Havana

[Vedado Fun]

You would prefere mongering in Saudi Arabia over Cuba? I hope that is one crazy exaggeration?

Since I have allready booked a whole month in Cuba (mainly Havana) in May, I really hope someone will give a second opinion on the status of mongering, crime and life in general in Habana.

I sincerely hope it is not nearly as bad as Doc has been describing?

What Doc says is 100% correct. I feel the same way as he does about Havana. I've been there more than a dozen times. I used to feel really safe there but the last time I was there (Sept 2007) I also felt very uncomfortable in a lot of areas. It's still an ok place to visit and the girls can be great but it's not as easy to find Chicas as it used to be. I would not really recommend Havana as a top mongering destination. If you have to go there for other reasons it's really not too bad but if mongering is your main reason I would look elsewhere.

[Sean EZ]

Hi all my fellow Cubaphiles..

Doc, what about meeting regular/semi/pros in the dance and night clubs in Havana and then arrange for them to come to your casa, or do they have police in the clubs also? There are a lot of positive reports here, how do they manage to have a good time? thanks

[El Rey De Pollo]

You would prefere mongering in Saudi Arabia over Cuba? I hope that is one crazy exaggeration?

Since I have allready booked a whole month in Cuba (mainly Havana) in May, I really hope someone will give a second opinion on the status of mongering, crime and life in general in Habana.

I sincerely hope it is not nearly as bad as Doc has been describing?

[Petrolero]

I am planning to go there in January 2008. But your post has completely discouraged me. Is the situation really bad. I am concerned about your comments about crime in Havana.

Crime expands, the later it gets in Dec, in preparation of New Year's parties.

The entire population in Havana wants to buy pork, beer and rum for the end of the year. Some will steal your camera and money to obtain those things for the house. Others are more willing to sell stuff, at bargain prices. Pickpockets are ripe and multiple, everyday in Chinatown.

You may experience a bit of a cosa hangover in Jan, but maybe not. There aren't many happy faces on the streets this month.

[Doc Bill]

Lankan - Beersterry's right. I don't want to inspire fear, and in perspective Cuba is no doubt safer than many other places (Haiti, Jamaica), but I use the perspective of time. I used to walk the streets of Centro Habana at all hours of the night alone, and I never felt fear and I was never ever approached by anyone in a negative way.

But this time I just felt something different. I didn't feel safe. Then I heard my friends (Cubans) tell how tourists were being attacked, that crime in general has gone up, including violent crime, which in turn has brought on more police (from Oriente), who then think they own Habana, and hassle everybody, which makes the people angry, and angry people commit angry crimes, which brings more oppression....and so the vicious cycle goes.

And I absolutely could not be seen in public with my girlfriend. She illegally traveled (such a crime!) from Guantanamo to see me, and she would have certainly been taken away if we were stopped on the street. So basically we could only be together inside. I know what you're thinking but at my age I just can't have sex 24/7. If she were from Habana it would have been easier, but they are still putting girls away for talking to foreigners. And the darker their skin, the more the chances of trouble.

When Fidel handed over power to Raul about a year ago, Raul, suprisingly to everyone, started talking about easing oppression and opening up. Then one day, literally, that talk all stopped and things got even more oppressive. Word on the street is that Fidel told his little brother to shut the **** up. And he did.

But I digress: Bottom line, I wouldn't think of walking around alone late at night in Habana now. And I wouldn't go back anyway. It's not worth it. Everything's very expensive, you can't talk with the natives, the food sucks, and mongering is probably easier in Saudi Arabia.

[BeersTerry]

Crimes of opportunity have been increasing for a few years now. I do not know if it is because of the youth, but they are disillusioned. It is best to be careful of snatch and runs during the dusk and evening hours. Better yet, leave your valuables at home.

[Lankan_Lover]

Hi Doc,

I have been to cuba couple of times. I am planning to go there in January 2008. But your post has completely discouraged me. Is the situation really bad. I am concerned about your comments about crime in Havana.

[Doc Bill]

Hi all my fellow Cubaphiles. I just got back from a one week trip, having not been there for about two years. Things have gotten a lot worse. Since they do not need tourism, now that they have China, Chavez and oil, they are making it a lot more difficult.

First there's the 20% "fee" you pay to Fidel. Then there's the big crackdown on Cubans who talk with tourists. I was told by more than one source that women are being put into "camps" for 2-6 years for being caught with a tourist. Whereas a few years ago people wouldn't leave me alone, this time I hardly got so much as a look, and I really missed being able to just talk to Cubans, as well as pick up on chicas. Also, there has been a big upswing on crime in general and on crimes against tourists. People are more depressed, angry and desperate.

In a way it's worse than the "Special Period." During the Special Period people had money but there were no things to buy with it. Now it is the inverse - Lots of things but no money, so they live with necessities that they can't have taunting them from store windows. This is worse, at least that's what a lot of them say to me. For the first time in my 12 visits toCuba since 2000, I felt unsafe in the streets - something bad was palpable.

The method of having your casa owner arrange the chica sounds like a good idea. I was there with an old girlfriend, so I didn't go out hunting, but I suspect it wouldn't have been easy. My girl came from Guantanamo - so she was afraid of getting caught just being in Havana (they are not allowed to travel without good reason), and afraid of getting caught with me. This was a total drag. We couldn't go out anywhere together. She said that it wouldn't be so bad if she were from Habana, but that even for Habaneras it's pretty bad.

I went to La Casa de La Musica one night to see Bamboleo (sucked), and as I was leaving the police were stopping every girl that was coming out and questioning them and checking id's. Not one girl in the place gave me anything but a passing glance that seemed to say "I'd love to but I just can't."

I still love Cuba. I have good friends there. But it's more and more difficult to be there. As a mongering destination it would be at or near the bottom of my list.

[Juan Gonzalez]

Where you cant find chica frendly casas in Habana.

[El Cubanito]

I have stayed in Casas where the owners will get you the Chicas. Yes, the chicas and the casa owners do have an arragement and yes, El Grande you are right most of the deals are around 50%.

But I am with El Grande. For me, 50% of the fun is getting these chicas to go to bed with you and in the end when you become their friends them not charging straight up for a sesion. That is the fun for me. Getting pussy from a girl you met a couple of days of go and not paying for the service. What a feeling!!!!

Two years ago while going to Santa Maria Beach for the day. I came across these 2 high Schoolers who had skip classes and were looking for a Yuma (Tourist) to give them a ride to the beach. As soon as we started flirting with one another. I notice that one them wanted me, but when I ask her age she said she was 17. The hard dick got soft real quick. I know that if you are a Cuban Citizen you can have sex with somebody as young as 17, but I do not live in CUba no more so I adhere to the International law of 18. They were both stunners (the 17 year old looked like Roselyn Sanchez from Rush Hour 2 and the 18 year old looked like Jaime King from Sin City) and as you might have quess the 17 year old was certfiable 10 in any anybody books, but the age thing kept fucking me up. They both lived in San Miguel del Padron. Anyway the 17 year was ready for action. The 18 did not want to anything, but I drove them to the Santa Maria Beach. We went to one of the many places you can hide in this beach and they change into their swimsuits. We spent the whole afternoon talking, drinking, eating, laughing and just having a good old time at the beach. 6 PM roll around and I took them home. I left them just at the entrace to San Miguel since they said that they did not want to get in trouble with their boyfriends and parents. We exchange phone numbers. I got back to my casa took a shower, when I got out my shower the casa owner told me that a Yunexy was on the phone for me. At first I did not remember who it was and then I noticed that it was the 18 year old I had met. Well, she ask me if we coud hook up for dinner and a little company, but she warm me that she had to be acbk at home by 12:00 midnight at the latest. I said no problem. Got into my rental car drove over where I had drop her off and we drove abck to Santa Maria. We had dinner at this place by the beach and after dinner we went to a place that she said she knew we could get a room if I pay the owners 15 cuc. I did not mind paying extra for this room since this girl looked like a exact duplicate of Jaime King. Guys no lie she looked just like Jaime King in the movie Sin City (Goldie). Well she took care of me and we became good friends. I was with her up to the last day I was in CUba 2 years ago and we have kept in touch via emails. If my job can live without me, the first gilr i will do will be Goldie (Yunexy). The moral of the story guys it was not easy, but I got my fish to byte and had a great couple of days with her. The fun si in the hunt guys.

El Cubanito

PS I added a pic of Jaime King for those that do not watch movies.

[El Grande]

Mongers-
(...) Your best bet for Havana mongering in my opinion is to have the owner of whatever casa you are staying in do most of your recruiting for you.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

He probably made them pay for the yuma he had to rent. lol
For me 50 % of the fun is the 'hunting-part'. I'm fluent in Spanish and I'd never want to miss that part.

[Corpo]

Glad to hear that it is better. I've been to China so many times and need a litttle latin flavor now. About 10 years ago it was an incredible destination, the girls in the clubs were beautiful and never wanted anything more than just some drinks, food and a nice place to stay. Really looking forward to going again, just can't decide on the area.

[Rock Harders]

Mongers-
At no point during my trip to Havana did I even attempt to track down "pros" because it was completely unnecessary given the situation I was in. In Havana, almost any (slight exaggeration) unmarried women would be open to fucking a foreigner for the right price. There were two that I had the owner of the casa make offers to that both said no because they had live-in boyfriends/maridos but said they would have done it otherwise. The owner of the casa discouraged me from going out to bars and finding hardcore pros and he made it completely unnecessary. Your best bet for Havana mongering in my opinion is to have the owner of whatever casa you are staying in do most of your recruiting for you.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

[BeersTerry]

Late 2004 and 2005 was the worst. It has gotten a lbetter in 2007

[El Cubanito]

Glad to read that you has a great time.