Havana

[Baudelairemod]

Hi to everybody: I'm Italian and would like to agree and disagree with what said.

1- I don't have a small penis. (and on this I won't make any retirement!) ;-). In any case I think that, except black guys, in every white country there are guts with big and small dick! Right?

2- I really agree with what has been said about Italians when they are out of Italy: they treat everybody as stupid (and then everybody think they are stupid!) and act as apes, thinking that if it isn't their country, why should they care of it?

3- Don't worry in any case when they are at home, often they're worse!ù

4- It is very difficult to see what you call distinguished men abroad, since either they go in strange locations or they stay in Italy (where girls are really stunning, believe me!, but too interested in appearence and money) where their money opens doors and holes very dufficult to open...

Off course I put myself in the group of distinguished gentlemen!.

Hope that defense could at least save me from being located among Italian "apes"

[PincheCabron]

Hey folks. I just recently got back from the island. Mainly santiago for a week and a half and two days in havana. Well not the best trip I had but you can never really have a bad trip in cuba can you. But it was quite a difference from the summer during carnaval and the athmosphere now. I stuck mainly with a couple of chicas I met previously and they were very paranoid with being seen with a foreigner. One was more than content just being in the casa and never going out. During carnaval I guess is when the rules become lax enough that it seems like being back in the good old days. But that only lasted one week. That being said discreet pickups can be had easily in santiago IF you speak decent spanish. Girls were whistling at me left and right when the coast was clear. I saw many pros with their chulo around the melia santiago and the requisite old italians in the restaurants with their escorts for the evening. I didn't any cubanas walking around with their foreign boyfriends in the street though so I think there's something to the paranoia. Especially the puntos de control. My girl's prima was stopped as she rode in the back of a motorino and hauled off. My guess is she has a history but this is the scene at the moment. Originally I had planned to take a bus back to havana to catch my flight but I opted to fly. The main reason I contemplated taking the bus was to gauge the damage from the hurricanes. When I made it to havana I did see more than a few collapsed buildings especially around centro. A few streets had debris blocking the sidewalks for a few weeks now with no attempt to clear it all. The mood in cuba is bad overall as you can imagine with the economic downturn and the hurricanes. Raul is pissing everyone off with his mismanagement of the economy. When people wish Fidel was back in charge things are baaad!

[Kalifornication]

i agree with you 100% thess guys have destroyed cuba and their behavioiur gives the locals a bad impression of all tourists they continue to drive up prices paying $150 - $ 200 for chicas the the chicas expect us to pay it.the local town of guanabo and its surrounding areas not to mention hotel tropicocio santa maria playa and its environs are all virtually italian colonies which means that if you go there to stay or look for chicas the only thing that you are bound to find are high prices and chicas with bad attitudes. cabaret salon rojo and havana cafe are also notoriously packed with italians my wing man was utterly speechless when he realized that 85 % the men in salon rojo were italian 13% cuban and then the remaining 2% included us was a spattering of canadians and man were the prices high!! good thing i went with a chica!! having said all thta cuban chicas are more likely to speak italian than english or anyone other language apart from their native tongue "cuban" oops i mean spanish. there are also chicas who are obsessed with italians and going to italy so the italians will always be in demand. love them or hate them they are their to stay and t be quite honest i find thenm very entertaining as the strut n the clubs beches and the streets paying top dollar to burnt out over priced hard core pros give me the less celebarted regular chicas anytime of the day. having said all that the gentlemen from spain are looking to pick up where the italians left off however each to his own one mans meat is another man's poison and vice versa

this is our backyard, not theirs! ok am am not serious. smile.

but seems as if the ills of capitalism is making its way to europe too. perhaps, given the economic crisis in europe, the will stay local?


industrial output falls again in september, making an italian recession a certainty
italy probably entered a recession in the second half of 2008, international monetary fund and european central bank board member mario draghi indicated last month. after gdp contracted 0.3 percent in the second quarter, ``the most recent indicators confirm negative signs,'' draghi said on oct. 21. europe's fourth- biggest economy will shrink 0.1 percent this year and 0.2 percent next year, the imf said separately.


spain's economy secretary david vegara said the government may revise downward its 2009 growth projection of 1.0 percent because of global turmoil. he said a 0.2 percent contraction was likely in the third quarter of 2008.
and spanish airline iberia, which is discussing a tie-up with british airways, said its third-quarter earnings plunged nearly 80 percent due to soaring fuel prices and weak demand.

[Americano573]

italian boys have the smallest penises in the world apart from the chinese. but they also have the biggest mouths, go figure.

in all seriousness, no huge offense meant to any italians reading, these people have ruined a lot in cuba. there are whole villages in cuba where they have pillaged and fucked and treated the locals like shit, so now the people there hate all tourists.

i don't know what's up with these guys. they have no respect for neither the girls nor the men. off course, there are probably decent italians as well, but they were among the first to discover the treasures of cuba in the 90's and the first to destroy it again.

i agree with you 100% thess guys have destroyed cuba and their behavioiur gives the locals a bad impression of all tourists they continue to drive up prices paying $150 - $ 200 for chicas the the chicas expect us to pay it.the local town of guanabo and its surrounding areas not to mention hotel tropicocio santa maria playa and its environs are all virtually italian colonies which means that if you go there to stay or look for chicas the only thing that you are bound to find are high prices and chicas with bad attitudes. cabaret salon rojo and havana cafe are also notoriously packed with italians my wing man was utterly speechless when he realized that 85 % the men in salon rojo were italian 13% cuban and then the remaining 2% included us was a spattering of canadians and man were the prices high!! good thing i went with a chica!! having said all thta cuban chicas are more likely to speak italian than english or anyone other language apart from their native tongue "cuban" oops i mean spanish. there are also chicas who are obsessed with italians and going to italy so the italians will always be in demand. love them or hate them they are their to stay and t be quite honest i find thenm very entertaining as the strut n the clubs beches and the streets paying top dollar to burnt out over priced hard core pros give me the less celebarted regular chicas anytime of the day. having said all that the gentlemen from spain are looking to pick up where the italians left off however each to his own one mans meat is another man's poison and vice versa

[El Rey De Pollo]

Italian boys have the smallest penises in the world apart from the Chinese. But they also have the biggest mouths, go figure.

In all seriousness, no huge offense meant to any Italians reading, these people have ruined a lot in Cuba. There are whole villages in Cuba where they have pillaged and fucked and treated the locals like shit, so now the people there hate all tourists.

I don't know what's up with these guys. They have no respect for neither the girls nor the men. Off course, there are probably decent Italians as well, but they were among the first to discover the treasures of Cuba in the 90's and the first to destroy it again.

Nah man that is for the Italian boys. They claim there shit is all the way down by there ankle.

I laugh all the time when I see these guys struttling around Cuba.

[El Cubanito]

Exactly. And then imagine if I was one of the ones who had been there stretching it. Then it would really be stretched out :-)

Nah man that is for the Italian boys. They claim there shit is all the way down by there ankle.

I laugh all the time when I see these guys struttling around Cuba.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Exactly. And then imagine if I was one of the ones who had been there stretching it. Then it would really be stretched out :-)

Worn out is about right. That is why I only go for Quality and not quantity. In Quantity you don't know how much that shit been stretch out.

[El Cubanito]

Yeah, must be Cantante...

Add Casa de la musica, Turquino and Salon Rojo to that group of clubs and you've got the full handful of expensive-worn out-hooker-hotspots of Habana.

Worn out is about right. That is why I only go for Quality and not quantity. In Quantity you don't know how much that shit been stretch out.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Yeah, must be Cantante...

Add Casa de la musica, Turquino and Salon Rojo to that group of clubs and you've got the full handful of expensive-worn out-hooker-hotspots of Habana.

Habana Cafe - we all know about it, chicas wanting alot of $$$
Not sure what the other place you are talking about, Cafe Cantante ?

[BeersTerry]

Habana Cafe - we all know about it, chicas wanting alot of $$$
Not sure what the other place you are talking about, Cafe Cantante ?

[QuackUp]

Just got back from Havana. I was with my girlfriend, so no p4p, but we went to two places that seemed to be good to pickup chicas.

First place was a place called Havana Cantarse. Because her sister drove, I'am not sure where this place is located. Anyways, this club has different theme nights for each day of the week. We went on a Sunday night and it was American 70's and 80's rock night.

First it was a dj playing the hits, then around 20:00 a live band comes out singing the songs of the past.

I had to use the bathroom and from where we were sitting, I had to cross the entire room. As I was walking to the bathroom with the long bar to my left, a chica grabs my arm and starts to smile. I told her with sign language to hold on, I need to go to the bathroom. She smiled and nodded.

After using the bathroom, I didn't see the girl again. She might have been dancing, or at another table with someone else. Anyways, if I wasn't with my girlfriend, there seemed to be some good availiablity.

I didn't pay for anything so I'am not sure what the cost was.

The second place was called the Havana club. Located just outside the Melia hotel. More foreigners at this club. Again, just going to the bathroom, caught the eyes of some chicas looking to hookup.

This club is like the latin Hard Rock Cafe, only with live entertainment. This club was alot of fun and not sure if you could score with some of the chicas in the show, but there were a couple that were downright gorgeous.

At both places, the chicas that made contact with me were 7 -8 on the scale from 1 - 10.

Sorry for not having the address or cost of the clubs but hopefully this will help some of the newbies going to Havana who are having trouble finding places to pickup the chicas.

[Baudelairemod]

Hi guys,

Could you suggest me a good casa particular chica-friendly in Habana Vieja?

It would be great if the have email address.

Thanks to everybody!

[El Rey De Pollo]

This being a 'quote of my quote' I should probably reply: I have never said people can't get laid in Cuba without speaking Spanish. This is a town made up of pimps. You can hardly walk 50 meters without some guy offering you pussy.

I never use these guys. For anyone interested in working on their own, Spanish at a fairly good level is just a must. Off course, one might be lucky enough to meet a girl who speaks English (like you have), but these are close to impossible to find. I have spend months in Havana without meeting a single girl who spoke English.

I have done ok as well in recent times based on my limited Spanish (I can carry on a reasonable conversation with bad grammar). But indeed, this has been largely due to help from security guards at hotels and a person who runs a bar near the Capitol (on the street of the Inglaterra Disco) who has a reasonable supply of girls. The bar guy’s girls are not drop-dead gorgeous (as I like them) but do the job and are good for a couple of hours. I must say...
Pegasus

[Pegasus99]

I have done ok as well in recent times based on my limited Spanish (I can carry on a reasonable conversation with bad grammar). But indeed, this has been largely due to help from security guards at hotels and a person who runs a bar near the Capitol (on the street of the Inglaterra Disco) who has a reasonable supply of girls. The bar guy’s girls are not drop-dead gorgeous (as I like them) but do the job and are good for a couple of hours. I must say that my experience with security guards has been much better. I have got at least twice very nice, young, beautiful girls who I continued to see after getting their phone numbers. Very recently, I was just having a drink at a hotel down the street and the security there provided me with an absolute stunner - 18 years old, great body, beautiful eyes and the best sex I have had in Havana so far.

Apart from this, my university girl (see my previous posts) finally delivered on the large amount I spent on her during my first encounter with her and spared no efforts to please me on my last visit. I spent 3 nights with her. Last, but not least, I befriended a young girl who is also definitely not a puta and she finally accepted me as her boyfriend after some persistence and a couple of evenings with her. She now takes me around, spends the day with me and we even spent a weekend together. I contribute to her household to the extent I feel like. Bonus - she speaks very good English and is not afraid to walk hand in hand with me on the streets as she does not fear the cops.

I am very happy to have discovered Havana and enjoy my visits here. For the price I pay in London for a one hour (high class) encounter, I can get sex for 3 to 4 nights, casa included with girls that are younger and are eager to please.

Pegasus

You say: "Pick up chics: Without speaking Spanish, you'll be limited to the hooker-hot spots, which can be divided up into two main categoris: Street and Disco."

My Spanish is not great and El Cubanito can confirm that I've done ok. Brush up on your Spanish as best you can, contact chicas before you go to establish some "trust" and you will be on your way. Good luck.

[Pegasus99]

Forest,

I just sent you the contact information for a very reliable young taxi driver who I have used in the recent past. I am not sure if this guy can help with the chicas but he can try. I don't generally ask taxi drivers for girls as there are many other ways to find good ones. I will post my more recent experiences shortly as you get of course all kinds and I have had mixed luck.

I did find two fantastic casa particulars in Old Havana which I would recommend strongly to anyone who is interested. The ladies who own these are very friendly, the rooms are very clean and they are within a few minutes walk from the Capitol.

Pegasus

A friend of mine is off to Cuba. I have found him a Casa Particular that is chica friendly, and have given him my advice for how to find chicas (having been to havana twice in the last few years), but I know he will have difficulty finding anyone bit the hard core chicas.

Does anyone have a taxi driver/guide who he could hire to take him about havana and introduce him to the scene? He speaks basic Spanish, but I suspect his communication skills aren't too bad.

please pm me if you have any suggestions, Thanks F