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  1. #4488

    Que paso?

    Hi there!

    How did it go? Please report back! I am in Havana often but am in need of some fresh input!

    Thanks in advance!

    MjT.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieBallSac  [View Original Post]
    Hello mongers,

    Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.

    Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.

    I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).

    Jinetera pro scene clubs:

    Las Piedras.

    Casa De La Musica.

    Fabrica del Arte.

    Salon Rojo.

    Don Cangrejo.

    El Rio Club (Johnnys).

    Up Down Club.

    La Cecilia.

    El Gato Tuerto (in vedado).

    Bolabana or bollabao?

    Dos Jardenias.

    Shangri La.

    El Tocororo.

    La Gruta.

    Regular bars and clubs:

    Chateau Hotel pool party on Sundays.

    La Terraza.

    Where to find regular Non-pro chicks:

    Beach.

    Cafes and parks in Obispo, Havana Vieja, Prada, Parque Centro, Inglaterra Terrace.

  2. #4487

    Newbie mistakes but fun anyway!

    Apologies first of all for a really late report.

    I arrived on the 7th (Dec) and didn't get to the casa and settled in until about 7:00 pm. Even after a few days in Playa del Carmen, it felt really humid and stinking hot to this northerner.

    I decided to walk the Malecon from my casa in Vedado (Thanks for the tip Mondo!) toward old town just to scout out the lay of the land as it were.

    I lost track of how many jinteras propositioned me in that walk but it must have been at least 30 including 2 who spoke very good English and weren't that easily put off. Now the first Newb mistake! Tired, hot and a bit footsore, I decided to just rest up the first night and come back to the buffet the next night: The weather went to sh*t the next day. For the next 5 days in Havana, every night that wasn't raining, the wind was driving the surf hard enough to spray over the sea wall sometimes right to the street. No ladies to be seen. On the other hand, I got in lots of time doing most of the touristy things I wanted to do around Havana.

    After that, I went touring around for 8 days: Vinales, Trinidad, Cienfuegos and Guanabo before returning to Havana for one last night before flying home. I didn't really try that hard on the road trip in all honesty. Smaller places, non-independent casas and the language barrier but I had a lot of fun anyway doing the tourist thing.

    In Guanabo, I was approached by one young cutie while checking my Email in the park. Small, dark and nicely built, after so long with no success, just talking to her had me struggling to hide a rager as she followed me back to the casa I'd rented for the night. Clearly, Nadia had a baby but she was in great shape. Sadly, in my excitement, I agreed to pay her 40 CUC in advance and her performance wasn't on par with her looks. After an okay but not great BBBJ, she covered me up and rode me to a fairly quick finish to round 1. I refused when she asked for 20 more for round 2 but we settled at 10. Making a worse mistake, I gave her that immediately instead of after the fact. After about 15 more minutes she claimed she was too hungry to continue and started dressing. Realizing how bad I'd screwed it up, I declined to argue the point and let her go. Oh well, lesson learned!

    Thanks again to all the brothers who gave good advice: They aren't responsible for my mistakes!

    Sorry to the guys I was supposed to hook up with while I was there. It took me a few days to get a SIM card for my phone and an internet card. Before I could figure that process out, my phone was stolen and with it all of my WhatsApp and Email contacts. I was pretty unhappy for a couple of days!

    All in all, it was still a worthwhile trip and I'm confident it will go better next time though I'm not yet sure when that will be.

    Happy New Year all! WS.

  3. #4486

    Cuc

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    Do you really have to convert some Dollars into CUCs?

    Not so long ago, one could get by in Havana with just a wad of dollars. Everyone would not only take, but want Dollars! Chicas, private taxis, private guides, casa particulars, paladares, etc.

    Strangely some people have mentioned paying chicas in CUCS. Perhaps, the government has cracked-down on the dollarized economy that had developed.
    Yes you need to convert dollars to cuc most of the girls I encounter don't even know the exchange value (outside Havana) no store / bar / restaurant etc will take dollars. As the taxis goes I always rent a car so I have no idea if they take it or not. P.S. You will always get a better rate if you have $100 bills the exchange rate on the st is at 96 and that's the minimum you should exchange at unlemm you are doing it at a cadeca and the. You only getting 87.

  4. #4485

    Re:

    Frankie,

    I am in South Florida as well and have been pondering a trip to Havana. If you need a wingman, I would love to learn the force from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieBallSac  [View Original Post]
    Hello mongers,

    Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.

    Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.

    I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).

    Jinetera pro scene clubs:

    Las Piedras.

    Casa De La Musica.

    Fabrica del Arte.

    Salon Rojo.

    Don Cangrejo...
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  5. #4484

    Travel to Havana

    Thinking going to Havana week of 7th Jan 2017 any recommendations for girl friendly place to stay near action?

  6. #4483

    Dollars and CUCs

    Do you really have to convert some Dollars into CUCs?

    Not so long ago, one could get by in Havana with just a wad of dollars. Everyone would not only take, but want Dollars! Chicas, private taxis, private guides, casa particulars, paladares, etc.

    Strangely some people have mentioned paying chicas in CUCS. Perhaps, the government has cracked-down on the dollarized economy that had developed.

  7. #4482
    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo707  [View Original Post]
    BTW, I'll be in la Habana beginning Wednesday the 11th, let me know if you pull the trigger and make in it from Miami. I'll be there for 2 weeks.

    I'll buy you a Bucanero or Crystal and maybe we can get lucky and score some chicas while there.

    Mondo.
    Sounds like fun Mondo, my birthday is actually on January 12th that Thursday I had some plans that weekend to do a champagne room and also meet a regular for OTC. But I will definitely keep you posted when I fly. [Deleted by Admin]

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  8. #4481

    La Habana, January 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieBallSac  [View Original Post]
    Hello mongers,

    Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.

    Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.

    I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).

    Jinetera pro scene clubs:

    Las Piedras.

    Casa De La Musica.

    Fabrica del Arte.

    Salon Rojo.

    Don Cangrejo.

    El Rio Club (Johnnys).

    Up Down Club.

    La Cecilia.

    El Gato Tuerto (in vedado).

    Bolabana or bollabao?

    Dos Jardenias.

    Shangri La.

    El Tocororo.

    La Gruta.

    Regular bars and clubs:

    Chateau Hotel pool party on Sundays.

    La Terraza.

    Where to find regular Non-pro chicks:

    Beach.

    Cafes and parks in Obispo, Havana Vieja, Prada, Parque Centro, Inglaterra Terrace.
    Hey FBS,

    I don't know if I gave you that designation but if I did I hope you live up to it. LOL.

    BTW, I'll be in la Habana beginning Wednesday the 11th, let me know if you pull the trigger and make in it from Miami. I'll be there for 2 weeks.

    I'll buy you a Bucanero or Crystal and maybe we can get lucky and score some chicas while there.

    Mondo.

  9. #4480

    Any other recommendations

    Hello mongers,

    Happy 2017. I am a seasoned Miami, Florida veteran, I have the prestigious title of the Strip Club Guru given to me by Mondo707 himself LO.

    Any-who, noticing how cheap flights have gotten to Cuba especially Miami to Havana I decided to pay this island a visit but haven't decided on any dates yet.

    I did my research reading some older posts, if you mongers can add anything I missed it would be greatly appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the pro scene (jinetera) and non-pro scene (nice girls).

    Jinetera pro scene clubs:

    Las Piedras.

    Casa De La Musica.

    Fabrica del Arte.

    Salon Rojo.

    Don Cangrejo.

    El Rio Club (Johnnys).

    Up Down Club.

    La Cecilia.

    El Gato Tuerto (in vedado).

    Bolabana or bollabao?

    Dos Jardenias.

    Shangri La.

    El Tocororo.

    La Gruta.

    Regular bars and clubs:

    Chateau Hotel pool party on Sundays.

    La Terraza.

    Where to find regular Non-pro chicks:

    Beach.

    Cafes and parks in Obispo, Havana Vieja, Prada, Parque Centro, Inglaterra Terrace.

  10. #4479

    December in Havana

    I flew into Havana and spent four nights near Plaza Vieja. Found a nice completely independent apartment. This was during the mourning period so I didn't go searching out the clubs as they were reportedly all closed. I contacted a chica that was a friend of another chica I know that has escaped Cuba. She was really pretty, a solid 8. 5, and only 19 years old. However she had a baby two years ago so her stomach was not perfect. But she agreed to deliver all the services I requested for my offer of $60. It was great service from a regular girl. She's studying to be a doctor and has four years left of medical school. Next I called a chica I met in public two years ago and back then we had a great time together. But I decided not to see her because I was disappointed to learn she now has a one year old. Funny story. After texting her I called a few hours later and her dad answered the phone and was trying to facilitate the meeting LOL. I'm still regretting not getting back together with her because her oral skills were excellent as I recall. So I'll probably see her my next trip. Another night I found a cool bicitaxi guy to take me around some streets near usually open clubs where I could find some talent. In short order I picked out a nice one for agreed rate of $50 and she followed behind in a second taxi back to my place. I'm happy to PM the bicitaxi guy phone number to anyone wanting it but really you just need to talk to a few guys and you'll find a good one. My last night I saw a really hot young chica walking down the street with her friend so I joined them and asked where they were going. Turns out she just turned 18 in October. They were going to have a beer at a place where their other girlfriend just started working. We had a beer together there and then I took them both out for dinner so this turned into quite an investment. But this one chica is pretty damn hot. Anyhow I asked her to come over to my place about an hour after dinner. I wanted time to shower and get ready first. She did in fact show up. Again I paid $60 but wasn't full service because she wouldn't do BBBJ. But the sex was great. I want to go back to Havana just to see her. Again she was a regular girl. Has a normal job cutting and styling hair. THIS is the awesome thing about Havana imo. You don't need to walk the malecon and take a hardened pro. You can feel comfortable approaching any chica and expect they will want to know you better and make a few extra bucks.

    Beach info: I met up with another hobbiest and joined him for a beach day at Playa Santa Maria about twenty minutes out of town. He was married up with a chica he met a couple days before. Anyhow it's a pretty nice beach not too far from town. Rented chairs for $2 each and had beers delivered for $1. 50 each.

    Telephone info: To get a local SIM card you need to bring your passport and wait in line at one of the ETECSA stores. The airport location was closed the evening I arrived. So I had to wait at the very busy Obisbo Street location. Not unusual for the line to be a couple hours wait time. The SIM card cost is $40 which includes $10 of usage. Both calls and texts are charged against your balance. It can be recharged at www.ding.com whch is nice and easy. Personally I wouldn't go without a local phone number so I think it's well worth standing in line for two hours and paying the $40. This ETECSA store is the same place you can buy internet cards for $2/ hour with a three card maximum.

    Changing money: There is some demand on the streets for USA Dollars. The going rate seemed to be 95 cuc for 100 USA I opted to take only 93 per 100 USA From a local that I know and trust. So he probably made 2 per 100 for his time and effort. It was worth it to me. The "Casa de Cambio" lines are usually about 30 to 40 minutes in Havana. I know this because I stood in line twice to change euros into cuc. Also I would recommend carrying the locals' currency as well. It goes by several names but "moneda nacional" would be most easily understood. I found out my first morning with a hangover and wanting to buy some orange juice that some small tiendas will only accept the locals' currency. Unlike years ago the casas de cambio are now allowed to distribute moneda nacional to tourists. So you should carry both cuc (pesos convertibles) and moneda nacional (pesos de cubanos).

    After Havana I visited a few other towns and cities so I'll write up a report when I have time.

  11. #4478

    La Habana, 500th year anniversary

    Hey fellow mongers.

    I mentioned in a post below about this event taking place in 2019! No, do not misunderstand me, reason I post this at year's end 2016 is because if I am right it'll be almost impossible to attend these celebrations that will take place then.

    So, my heads up, if you are interested in culture (Cuban) I strongly recommend you make plans way in advance and get your reservations lined up so as not to miss out on this event which will prolly take place for the month of November.

    Who knows things might change and the future is never certain but again I'll be making my plans on my next visit to reserve the apartment I stay at.

    BTW, Kalifornication, I agree with your assessment, problem is most people have an understanding of world events thru the MSM and as you prolly know, there is no other side of the story reporting. It's a sad day when still a whole lot of folks here believe Saddam had WMD's. That's why I have given up trying to argue things out in a civilized manner.

    Mondo.

  12. #4477
    I'm too tired to give a long winded reply. Your analysis is presented well and it is clear you are a thinker. But compare accurately, Cuban "communism" is not soviet communism, it is more cubanism, the application of socialism within a uniquely Cuban context. More importamtly, Cuba is an island, not a continent. For that reason alone, I'll have to say your analysis is flawed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin345  [View Original Post]
    I can see where you're coming from.

    Of course no one in their right minds will give up the free stuff they have.

    However, Cubans that I've met were very envious of the perceived level of wealth that "the West" enjoyed. Additionally, not many of them seem to be aware of the responsibilities and the consequences that will follow the introduction of free market economy. Only a handful of highly educated people were 'somewhat' aware of this and were in favor of slow and gradual change of their economic system towards capitalism. If they were to have an all out election right now, I highly doubt they will be rational and patient enough to choose a path that will lead them toward capitalism gradually / slowly. It seems like a large portion of the Cuban population seem to think opening their economy and adopting capitalism will solve all of their problems. Of course, this is what many former communist countries' citizens initially thought and the current Cuban government is well aware of it. Hence, the current Cuban government is keeping the media and the people on a tight leash to keep people under control. However, I'm skeptical that the Cuban government will be able to keep this pace of gradual progress once Raul Castro is dead. First of all, the middle / upper class in Cuba is already rising as country steps towards capitalism gradually. This creates an overwhelming angst and desire among the rest of the Cuban population to become rich and to be able to upgrade their quality of living. Secondly, they'll inevitably have to move towards direct-democracy once the charismatic leader Raul Castro (who played a huge role in la Revolution) is gone (in which case I predict the country turning into Yeltsin's Russia not too long after or turning into former communist Eastern European nations which rapidly adopted free market economy without enough preparation (they by the way could use a 'ethnicity / nationalism' card but Cuba doesn't have such racial tension that a government can utilize in galvanizing support from its people) or even if the current Cuban government succeeds in maintaining their political power, it will be hard to keep people's vanity / greed under control (just look at China and Vietnam, if it wasn't for the fast pace of their economic development, the ruling parties in both countries would have been long gone). If the Cuban government loses the tight grip it has on its people (which I believe will happen sooner or later) it will turn into another post-Chavez Venezuela. Surely there are supporters of Maduro and Chavez in Venezuela but there also are significant number of people who are against Chavez-Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. Also, remember the Venezuelan model was only functional when the oil price was high. Well Cuba doesn't even have that so it's going to be even more difficult for the government to maintain the system functional once the government's grip on its people weakens after Raul steps down / passes away.

    As for Canada, I'll tell you this. Canadians are only in favor of the universal health care because wealthy Canadians who can afford private health care are able to and almost always do skip the line by traveling down south to the US for their x-rays, surgeries, etc. If Canadians had to choose between living in a society that is equal, sustainable, but poor and a society that is not very equal but where they can improve their qualities of lives by accumulating their wealth, almost 100% of Canadians will choose the latter. Just consider the reason why most Canadians from Atlantic Canada (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Islands, New Brunswick) moved to Alberta during the oil boom and why now everyone's moving to British Columbia (or even the US).

  13. #4476

    Agree to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin345  [View Original Post]
    I can see where you're coming from.

    Of course no one in their right minds will give up the free stuff they have.

    However, Cubans that I've met were very envious of the perceived level of wealth that "the West" enjoyed. Additionally, not many of them seem to be aware of the responsibilities and the consequences that will follow the introduction of free market economy. Only a handful of highly educated people were 'somewhat' aware of this and were in favor of slow and gradual change of their economic system towards capitalism. If they were to have an all out election right now, I highly doubt they will be rational and patient enough to choose a path that will lead them toward capitalism gradually / slowly. It seems like a large portion of the Cuban population seem to think opening their economy and adopting capitalism will solve all of their problems. Of course, this is what many former communist countries' citizens initially thought and the current Cuban government is well aware of it. Hence, the current Cuban government is keeping the media and the people on a tight leash to keep people under control. However, I'm skeptical that the Cuban government will be able to keep this pace of gradual progress once Raul Castro is dead. First of all, the middle / upper class in Cuba is already rising as country steps towards capitalism gradually. This creates an overwhelming angst and desire among the rest of the Cuban population to become rich and to be able to upgrade their quality of living. Secondly, they'll inevitably have to move towards direct-democracy once the charismatic leader Raul Castro (who played a huge role in la Revolution) is gone (in which case I predict the country turning into Yeltsin's Russia not too long after or turning into former communist Eastern European nations which rapidly adopted free market economy without enough preparation (they by the way could use a 'ethnicity / nationalism' card but Cuba doesn't have such racial tension that a government can utilize in galvanizing support from its people) or even if the current Cuban government succeeds in maintaining their political power, it will be hard to keep people's vanity / greed under control (just look at China and Vietnam, if it wasn't for the fast pace of their economic development, the ruling parties in both countries would have been long gone). If the Cuban government loses the tight grip it has on its people (which I believe will happen sooner or later) it will turn into another post-Chavez Venezuela. Surely there are supporters of Maduro and Chavez in Venezuela but there also are significant number of people who are against Chavez-Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. Also, remember the Venezuelan model was only functional when the oil price was high. Well Cuba doesn't even have that so it's going to be even more difficult for the government to maintain the system functional once the government's grip on its people weakens after Raul steps down / passes away.

    As for Canada, I'll tell you this. Canadians are only in favor of the universal health care because wealthy Canadians who can afford private health care are able to and almost always do skip the line by traveling down south to the US for their x-rays, surgeries, etc. If Canadians had to choose between living in a society that is equal, sustainable, but poor and a society that is not very equal but where they can improve their qualities of lives by accumulating their wealth, almost 100% of Canadians will choose the latter. Just consider the reason why most Canadians from Atlantic Canada (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Islands, New Brunswick) moved to Alberta during the oil boom and why now everyone's moving to British Columbia (or even the US).
    Hey G345,

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Since you've already made up your mind which way Cuba is heading I"ll make you a bet! Let's meet in La Habana on the 500th anniversary of the city (11/2019) I'll be there if nothing happens before then to impede my plans.

    My bet if things have change as you suggest, I'll buy you drinks and dinner at La Bodeguita del Medio or El Floridita or any comparable joint or paladar of your choosing in La Habana, in case they have not moved as fast as you suggest then you'll buy me the same. Let me know.

    La Habana will be happening BIG time at this time, so hope you can make it.

    BTW, Raul will be gone next year (2018) so you'll have almost 2 years to have your prediction come to fruition.

    Mondo.

    P.S. This is all for now, let's get back to the thread and hopefully some reports from mongers from there.

  14. #4475
    I can see where you're coming from.

    Of course no one in their right minds will give up the free stuff they have.

    However, Cubans that I've met were very envious of the perceived level of wealth that "the West" enjoyed. Additionally, not many of them seem to be aware of the responsibilities and the consequences that will follow the introduction of free market economy. Only a handful of highly educated people were 'somewhat' aware of this and were in favor of slow and gradual change of their economic system towards capitalism. If they were to have an all out election right now, I highly doubt they will be rational and patient enough to choose a path that will lead them toward capitalism gradually / slowly. It seems like a large portion of the Cuban population seem to think opening their economy and adopting capitalism will solve all of their problems. Of course, this is what many former communist countries' citizens initially thought and the current Cuban government is well aware of it. Hence, the current Cuban government is keeping the media and the people on a tight leash to keep people under control. However, I'm skeptical that the Cuban government will be able to keep this pace of gradual progress once Raul Castro is dead. First of all, the middle / upper class in Cuba is already rising as country steps towards capitalism gradually. This creates an overwhelming angst and desire among the rest of the Cuban population to become rich and to be able to upgrade their quality of living. Secondly, they'll inevitably have to move towards direct-democracy once the charismatic leader Raul Castro (who played a huge role in la Revolution) is gone (in which case I predict the country turning into Yeltsin's Russia not too long after or turning into former communist Eastern European nations which rapidly adopted free market economy without enough preparation (they by the way could use a 'ethnicity / nationalism' card but Cuba doesn't have such racial tension that a government can utilize in galvanizing support from its people) or even if the current Cuban government succeeds in maintaining their political power, it will be hard to keep people's vanity / greed under control (just look at China and Vietnam, if it wasn't for the fast pace of their economic development, the ruling parties in both countries would have been long gone). If the Cuban government loses the tight grip it has on its people (which I believe will happen sooner or later) it will turn into another post-Chavez Venezuela. Surely there are supporters of Maduro and Chavez in Venezuela but there also are significant number of people who are against Chavez-Maduro regime in Venezuela as well. Also, remember the Venezuelan model was only functional when the oil price was high. Well Cuba doesn't even have that so it's going to be even more difficult for the government to maintain the system functional once the government's grip on its people weakens after Raul steps down / passes away.

    As for Canada, I'll tell you this. Canadians are only in favor of the universal health care because wealthy Canadians who can afford private health care are able to and almost always do skip the line by traveling down south to the US for their x-rays, surgeries, etc. If Canadians had to choose between living in a society that is equal, sustainable, but poor and a society that is not very equal but where they can improve their qualities of lives by accumulating their wealth, almost 100% of Canadians will choose the latter. Just consider the reason why most Canadians from Atlantic Canada (Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Islands, New Brunswick) moved to Alberta during the oil boom and why now everyone's moving to British Columbia (or even the US).

  15. #4474

    Cuba rushing to be a Capitalist country?

    Hey G345,

    While I agree with most of your post, I beg to differ with your assessment of "Cuba rushing to become a full blown capitalist country".

    Like any country on earth (Cuba is no exception) there are the right / left / center factions within the society.

    Since you mentioned you are from Canada, I'm almost certain that the majority of Canadians would never give up their health system to have a full blown health system like we do down south of you, with drug prices out of control, where Congress passed a law years ago to restrict itself (the government) to purchase meds from big pharma at the best posible price using their buying power in the process (no kidding!

    Back to Cuba, Most Cubans, those in support of the system and those opposed to it would not want their health / education touch in a reform towards a more open system. I should know since I know people / family for and against what's going on these days down there.

    BTW, In case you are not aware of it, Cuba with its health system (as a poor under develop in terms of material stuff) has the lowest infant mortality rate in the Americas, that includes Canada and USA and every other country south of the Rio Grande, just an FYI.

    So, while changes will be coming to their economy, I am certain they will not become a China or Vietnam any time soon.

    Mondo.

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