Havana

[BeersTerry]

Question: How are you going to find the normal girl when they don't speak any ingles, don't frequent tourist areas and you are there for a week ?

[Exoticspirit]

Look, you seem like a good enough guy. But your clearly naive in the ways of world outside the US.

I live in Costa Rica and am in the cigar business. Many of my clients in the states send money Western Union to pay for cigars. Without fail, every time I go to the office I see a girl there picking up money from some gringo she's not fucking anymore. Sometimes handing it to the deadbeat she is fucking. You seem to fit this profile, so let me break it down for you.

We in this hobby, male and female, are professionals. Provider and monger alike. What we do with these ladies is a business transaction. To them, and to us. Some of these ladies are good at what they do. But make no mistake, it's still business.

I've eaten at restaurants that amazed me. But never did I feel the need to pay the check, then send the restaurant money over and over again after I'd left. You should take this approach when dealing with working girls, especially in Cuba.

Yes, I undertand this. But I'm asking about the non-working girls, ie., the ones who work in 'normal' jobs. Just trying to compare them with the usual non-working women in North America.

[Golds]

Rule 1: Never take the Cubana out of Cuba.
Want to see what North America does to them ? Go to Miami.

There are a handful of good restaurants in Havana. You just need to find them.

PLease how are the Cubanas when they arrive in Miami, can you describe it????

[Jonesie]

Is this suggesting that we should just regard Cuba as strictly a monger destination and the women (including the non-pro 'civilians') there should never be trusted for serious relationships?

Look, you seem like a good enough guy. But your clearly naive in the ways of world outside the US.

I live in Costa Rica and am in the cigar business. Many of my clients in the states send money Western Union to pay for cigars. Without fail, every time I go to the office I see a girl there picking up money from some gringo she's not fucking anymore. Sometimes handing it to the deadbeat she is fucking. You seem to fit this profile, so let me break it down for you.

We in this hobby, male and female, are professionals. Provider and monger alike. What we do with these ladies is a business transaction. To them, and to us. Some of these ladies are good at what they do. But make no mistake, it's still business.

I've eaten at restaurants that amazed me. But never did I feel the need to pay the check, then send the restaurant money over and over again after I'd left. You should take this approach when dealing with working girls, especially in Cuba.

[Exoticspirit]

Yea, thats right!

Is this suggesting that we should just regard Cuba as strictly a monger destination and the women (including the non-pro 'civilians') there should never be trusted for serious relationships?

[Kalifornication]

Miami is where they all end up after leaving the spouse that got them into North America.

Yea, thats right!

[BeersTerry]

Miami is where they all end up after leaving the spouse that got them into North America.

[Weak Ender]

Rule 1: Never take the Cubana out of Cuba.

Want to see what North America does to them? Go to Miami.

There are a handful of good restaurants in Havana. You just need to find them.

Coming from a Miami native(yes there are a few), we have a saying here that MOST women from other countries rot in customs. In other words once they get in they totally change and become rotten just like the native women. In spanish it sound mush better "Se pudren en la aduana". And to multiply that exponentially, she is from Cuba! No way man, they are the most shysters out there. Never trust a cuban woman, remember their culture is tainted by soviet era morals. Please don't get me wrong they fuck like animals though. I have travelled a bit and this is rule number one for an american, atleast. Never bring a girl in that can not come in by herself. If she is a successful lawyer in country X and she is making a sacrifice that is one thing but if she is desperate to get out, she will do or say almost anything to whomever to get what she wants.

I know someone who sponsored a girl from Colombia to come visit him and travel to Disney world together. They went and had a good time. When it was time to leave she said she could not pass up this oppurtunity and had someone pick her up at his house and dissappeared. Now he can't sponsor anyone, not even a fiancee for ten years I think it was.

That sucks!

[Exoticspirit]

Rule 1: Never take the Cubana out of Cuba.
Want to see what North America does to them ? Go to Miami.

There are a handful of good restaurants in Havana. You just need to find them.

I met a guy in Montreal once who brought back a Cuban wife. They have been happily married for ten years. Don't know if this is the exception or not.

So what's with the Cuban women in Miami?

[Sammytheman]

. I see guys complain about the food and what not, but then I think that if all you guys knew where the good places were, I'd never get a table.

Thanks for posting

Hey Jonesie, I am going to Havana next Friday. Can you PM me the good places to eat? This is the 1st time I am going non AI and taking a buddy of mine on his 1st trip outside Canada lol. I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

[BeersTerry]

Rule 1: Never take the Cubana out of Cuba.
Want to see what North America does to them ? Go to Miami.

There are a handful of good restaurants in Havana. You just need to find them.

[Exoticspirit]

Exoticspirit

Be careful about relationships with Cubanas.

Everything is rosy while your in sunny Cuba but the situation usually changes once your back home.I have first hand experience and learned the hard way like alot of mongers on this board.

Good Luck

Thanks Adinga. I already decided while I was down there that I wasn't going to pursue any long distance relationship for now, especially with the complications of dealing with Cuba in general. That's why I ended up at Salon Rojo for my last evening there.

I may end up regretting my decision in the future especially if North American women continue to [CodeWord140] me off over the next couple of months!

[Jonesie]

I would agree about taking Cubanas out of Cuba. I think there's a course they take on immigration fraud at the University there. Particularly involving US citizens and our immigration laws regarding Cubans. It's called wet feet/dry feet. Meaning she could fuck every man in your family and every friend you have and she won't be deported.

Enjoy the petting zoo, but don't take them home with you.

[Adinga]

Exoticspirit

Be careful about relationships with Cubanas.

Everything is rosy while your in sunny Cuba but the situation usually changes once your back home.I have first hand experience and learned the hard way like alot of mongers on this board.

Good Luck

[Exoticspirit]

I always cringe when I read a report from Cuba rookies when they get taken for ride. But I'm glad you had a good time.

As mentioned before, the chica went back for her cut. Those casas cost 10cuc for a quickie. And it seemed you had a decent time with her even after paying first. All in all, I'd give you high marks for a newbie report.

Havana's a tough walk if you don't know your way around. I see guys complain about the food and what not, but then I think that if all you guys knew where the good places were, I'd never get a table.

Thanks for posting

Well, at least her private taxi was in an acceptable range because this casa was about a 3 minute walk back to the hotel Cohiba. I would have paid the same $10 to get back anyway from Salon Rojo.

The best food in Cuba actually came from the casa I used for my first two nights there, also within walking distance to the Cohiba. The casa owner's son cooked me dinner for $5.

As for a non-mongering angle, a fellow passenger on the plane on the way down told me he married a Cuban about a year ago but has not started arrangements to bring her back to Canada yet. Since internet is crappy, his phone bills are $600 per month. He is staying down there for a month and seeing more of the country with his wife. He estimates that it will cost him $20 K to eventually bring her back to Canada after getting through all the immigration hurdles.

I actually met a nice local lady who was a restaurant hostess near old Havana and had thoughts of pursuing a real relationship but thinking about all the hassles that his guy told me, I decided not to, given the short duration that I was in town. I hope I don't have huge regrets.