Santiago

[Mangito]

Santiago is still permitting cuban girls to stay in a tourists room. All the houses are registering the girls and only one girl will be allowed. It is becoming much harder to find girls prepared to stay with you as girls who are registered in houses are being rounded up and jailed. That being said, Santiago seems to be the best place in Cuba at the present time.

[One Great Man]

apostropheman:

On www.priceline.com, you offer a price and dates. They choose the airline and departure/return times (you have the option of red-eye flights).

Their "international" minimum bid for RT is $400.

I don't know whether they serve Canada, but I don't know why not. You can get more details on their site.

Hope this helps!

[ApostropheMan]

I am planning a trip in April or May 2003 and need to find the best pricing for airfare. Any suggestions?

thanks

[Big_Rob]

Originally posted by pachangero
Quick ? for those with Santiago experience,

how does one get there from Havana?

plane, bus, rental car, taxi?

thanks for the 411!

Fly with Cubana about three flights eachway per day, see http://www.nashtravel.com/domestic.html

The planes are old Antonov soviet jobs but they seem to fly ok.

Any other transport takes about 12 hours or more.

[Pachangero]

Quick ? for those with Santiago experience,

how does one get there from Havana?

plane, bus, rental car, taxi?

thanks for the 411!

[Big_Rob]

Originally posted by this1greatman
Hi Big-Rob:

Would you post the name (and hopefully the address) of the $40 casa. It sounds great.

The casa is run by Rosa Raionet and is at Claris #209

[mungo38]

Yep Santiago is a paradise for tourists.

I stayed at one of the hotels around the Las Americas. If you don't want to stay in a Casa it's easy to hire a room in a Casa on a nightly basis. Though having said this I will stay in my own Casa on my next visit.

Some of the girls who are working the streets are okay but most of them are a bit rough and it is better to find company by a different route. It's also very dangerous for them, the police in Santiago are really on the ball.

There are two 24hr Cafes, the Las Americas (The food sucks) and a much better one situated under some trees opposite the main side entrance of the Hotel Melies de Santiago. You can't miss the Hotel Melies it's the big modern brightly painted building. Sticks out like a sore thumb.

If you sit alone in one of these cafes for any length of time you'll be chatted up or establish eye contact with a girl.

The Discos and Nightclubs are also good and the male guides and drivers who work the streets can also be very useful though some of them are a complete waste of time.

I connected with one of the better guides who for a slim fee $5 introduced me to two beautiful young women. One of them hated selling sexual services but the other one was really good at it.

A woman who works part time does not like to think of herself as a prostitute and it's important to respect this distinction. Maybe that's one reason why they don't ask for money and they let you decide how much to give them. I gave $20 and that seemed to be okay. On the whole I found that they worked much harder at turning me on and making me happy than any western pro that you are likely to come across.

The guides and the women will try to cling on to you and this can be quite nice because they will go out of their way for you and it can be enjoyable to see just one or two girls for the whole duration of the holiday. Much more of a girlfriend /boyfriend experience. I had two regulars and two one night stands.

I prefer Santiago, the city is cleaner and more tidy and well run than Havana which to my mind is a dusty, polluted, dilapidated dump and most of the girls on the game are just hardened pros.

The music in Santiago is also excellent and there are regular street parties down the Place de Revolution (I think) on a Saturday night when tens of thousands of the local population come out on to the streets to enjoy themselves.

Watch out for the trick of encouraging you take a shower while she rifles through your wallet. I caught one girl doing it to and I just took my wallet back and laughed at her.

There is one point that is worth remembering, if a local person goes out of their way to polite and friendly towards you then 99 times out of 100 they are after your money. The men can't sell sex but they will chat to you for hours before they ask you for some dollars and believe me the Cubans are a charming, witty, charismatic bunch of people.

[One Great Man]

Hi Big-Rob:

Would you post the name (and hopefully the address) of the $40 casa. It sounds great.

[Big_Rob]

just like to post a report on my trip in nov 2001 to santiago, my second time there. arrived in santiago late with my buddy and booked into a nice casa, two bedrooms each with own bathroom, lounge, kitchen. own entrance $40/night for whole appt. only 5 mins walk from my favorite area parque dolores. so walked down to matamoros bar, a bit quiet, but after a couple of beers noticed a very black, very friendly chica by the door who seemed to be having some trouble getting in, so, sir gallahad like, i invited her to join me. now my spanish is, to say the least, a bit limited but we soon sorted sorted out what i wanted and she came back with me to the casa, sex was ok but nothing special. having not negtiated a price beforehand she wanted to go through the tedious "i'm not a jinetera but i haven't got any food so you must pay me" routine, since it was my first night and i was knackered i couldn't be bothered so i just gave her 20 dollars and she pissed off. next day down to cafe dolores having my usual breakfast (cheese and ham sandwich and a can of cristal) and hitting me running is a girl i spent a lot of time with last trip. she did the full "oh my darling i've missed you" bit and she even looked a bit better than i remembered her, not one to look a gift horse in the crotch (sorry, mouth), away we went back to the casa. she was ok, bj + vaginal, but i had spent almost all my last trip with her and was looking for more excitement so said i'd see her later.

that evening was in matamoros bar again and saw this realy fit mulato (j) who was obviously up for it, had a few drinks and had a laugh after being given the line "i run a dance school in santiago" must be a new name for shagging i had not heard before. anyway went on to the dos abuelos and she sure could dance (how is it these girls can move their asses so quick?).

by about midnight i was getting a bit desperate for this girl, her body was absolutely gorgeous and she was wanting it. so back to the casa, now the fun began we started fooling around and at one point in the proceedings she bit me, i don't go for the all out s&m bit but this was just at the right time and just hard enough and i loved it. i was in lust!!. we did it forwards, backwards upside down and inside out (well nearly) brilliant blow job, cum in her mouth and she stayed the night. morning came with her on top of me riding me and a realization that the excesses of the night before had bruised my lilly white body all over with bites. but she was good!!!!

no mention of money and i realized she (j) was up for the long haul.

i paid for food for her for the week, bought her 2 dresses and a pair of shoes, and she fucked me about 20 times, seemed like i got the best deal.

the day got more interesting when we were having a beer in the casa grande and along came my friend from the last trip. we had a fun time trying to make polite conversation a trois but my new friend was giving me the evil eye so i had to take the first girl aside and tell her that though i swore undying love to her yesterday i didn't want to see her again. (what a bastard).

the first few days and nights were wonderful and when she knew i liked the pain she started sticking her finger up my ass at just the right moment and digging her nail in. wonderfull.
one day we were sitting having another beer in the taerrace bar at the casa grande and while talking to my friend i noticed a jinetera sitting on a bench in the park taking a good look at me. she was white not good looking but not bad so i thought nothing ventured and on the pretext of a [CodeWord134] wandered out to the steps and arranged a meet with her later. the good thing about the main relationship was that at various times she had to work so i used this to my advantage to try this jinetera, she demanded a pair of shoes for payment but at 15 dollars it seemed fair enough, she was ok but i think the gf experience had spoiled me a bit and she just felt like a ***** (if you know what i mean). the little cow nicked a perfume sample i'd given j so she knew what had been going on but didn't seem to upset. the week was going well only day three and four different girls...

one night out with my buddy and his gf she brought a friend who was a bit on the sexy side and i couldn't keep my eyes off her. j got a bit upset when the beer loosened me up enough to try paying attention to both of them at once. but this new girl knew her time would come.

thats on the next trip.

[Organicgrowth]

Hi Vampyr,

Nice to read your report on Santiago. It's a place I have not yet visited and after your report I will. I am returning to Cuba in December, so it's now on the agenda for me. How do the prices compare with Havana?

Is is possible for some contact details of your excellent drivers Armondo and Daniel, as you say they were indispensable as they showed you every hot spot imaginable. You might not want to share the information in public, up to you, but please do email me with some information (sedition2001@hotmail.com). Check out my reports on Havana. I promise to share very detailed info with the group when I return from the December visit....

regards, Havanaman

[Vampyr]

I just got back...Santiago es muy bueno..the people are very pleasant and always smile. The chicas are beautiful, I had so many to chose from dark and light skin girls...I went by a model studio (la Maison) and picked up a wicked 8 (maybe 9 to some) and had some real fun back at my hotel..I hung out at Los americanos and there are many girls there just waiting to be chosen, bcuz they cannot get in the club without a male escort(Only in Cuba, I wish USA was like this) drinks cost $1-2 everywhere, there are many pretty girls hanging out at siboney beach alot of 7's a few 8-9's and a 10 when I went on a saturday. There are alot of girls in Santiago..when driving you will see 10 girls to every guys, sometimes even more of a disparity. I didn't stay @ a casa particular bcuz it was my first visit, but next time I will...too much of a hassle to get girls to stay the night. I would not of had as much fun if it wasn't for my two drivers Armondo and Daniel, they were indispensable they showed me every hot spot imaginable. Chow.

[Vampyr]

thanks alot for the info Zoso, pertaining to the pricing, don't worry I won't overpay. Why should I ruin it for everyone else? $10-$15 seems fair for a few hours, compared to the amount they make per month.

[Zoso]

I'm from Canada, but from what I know you need your passport. They will stamp your tourist card which you will need when you leave. I also make a photocopy of my passport and leave the original where I am staying (casas). Girls are everywhere in Santiago.
My favourite areas are around Dolores park and around the Hotel Las Americas. The 24 hour outdoor cafe at the Las Americas usually has girls. It's not so much about how much they are asking, as how much you want to give them. You need to realize the average person makes between 10 - 15/month. I usually give a girl about $15 for an hour or two. Some more, some less. One girl offered to come to my place for 10, so that's what I gave her, another I gave 20 to the first time so I kept giving her 20 when I saw her. Another never asked me for money, but brought up things like "there's a pair of shoes I'd like to get" or "I don't have money for a taxi". I think I gave her too much money, but she was a real sweetheart and I saw her a few times.
If I met a girl there and she brought up money before we went to my place, I'd be stunned. That's just not the way they are there (in my experience).
I think if you give them too much it just spoils the place. My impression is they are most semi-pros hoping to make a few dollars.

Zoso

[Vampyr]

I'm visiting Santiago soon, I was wondering since I'm an american citizen, how should I go about entry into the country should I carry my passport their? will they stamp my passport in a way that is evident to U.S. customs or do they have some other method that will not show? also where should I head when I go? how much are the chicas asking? I will post my trip when I get Back.

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