Havana

[JinaWrangler]

Interesting, you have no fear of being mugged walking around at night? Even some of the Cubanas I talk to say they fear Havana at night. I'm not a generally fearful person, but I do believe in situational awareness. In the US I (legally) carry a gun, but I still avoid bad areas at night. One can legally carry a knife in Cuba BTW, but best case scenario, "I won a knife fight with a mugger in Cuba? Yikes. Fortunately, I am going in January (was going to PM you but I am out of anon BTC to get a membership), so it will be much cooler (than my August trip) and I can explore more during the day. As for evenings, that's what cabs are for IMO, but YMMV.

But never apologize for having fun. My first trip 20 years ago I went to Floridita (good place for a daiquiri) and Bodeguita del Medio (I bought a souvenir lighter there that still works!) But I am not looking to hang with tourists, and there are so many other bars that aren't tourist traps. I really hope the Art Factory is open, because I didn't make it last trip.

One thing I have noticed, people are fleeing Cuba in droves, and it is a lot easier now as they can go via Central America. Like 5% of the population has fled recently due to the atrocious economic conditions (even by communist standards). Several of the ladies I have chatted with (and are contacts in my WhatsApp) have left to other counties, or are talking about doing so. So yeah while the current US admin might be great for us to travel to Cuba, it's also great for Cubans to travel here due to essentially wide open borders and zero enforcement or repatriation. You've heard of a brain drain? Well there seems to be a hottie drain.

One more point. There's always the guy on these forums who tells us how to spend our money ("don't overpay like some Spaniard!) Sorry / not sorry to the poors, but you get what you pay for, and I can afford it. As if you get respect for yourself by being cheap as hell with people desperate for money? Get real! I live like a boss there and pay and tip well, so I have girls desperate for me to return.

Anyone else going in January?

I just got back from a four-night trip to Havana on Monday. I was my first time in Cuba and I traveled solo direct through Miami. I do speak (adult learned and not perfect but good) Spanish.

I had a great time. I didn't find it that much more primitive third world than say Colombia. There were no lights on the streets and lots of huge potholes, smog and noise but there lots of great bars and restaurants. I've seen people here disparage the "tourist traps" like the Floridita and Bodeguita del Medio but I had a great time at those places. The drinks are excellent and great Cuban music. Both were Hemingway hangouts and are full of international tourists. Being an American myself I can say this tourist places where there are not many Americans are a lot less obnoxious LOL.

A quick comment to the question as to whether it would be easier to fly through a third country vs. Using the "support of the Cuban people" exemption and flying direct. The entire extent of the inquiry into my using that category of exemption was the American Airlines counter person asking which exemption I was flying under. It never came up again at any point in the traveling. I put together a minimal journal and had it with me, but no one ever asked. The only thing the US immigration person asked was whether I had any alcohol or tobacco products. On the Cuban side they looked at my passport, visa and health print out, didn't stamp anything and said welcome to Cuba. I think it's safe to say at least in my experience no one on either side gives a $hit that you are going to Cuba.

Another thing that comes up all the time is whether the casa Airbnb will allow visitors. I got one that was listed as "entire apartment for your use" and in the rules only said one guest at a time. I had no problem at all. The owner and the host person wasn't around and the neighbors didn't care. On Sunday night a girl had to step over some neighbors on the front step to come up and no one cared or was surprised at all.

The host set me up with a SIM card and took me to someone's house to change dollars at 255. I changed $600 and honestly it was too much. I couldn't find ways to spend that much in four days even including the girls.

Yea so the girls. Absolutely super high quality. Walking through parque central or san Rafael anytime after dark there are tons of super beautiful girls of all types. I did not see even one police person. I'm sure they are there but I didn't see them. The fact that it's so dark everywhere makes it easier. My experience was you can talk to them without a problem. On my second night a totally sweet little 18 yo approached me in parque central before I even got rolling. She already had her identification out LOL. She had a big unattractive friend who stayed back. Without me even asking she said $20 US. We sealed that with a DFK right there and just gave her my address and said stop by in an hour. Pretty much wifed up after that. Once I had her in the light she was almost flawless with only a couple of small tattoos and tiny bit of smoker's breath. She was my perfect right off the farm type. She didn't know how to handle herself so just treated me like any boyfriend. I have had black girls before but always sort of quickies never really got to luxuriate over one. Wow that skin was something I will remember. I brought some Victoria secrets things and that sent her into another level. Suddenly wanted photos and videos. She actually wanted to wear one of the cute little things home and I had to tell her she couldn't wear that on the street LOL. Needless to say I was a lot more generous than $20.

Yea it was a great trip.

[WanderingMan]

I planned a trip to Havana in early February for three days after reading the posts over the last 12 months. Several potential countries were considered, and thanks to ISG members, Cuba emerged at the top of the list due to things such as easy access, quick flights, and relative safety.

Based upon ISG postings and recommendations, planning included:

1. Renting an AirBnB in Old Havana where the landlord offers "the entire space" instead of living in the home. The owner does NOT live in the same building and there are only a couple of units in the rental building. I realize the AirBnB route costs more, but fortunately I am not on a super-tight budget where $80-$100 a night seems overly expensive.

2. Finding a landlord who will exchange money, provide transport to and from the airport, and provide a local phone and WiFi.

3. Finding a location not too far but not in the middle of the attractions and evening festivities. It's near Habana and Pena Pobre, a bit north but walkable.

4. Registering with Badoo via the computer and said I am in Old Habana, and will have to wait to see how that goes. Right now, Badoo only matched with older women. Apparently there is a skill involved in finding younger pros on the program. That said, I am selective and chose not to "like" the majority of younger women who have huge tattoos. I simply don't find huge tattoos attractive.

5. Installed Badoo on the cellular phone.

6. Have made a list of things to bring such as toiletries, over-the-counter medications, protection, snacks, etc.

7. Will bring smaller bills in US currency. This is different from other destinations such as Thailand and the Dominican Republic.

Thanks again, and if you see anything missed in preparation, please offer your recommendations.

[TravelerXX]

Tremendous report! I know Havana pretty well but do not know V&S bar, It sounds like a haven.

Can you say more? Are akk nights lively? Hopppin by 1 amm you say? Can you negotiate with the ladies across the street? REALLY point and click? I love Cuba bur have not seen pt. And clock since the early 2000's.

Just want to know more as you ave me prettye excited to check it out!

San Rafael Blvd (from Parque Central to Parque Fe de Valle) is the most obvious place to start. You will see hookers dressed up like sluts, but usually not soliciting at any time of day and until at least 2 am. The girls are young and good looking. Mostly black with banging bodies, but there are some lighter skinned Latinas too. I saw one that I liked at about 8 pm on a Saturday. She was light-skinned and a tough negotiator. I paid $60 for an hour and the privilege of shooting my jizz on her face. She was really hot and she knew it. She initially offered $100, I countered with $50. She said $60, and I said only if I get to cum on your face. She agreed and told me she would follow me from a distance to my place. Service was awesome. Got to fuck her in lots of positions before unloading on her face. Worth we'll over $60 to me.

V&S Club: it's on Galliano in between Concordia and Virtudes. The location on google is incorrect. This place is point and click. No rooms on-site. Probably 3 or 4 times as many girls as guys. On a crowded night there were probably 40 chicas. On a slow night there were 20. At 10 pm the club is dead. It is rocking at 1 am. The street girls congregate here and at a restaurant across the street. You won't miss them. I found a light Latina that I thought was sexy and began negotiations. I told her I wanted her the whole night, and she offered $70. I asked in pesos, and she said 20 k ($74 at 270:1). I countered with 12 k, and we agreed to 15 k ($55 for the whole night). We taxi'the back to my place and she blew my fucking mind. Right up there with the best sex I've ever had with a hooker. The Lloyd lyric "but she fuck me like she Cuban" was all starting to make sense. And she was so sweet. It's a good thing I don't speak Spanish, because this girl would have convinced me to marry her on my vacation to Cuba. I have mongered in lots of places and know that hookers are excellent manipulators, but the girls in Cuba are on a different level, and it feels good not going to lie. I fucked her a few more times in the morning and then got breakfast with her.

Cuban Art Factory: Saw lots of good looking girls, but wasn't sure who was a pro or who was a tourist. If someone could provide a guide for this place, it'the be helpful.

Malecon: was dead. Was told it's always dead in the winter.

Overall thoughts: Cuba is not the best place I have mongered, but it's not bad. I didn't think the chicas were as hot as in Brazil or Colombia, but I do think Cuban girls have the prettiest faces in the entire world. Cubana eyes do it for me. And there are plenty of thin young girls with Cuban eyes in Cuba. And it's affordable. The country itself sucks to visit right now hard to find good food, American cards don't work, and generally everything is harder in Cuba than in other, better known countries for mongering. But the mongering is still good, bordering on great, depending on what you're looking for.

[MadMax9336]

I don't want to post publicly because I don't want to get her in any trouble. Send a PM and I'm happy to share. Yeah agreed that Spanish would be helpful in negotiating. I'm still curious when the last time you paid 3-5 k was? Based on reading the forum it sounds like $50 for an overnight is pretty standard. I paid $55 with no extras, just BBBJ which is maybe standard anyway? And I paid $60 for ST with a facial. Too much? Yeah probably for a local, but I doubt it was way too much as you're implying. 3 k is less than $12. You can find a super ugly hooker for that I'm sure, but not a stunner.

I visited to Cuba 5 times so far. The first time is back in 2013 where I used to pay $20 for whole night and most of the time bareback depends on the chics I get (mostly in small towns near holguin).

The last visit is 2 months back and ended up paying $50 whole night again. Repeated two nights straight because of the service and decent looking and good body.

If I would spoken spanish, I would have scored much better locals (restaurent waitresses and shop keepers).

Send me PM and will share the pics which you can compare if we both paid similar prices and similar quality chics.

BTW. The chica I repeated twice stays outside of havana and not a regular ST. Hence I felt its worth $50 for each day and night.

[Ballin69]

Like you said you don't speak Spanish and I m fluent. It means I can pick up girls at daytime and you can't. The same girls you see in the club at night. You can meet them at daytime if you know where to look. Of course in the club they will always ask for more but they are the same girls so it s not because you can't get them at this price that other people can't.

But you said you paid 60 $ for a street girl for ST.

Just show us how she looks like I m curious.

I don't want to post publicly because I don't want to get her in any trouble. Send a PM and I'm happy to share. Yeah agreed that Spanish would be helpful in negotiating. I'm still curious when the last time you paid 3-5 k was? Based on reading the forum it sounds like $50 for an overnight is pretty standard. I paid $55 with no extras, just BBBJ which is maybe standard anyway? And I paid $60 for ST with a facial. Too much? Yeah probably for a local, but I doubt it was way too much as you're implying. 3 k is less than $12. You can find a super ugly hooker for that I'm sure, but not a stunner.

[AmericanPi]

Like you said you don't speak Spanish and I m fluent. It means I can pick up girls at daytime and you can't. The same girls you see in the club at night. You can meet them at daytime if you know where to look.

I also speak Spanish and I'm quite chatty. Where would I go to strike up some daytime game?

[Muzungufotsy]

When did you last pay 3 k for an overnight? The Cuban peso is spiraling out of control right now. Also, I was not interested in the average street girl. Only the hottest ones. A girl who isn't struggling to garner interest isn't going to accept $12 for the whole night when there is a street full of tourists taking peeks at her outfit. I'm not a beginner when it comes to negotiating, but I'm sure my Spanish did cost me extra. You can for sure get an average street girl for under $40, but it depends what you want. To each his own.

Like you said you don't speak Spanish and I m fluent. It means I can pick up girls at daytime and you can't. The same girls you see in the club at night. You can meet them at daytime if you know where to look. Of course in the club they will always ask for more but they are the same girls so it s not because you can't get them at this price that other people can't.

But you said you paid 60 $ for a street girl for ST.

Just show us how she looks like I m curious.

[Questner]

My phone is struggling with that map. Let me try to send a google pin of where it was. https://maps.app.goo.gl/VaWaGJtEPM54e5dQ8?g_st=ic.

It's across the street from Kumba King. A lot of hookers hang out in Kumba King and just outside of it too.

Same, same. Don't copy the link, but right click with a mouse and choose 'copy link', this leads to Galliano area which is known for years. My point was to use openstreetmaps vs google maps.

[AmericanPi]

San Rafael was pros and tourists. Only good pick up place I went to was the art factory. I'm sure there are others, but my Spanish was not enough where it would be worth it for me.

I've been to Fabrica de Arte. Loved it. It's simply amazing.

Do you know any daytime places to score civvy girls if not San Rafael? Last time I went to malecóand it was dead. Considering just posting up near the university honestly.

[Mondo707]

Gents a question if anyone knows. I have reservations at some pretty upscale paladares. Was hoping to meet some Cuban honeys and invite them for dinners.

But then I read in some places that it's really discouraged for Cubans to hang with tourists, and police will hassle them.

Does this make taking a local to a paladar hard?

Other than some looks from someone there, I'd not worry about it.

One of the things people in Cuba love is eating out, but since most of them don't have the means ($$$'s) to do this, it makes it hard for them to eat out.

I do this every time I go. You'll score plenty of points by doing it.

Mondo.

[Ballin69]

Great report. Can I ask, was San Rafael all pros? If a man were looking for where civvies congregate, and he spoke Spanish, where could that man go?

San Rafael was pros and tourists. Only good pick up place I went to was the art factory. I'm sure there are others, but my Spanish was not enough where it would be worth it for me.

[Ballin69]

Like you said Cuba is a shit place to go at this time people are desesperate and some guys still spoil the girls like they were living in Spain. Even in Europe I would pay less for a latina than what you paid for a street working girl. These days you can get them for 5 k or even 3 k for the night but of course you have to know how to handle them you don't ask them how much they want you tell them how much you pay period. If a girl was quoting me 100 $ I would laugh and tell her to get lost. Some people don't respect themselves here. Learn Spanish and how to bargain or stay home please.

When did you last pay 3 k for an overnight? The Cuban peso is spiraling out of control right now. Also, I was not interested in the average street girl. Only the hottest ones. A girl who isn't struggling to garner interest isn't going to accept $12 for the whole night when there is a street full of tourists taking peeks at her outfit. I'm not a beginner when it comes to negotiating, but I'm sure my Spanish did cost me extra. You can for sure get an average street girl for under $40, but it depends what you want. To each his own.

[AmericanPi]

Like you said Cuba is a shit place to go at this time people are desesperate and some guys still spoil the girls like they were living in Spain. Even in Europe I would pay less for a latina than what you paid for a street working girl. These days you can get them for 5 k or even 3 k for the night but of course you have to know how to handle them you don't ask them how much they want you tell them how much you pay period. If a girl was quoting me 100 $ I would laugh and tell her to get lost. Some people don't respect themselves here. Learn Spanish and how to bargain or stay home please.

I'm confused. It's a shit place to go because of what? It seems like you're insinuating there are girls who can be had cheap for the asking. What's shit about Havana now?

[Muzungufotsy]

Like you said Cuba is a shit place to go at this time people are desesperate and some guys still spoil the girls like they were living in Spain. Even in Europe I would pay less for a latina than what you paid for a street working girl. These days you can get them for 5 k or even 3 k for the night but of course you have to know how to handle them you don't ask them how much they want you tell them how much you pay period. If a girl was quoting me 100 $ I would laugh and tell her to get lost. Some people don't respect themselves here. Learn Spanish and how to bargain or stay home please.

[Ballin69]

V&S Club:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/search...0havana%20cuba#map=19/23. 13873/-82.36325.

My phone is struggling with that map. Let me try to send a google pin of where it was. https://maps.app.goo.gl/VaWaGJtEPM54e5dQ8?g_st=ic.

It's across the street from Kumba King. A lot of hookers hang out in Kumba King and just outside of it too.