Havana

[Muzungufotsy]

I want to go, but would like to hear from some people that have been lately. I understand the 3 day quarantine. But is decent food, cold beer available without having any hookups or great Spanish? I have 2 chicas I'm very anxious to see that will quarantine with me.

They won't let you have a quarantine with girls stop dreaming! A doctor comes to check on you every day.

[SmotPoker]

I want to go, but would like to hear from some people that have been lately. I understand the 3 day quarantine. But is decent food, cold beer available without having any hookups or great Spanish? I have 2 chicas I'm very anxious to see that will quarantine with me.

[Zeos1]

Don't be gullible, the market rates are much higher than 24:1 on CUP.

Yep, it says 25:1. But your point is not that. When you say market rates you mean black market rates. So tell us what is the black market rate.

[Questner]

Don't be gullible, the market rates are much higher than 24:1 on CUP.

[Ty Down]

Received this this morning from DING, I use them to recharge Cubacel.

As of January 1, 2021 all recharges to Cuba will be sent in CUP (Cuban Pesos).

Following the recent decision of the Cuban Government to withdraw the Cuban Convertible Pesos (CUC) currency from the national economy next year. As of January 1, 2021, all recharges will be sent to Cuba in CUP instead of CUC, as defined by the Cuban Telecommunications Operator, ETECSA.

But don't worry, we've done everything necessary to ensure your refills are received as quickly and easily as usual.

All Cuban rates and any existing balance in CUC will continue to be valid and ETECSA will convert them to CUP according to the exchange rate 1 CUC = 25 CUP.

Therefore, you can enjoy the same benefits received so far for a recharge in CUC.

For example, with a 500 CUP recharge, you can buy a 2 GB Cubacel Data Plan as you did before with a 20 CUC recharge.

We will show you the value of the recharge in CUP and its corresponding price in USD or any other international currency, according to the exchange rate on the day of purchase.

This change will be executed between 10 PM (Cuban time) on December 31 and 8 AM (Cuban time) on January 1, 2021. During this time all ETECSA systems will be interrupted and therefore no recharges can be sent To Cuba.

We kindly ask you to send your recharges to Cuba starting at 9 AM (Cuban time) on January 1, 2021.

[DarrenGap]

I see this as an opportunity to teach capitalism and demonstrate that everything has a price...

I think they already know this.

[TxSnake]

That happens with (most) any Cuban you communicate with. They befriend you in Facebook, send you a couple of inconsequential messages and then the "life is too hard here" message hits you, even from people you know (even family). It's really hard there but a cell recharge or $100 is not going to change that.

So, to answer your question: is it a scam, hassle or true request? My answer is yes to "all of the above. " By the way, when they get a recharge, they can (and will) sell them.

IMHO, no matter what others might say, and based on my experience, there's no need to communicate with the women you want to bed before you get there, and never after you leave. That always ends up with a money request or something else, and no, it won't count as a prepayment (no matter what people tell you).

Can you hunt a tiger before you get to the jungle? Of course not, right? Neither you can bed a woman before you meet her. In Cuba or any other country, hunt once you get there, that's where the fun is!

I see this as an opportunity to teach capitalism and demonstrate that everything has a price. It also keeps things transactional and not social / emotional. I have gotten good results with chicas that understand the idea of receiving in proportion to what they provide. There are ways to get an indication what kind of person you're dealing with. Similar to a slot (****?) machine, don't put in more than you're willing to lose. Sending an amount that communicates a "tip" for facilitating vacation plans has gotten me good results. I look for a female "travel buddy" with benefits. "Amigos con derechos" as the Maluma song say. I have met several chicas that don't want cash. One memorable was one that put out every day in exchange for a trip to Cienfuegos.

[Sammytheman]

Haha yeah they have a bus for that. But I didn't want to turn a 4 hour trip into a 7 hour trip. Plus, you can stop and take a piss whenever you want to LOL. So all in all, I guess $300 is not bad at all.

I've paid $100 CUCs to go from havana to holguin in 2012 with a a police officer I befriended. He stayed with us for the whole week and brought us back to Havana for another $100. I did pay for his food / clubs totalling another $200 cucs or so. Good old days.

[Chris H]

IMHO, no matter what others might say, and based on my experience, there's no need to communicate with the women you want to bed before you get there, and never after you leave. That always ends up with a money request or something else, and no, it won't count as a prepayment (no matter what people tell you).

Can you hunt a tiger before you get to the jungle? Of course not, right? Neither you can bed a woman before you meet her. In Cuba or any other country, hunt once you get there, that's where the fun is!

What a GREAT MESSAGE! ALL very true. No need for communication, until you are actually on the island, and done with it once you depart the island.

[Ty Down]

I think that $300 for a taxi ride from Havana to Ciego (round trip) is not bad at all, that's a long haul. But don't they have a bus for that? https://www.viazul.com.

Haha yeah they have a bus for that. But I didn't want to turn a 4 hour trip into a 7 hour trip. Plus, you can stop and take a piss whenever you want to LOL. So all in all, I guess $300 is not bad at all.

[Rebel Monger]

Cuban experts,

I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?

Of course I declined saying I haven't met you. But I am just wondering if any others have had that experience.

That happens with (most) any Cuban you communicate with. They befriend you in Facebook, send you a couple of inconsequential messages and then the "life is too hard here" message hits you, even from people you know (even family). It's really hard there but a cell recharge or $100 is not going to change that.

So, to answer your question: is it a scam, hassle or true request? My answer is yes to "all of the above. " By the way, when they get a recharge, they can (and will) sell them.

IMHO, no matter what others might say, and based on my experience, there's no need to communicate with the women you want to bed before you get there, and never after you leave. That always ends up with a money request or something else, and no, it won't count as a prepayment (no matter what people tell you).

Can you hunt a tiger before you get to the jungle? Of course not, right? Neither you can bed a woman before you meet her. In Cuba or any other country, hunt once you get there, that's where the fun is!

[Rebel Monger]

To be honest, I have been to Santa Clara and Ciego de Avila a couple times. I wanted to see the countryside of Cuba, plus I knew a couple chicas in Ciego. That was back in the "good" days in Cuba, before the the real shortages started setting in. Now that I've seen that part of Cuba, I'm not going back anytime soon, probably never. It is very expensive travelling outside of Havana. Havana to Ciego round trip = $300 taxi fare.

I think that $300 for a taxi ride from Havana to Ciego (round trip) is not bad at all, that's a long haul. But don't they have a bus for that? https://www.viazul.com.

[AmericanPi]

Can I ask, for those of you messaging prospects ahead of your trips to Havana, where are you finding them? Like if you say "on Facebook" or something, does that mean I can just go in my FB account and search for people and start sending invites? Or is there some other way to do it?

[TxSnake]

EVERY SINGLE CUBAN GIRL DOES THAT. But who knows if she's even a girl unless you did a video chat? My response is "After we have sex, you get paid. " Unless you want to pay for some sexting, which is up to you if that's your thing.

I think that you lose out on opportunities with that approach. After chatting with her for a day or two I ask for a photo of her Carnet de Identidad to prove she's not a minor. If what she told you in the chat contradicts what's on the ID, you know she's not worth your time. Sexting and pornography is illegal in Cuba. If she sends you a nude photo, remind her that you could be denied entry into Cuba if you forget to delete it. Your purpose for online chat is to see if a chica can follow instructions. What if that photo you get was of her from 20 years ago? All is not lost! Don't lose your temper and let her know that you will make it worth her while for her to find you what you're looking for. Networking pays off in Cuba.

Another thing, these chicas were raised under socialism. That means that you need to teach the principle of "give something; get something". Perhaps one in three understand if they provide only a little value, they get peanuts. If she only provides information and conversation, that's worth maybe ten bucks. Paying peanuts proves that you're not playing games but it also gets the point across that if she wants more, she needs to do more. Some chicas are available, but consider it beneath them to take cash for sex. One chica that I really liked would point out a dress that she liked. All I had to say is "convince me". She did everything I wanted (BBFS) and the dress was about $25. I never explicitly offered her cash for sex and if I did, it wouldn't work.

[HarryDubois]

I have been messaging a few of these Chicas last week or so, they seem very sweet and the back on forth on messenger is well. Then they drop a request for a recarga citing their financial hardship. Is that some sort of scam, hassle or a true request?

EVERY SINGLE CUBAN GIRL DOES THAT. But who knows if she's even a girl unless you did a video chat? My response is "After we have sex, you get paid. " Unless you want to pay for some sexting, which is up to you if that's your thing.