Havana

[StudBucket]

Hello Fellow ISGers.

My buddies and I are strongly considering going back to Havana for our 2nd trip this May. Last time we were there last November and the following venues seemed to be the best to meet quality freelancers: Don Cangrejo, Mango's (now closed), Fantaxy, and St. Johns bar (also closed). We tried other venues like Mio why Tuyo, La Cecilia, Bolabana and they simply were not that abundant with talent like the others.

With Mango's and St. Johns being closed this really limits the good options even further for freelancers in bars and discos which we prefer. Does anyone have any updates on the venues, what else is currently good? Is Don Cangrejo still good on weekends? Anyone that can share recent intel would be much appreciated.

[Bdb013]

Now I feel like I HAVE to go to Havana in order to settle this (LOL). I love Latin Women, but then again I love 'them all: pouty Asian girls, sultry Spanish, wispy blonde FSU pretty much everyone except my former wife (German, but very Americanized). I also love MDE, but I haven't been to Havana. Closest thing was I was a journalist in marxist (at that time) Nicaragua in the early / mid 1980's. From what I gather there are a lot of social similarities to modern Cuba and the people were incredibly sweet (the military was omnipresent but also was kind of on the sweet side -- I frequently got picked up hitch hiking by military convoys). From what I could tell (as a Gringo), there was absolutely no prostitution going on (mostly because of the soldier on every corner). Which makes me curious about how it works in Cuba. I would have loved to have bedded some of those sweet communist Nicas --and I had the impression they felt the same way, but there was a barrier between us. On the other hand, at that time (and speaking as an American journalist), El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala and even Costa Rica were full of p4 p opportunities for a guy like me, but sadly missing the sweet interpersonal connections that Nicaragua offered.

For strictly personal reasons I haven't yet committed to my next trip. I am leaning Cuba, but damn, the Colombian girls are hot and the commercially established GFE sex scene is easy to navigate. But I guess I'm still searching for my sweet Nicaraguense (or Cubanita) novia (for pay).

I'd say the challenge is on.

I would say go for it. Just the experience of Havana is worth the trip. We rented an Airbnb in the Vedado neighborhood right off the Malecon. No problems finding P4P. Walk down the Malecon or just walk the neighborhood. There was a restaurant called Sofia's we would go to for drinks and snacks. Always P $P action in there. You do have to be careful of the policia. Myself and my wingman pulled two girls one evening and was on route back to the condo when we were stopped by the police. We went on ahead and they detained the girls. The finally let them go to us, but wanted the girls to bring them $50 cuc on the way back out. So that is what it is. Had another occasion where we were talking to a couple chicas on a slow night on the malecon. Two policia walked up to see what we were doing. One of the chicas talked to them and they walked away. We quickly went into their abode on the Malecon, paid grandma a little fee on the way in. Did our business and left. Walked right back by the police. They politely smiled and we went about our business. Here is a pic of one of the girls I snagged from Sofia's. I would go back to Havana as well. But Medellin is still my favorite because the girls are so hot and GFE is abundant. I suspect the action might be a little easier now since its harder now for us Americans to go.

[Errol Flynn]

First of all, Latin women are the best. Medellin is the cleanest city I have ever been. People are extremely nice there. The cost of everything in Medellin is very inexpensive. But the girls, they are beautiful and fun. Age differences mean little and GFE is plentiful. Not one girl I was with acted mechanical. They all seemed to really enjoy time together. Better than a real girlfriend. Go look at Colombian Cupid and browse the girls, then about a month before your trip, sign up and start chatting with girls and you can have everything pre-arranged and negotiated before you go. After you make contact with one on CC, get their whatsapp number and set up all arrangements. Stay in the Parque Lleras area. Lots of fun at night and plenty of girls to snag from the street. You can always PM me for more info. I have a great guide there as well. He can help you arrange everything.

Now I feel like I HAVE to go to Havana in order to settle this (LOL). I love Latin Women, but then again I love 'them all: pouty Asian girls, sultry Spanish, wispy blonde FSU pretty much everyone except my former wife (German, but very Americanized). I also love MDE, but I haven't been to Havana. Closest thing was I was a journalist in marxist (at that time) Nicaragua in the early / mid 1980's. From what I gather there are a lot of social similarities to modern Cuba and the people were incredibly sweet (the military was omnipresent but also was kind of on the sweet side -- I frequently got picked up hitch hiking by military convoys). From what I could tell (as a Gringo), there was absolutely no prostitution going on (mostly because of the soldier on every corner). Which makes me curious about how it works in Cuba. I would have loved to have bedded some of those sweet communist Nicas --and I had the impression they felt the same way, but there was a barrier between us. On the other hand, at that time (and speaking as an American journalist), El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala and even Costa Rica were full of p4 p opportunities for a guy like me, but sadly missing the sweet interpersonal connections that Nicaragua offered.

For strictly personal reasons I haven't yet committed to my next trip. I am leaning Cuba, but damn, the Colombian girls are hot and the commercially established GFE sex scene is easy to navigate. But I guess I'm still searching for my sweet Nicaraguense (or Cubanita) novia (for pay).

I'd say the challenge is on.

[Bdb013]

Thanks! I have been meaning to make it to Columbia one day soon and I will certainly hit you up for info.

I think airbnb is really the way to go. I can recommend the place I stayed last time (and will stay again in May). PM me if you are interested and I'll sen you the link to the guy's casa.

Wow I know this is the Havana forum however why did you say Medellin is your all-time favorite? You got me rethinking Medellin.

First of all, Latin women are the best. Medellin is the cleanest city I have ever been. People are extremely nice there. The cost of everything in Medellin is very inexpensive. But the girls, they are beautiful and fun. Age differences mean little and GFE is plentiful. Not one girl I was with acted mechanical. They all seemed to really enjoy time together. Better than a real girlfriend. Go look at Colombian Cupid and browse the girls, then about a month before your trip, sign up and start chatting with girls and you can have everything pre-arranged and negotiated before you go. After you make contact with one on CC, get their whatsapp number and set up all arrangements. Stay in the Parque Lleras area. Lots of fun at night and plenty of girls to snag from the street. You can always PM me for more info. I have a great guide there as well. He can help you arrange everything.

[GrownMan1]

I have been to Havana twice and Columbia twice, Bogota and Medellin. I loved Havana, but Columbia is hands down much better. I've also been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Chaing Mai, Siagon, Phenom Penn, Cassablanca, Marikesh, Fez, Jamaica. Medellin is my all time favorite place. I'm planning on going back again this year.

Wow I know this is the Havana forum however why did you say Medellin is your all-time favorite? You got me rethinking Medellin.

[Bdb013]

Thanks! I have been meaning to make it to Columbia one day soon and I will certainly hit you up for info.

I think airbnb is really the way to go. I can recommend the place I stayed last time (and will stay again in May). PM me if you are interested and I'll sen you the link to the guy's casa.

I have been to Havana twice and Columbia twice, Bogota and Medellin. I loved Havana, but Columbia is hands down much better. I've also been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Chaing Mai, Siagon, Phenom Penn, Cassablanca, Marikesh, Fez, Jamaica. Medellin is my all time favorite place. I'm planning on going back again this year.

[Uncle Volodya]

Thanks for the advice. It seems clear that getting the lodging right is key. The two reasons I'm leaning AirBNB are that they appear to clearly state some units are "independent" -- I'm hoping that makes things easier, even though I realize it means less of the cultural experience than a traditional casa particular -- and they provide a way to contact the host. I can't see a way to do that with havanacasaparticular.com (although they list safes in the units which seems desirable to anyone from the US). Am I approaching this right?

I haven't been to the DR (many other parts of the Caribbean and Latin America though) but I encourage you to give Colombia a try if you like latin culture / women. I'm sure it's
very different from Cuba, but it's a special place, I'm happy to share my thoughts.

Thanks! I have been meaning to make it to Colombia one day soon and I will certainly hit you up for info.

I think airbnb is really the way to go. I can recommend the place I stayed last time (and will stay again in May). PM me if you are interested and I'll sen you the link to the guy's casa.

[Errol Flynn]

One tip: make sure you book a casa that is girl friendly. I booked on Airbnb and messaged the host to make sure they were cool with "guests" coming over. Not all of them are.

Thanks for the advice. It seems clear that getting the lodging right is key. The two reasons I'm leaning AirBNB are that they appear to clearly state some units are "independent" -- I'm hoping that makes things easier, even though I realize it means less of the cultural experience than a traditional casa particular -- and they provide a way to contact the host. I can't see a way to do that with havanacasaparticular.com (although they list safes in the units which seems desirable to anyone from the US). Am I approaching this right?

Cuba seems to be a bit trickier than the DR or Columbia (full disclosure I have never been to either). But it has the advantage of being kind of unique and isolated. Also I think the girls are a bit slimmer because their diet is healthier.

I haven't been to the DR (many other parts of the Caribbean and Latin America though) but I encourage you to give Colombia a try if you like latin culture / women. I'm sure it's very different from Cuba, but it's a special place, I'm happy to share my thoughts.

[GrownMan1]

Havana checks all your boxes however nothing is guaranteed in Cuba. There will always be a club to go to, the Cubans love their dancing too much. The challenge is finding that one club that is hot, it changes nightly. You can waste half your night driving around trying to find one. As mentioned in other posts you can find some stunner but with that comes the hardened pros and the games.

Picking up girls on the street is much like the clubs. The scene changes minute by minute, hour by hour. It's really not like other countries where you have known avenues or streets with girls beckoning you in. An area can be hot one night and a ghost town the next. Sometimes it's obvious these girls are looking for some CUC but most times they blend in with their friends drinking and playing music, shopping etc. The aggressive ones will approach you but you will have much more success if you initiate the conversation. A smile and and Hello, opens up so many opportunities. Sitting on the malecon with a cooler bag of beers is like bees to honey. Once you unlock this, the pussy is right in front of you all the time.

Cuba is not an all inclusive monger destination like the others. You can't jet in and pick up the phone, go for a massage, Facebook or pop into the mongering bar / hotel; That option is not there. You need to put some leg work in and most off all you have to be able to handle all the bullshit that comes with it. Cuba is not for everyone but if you put the time and effort in you will be rewarded. Your age BTW will not be an issue at all.

Excellent response.

[Uncle Volodya]

Thanks Canuck, this makes sense and is very helpful. I get that the challenge is part of the fun, and am relieved that my age won't be an extra barrier. I love the suggestion of "Sitting on the Malecon with a cooler bag of beers", that's exactly my style but I wouldn't have thought of it. My issue is that (for various personal reasons) it's a while since I've been able to do a serious international mongering trip and with just a small window I'd hate for it to be a total flop. I read reports that suggest members go for weeks without success, whereas in Colombia it's shooting fish in a barrel (but the diamonds are few and far between). Not totally decided yet, but damn, Cuba is tempting. Happy for any other opinions or advice on how to make it a success (in six days).

EF.

I don't think you will go weeks without success. Just staying in Vedado you will be followed by girls and propositioned. The hard thing sis finding a gem. Btu if you stay out there you'll be fine.

Knowing a bit of Spanish and not being shy about using it will go a long way.

Clubs like Don Cangrejo and La Gruta (where the girls from St John hotel have been apparently congregating) are like shooting fish in a barrel.

One tip: make sure you book a casa that is girl friendly. I booked on Airbnb and messaged the host to make sure they were cool with "guests" coming over. Not all of them are.

Cuba seems to be a bit trickier than DR or Columbia (full disclosure I have never been to either). But it has the advantage of being kind of unique and isolated. Also I think the girls are a bit slimmer because their diet is healthier.

[Errol Flynn]

Havana checks all your boxes however nothing is guaranteed in Cuba.

Thanks Canuck, this makes sense and is very helpful. I get that the challenge is part of the fun, and am relieved that my age won't be an extra barrier. I love the suggestion of "Sitting on the Malecon with a cooler bag of beers", that's exactly my style but I wouldn't have thought of it. My issue is that (for various personal reasons) it's a while since I've been able to do a serious international mongering trip and with just a small window I'd hate for it to be a total flop. I read reports that suggest members go for weeks without success, whereas in Colombia it's shooting fish in a barrel (but the diamonds are few and far between). Not totally decided yet, but damn, Cuba is tempting. Happy for any other opinions or advice on how to make it a success (in six days).

EF.

[Canuck34]

I've wanted to visit Cuba for a very long time, every year I kick myself for missing the good old days, but I have always felt I would need a good chunk of time to make it a successful trip. Right now I have time and funds for a much needed but brief (six days max) mongering trip. My first instinct is to go back to Colombia where sex with beautiful women is a sure thing. But IF I could get it, some quality Cuban GFE would really rock my world. My question is how realistic is it to pull that off in less than six days?.

Havana checks all your boxes however nothing is guaranteed in Cuba. There will always be a club to go to, the Cubans love their dancing too much. The challenge is finding that one club that is hot, it changes nightly. You can waste half your night driving around trying to find one. As mentioned in other posts you can find some stunner but with that comes the hardened pros and the games.

Picking up girls on the street is much like the clubs. The scene changes minute by minute, hour by hour. It's really not like other countries where you have known avenues or streets with girls beckoning you in. An area can be hot one night and a ghost town the next. Sometimes it's obvious these girls are looking for some CUC but most times they blend in with their friends drinking and playing music, shopping etc. The aggressive ones will approach you but you will have much more success if you initiate the conversation. A smile and and Hello, opens up so many opportunities. Sitting on the malecon with a cooler bag of beers is like bees to honey. Once you unlock this, the pussy is right in front of you all the time.

Cuba is not an all inclusive monger destination like the others. You can't jet in and pick up the phone, go for a massage, Facebook or pop into the mongering bar / hotel; That option is not there. You need to put some leg work in and most off all you have to be able to handle all the bullshit that comes with it. Cuba is not for everyone but if you put the time and effort in you will be rewarded. Your age BTW will not be an issue at all.

[Bart1]

It does not matter if you have traveled from Cuba to Mexico or Cuba to Canada before returning home, do not lie to immigration. This is the main rule. Lying to a Federal official is a real crime.

There is a small chance immigration will not know you have been to Cuba, but not a big chance. The US government has the flight manifests of all of the airlines flying in and out of Cuba. You are unlikely to be off of their radar screen. This is well documented by travelers who have been caught in their net over the years.

Even if you are in violation of the Treasury Dept rules on travel to Cuba, this is a violation, not a crime (ie, not a misdemeanor or a felony). Tell the immigration authorities the truth. Occasionally, one will be cited for violating Treasury Dept rules. If you are unlucky enough to being cited for a travel violation, request a hearing (do not pay the fine) and you will almost certainly never hear from the US government again. There have only been a couple of special tribunals since the 1960's, and the chances they are going to have one anytime soon are tiny.

In contrast, if you get caught in a lie with immigration, you become part of the regular federal legal system. Regular courts and regular trials. They do not forget or forgive and the penalties for lying to an immigration official are big. $60,000 fines are common.

Sure, you can prepare for a trip to Cuba by pretending you are there for any of the allowable 11 categories such as "in support of the Cuban people" but if you haven't done your homework do not screw yourself by lying to immigration officials in Miami, DFW or wherever. Who knows where this will go with Trump, but the US travel policies on Cuba have never been seriously enforced, so why would they start now? Lying to a Federal officer will always be a serious crime.

I was told 15 years ago my neighbour who was a pilot for a canadian charter airline, that they had to call in names of all persons on the flight when overflying the usa to usa authorities when he was going to mexico and Cuba on direct flights from Canada, this was 5 years or so before it became common knowledge, only in the land of the free eh?

[Errol Flynn]

I've wanted to visit Cuba for a very long time, every year I kick myself for missing the good old days, but I have always felt I would need a good chunk of time to make it a successful trip. Right now I have time and funds for a much needed but brief (six days max) mongering trip. My first instinct is to go back to Colombia where sex with beautiful women is a sure thing. But IF I could get it, some quality Cuban GFE would really rock my world. My question is how realistic is it to pull that off in less than six days? (In Colombia I'd be having sex three times a day with everything from a cheap stripper to a TLN highend escort -- in Cuba I'd be okay with one girl a day if it was quality).

I am well into middle age now and no longer the "hansum man" I once was, but then again I'm not looking for freebies. I speak reasonable (but not fluent) Spanish. I have travelled extensively in the developing world and am not usually phased by third world challenges (although having to carry all my money in cash and chasing an illegal activity in a totalitarian country do concern me a bit). I'm more into the blancas and mullatas than the dark Caribbean negras, and svelte natural girls rather than big bootie or silicone. 18 to 25 is my favorite age range, up into the early thirties is okay, but if you tell me I have to pick women my own age I might as well stay home. I mostly like to take my time and be a gentleman, BBBJ and DFK are high priorities.

Given my tight schedule I think I'd have to confine myself to Havana and nearby areas (maybe a few days in Guanabo?) It sounds like an "independent apartment" from Air BNB or similar is the way to go. I enjoy clubs and music (although it appears some of the best are closed). I've never really picked up girls on the street in other countries, I'm open but wonder if my age will permit that. Can I get laid on a six day trip to Cuba? With the type of women I like? Any other advice? FWIW I'm a US cit coming from southern Cali.

Thanks in advance.

[Uncle Volodya]

Walked along the Malecon, lots of young mulattos w fine ass. Don't know if they were pro, but dressed seductive and made lots of eye contact.

Turned into Avenida 23 (a street that intersects with Malecon) at around 9 pm and saw lots of pros (if unsure, say 'chicka' to any local and they'll point you to the right direction). I made eye contact with a cute mulatto girl, told her to come to my place at San Miguel and she said she would follow (local girls can't be seen walking with tourists).

Damage: 50 CUC for the night.

Looks: 3.5/5.

Personality: 4/5.

GFE: Yes.

Extra: now she's my pimp and brings girls and cigars to my place. LOL.

If anyone is in Havana, my buddy just left so I have some time to kill before meet with another friend on Friday. Feel free to contact me for questions or grab a drink. This forum helped me a lot in the past so happy to return the favour.

Sorry for grammar / spelling. Typing efficiently because internet is running out and on mobile.

Cheers.

Thanks for taking the time to post. I know how difficult it can be to get Internet.

Good to hear that La Rampa is going strong and that you are having a good time. Cheers!

Uncle-V.