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Originally Posted by FunLuvr
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Support for the Cuba people category states "OFAC is requiring that each traveler under this travel category engage in a full-time schedule of activities that result in meaningful interaction with individuals in Cuba". Do you think the Treasury Department personnel would look favorably on my schedule if I listed spending half a day in my room with a Cuban lady? Probably not!
But on a serious note, it appears the US government is somewhat encouraging travel if it involves renting a room in a private home, eating at privately owned restaurants, and shopping at privately owned stores. The difficulty is filling up the remaining hours in a day that satisfies the requirements.
I haven't read the Treasury dept guidelines in detail yet, but from what I understand you can still go to Cuba under the 12 categories listed, just as before. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I have always traveled to Cuba under the Journalist category, and I do document my adventures in Cuba, (pics and video) of historic places and agriculture out in the campo.
I guess I need to read up on which restaurants are legal or illegal to patronize.
I bought my plane ticket to Cuba a couple weeks ago so it will interesting to see what changes are really in place this trip.
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Schedule of activities
Support for the Cuba people category states "OFAC is requiring that each traveler under this travel category engage in a full-time schedule of activities that result in meaningful interaction with individuals in Cuba". Do you think the Treasury Department personnel would look favorably on my schedule if I listed spending half a day in my room with a Cuban lady? Probably not!
But on a serious note, it appears the US government is somewhat encouraging travel if it involves renting a room in a private home, eating at privately owned restaurants, and shopping at privately owned stores. The difficulty is filling up the remaining hours in a day that satisfies the requirements.
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Starting today:
It's unclear how aggressively the USA Will police the new rules. Officials said they would use information obtained from several USA Agencies to catch violators, who could be subject to penalties and criminal prosecution.
What other agencies? Customs, banks, airlines? Are the airlines snitching?
I would advise all single Americans traveling to Cuba to make sure they follow all the new rules for now. They will probably try to make examples of travelers not in compliance with fines or prosecution. The key for us to pay attention how other countries react; will they work in cooperation with the United States or not. Might be back to traveling to Cuba via a third country if the US airlines aren't working in our favor.
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Cuba Travel
Yes indeed. Sharpen your pencil and get your log books ready, and maintain a detailed record for 5 years for examination.
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce...t_11082017.pdf
"According to a fact sheet published on Nov. 8 by the Treasury Department, individual travel will still be allowed within 12 categories, including humanitarian and religious travel; family visits; journalistic activity; professional research; and participation in public performances, clinics, workshops, athletic and other competitions.
Those traveling in these categories will still be able to book a flight and reserve a room online and they will not be required to apply for a specific license. However, they should pursue the activity in Cuba for which their license is granted, whether it be helping a religious group or bringing humanitarian aid, and keep records of their visit for the requisite five years."
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Cuba ban
New Cuba ban goes into effect tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by StudBucket
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Thanks Questner, appreciate the tip. So, the key here is to call each venue and ask them what is going on that week. Unfortunately, my casa owner is in Madrid so she cannot help me. I do speak Spanish and could call myself, so my question is what I am looking for in "stay of events" , are we looking for special band, ladies night, or will they tell us if there is something going on? Not quite sure what we are looking for to make the decision.
If anyone knows any specific location that is good on a certain day of the week always, please post as well, thanks.
Events are when particular popular Cuban group, singer or band is playing. Also, depending on your day activities, ask for matinees. Basically those events are scheduled during the day, say for example 4 to 7 pm.
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Originally Posted by UncleVolodya
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This is good info. Thanks ElGrande. What do you mean by matinees at Salon Rojo?
Club opens late afternoon and closes at midnight.
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Originally Posted by ElGrande
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Right! Cuba has its own schedule. Girls can be found depending on the police situation. One day its full of talents the other day it can be empty. I prefer the street action and use clubs only if it is bad weather or if I'm to lazy to chase a girl on the street. As far as it concerns clubs, 2 weeks ago Fantaxy & Don Cangrejo were open at weekends only. St. Johns was closed on Tuesday. Dauville was open all week. Salon Rojo had matinees only. Except Salon Rojo all of these clubs were full of available girls. A good indicator are the amount if chulos and taxis particulares waiting in front if the club. The more there are, the better.
This is good info. Thanks ElGrande. What do you mean by matinees at Salon Rojo?
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Originally Posted by ChrisH
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Totally agree, just got to get down there and dig in. Its very worth the time and effort.
Right! Cuba has its own schedule. Girls can be found depending on the police situation. One day its full of talents the other day it can be empty. I prefer the street action and use clubs only if it is bad weather or if I'm to lazy to chase a girl on the street. As far as it concerns clubs, 2 weeks ago Fantaxy & Don Cangrejo were open at weekends only. St. Johns was closed on Tuesday. Dauville was open all week. Salon Rojo had matinees only. Except Salon Rojo all of these clubs were full of available girls. A good indicator are the amount if chulos and taxis particulares waiting in front if the club. The more there are, the better.
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Thanks Guys for the Response
Originally Posted by Mondo707
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Hey Stud,
First, I'd have to agree with Mr G in his post and what he tells you about Habana.
Just a heads up, since you mention in your post that you're fluent in Espaol, when you're near a radio turn on radio Taino-FM. They have updates pretty often on what goes on at the different venues in la Habana. I take it the place where you're staying has a radio, right?
BTW, I listened to it online here just to be aware what's going on down there.
http://www.radiotaino.icrt.cu/web/site/audiodemanda
Mondo.
Okay thanks for everyone who responded, it makes a lot more sense now. I was not aware that the nightlife changes that often, but these last few posts really made me aware. I will definitely do a lot of research and asking. Thanks Mondo for the radio tip, yes, I will have radio access and will keep my radar on for events. And Mr. Gogo, thanks for pointing out LaGrunge disco and the Hotel Deauville disco as I missed those or did not see those on prior posts. Will definitely check them out.
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La Habana info
Originally Posted by StudBucket
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Thanks Questner, appreciate the tip. So, the key here is to call each venue and ask them what is going on that week. Unfortunately, my casa owner is in Madrid so she cannot help me. I do speak Spanish and could call myself, so my question is what I am looking for in "stay of events" , are we looking for special band, ladies night, or will they tell us if there is something going on? Not quite sure what we are looking for to make the decision.
If anyone knows any specific location that is good on a certain day of the week always, please post as well, thanks.
Hey Stud,
First, I'd have to agree with Mr G in his post and what he tells you about Habana.
Just a heads up, since you mention in your post that you're fluent in Espaņol, when you're near a radio turn on radio Taino-FM. They have updates pretty often on what goes on at the different venues in la Habana. I take it the place where you're staying has a radio, right?
BTW, I listened to it online here just to be aware what's going on down there.
http://www.radiotaino.icrt.cu/web/site/audiodemanda
Mondo.
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Originally Posted by MrGogo
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I replied below, but you are wasting you time asking here for specifics because you have to be on the ground doing your own research. Some nights are for couples, other nights it's for alternative shit, then you might have a certain band playing. Not sure if a phone call will satisfy your curiosity, Cuba is not that simple bro. You are trying to make it easy and I respect that but Cuba is not easy.
Totally agree, just got to get down there and dig in. Its very worth the time and effort.
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Originally Posted by StudBucket
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Thanks Questner, appreciate the tip. So, the key here is to call each venue and ask them what is going on that week. Unfortunately, my casa owner is in Madrid so she cannot help me. I do speak Spanish and could call myself, so my question is what I am looking for in "stay of events" , are we looking for special band, ladies night, or will they tell us if there is something going on? Not quite sure what we are looking for to make the decision.
If anyone knows any specific location that is good on a certain day of the week always, please post as well, thanks.
I replied below, but you are wasting you time asking here for specifics because you have to be on the ground doing your own research. Some nights are for couples, other nights it's for alternative shit, then you might have a certain band playing. Not sure if a phone call will satisfy your curiosity, Cuba is not that simple bro. You are trying to make it easy and I respect that but Cuba is not easy.
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Originally Posted by Questner
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StudBucket, the best advice is on day one to ask a local casa owner or hotel staff to call each venue for your week of stay events. Events migrate from day to day and girls follow them. La Cecilia may have enough girls, but may be just closed for a particular weekend. You just have to make a choice where to stay, Vedado or Miramar, and then inevitably travel. I would also like to see a clear concise report on venues, but I have my doubts it can be produced.
Thanks Questner, appreciate the tip. So, the key here is to call each venue and ask them what is going on that week. Unfortunately, my casa owner is in Madrid so she cannot help me. I do speak Spanish and could call myself, so my question is what I am looking for in "stay of events" , are we looking for special band, ladies night, or will they tell us if there is something going on? Not quite sure what we are looking for to make the decision.
If anyone knows any specific location that is good on a certain day of the week always, please post as well, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Questner
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StudBucket, the best advice is on day one to ask a local casa owner or hotel staff to call each venue for your week of stay events. Events migrate from day to day and girls follow them. La Cecilia may have enough girls, but may be just closed for a particular weekend. You just have to make a choice where to stay, Vedado or Miramar, and then inevitably travel. I would also like to see a clear concise report on venues, but I have my doubts it can be produced.
Good advice. Even better I would suggest you ask a tout (Cubans that speak English and hustle tourist) because they usually have the up to date info. There is no set playbook for Havana. I try to keep the Casa owner away and out of my business but I have used them in the past for good info. The routine Grownman has been preaching for the last year is still very reliable but guys just like to do their own thing. Pica flora on the 14th floor of St Johns hotel, la Grunge disco near ST Johns after 1 am. La Rampa and the Malecon are right there loaded with free lancers. Deauville hotel has a disco with girls for 5 cuc Estrada.
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