Havana

[Mr Gogo]

Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.

The point he was trying to make is that Cuba is about more than just pussy. If you go for just pussy then you are cheating yourself out of a wonderful experience. There is no other place like Cuba on this earth. Its like its being preserved for a final look for those interested.

Its good music everywhere, and its sung with passion. There is no guaranteed financial reward, they sing fir the love of Cuban music. From the jazz at la Zorra why el Cuervo to Casa de Musica. From the beach to guys singing on the Malecon. Its everywhere.

From the ancient buildings that are untouched over the last 100 years to the Spanish history that still stands.

From the people who make the best of a bad situation. To the beautiful women who still make love with passion. To the romantic air that makes Cubans still believe in romance.

I really am starting to dislike guys that go there exclusively to exploit the island for its pretty women who fuck for less. Respect the island and the people and you will receive all the rewards the island has to offer. Go there looking for the next Rio fuck fest and the people will see through your deception.

[HelpRules]

If you're trying to fine a place that's like "Rio back in the day," you're likely to be disappointed. The only place that compares IMO is maybe Thailand. You probably need to adjust your expectations whether it be in Cuba, Colombia, or the DR.

Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.

Why wouldn't you go back just for the pussy. Don't you find a girl and take her to listen to the music and dance. Is the music that good that I would want to listen to it w / o hooking up at the same time. If the police are a problem, why not get a casa next to the best take out joint, and just tell the girl to walk over or take a quick cab ride by herself.

As far as Colombia, been there, but the clubs aren't great. The girls are hardcore and hot, but not much to do there. I will go back one day, but I assume there are more things to do in Cuba during the dead time, and from what I gather the cuban girls are not as hardcore.

[Combo]

I don't think Frommers is going to give me the mongering perspective on the best lodging. Thats why I posted here. I want to know what the best casas are near the most popular beach for a cheap price that allows girls w / o a extra charge. I'm assuming that can be answered here way better than Frommers or some travel book. It would be nice to be close to the beach, so I can just walk to the beach from my room, check out the girls in their bikinis, be hit on by the semi and pro hookers, and then take them back to my casa a couple blocks away. Thats what Rio was like back in the day, but it has really dried up there and is too expensive. Is this plan good, or do I have Cuba all wrong. If I can meet girls this way when I arrive, I can do a longer term date with the girls I like, and let them show me around Cuba for the best clubs and restaurants. It would shorten my learning curve this way.

If you're trying to fine a place that's like "Rio back in the day," you're likely to be disappointed. The only place that compares IMO is maybe Thailand. You probably need to adjust your expectations whether it be in Cuba, Colombia, or the DR.

Cuba's glory days for mongering were back in the 90s. It was a free-for-all with no police concern with chica-tourist interaction. I was lucky enough to go in '99. I went again in '01 after the early crackdowns began and it was noticeably worse. I am going to try it again in January 2014. However, my trip is as much about music and dance as it is about chicas. I would not go back to Cuba if I was only interested in pussy. Colombia or the DR make alot more sense in that regard.

[Kalifornication]

Forgive me, my ADHD may have gotten the better of me. I too don't hang with the elites of Cuba, I. 90 percent of the time, live with them in their barrios. I love the Cuban people.

I don't hang with the Miramar (sp) crowd or the wealthy. My info comes from the street. You may in fact be correct, but I have no interest in developing an opinion about oppression from people of privilege.

I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.

[HelpRules]

1) I read some more reports, and the more recent reports of distinction, which werent that many in the last 5 years, so let me know if I have this about right. There are 2 main clubs where all the girls are hookers, like HELP in Rio. I forgot the names of the clubs. The girls go for about 60 to 100 cuc, which if I am right, is about 70 to 110 dollars, since you don't get 1 to 1 like xe. Com shows. Some of the guys say don't pay more than 25 dollars for a girl. Is this doable in the main 2 takeout clubs. I only bang girls in the 8 to 10 range. I like to pay the going rate. I never pay more and I usually don't care about haggling for much less, but if the going rate is 25 dollars, I would rather pay that, and have a hell of a lot of fun, but I have a feeling it's going to be 50 to 70 american dollars a pop at the nice clubs. You never know what these girls look like that are 25 dollars. I understand that doctors make like 50 dollars a month, but guys are suckers for hot girls with DD, so doctor's salaries salary aren't material when a hot chick is staring you in the face. Although, If I could get 9 and 10's for 50 dollars a night with no hassle, I would have so much fun. It would be like Brazil all over.

2) If you want girls for cheaper, you can get them walking around the streets, and that price will depend on your negotiating skills I assume. Stay at a casa, so you don't have to pay the guard to get the girl up. Are there any hotels where there are no extra charges for girls. I really like staying at hotels. Its safer and I can put my money in the safe when the girl is in the room. I got the impression from reading the reports that just about all the girls walking around are for sale, since they have plenty of free time, and their major needs are met by the government.

3) There are no strip clubs from what I read. Is this correct. That sucks. I really like seeing the body w / o all the clothes that can hide alot. Although, the reports show that these girls all have great bodies. I guess all that walking and no fast food will do that for you.

Please comment on my summary of Cuba. I want to go before it opens up to capitalism, because those rich guys from miami and the northeast are going to ruin it for us all. How much do you think the girls will be charging when Cuba becomes a open country again. Any estimates.

[HelpRules]

Glad there are quite a few new people seeking information and planning to visit Cuba. A lot of the information you are looking for is pretty simple, basic stuff that you can get elsewhere. There are several places where you can get information, beginning with travel books and travel sites like Moon books, Frommer's etc. I think you should spend a little time perusing those places as you are seeking information that is necessary for ALL travelers (Accommodation, travel between cities, currency, food etc).

Yes, things have changed in the last 5 years, but Cuba is still worth a trip. I think once you have the foundation down I think you will be fine, especially since you have been to other places in Latin America. Just read as much of this forum as possible, take a few notes, have fun and report back. Good luck!

I don't think Frommers is going to give me the mongering perspective on the best lodging. Thats why I posted here. I want to know what the best casas are near the most popular beach for a cheap price that allows girls w / o a extra charge. I'm assuming that can be answered here way better than Frommers or some travel book. It would be nice to be close to the beach, so I can just walk to the beach from my room, check out the girls in their bikinis, be hit on by the semi and pro hookers, and then take them back to my casa a couple blocks away. Thats what Rio was like back in the day, but it has really dried up there and is too expensive. Is this plan good, or do I have Cuba all wrong. If I can meet girls this way when I arrive, I can do a longer term date with the girls I like, and let them show me around Cuba for the best clubs and restaurants. It would shorten my learning curve this way.

[Mr Gogo]

Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.

I don't hang with the Miramar (sp) crowd or the wealthy. My info comes from the street. You may in fact be correct, but I have no interest in developing an opinion about oppression from people of privilege.

I'm not here to get into the political situation in Cuba, people will find out when they go. But if you want to say that the people are lying in their opinions about Fidel to me, thats cool I guess. But in my post I never said the people in Cuba hate Fidel. I said past American governments and the South Florida Cubans hate Fidel.

[Kalifornication]

Words from the Petite bourgeoisie. You guys have no idea how life is on the ground in Cuba. It's about as diverse, in terms of opinions, as elsewhere. There are those that are fed up, those that are content and many in the middle. For the record, they don't hate Fidel. No matter how much they may say so, they don't. In any case, Fidel is effectively off the scene and, even assuming he is, Cuba is changing and changing rapidly. They will not lose their socialism, but it will indeed evolve. About girls being harassed, my girl has never been harassed not once in the past 5 years.

Agreed. But the hope is in the strength of the people. I have been to other countries where the people are oppressed, and they have given up. But the Cubans know the regime is coming to an end eventually, and there in is the strength.

You have to put this into perspective. Everything centers around one person, Fidel. The past American governments hate Fidel. The south Florida Cubans hate Fidel. Even the people in Cuba wait for a world without El Presidente. Once this obstacle is not there everything changes. Now the question is does it change for the better with American involvement? I won't go deep into this topic, but I will say this; The Cuban people are probably the strongest group I have seen in dealing with an oppressed society.

[Mr Gogo]

There are almost no 'malls' in Cuba in known sense. No fun hanging in ones on Prado or Central Havana.

Cops will detain a girl if she was known to police. While inside a taxi cops won't do anything. However the game is on when she steps out of the car. Moon guide is very good. For the feeling of what to expect see this movie preferably in Spanish:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797348/?ref_=nv_sr_1

'7 Dias en la Habana' (2012)

On what has changed: It is like a circle of life, first comes the disease, then attempts to cure it, then coma, then death, horrible funeral on the outskirts, division of property, grief, denial, monument on the grave, death taxes, oblivion, etc. You decide where is Cuba now on her way with socialism, but I'll tell you, Cubans are fed up with the experiment long long time ago. That what has changed, there is no more hope in the regime.

Agreed. But the hope is in the strength of the people. I have been to other countries where the people are oppressed, and they have given up. But the Cubans know the regime is coming to an end eventually, and there in is the strength.

You have to put this into perspective. Everything centers around one person, Fidel. The past American governments hate Fidel. The south Florida Cubans hate Fidel. Even the people in Cuba wait for a world without El Presidente. Once this obstacle is not there everything changes. Now the question is does it change for the better with American involvement? I won't go deep into this topic, but I will say this; The Cuban people are probably the strongest group I have seen in dealing with an oppressed society.

[Questner]

I just find it so odd that you can't hang with girls on the beach or ride in a taxi with a girl or the cops will arrest her because he assumes she is a prostitute. That is so insane, even for a socialist country. I have a god damn daddy watching over me on vacation. What if I go to the mall. Can I hit on girls there w / o the cops looking to arrest her.

There are almost no 'malls' in Cuba in known sense. No fun hanging in ones on Prado or Central Havana.

Cops will detain a girl if she was known to police. While inside a taxi cops won't do anything. However the game is on when she steps out of the car. Moon guide is very good. For the feeling of what to expect see this movie preferably in Spanish: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797348/?ref_=nv_sr_1

'7 Dias en la Habana' (2012)

On what has changed: It is like a circle of life, first comes the disease, then attempts to cure it, then coma, then death, horrible funeral on the outskirts, division of property, grief, denial, monument on the grave, death taxes, oblivion, etc. You decide where is Cuba now on her way with socialism, but I'll tell you, Cubans are fed up with the experiment long long time ago. That what has changed, there is no more hope in the regime.

[HelpRules]

I just find it so odd that you can't hang with girls on the beach or ride in a taxi with a girl or the cops will arrest her because he assumes she is a prostitute. That is so insane, even for a socialist country. I have a god damn daddy watching over me on vacation. What if I go to the mall. Can I hit on girls there w / o the cops looking to arrest her.

[Finnish Fucker]

Those are the most incredible tits I have ever seen. What did those girls in the pictures cost you in dolars. Why can't you talk to girls on the beach. How can the cops stop you for hanging out with girls. I don't understand. I didn't know Cuba was a nanny state.

In Cuba you can find good natural tits The girls costed me around 100$ each if I remember right. Quality has it's price.

I found out that all the prostitutes were afraid of police. Every time I took a girl back to my casa we had to take separate taxis. Not an issue for me but anyway it felt a bit strange.

In Cuba there was not the same relaxed atmosphere like in Colombia or Brazil where you can hang out with the birds on the beach drinking beer etc.

Anyway go there and have fun! If you have any other questions send me a PM.

-Kepp

[Velasco]

Glad there are quite a few new people seeking information and planning to visit Cuba. A lot of the information you are looking for is pretty simple, basic stuff that you can get elsewhere. There are several places where you can get information, beginning with travel books and travel sites like Moon books, Frommer's etc. I think you should spend a little time perusing those places as you are seeking information that is necessary for ALL travelers (Accommodation, travel between cities, currency, food etc).

Yes, things have changed in the last 5 years, but Cuba is still worth a trip. I think once you have the foundation down I think you will be fine, especially since you have been to other places in Latin America. Just read as much of this forum as possible, take a few notes, have fun and report back. Good luck!

[Wet Nose]

Question to the Cuba experts. I am considering going to Cuba from Mexico for the first time. I have read some of the past posts to try to catch up, and am confused about something. I read some posts that said Cuba isn't as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Why is this. It's still a socialist country, and it hasn't been americanized yet. It's still run by a Castro, so can someone explain why it changed, and what the biggest difference is. Brazil is too far and too expensive. Mexico is too much of a hustle and americanized, but still decent for a quick trip. Cuba seems to be the next best / new option for me, when you consider I am looking for something close, hot latin girls, and inexpensive that isn't americanized. I am assuming Cuba fits that description best for now. Any advice would be good. From what I read. Stay away from hotels and get a casa. What exactly is a casa. Is it a house that rents out rooms?

Yes, a casa is a house owned by a local Cuban, who rents out spare rooms. Meals are usually not included but good value. Google up casa particulars. If you need one, just PM me and I can give you the phone number of one.

As to why Cuba is not as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Probably no one can tell you. The scene in Cuba can change from week to week, depending on the whims of the local communist committee. I've had 1 or 2 trips (out of 12) which were a total bust, but others which were awesome. Americans have nothing to do with it.

[Mr Gogo]

Question to the Cuba experts. I am considering going to Cuba from Mexico for the first time. I have read some of the past posts to try to catch up, and am confused about something. I read some posts that said Cuba isn't as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. Why is this. It's still a socialist country, and it hasn't been americanized yet. It's still run by a Castro, so can someone explain why it changed, and what the biggest difference is. Brazil is too far and too expensive. Mexico is too much of a hustle and americanized, but still decent for a quick trip. Cuba seems to be the next best / new option for me, when you consider I am looking for something close, hot latin girls, and inexpensive that isn't americanized. I am assuming Cuba fits that description best for now. Any advice would be good. From what I read. Stay away from hotels and get a casa. What exactly is a casa. Is it a house that rents out rooms?

Good luck. Guys don't share much info here unless you are in their click. My advise would be to go back a few pages for info. Consider your first trip your dry run. It will be filled with learning experiences to help you grow for future trips.