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  1. #3674
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    What you're talking about is what I like to call the monger balance. To not over pay but to not out right fuck her over as well.....
    That's it right there period.

  2. #3673

    The Monger Balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam14  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, thats my story. Theres no one size fits all. Every female in a certain geographic location isn't a puta, just like every cat on ISG isn't simply looking for a hole to finish inJust most.. Haha. Use our best judgment and try not to insult anyone, fuck ourselves, or fuck anyone else over I suppose. What goes around comes around.
    What you're talking about is what I like to call the monger balance. To not over pay but to not out right fuck her over as well. Because as you just said karma can be a * Alot of the OG mongers on this board that I've studied over the years have that balance. Its also the reason why they can deal with multiple females from all different cultures and have very few if any problems with the ladies.

    Alot of times you'll be in a grey area meaning there's no right or wrong answer as the guys you spoke about technically wasnt in the wrong when guys in the Philippines met these young hunnies off the internet and since they never spoke of money, they just had sex with them and sent them on there way knowing full well the girl had barely a dollar to their name as they feel theyre in the clear. But there karma is suspect at best because they know full well that they literally came to a 3rd world country basically to fuck over these poor young girls as their intentions are first and foremost are how can I get over. In the end its all about how you treat that person regardless if theyre an outright hoe to a regular female. And how you treat that person especially when you have the money there by the power says ALOT about you.

    Theres 8 billion ways to help her out and not make her feel like a hoe. Even though we all know that a big reason you're helping her out is because you just had a hot young 23 year old humming on your balls ready to take the money shot to the face as if the guys from legalporno was directing the scene. So yeah I know you're not a hoe but here's something for your kids. Go buy that dress I want to see you in. Ooh here's some extra gas money to get back home.

    The OG mongers that I met up with do that all the time. They just don't say much about it because they don't won't folks to think theyre a simp either. But leave no doubt in mind if a female try to take advantage of them and cross there good nature by begging for more money and telling all these lies to try and come up, they will get dissmissed. As the ladies will soon realize to not take their kindness for weakness.

  3. #3672

    One Size Don't Fit All

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    . You could've paid what she ask for and the pussy would've still been garbage. Sounds like you dodge a bullet.
    And that letche Papi bullshit too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam14  [View Original Post]
    ... Theres different thoughts on this but I always try to give something anyway because I know theyre probably broke and could use it
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why should he make the chick feel like a hooker when she had already made it clear that she was not? Seems like many people are not passing out money simply because a chick may need it, but rather to keep themselves from feeling bad.

    Of course everybody on the planet needs money, but that is no excuse to make a hooker out of someone. <Snip> I am not a hooker. Yes you are; take this money.
    I see this point, that's why I said there's different thoughts on this. Just because a chica is playing Tinder, which is mostly hookers, in Boca Chica, which is mostly hookers, don't mean she's an inspiring hooker and you should see to it that it happens. It could be disrespectful to her to sell her pussy for a lousy $35 to the first foreigner she met.

    I can only base my comments on my experience, which is very limited in Latin America. I wasn't there, maybe Stradivary is a good judge of character and did the right thing. But either way I'm glad he wrote about it. Maybe he at least called her and said Hello,. Haha.

    I had more than one come to my place in Sosua when I said "I don't want problems, am I going to owe a bunch of money?" And they said "no, that would be a prostitute". Their profile said looking for relationship. But in my case it was easy enough to tell, we both knew what she was coming for. They just weren't hard core. I'm sure they actually were looking for a relationship; they just know finding their perfect match in Sosua is as much of a longshot as me finding mine. They gladly accepted their small gift and we can all pretend.

    On the other hand, in Rwanda I'd been chatting with a nice gal and we met at a coffee shop. She was way bigger than I thought, and it wasn't going to happen. But we decided to give it a try anyway just for fun. So we went to my place for a while, and in the end I only paid for her transportation. Later I mentioned it and she indicated she was bummed. She was hoping I was going to kick down probably 20 or 30 dollars because apparently she spent what was a lot of money to her on her hair. And I'm sure there was a lot of anticipation. She said you saw my most private part (her butthole) and I think she felt humiliated. So she's not a hoe but yeah, in the end I felt bad. I offered but she said forget it.

    Another example: I was talking to an American where I sit at El Conde. This guy was boasting about how he never gives them anything unless they ask upfront. This stud was mostly talking about downtown street meat. I actually saw him at work so I know what he goes after. He also told me about problems he's had with them raising hell in his hotel. I'm just thinking what an idiot.

    Worse than that, and really to my point. There's these guys that come to the Philippines. (Used to anyway). They pull these sweet little things off Cupid then fuckin drive them through the mill. Then turn them out with nothing. She's probably so broke she don't even have enough to eat, or 3 dollars to her name. She's just hoping the guy has a heart because Filipinas are generally too shy to ask. And the guy thinks he's a big shot because it's so easy to line 'em up and knock 'em back. When I got there in 2012 you could do an advanced search with super tight filters (18-24, no babies) and come up with 1000+ matches, (mostly hot) with 90% response rate. And their filter said 18 to 99 years old. By the time I left, you could raise the age and allow for children, and the results were down to 400 (mostly not so hot) with 50% response rate. And their filters said 26 to 47 years old. Many Filipinas said they don't trust foreigners anymore and don't talk to them. And you didn't get all the smiles and giggles like before.

    Anyway, thats my story. Theres no one size fits all. Every female in a certain geographic location isn't a puta, just like every cat on ISG isn't simply looking for a hole to finish in—Just most.. Haha. Use our best judgment and try not to insult anyone, fuck ourselves, or fuck anyone else over I suppose. What goes around comes around.

  4. #3671
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I met this chick online a while back. . . So anyway I just left her house in Andres.

    I went over there and she was pretty standoffish. I said lets go to the beach. She said I don't go anywhere with it raining like this. I said the rain had already stopped. The she asked if we were going to fuck. I had no intentions of it but since she brought it up I said we can.

    She said how much will you give me. I said how much do you want. She said $150 . . .
    Okay, so I'm a tad confused.

    (1). When I read this, it sounds like this was a "normal / regular" chick (ie. Non-pro), that looked to be hard-up on cash and rent was coming due, so she figured she'd get rent money from you, by charging you US $150 for a quick fuck.

    If this was a "normal / regular" chick, she ain't looking so "normal" and "regular" and has turned out to be a b#itch and a hard-ass pro. Bummer, it happens, no sweat.

    (2). On the other hand, I could read, that if this chick was a pro when you met her online, then why would you go over there and NOT EXPECT to have SEX? Or at the very least expect her to want to earn a payday for her time? Or was this simply a beach date with a pro, gone wrong?

    Just trying fill in the gaps in my mental understanding of events.

    BTW, that fried fish looks pretty good (one of my favs), although I can't say the same for the plantain and salad.

  5. #3670

    Best kept secret

    Well I finally found the best kept secret in getting your Antigen test DR. It's a little place in Andrs and they give you a test in less than 10 minutes. I apologize because I lost the information and location. As soon as I get it back I will post it.

  6. #3669
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I went over there and she was pretty standoffish. I said lets go to the beach. She said I don't go anywhere with it raining like this. I said the rain had already stopped. The she asked if we were going to fuck. I had no intentions of it but since she brought it up I said we can.

    She said how much will you give me. I said how much do you want. She said $150. I started laughing. She said how much will you give me. I said shit 1000. She was like no way. Get out of my house you cheap bastard. So on the way to the door I went up to 1500. She opened the door and I said okay 2000. She closed the door and said stop talking so loud. Keep it on the down low.
    Mr. E You really do remind me of that dude from the original Robocop movie. "I BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR" LOL.

    https://youtu.be/7eITkqR6UKM

    All jokes aside you mustve have known that she was bad news for you once she started out being standoffish for no reason. You could've paid what she ask for and the pussy would've still been garbage. Sounds like you dodge a bullet.

  7. #3668

    Welcome to Santo Domingo and GBP Mr E.

    Thanks to all the posters here in the BC forum for sharing their reports and opinions. About 10 years ago GFE was the standard play with girls making your bed, inviting you for a family meal, and pouting when you ask them to leave. Now transactional hourly fucks are the norm. Before you could see couples walking around holding hands in the sex tourist areas, now it's race to see who can fuck fast and get back to the bar.

    My point is we have to adjust and understand the new game, freebies are rare in a sex tourism zone.

    Anyone loooking for something serious in the DR needs to understand the rules: If you don't live there, or spend major time there, nothing is solely yours. If you don't speak any Spanish, it's most likely business etc.

    Stradivari, seems to be doing well in Boca Chica maybe he is the exception to the norm and girls just can't wait to give him some free pussy.

  8. #3667

    Crazy Encounter

    I guess this report rolls right along with what we are discussing. I met this chick online a while back. She always writes to me in English (using a translator apparently) because half the time I do not know what she is saying. I always have to tell her to write in Spanish. So anyway I just left her house in Andres.

    I went over there and she was pretty standoffish. I said lets go to the beach. She said I don't go anywhere with it raining like this. I said the rain had already stopped. The she asked if we were going to fuck. I had no intentions of it but since she brought it up I said we can.

    She said how much will you give me. I said how much do you want. She said $150. I started laughing. She said how much will you give me. I said shit 1000. She was like no way. Get out of my house you cheap bastard. So on the way to the door I went up to 1500. She opened the door and I said okay 2000. She closed the door and said stop talking so loud. Keep it on the down low.

    We went back the the bedroom and she told me to take my clothes off and she went out of the room. I am from the streets. I don't take my shit off until the chick takes hers off. So I just layed on the bed and waited for her to get back. She came back and took her pants off and said lets go. I said you didn't even take your shirt off.

    I said this appears to not be going the way of GFE and I got up. She said you are too cheap you smart ass gringo. You know too much. As she walked me to the door she explained to me how her place costs 9,000 per month. And I didn't plan to fuck you in it all month, so why should I be giving you a full month's rent for 1 fuck? Besides that, you have not proven yourself.

    These hoes don't believe in getting in the door with a GFE approach. They want to show you bad service right off. After I finish this fish at my new favorite cheap Boca Chica restaurant, I am going to GBP where I can get a real GFE!
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  9. #3666
    Gentlemen,

    I appreciate your comments, as all of them help to understand better. I was not wanting to say, that I didn't post anymore. I have been an constant reader (and posted a little bit) on boards about game. I do not think my game is very well developed, but I think I developed some inner game that helped me, to have free sex with girls I met online or in the street within a couple of hours. Had I posted the story (with more emphasis on the game applied), no one would even have thought about the possibility of paying. People there would have felt, that a (semi-) pro would never ever let anybody fuck her without asking for money. In the Bangkok section of that board, there used to be a thread about hot to fuck pros for free. For western guys with an elaborate game, hunting there is so easy that it is not believed as any kind of challenge, to get free sex with a 10. Rarely this kind of contact ends in being boyfriend / girlfriend, but either in FWB, fuckbuddies or they will never see each other again. So in that board, it is about: how fast you can get a "fuck close" or about other challenges; just like: getting a pro to have free sex (without treating her badly, I. E. Without leaving without payment when payment was agreed upon).

    I don't think that all people in that board are of the highest moral standards. The same is most likely true for the members of this board here. And all other inhabitants of our planet, myself included. But that is not the issue. Both are not morality boards but are dedicated to other questions.

    Reporting about paid sex in the game forum would be regarded very weird and would have initiated immense discussions, about how game is destroyed by paying for sex.

    Interestingly, reporting about unpaid sex in this board has triggered similar reactions. I hadn't expected that.

    In the end, I assume its better to have the stories of paid sex in the paid sex board and the stories about getting "fuck close" in the game forum. Honestly, I really don't assume that this girl ever did something like this before and I doubt whether she will turn her head in the pay sex world now. Many many reasons to believe so and only two to believe otherwise: 1) she is a female living in Boca chicha 2) she agreed to have sds (same day sex).

    Well, rest of the journey has been a bit boring. I was not in the mood to do much. Duarte is not exactly the type of meeting place that attracts me most, the issue with my hotel is a bit disturbing and I was not up to continue at the same speed as the first days and instead worked a bit at the pool, where they have excellent WIFI. I found my cappuccino place and my pasta place and my mojito everywhere, so I am totally fine.

    I had a day trip to Santo Domingo, talked to a few girls in Parque Colon, the Conde and Parque Cervantes (looked like drug people), went to PSG (nothing higher than a 5, 1500 for very quick number in a room with water-soaked slippery floor) and back home. Today I even left out my massage because I didn't feel like it and as I am writing this, my hottie from day3 is lying in the hotel bed and playing on her phone. I invited her over late in the evening for a quick fuck, but she told me, she wanted to stay the night. Hmm. I told her, I was not interested in having her here the night (I'm not into that), she can stay if she wants but I would not pay for an overnight stay. The last time, she had told me, I could give her what I want and so I did. This time, she sent me 5 message why I would talk about money. She just wanted to stay for the night. When she arrived, she got immediately undressed, but instead of answering my attempts to caress her, she took her phone and watched Facetime videos. ("Pourquoi tu es pressé, je suis ici toute la nuit. ") Eh bien, I started to read something on the balcony after an hour she started some action, but obviously, she wanted me to end it quickly. I was not that interested anymore in such kind of mechanic action, but I would not want to pay without having done anything. So, I went through all positions I could think of (most of them were declined by her) and it was an hour of hard work for both of us. I came almost silent and without any violin sound. .

    After having written to you, gentlemen, I will go back to her and see what we will do for the rest of the night. And how much I will slip in her purse tomorrow.

    Most ladies here have treated my penis quite roughly. Seems, that Dominican male anatomy is a bit less sensitive to intensive handjobs than mine, and except my massage girl who is giving nice (but nothing more) blowjobs I am really missing BJ specialists here. But I guess this is just bad luck and I was in the wrong places.

    Enjoy the night, wherever you are!

  10. #3665
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Thats the noise he makes when he comes.
    Evidently you understood well as to why I was curious. LOL!

  11. #3664
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempoecorto  [View Original Post]
    BTW, are you a violin player?
    Thats the noise he makes when he comes.

  12. #3663
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    It seems my messages to get in touch do not go through the clearance.

    I will have lunch at the boat house at around 1 pm again. I'm the guy with a red bracelet on his right wrist.
    Sry, didn't see your msg until now. I just arrived boathouse. Will be here for an hour. Red t-shirt at the bar. 4-5 pm.

  13. #3662

    Hear, hear

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    Don't take it personally. Your honest report provoked an interesting discussion here.

    When you've been on this board for a while, you'll see that you will be taken to task by the regulars for A. Paying too much. Be. Paying too little. See. Treating a prostitute like shit. The. Having a prostitute treat you like shit.
    How true! All the above are the transgressions that every monger should be striving to avoid.

  14. #3661

    Naw Keep Posting

    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    I understand what you are saying but I'm not sure if you are making the right guess I'm this particular situation. Maybe, some here are looking through mongers glasses for too long and have forgotten the rest of the world. One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    This is what the board is about. Exchanging information, seeing things from a different perspective so that you can have and continue to have good times with the ladies in DR. Theres honestly no right or wrong way in how you handle the situation. All the OGs on this board that commented on your situation are just giving their observation on how they wouldve handle it as they've been around the block quite a few times.

    This has honestly been some good solid dialog about how to deal with the different type of ladies (froms pros to regular girls) in DR.

    We're enjoying your adventure so keep posting.

  15. #3660
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    I understand what you are saying but I'm not sure if you are making the right guess I'm this particular situation. Maybe, some here are looking through mongers glasses for too long and have forgotten the rest of the world. One lesson learned for me is: I'll never again report on a situation where I didn't pay money. It's outside the scope of this board. Cheers.
    Don't take it personally. Your honest report provoked an interesting discussion here.

    When you've been on this board for a while, you'll see that you will be taken to task by the regulars for A. Paying too much. Be. Paying too little. See. Treating a prostitute like shit. The. Having a prostitute treat you like shit.

    It's all good and the responses tell us more about the posters attitudes, than about you.

    Thing is, I always wish there was a similar forum for DR P4P ladies.

    As a resident here, I maintain relationships with all kinds of chicas, (except the hard core SW's). They have all our types sorted and categorized. They have their stories to tell too, funny and sad. They've learned to read guys like a book, and can smell a bad news monger from fifty paces. I always take issue when mongers, who allow themselves to be ripped off, call them dumb girls. LOL.

    Keep the reports coming, we are all on a journey to the promised land here, with mistakes made, experience acquired, and hopefully getting there.

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