll be ready and appreciate the GOLD!

P. s: How difficult is it now for Americans to pay for daily expenses there? Any fellow americanos out there since the new payment system has been deployed?