Havana

[El Cubanito]

I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. Before I do, I will say I met Kalifornication through this forum and now consider him to be a good friend.

I don’t think this is the place for personal attacks, but I agree with Smokers Rule that this forum is about sharing information and meeting other like-minded members. I want to read about restaurants that rip off tourists; I want to know about scams that girls run on people so I can avoid them – and yes if people have issues with other members I’d like to know about that too. Cuba is a different place. Many of us go there without ATM or Credit Card access so it’s not the same as other destinations.

I realize it can be a fine line between flaming someone and reporting an incident, but if you read back through the posts Kalifornication did not name names – El Cubanito came clean himself. I think that was a stand-up thing to do.

All I can say at this point is I don’t think the posts should be deleted and I’d like to read about it when the debt is settled. I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.

The post should not be deleted. I met Kalifornication by his other name, but when I read it, I knew he was talking about me. Owing up to your mistake is what a man should do. At least that is the way my father raise me.

El Cubanito

[El Cubanito]

Those of us that go to Cuba know that it's easy to spend more than you thought you would. I've done it on more than one occasion. Guys I've gone with have as well. I've lent money to fellow gringos and I've been lent money when I've miscalculated my costs in Cuba. I'd like to think that if I were in a jam, my friends would bail me out. I'd also like to think I'd do it for someone else again.

Lending people money is a personal decision that should be kept in the personal realm. I don't think this is the place to "mediate" grievances between our fellows.

A. Don't lend money you can't afford to lose.

B. If a friend bails you out of a jam, make right with him.

I just got back from my trip. I'll post a report later tonight or tomorrow.

I have personally been robbed by Cubans in Cuba. Did I flip out, no I just move on. I have lend money to people in the airport that do not have the money to pay to get out of Cuba. Money comes and go, Friendship are to be treasured.

I agree with A & B from above with you.

El Cubanito

[El Cubanito]

Kalifornication & El Cubanito and I planned a trip a year and half ago. El Cubanito bailed out and didn't go. I went with Kalifornication and since then we have become friends. Kalifornication is a great guy and I can vouch that he is a stand-up, honorable person.

For a long time I have been a second hand witness to the conflict between Kalifornication & El Cubanito. Everything I've seen leads me to believe El Cubanito owes Kalifornication money and has evaded paying it. Granted, my perspective is one-sided, but I have no dog in this fight.

Digital Curry

I am glad you can confirm my money situation. I did not go because I DID NOT wanted to go. But because I had short funds back then, plus IT DID NOT LOOKED ME OWING HIM THE MONEY.

[El Cubanito]

Kalifornication & El Cubanito and I planned a trip a year and half ago. El Cubanito bailed out and didn't go. I went with Kalifornication and since then we have become friends. Kalifornication is a great guy and I can vouch that he is a stand-up, honorable person.

For a long time I have been a second hand witness to the conflict between Kalifornication & El Cubanito. Everything I've seen leads me to believe El Cubanito owes Kalifornication money and has evaded paying it. Granted, my perspective is one-sided, but I have no dog in this fight.

Digital Curry

Digital Curry,

I am not ducking Kalifornication. I will pay him back his money. There are other issues that you sort of know about it a little, I think. Remember the phone conversation we had? I am not going to post that here, but that is my beef with him and he knows it. Even when I owes him the money we would talk about 5 to 8 times a day. We stopped communcating not because of the money. But because of other issues.


I WILL PAY HIM BACK his money.

El Cubanito

[Jonesie]

I woke up Sunday with a stiffy and started flipping through my phone for a remedy. Of the 7-8 girls I called, Lauren was the first to call me back.

Lauren is a dirty girl. In a good way.

She arrived and gave me an exceptional blow-job. Again, the bottom of the balls licking didn't go unappreciated. She fucked me thoroughly until I pulled out and blasted on her stomach. She left with a well earned 50cuc and I called Jetzun to arrange lunch before I had to head to the airport.

Lauren

[Jonesie]

On the second day in Havana, Juan Almeda died. Apparently, Mr. Almeda was one of the original gangsta's in 59 and many of the state offices and business were ordered closed. Including the discos. Couldn't he have held out until Monday after I was gone?

We went to a few empty parking lots looking for the party without luck.

We finally went to the Candy Store hoping a foreign investment group wouldn't be observing this guys passing.

The Candy Store was unimpressive. The tourist/puta ratio sucked. I found one hottie, but she brought a homely friend that she refused to let fend for herself. She first offered 2 girls, then she said her price would be 80cuc, but I'd need to give 20cuc to her friend for a taxi home. I pointed out that that was 100cuc. She shrugged. I wished her luck.

After finding Jetzun suitable entertainment, I left and went walking down La Rampa. I spotted three black girls walking onto a dark side-street and followed. As I approached, an ugly one asked if I wanted company. I told her yes, I wouldn't mind going back to my place with her skinny friend. Her friend asked me how much, I returned the question. She said 40cuc, I said 30cuc. She countered with 35cuc. We got a taxi.

Cristina was a ball-licker like many of her Cubana sisters. I'd say she delivered a little more than 35cuc, so I gave her 40cuc on her way out. Not bad.

[Jonesie]

Intro:

Jetzun hit me up on the pm a while back about Cuba. A lot of people hit me up about Cuba. I try to be helpful, at the same time practical. Of the many people that have questions about Cuba, few actually take a trip. Closer to his trip, he confirms and asks if I'd like him to bring me anything down to Costa Rica. I tell him, "I really miss Pace picante sauce, Hormel pre-cooked bacon, and a Old El Paso fajita kit. He says no problem. When you live in Costa Rica, you miss some of the silly things from back home.

So Jetzun arrives with a couple shopping bags full of Fajita kits, Bacon, and two industrial sized containers of Pace picante sauce. I think I'll be growing bacon out of my ears before I finish all of it.

Intro. Guilt by Association

This trip was not without it's obstacles. We got to the airport with a bit of time left. Departed Costa Rica without problems.

Upon approach to Cuba, we were informed that the airport had been closed and we would be flying in circles until they re-opened it. So we flew around for about an hour until we were cleared for landing.

When we landed, immigration was quick, I wish I could say the same for Aduana. Cuban Aduana was completely unprepared for an arriving flight, let alone the back up of flights behind us landing in close succession.

I was carrying a transmission (don't ask), and some car parts for a friend's car, so we were sent to secondary.

The secondary Aduana guys were all to suspicious and none too bright. The guy asked me for my cell phone, when the phone asked for a pin, he demanded to know the pin. I asked "Do you know why Cubacel requires a pin to access the phone"? , he shrugged, "To keep clowns out of other people's phones". This pissed him off and he was not going to dig through everything I brought.

While opening the box with the transmission and pulling it out, a bunch of the packing peanuts spilled out onto the floor. I don't think he cared for this, judging by the look on his face.

Needless to say, we were in Aduana for a while. Jetzun was hassled because he was standing too close to me. Sorry buddy.

A couple hours later, we were changing money and into a taxi towards Havana.

A deal's a deal. Or maybe it's not.

When we got to the Casa, we were informed that instead of 2 rooms, she had one. But. She had pimped one of us out to a neighboring casa for a commission.

I got on the phone to a few casas I knew and we were luckily able to secure a couple single apartments without too much time.

Such is life in Cuba. A person's word is only as good as their options.

First Night. Paradise

After we finally got settled in and met up at the Nacional for cigars before going out, we headed over to La Canitas in the Habana Libre. Only to find the place empty. On a Friday night no less.

So we headed over to La Cecelia. This place wasn't empty. Far from it. As we went in, there were no less than 300 girls in this large outdoor club.

Jetzun's eyes went crazy. It was half delight, half disbelief. We walked a lap and fought off the chicas to get a thorough glance at tonight's menu.

Jetzun spotted this stunning mulatta and asked me to see if we could secure her services for the evening. I pulled her over and she was in fact available for a cultural exchange this evening. I negotiated 70CUC for two pops. Good eye grasshopper.

I then began the interview process and was able to find a lovely companion from last months trip.

Dyanna didn't dissapoint. For a hard earned 70CUC, she treated my balls like a lollipop and brought her 'A' game to two intense rounds of amor.

Nice.

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[Member #4167]

Cuba is not a cheap vacation. Ive been cash strapped before in Cuba and its no fucking joke especially if your American. I applaude the Brother who provided assistance.

For a newby /novice traveler you will need at least 160 CUC daily ($200 US)

Daily Expenses include:
Casa - 35 Cuc
Food - 25 CUC
Drink - 20 CUC
Pussy - 50 CUC
Taxi - 20 CUC
Daily Internet - 5 CUC
Club Entrance - 10 cuc

(This obviously doesnt include Rentacar and Plane ticket)

Remember CASH IS KING in Cuba

Brother Adinga,

Your assessment of Cuba is very perceptive ! Your numbers add up to 165CUC = 198 US Dollars. This could keep a Cubano alive for 2 months! Of course, one could play around with the numbers and maybe shave a little here and a little there.

Many mongers have suggested that the only way to get pvssy is to have a car. A cheap rental car + gas + parking (or security) costs 70 CUC/day (subtract the 20 in taxi - it adds to your 50 cuc/day budget - putting your new budget at $258 US Dollars/day.

[Deep Dive]

Honestly I don't want to read pages of posts back and forth about stuff that I have no clue on or don't want to know about. Anyone who lends money to some stranger without some form of colateral, is just stupid. True, down there you can run out of money real quickly and for me to lend a couple of hundred dollars to some stranger, would never happen. I have given money a few times to guys who didn't have the 25cuc's to pay leaving the country. It all depends on the program you are running. Advise, if you think you're going to spend 200 USD per day, I think this is good number (if you decide to rent a car, you'll spend between 65-90cucs per day plus a 200cuc refundable down payment), then just double it to be on the safe side. Obviously, you don't have to convert all of the money up front, just as you need it. Better safe than sorry.

Obviously, you can setup an account at non-american bank and use the debt card down there. A canadian bank would work. I think all of them work, except for HSBC.

[Smokers Rule]

I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.

I'll definitely let you know.

Let me ask you a question did you enjoy yourself that time you went with him?

Absolutely not. We drove to Trinidad, I got stuck rooming with a chica that was a friend of his chica, sick, and not interested in sex with me, and I ended up taking a bus back to Havana. Not totally his fault, but the answer is no nonetheless.

[Digital Curry]

Kalifornication & El Cubanito and I planned a trip a year and half ago. El Cubanito bailed out and didn't go. I went with Kalifornication and since then we have become friends. Kalifornication is a great guy and I can vouch that he is a stand-up, honorable person.

For a long time I have been a second hand witness to the conflict between Kalifornication & El Cubanito. Everything I've seen leads me to believe El Cubanito owes Kalifornication money and has evaded paying it. Granted, my perspective is one-sided, but I have no dog in this fight.

Digital Curry

What I did is not right and I own up to my mistake. But my buddy had my info and he could have contacted me and said, Hey I really want this money now. By the luck of God my business is turning around and I am coming out of the dull drump that I was in. But I am sure everybody member on this board has experience some type of financial woes or restrain.

Smokers what you buddy did is not right, but do not that. I suggest that you speak to him and STRESS that you really need it now.

But, if you guys are traveling buddies why do this? Let me ask you a question did you enjoy yourself that time you went with him?

[Jonesie]

I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. Before I do, I will say I met Kalifornication through this forum and now consider him to be a good friend.

I don’t think this is the place for personal attacks, but I agree with Smokers Rule that this forum is about sharing information and meeting other like-minded members. I want to read about restaurants that rip off tourists; I want to know about scams that girls run on people so I can avoid them – and yes if people have issues with other members I’d like to know about that too. Cuba is a different place. Many of us go there without ATM or Credit Card access so it’s not the same as other destinations.

I realize it can be a fine line between flaming someone and reporting an incident, but if you read back through the posts Kalifornication did not name names – El Cubanito came clean himself. I think that was a stand-up thing to do.

All I can say at this point is I don’t think the posts should be deleted and I’d like to read about it when the debt is settled. I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.

Those of us that go to Cuba know that it's easy to spend more than you thought you would. I've done it on more than one occasion. Guys I've gone with have as well. I've lent money to fellow gringos and I've been lent money when I've miscalculated my costs in Cuba. I'd like to think that if I were in a jam, my friends would bail me out. I'd also like to think I'd do it for someone else again.

Lending people money is a personal decision that should be kept in the personal realm. I don't think this is the place to "mediate" grievances between our fellows.

A. Don't lend money you can't afford to lose.

B. If a friend bails you out of a jam, make right with him.

I just got back from my trip. I'll post a report later tonight or tomorrow.

[Methos]

I would like to add my two cents to this discussion. Before I do, I will say I met Kalifornication through this forum and now consider him to be a good friend.

I don’t think this is the place for personal attacks, but I agree with Smokers Rule that this forum is about sharing information and meeting other like-minded members. I want to read about restaurants that rip off tourists; I want to know about scams that girls run on people so I can avoid them – and yes if people have issues with other members I’d like to know about that too. Cuba is a different place. Many of us go there without ATM or Credit Card access so it’s not the same as other destinations.

I realize it can be a fine line between flaming someone and reporting an incident, but if you read back through the posts Kalifornication did not name names – El Cubanito came clean himself. I think that was a stand-up thing to do.

All I can say at this point is I don’t think the posts should be deleted and I’d like to read about it when the debt is settled. I would also like to know the outcome of Smokers Rule’s situation so I hope this talk is allowed to continue – without the personal attacks.

[Adinga]

Cuba is not a cheap vacation. Ive been cash strapped before in Cuba and its no fucking joke especially if your American. I applaude the Brother who provided assistance.

For a newby /novice traveler you will need at least 160 CUC daily ($200 US)

Daily Expenses include:
Casa - 35 Cuc
Food - 25 CUC
Drink - 20 CUC
Pussy - 50 CUC
Taxi - 20 CUC
Daily Internet - 5 CUC
Club Entrance - 10 cuc

(This obviously doesnt include Rentacar and Plane ticket)




Remember CASH IS KING in Cuba

[El Rey De Pollo]

Come on, man, with the amount of Cubans trying to steal our money in Cuba, no fucking need for fellow travellers and wingmen to steal our money.

That said, I disagree that the forum is for posting dirty laundry and hanging other posters up to dry. Things are not always black and white, and two people might not agree on who owes who money and how much. And no need for all of us who don't know jack shit about it to start judging.

Then again, I have lately been prooven to be the only one who thought the forum was meant for something else than everybody else, so who knows what the majority thinks belong here or what doesn't.