Havana

[Fido Dido]

I think Jonas and Marcopolo are both right. Cubanas are very nice. Like Jonas says: it is not only the sex but also the other things. Real GFE. But as Marcopolo says: finaly it is all about money and also: "Cuba is Cuba". Not always an easy country. There are always surprises. Sometimes good ones, sometimes bad ones.
About the prices payed. I think Jonas did pay too much. OK, no big deal. But lets not spoil the market. We don't want to pay US/Scandinavian prices in a few years. And beside that: more money doesn't always mean more fun. In Cuba I have scored great, eager girls for $10. But I must admit I also "scored" absolutely worthless girls for 60 CUC. Or better said: they scored me. Shame, shame, shame !!!

By the way: Marcopolo do read your mail.

[El Grande]

Jonas,

I do understand you, but try to barter the girls down. You'll be surprised. They'll stay with you for much less. For 100 $ u can have a whole handful of girls serving you 24 hours. Sure they ask for 100 $, because i bet your driver tells them you'll pay that. The more you pay the better he gets paid from them. But anyways, its your money & I dont think you distroy any market, because it's a once in a lifetime thing if a chica finds a tourist who's willing to pay her that much. Have fun!

[Marcopolo767]

Hi Jonas, you don't know Cuba and Cubans. Sure you have had experinces all around the world but Cuba is diferent. Cuba is Cuba. It was the first trip for you in Cuba and you think tu know some things about Cuba and Cubans. I'm sure that in the next trip you can find all you had found in the last time. But even I'm sure you're going to think diferent. You can be many times in Cuba and when you think to know all about Cuba and Cubans, it can happen something or you can to meet someone taht you have to say: "I don't have understood anything about this country" Dear Jonas: Cuba is Cuba and the Cuban girls are the best. The best in any sense. The best in love. The best in deception too. All you have found is the same that we all have found and we find. Friendship, solidarity, social acquaintances of quality, promisis of eternal love for you, always and only for you. Yes, it is. But all that turn around at your money, at your "dinero". When a "chica" find a "turista" is good for her and for is family and friends because, in theese days, they all are going to have "comida" If for us is normal have breakfast, lunch and dinner, seven days a week, no so is for Cubans and, don't forget, the eternal love promised to me, is the same promised to you and it will be promis to a next tourist, perhaps arrived with te same aircraft you take to go home.

I'll be in Ciudad Habana for the 8th time from 03/26 to 04/09. If someone of you will be there, please contact me by mail.

Marco Polo

[Jonas]

I don’t think they be rich, hope some of them do some good business on our trip. In my world I think this price is ok, why because in Sweden you have to pay 300-350 $/h.

I never try it in Sweden, but paid that money in USA, Japan, Taiwan mm many time. If you go to FF house in Germany you pay 50 € for 15-30 min go to Las Vegas and it takes 10 second from you filled the condom to the girl is out of the door (for 200-300 $). And I like to have people around me that serve and like me and not think am an as hole. If this means it destroy your " market " I am sorry for it. I go her to have a good time that means a lot of sex, but between the sex its very nice to have the possibility to talk and associate, with the people round you including the girls. The girl we meet in Havana last time was very educated and fun to be with (24h). I been with girls in Thailand and The Philippines that serve incredible sex, but its impossible to talk and have fun outside the bed. I think that some of the contribution in the forum defame the girls, this is the only way for them to make some extra many in this double economy. For as you sad the girls earn 10-20$ month and 1 litre of petrol is 1. 2$ they most earn money beside the system, al in Cuba must. As you probably understand I can afford that my vacation cost me for instance 2800$ instead for 2300$, for that I gat a lot of contacts in Havana and got better service under the time I been there. If I when I got there next time call one of the girls from my last trip, and offer her 40$ instead for 60-70 $ I’m sure she go with me, but do I got the same service? I think even you in your work, work better and give more if you got a better salary precisely like this girls. And if it cost me 3-4 beers moor on each girl on my most important time . My vacation its ok for me. I try to hold on my many, but I’m not spending my time on my vacation running round to get the cheapest of everything. I think that most of the time you got what you pay for.

[Marcopolo767]

Cubans are going tu be rich if you and your friends return to "isla grande".

Good businnes for the guide. For a Cuban the salary for a month of work is no more than 6 or 7 $, so you can understand because your guide was always present as you said.

About the "casa particular" I hope you paid 60 $ for you all. In Ciudad Habana (playa and miramar) you can find rooms for 30 $ including breakfast. In the Habana suburbs and other tawns you can find rooms for 15 $ (max. 20 $) always including "desajuno".

I regret to uinform you that 80 or 100 $ for a "chica" is a crazy thing. In Ciudad Habana, girls ask this prices but you don't have to accept. You can agree with them no more than 30 $ (max. 40 $).

Marco Polo

[Cubiche]

I am glad that you had a good time. The prices you paid for the rooms and girls were at a premium. However, things have changed over the past few years and it is not as esay for new visitors. The price paid for the car and guide was very good but rest assure that he received a commision from all, including the restaurants and the chicas he found and the casa owners, if he arranged it. It's the Cuba way. Hopefully you kept contact numbers and for the next trip, you should be able to do a great deal better.

[El Cubanito]

Jonas,

It sound like you enjoy yourself. I myself will be going in May. I was thinking on going in Late April or early May, but because of work I have to push it back. Into Mid May may or late May. Let see if we can hook up.

EL Cubanito

[Jonas]

Havana Cuba . Trawel report 10 days week5-6. 2006.

We 3 friends from Sweden trawling for the first time to Cuba/Havana ,No Spanish .

But I think we did the right thing.

We rent one car + Guide ( Guide=30 $/day)for the hole time.

And of curse rented one independent house for 3 persons in Miramar.

This guy help us with everything from morning to morning, book Restaurants took us to clubs and help us in the back way “no queue”, drive us around ca 2000 km.

He always kept his eyes on us where ever we was, we feel wery safe.

And best of al when we meet girls he guarantee us for them, we had never get close to this 8-10 p/girls without him, if the girls need to get home for a reason he drive them and they was back in 30 min.

We did never had problem with the polis probably because the our friend avoid them
without we notes it.

This was an girlfriend experience (24 h) for us, we got 10 different girls in house this
10 days .

Okay we me by let it cost little bit moor then it needed to, for us it was worth every €.

Price house 60 $/day/room, girls 80-100$ first day 60-80$ extra day.

Sorry for my spelling.

2 of us going back in May.

[Truth Seeker]

HAVANA, Cuba – www.cubanet.org) – Workers are rushing to finish a new correctional facility for women being built in Calderón, part of Alquízar municipality in Havana province, south of the city. Authorities have announced that the prison, with capacity for thousands of inmates, will be ready for use in three months.
The three existing women's prisons around Havana are all overcrowded since the raids carried out in the past months. Many of the inmates are serving terms of up to four years for “dangerousness,” a catch-all term that basically denotes having the potential for criminality.

In the case of women, it means prostitution or the suspicion thereof. Dangerousness is invoked whenever Cuban women are seen talking to foreigners, for instance, or when they are in the vicinity of tourist facilities or places frequented by tourists.

[Ivon]

I just got back Friday night and it was the worst that I've ever seen it. Mongering is still possible, but it is now so bad that it is time to consider other destinations right now.

Police are everywhere, most clubs are closed and the ones that are still open aren't much to write home about. I went out Sat. night to the Casa de la Música in Centro because it was the only Sat. night that I was going to be in Cuba. I got there figuring that if it wasn't good on Sat. night, it wasn't going to get better. $15 CUC cover, the place was only 70% full, aprox. 20-30 chicas, none were great. not exactly Johnny's circa 2001.

Chicas were around Parque Central, less jineteros than usual, but more police there and around the Malecón in Centro as well. Dead as a doornail around the Cohiba. Didn't try to go to Macumba, it was still open from what I was told, but it was an expensive waste of time on my last visit. Harder to pick up "normal" chicks on the street, because it seemed that the was a greater fear of the police this time.

I will try to post a longer, more detailed post later on.

[Cosmo69]

gentleman,
will arrive in Habana 24th and ready for the action. As a repeating visitor I believe that if you have a private casa and a car !! you are all set for the action. Just cruise around, be aware of your surroundings and things w i l l
happen. PM me for a few cold ones !
Cheers
Cosmo

[Tennis]

Guys, while chica hunting in Cuba is beyond it's glory days, there's still action to be had. If you are a little adventurous, and speak some Spanish, you just need to go into the neighborhoods and find a "trusting" person who will soon connect you to the inside world of Cuban life.

Let me give you an example. One day I was walking around Havana Viejo, and I looked inside of an house. There was a young guy, a mother, and about 5 young girls. I said "buenas tardes" and they starting talking to me. I asked what they were eating, and they said, some rice and beans. I asked the mother if she'd prepare me some food for $, and soon enough, I was eating with them for $2.

Well, it didn't take long for each of us to talk about the real reason I was there, and 30 minutes later I was leaving with a hot 22 year old, back to my apartment. Long story short, I ended up f***ing 2 other girls from that house; then, when word got out in the neighborhood, I literally had chicas knocking at my door. In fact, I was there during Hurricane Dennis last July, and there wasn't much to do for 48-72 hours, so, it was a f***fest to say the least.

Anyway, I agree, for most, Cuba might be too difficult to bother with, especially with the action I've experienced in Colombia (unbelievable beauties! ) and Brazil (the beach life, and diversity of chicas that seem to devour sex). However, if you like some of the raw grit of a country, and want to throw yourself into life in Cuba, just have some smarts and patience, and the rewards can be great.

[EZ Pilot]

Hi Gringo,

My last visit was in August 05, and it was terrible. High police enforcement plus poor choice. Girls kinda avoid tourists in general now. When did you last visit Havana? Things have changed since then!

I was in Havana in October 2005, my casa was at the Malecon and Prado, spent two weeks there. Yeah, you might have to work things a little more discreetly and there are police everywhere, but there is lots of action to be had. Walking the Malecon at night bore much fruit. I had something pretty much every day. Going back again next week for three weeks, I'll let you guys know what transpires.

[EZ Pilot]

Leaving for Havana in a few days, haven't posted here since last summer, will do some catching up on my reading. Will do a mini trip report when I get back.

[Ivon]

This doesn't sound good, but I've already bought the ticket and will have to take my chances. The police have been tight for a couple of years now and no matter what they do, there will always be chicas; the only difference is that you have to be more discreet.

Which clubs are still open besides Casa de la Música? I'll post a report when I get back and if it is as bad as Rubmeister100 says than I think it WILL be my last trip down for the foreseeable future. I'm pretty sure most people here don't go for the food.

You never really know until you get there because the scene is always changing, but it seems to me that they are slowly choking it off by little by little. The Havana Club and Johnny's must have been cash cows for them back in the day, but it looks like they are willing to forego the cash to maintain tighter social control as more and more old standbys are being kept closed right into high tourist season.

I still (hope) to have a few contacts down there and my spanish is good and hopefully it will work out, but if doesn't, I would recommend skipping Cuba and going somewhere else although I love the place.