General Info

[Talosian]

Havanaman:

Many thanks for the info. This really sounds too good to be true however stranger things have happened.

And of course, anything you may do to pave the way will be appreciated 10-fold. And actually, I am a nice guy I am principled, stand up for what I believe and respect the right of others to disagree with me.


As it happens, I found a place where I will probably be staying which the landlady says is a few minutes from the Hotel Inglatera. She emails me in very decent English so I asked her if should could check and confirm if the lady is still there and any other information. I explained my situation and my love of piano music.

Thanks.

David

[Organicgrowth]

Talosian,

She speaks good English. Slow, as I remember. However when I communicate with any non-English speaker I concentrate on every word they say and often am able to predict not only the word that they are struggling on but also then the general topic of conversation. Unfortunately for me this clouds my ability to be able to accurately tell you how good someone is at English. Top line, she speaks enough for you have a conversation.

In reply to your question: I live in Europe.

It would seem that we will miss each other if you are travelling to Havana in December; I'm going to be in BA in December.

One thing I can do for you though, is to set the scene --if you like? Get her name, tell her I told a friend of mine about her music, he appreciates piano music, he is a nice man, get her email (if she has one / help her set one up). You know the sort of thing. In a previous report did I think I mentioned about using MSN’s advanced search facility (people & chat) to locate e-pals by age / location. Have you seen it / given it a go? It works! I have made numerous contact using it.

Regards, Havanaman

[Talosian]

Havanaman: Does the piano player speak (any) English?

Thanks.

Spock.

[Talosian]

In America there is a presumption of innocence of a person of any crime until the contrary is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

In the law which says Americans can go to Cuba but not spend money and if they do, they have committed a crime, there is a presumption that if they go, money was spent there. True, the presumption is rebuttable but still, it shifts the burdon to the "accused."

This seems to be a presumption of guilt which is contrary to our Constitution.. Anyone every think there is a legal challenge here?

Spock

[Talosian]

Havanaman:

Not to worry about me giving out any address or any other information.

I know this can be a scam but the cost is about the price of a couple of drinks (which I don't do) so no loss if it doesn't happen. But I will not put any real $$ out front and If I do try to get scammed, I will notify the site operator who will do nothing. Again, a gamble.

Where are you located?

You hit more than a responsive cord with the mention of a lady piano player. My first musical love is piano (especially classical) and put that together with a lady in the age range you mention and that could be a recipe for enjoyment for us both. I'm thinking she doesn't speak English? I will absolutely make this a priority.

I'm paranoid of my Government but I WON'T let it stop me when I feel I am morally (and actually legally) in the right. I won't throw it to the wind but will use common sense in what I do.

Your input is appreciated. I'm still looking at about 7 weeks before I leave and have a lot of things I'm taking simply because to some slight degree, I feel responsible for the plight of the Cuban people. It is my Government which cas caused their dire situation for no good reason. The reason ceased in 1963 when the Russian missles were removed, not it's just "we" don't like Castro as "we" didn't like Saddam. Enough Rhetoric.

Thanks.

Spock/David

[Chekist]

the washington post sunday travel section for october 19, 2003, p. p1 had a front page blurb on prostitution in cuba. it was in reference to bush's recent speech on the sex trade in cuba. the author of the piece said that he (or she) had not seen any evidence of an open sex trade in cuba.

any comments?

[Organicgrowth]

Talosian,

Please refer to my post in the Havana section (10-08-03 10:18) about letters. If you get this letter through it will be a small miracle. Sorry old chap, but that’s what my own experience has been, but then lady luck has never been kind to me! Beware of scams. This is the only comment I can give you about this letter idea. Be vigilant and don’t give your home address.

Can I suggest that you go to the Inglaterra on a Wednesday or Sunday evening and have a bite to eat or a drink in their main bar / dining hall. On these two days, there is a very beautiful, very elegant lady who plays the background piano music. She is between 35 – 40 years old, has a daughter 7 years old. She is single. I was taken by her musical ability and her general elegance, rather than sex appeal: which for me at that time was non-existent. I got chatting to her and found her to be intelligent, witty and a good general companion. I'm guessing now, and if I was forced to play cupid, I would say “she is right up your street” as the English would say. If you do approach her, you can say that you have a mutual friend. She will remember me making paper-animals for her daughter (and one for her using a $5 bill ~ tip). Much to my shame I forget her name. I will meet her again in November, just to say hello: nothing more...

Brother, forget the paranoia, excessive investigation and leave some caution to the wind. You WILL enjoy it, and you WILL meet some really nice people. After all your posts, if we hook up: I will go out of my way to ensure you get a good compañera, that’s a promise!

Regards, Havanaman

[El Cubanito]

Hey Talosian,

How is your planning going? I know of the woman you are talking about. You found this women in the http://www.havanacubaconnection.com website? If you did most of the women here are looking to put out and some of them are very good and some are not.

Talosian you can send me the letter you want to send via the WSG Forum's Private messaging system. I will send the letter via escriba.com. To send the leter it will cost me only $1.00 and $ 1.00 will not make me or break me. Just trying to help a folower Monger. Listen if you are really interested in a good looking 35+ age chica, let me know when you send me the email and I will send you a couple of photos of chicas which I think you will like.

El Cubanito

[Talosian]

Paranoid Question:

I want to send a letter to Cuba. It's to a lady whose address I bought and who says she can make "introductions" to chicas (remeber, I'm lookinf for 35+). It contains no $$, negotiable instrument and nothing prohibited or of any monitary value It's a personal letter of one page.

Has anyone here had any experience with sending a letter to Cuba and it arrived appearing it was opened first? I'm talking a simple letter, not a box, package, thick letter, card, etc. A simple #10 legal sized envelope.

And is there anyone here who thinks my paranoia is NOT justified? Remember, Homeland Security Act (which I support) allows the Government to act like a Proctologist and look up each of our arses without permission. We can only complain after the fact.

Spock (being very logical).

[AlLostInSpace13]

Hey Tolosian, a good place to go to enjoy Cubans singing the blues is the upstairs Dos Gardenia bar in Miramar. About $4 cab ride from downtown Havana and $5 to get in. Older crowd but good ambience. Soft music. My favorite place to go. I think they're open every night from 11-1.

[Talosian]

EL Cubanito.

Please send me a Private Message via the forum so I can communicate directly since I don't want to clutter the forum with personal notes.

Thanks.

David

[El Cubanito]

Talosian,

Here is the email address of the English guide that can help you in Havana. The email address is: cesaron@web.correosdecuba.cu. He speaks English and has access to excellent cars, plus he knows where all of the chicas are in Havana. Even a 30+ chica like the one you are looking for.

GenCuster, please email Cesar in havana and he will be able to help you out.

Talosian, if you hooked up with 30+ chica, you will be able to take her anywhere you want. Cesar will help you and the chica in case there is nay trouble with local police with your chica. I doubt they will bother you since Cesar knows all of the local police in Vedado Havana.

Talosian, I also want to add that the Chicas between Santo Spiritus and Camaguey are more pure and wholesome then some of the chicas in Havana. I want to add Talosian, from what you are saying that you are looking for: 30+ chicas. I think is best if you can get to these providence. If you want more info as to where to stay and where to go let me know. How long are you staying for?

EL Cubanito

[Talosian]

El Cubanito. Yes, I would like a contact for an English speaking driver. I'm told US$25 per day plus fuel only (and food/drink) is a fair price for a full-day of driving.

Yes, my first trip and I know the American and other cultures and will try to just go with the flow and as you say, leave inhibitions (most) at the airport.

We won't be there the same time sorry to say.

Due to my age (64) I'm not looking for a 20-25 year old, my preference is to the 35+ and while I'm not looking for marriage, if I end up with a GFE, I am not going to be adverse to coming back and trying to make her life a little better.

I'm working on a few words in Spanish and maybe even some "flash cards" with appropriate sentences on them.

I think one other "disadvantage" I will have is that I'm not into dancing, smoking, drinking or very loud music (not a religious thing, just me). So I won't be hanging out in the bars much though my travel friend (33 years old) will be doing enough of that for both of us.

Finally, once I get organized and have the chica, it is going to be a very personal problem for me to not be able to have a close association with the chica outside of the Casa. (on the streets). No sightseeing or museums or such. Bummer.

Thanks.

Spock

[Talosian]

Havanaman and others:

You're probably right about some "overplanning" on my part however, remember this is my first (of possibly many) trip to Cuba and the first where I have affirmatively planned to seek intimate company. I'm sure in every situation, be it with a SW, Escort or Chica, there is an etiquette and I want to get the saged advice of those who have gone before me.

And I will attempt to leave my inhibitions at the airport remembering though I have had over six decades to entrench them. But I do believe, "When in Rome - - -"

There is one thing I am trying now which I will report on here before I leave, and that is I gambled $9 for an address of a woman in Cuba whose ad on another Board essentially said "I know lots of Chicas so let me help you." If I get the address, I'll write and get her info, and, and, and, etc. I figure it's worth the $9 gamble and if it works out, it might be a very good investment, especially since I'm looking for a Chica in the more mature age range (35 - 40+).

I'm also looking for direction as to any cultural events where I could (try to) take a Chica such as ballet, orchestra, etc. Any input here is appreciated.

Thanks.

Spock
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David

[El Cubanito]

Talosian,

Is this your first trip to Cuba? It sounds like it is then I can tell you a couple things from having gone to Cuba 2 a year for the last 5 years.

Chicas are everywhere and if you do strike a conversation with them they will with you. You might have a little problem since your are 'Spanish Challenge'. If you want a 'Tour Guide' to help you with the action down there, I can recomend one who speaks English and can help you with the Chicas.

Talosian, Havanaman is correct leave your Leave your inhibitions at the airport. Just have fun. Cuba is nothing like the United State or Canada (I do not know where you reside) as far as Chick action goes.

When are you going and how long are you going to be there?

I personally will be ariving November 3 and will return on November 26. I can not wait to start the fun. If you are American like myself you are going to be suprise as to the numbers of Americans in Havana Cuba.

Let me know if you have further questions.

El Cubanito