Boca Chica

[Chris Long]

My flight gets to SDQ at around 7.20 PM. I would like to think that by 8 PM, I would be ready to get out of the airport. What is the best bet to get to Boca Chica center from the airport at that hour safely? Also any (no hassle) hotel suggestion around the Parque central and price?

Thanks

GrownMan is right on his advice.

As soon as you exit the airport the taxis will be there they ware yellow shirts and hold up signs that say Taxi. They will tell you its $40 but if you negotiate and are willing to walk away you will probably be able to get it for $25. I have never paid more than $25 for the ride. Its only about 15 or 20 minutes from the airport to the strip in Boca. The hotel I think Grownman is referring to is the hotel Madera $40 a night for a standard room. I've stayed there a few times its ok good location being right between the beach and the strip Duarte. Bad Wi-Fi except for in the lobby a bit noisy in the mornings because of all of the activity from the beach.

Beach the park and along the strip during the day for chicas. Piano bar in the early evening and after about 1 am disco Batey. But generally any where along the strip during the evening. Heavy concentration of Euros in Boca especially Italians, most American expats hang out at the Boat House during the day, Its at the far end pretty much across from where disco Batey is. You will know its the right place because all of the Massage girls wearing white uniforms hang out in front offering massages during the day.

Chris

[GrownMan1]

My flight gets to SDQ at around 7.20 PM. I would like to think that by 8 PM, I would be ready to get out of the airport. What is the best bet to get to Boca Chica center from the airport at that hour safely? Also any (no hassle) hotel suggestion around the Parque central and price?

Thanks

Cab. They will try to charge 20 - 40. $15 if you are being hard. There is hotel on the corner of the park. It's OK think they are asking 45-55.

[Tempoecorto]

My flight gets to SDQ at around 7.20 PM. I would like to think that by 8 PM, I would be ready to get out of the airport. What is the best bet to get to Boca Chica center from the airport at that hour safely? Also any (no hassle) hotel suggestion around the Parque central and price?

Thanks

[Marc Anthony]

Wrx2005 gives good advice. If you are staying in a location longer than a few days keep in mind that if you do what he says after a short while they will stop bothering you. You'll be recognized as a guy who's just not interested and they don't want to waste their time.

Boca Chica and Sosua are small towns. Within a few days everyone will know you.

Also look at it from their POV. They are entrepeneurs. They are trying to make a living. Appreciate they are just doing due diligence in asking you if you want to buy something. It's not easy. They aren't having fun asking you either.

Relax. It's just a free market. If you don't want it just say no. After a short time they won't ask anymore.

[Lefeu]

Great report, should be read by everyone and be in Reports of Distinctions.

Yes indeed, a nice report, full of useful hints and well written. Definitely belongs in the hall of fame, I. E. Reports if Distonctions section.

[Bart1]

I know exactly what you are talking about. I saw how aggressive and consistent they were as far back as 2008. Much worse there than Sosua IMO.

Thats why nowadays I try to help a lot of guys out (mostly in Sosua) by offering them tips on how to deal with beggars, touts, aggressive chicas, venders, motoconchos etc.

1) Too much eye contact or acknowledgement when approached can work against you. Better to briefly acknowledge them, and just say no gracias. And repeat no gracias. Until they give up. Sort of like an indifference attitude. Then refocus on whatever you were doing or going to do. If you pay attention to chicas body language, they are a good example. When touts, venders, beggars etc come around, chicas pay them no mind. They won't talk to them, won't look up at them. Nothing. Thats the body language one should adopt. And for the most part chicas don't get bothered. Mostly it's men.

2) If in the middle of a conversation with others, don't allow anybody to rudely interrupt your conversation. Sometimes I put up a hand to indicate I'm not interested and I just keep talking as if they arent there. Or I may let them know they are being rude. I imagine BC is tougher because they will just stand there and won't go away. Nethertheless, I keep my conversation on track. The body language I am expressing is that we do not appreciate being interrupted, and we do not want anything, and have nothing to give.

3) I tell guys it's not in their best interest to tell anybody maybe, maybe later, tomorrow or I don't have money right now. Especially if the reason is you absolutely do not want whatever it is they are offering, or do not want to give anything. All of those responses are weak responses. And it often comes off as weakness to the individual trying to get something out of us. So, if you do not want whatever they are offering, just say no gracias. When they ask or say, ok later? Just say. No. No later. No gracias. My point. The reason why a lot of guys have trouble with touts, beggars etc is because their response language is all wrong. A common response for enough guys, say maybe later or tomorrow. Thinking they won't see them later or tomorrow. Another, is to give in, thinking that once they give up some money, buy the item, or pay for something the individual will go away. Instead that opens up the door to be harrassed even more. And eventually it becomes apparent that others they talk to will think that you are an easy mark. Thats why guys like that , sometimes get surrounded by touts and beggars, and opportunistic chicas.

4) Some time ago I started using some of their own strategy back on them, and it seemed to work. 2 choices. Either you respect me, or you don't. Most times, you'll be approached by someone acting friendly and sincere. In a few seconds the real intent of them approaching you will emerge. I may respond like this to whatever comes my way. I know you say you are my friend. Do you respect me? Of course they will say yes. Ok I'm not interested. I do not want it. If you respect me, you will stop asking me, and stop bothering me. If they protest, or try to plead their problems, I cut them off reminding them that they said they respect me. If they continue, I let them know that they do not respect me, and I definitely do not want to listen to anymore of what they have to say. What choice do they have, but to keep it moving.

5) generally speaking, Guys need to be mindful of how these folks try to take the lead, manipulate your time, control the situation in that moment. Guys need to recognize small minor things that they do. Like yelling at you from across the street just to get your attention. Touts, aggressive chicas and motoconcho drivers are good for that. Sometimes, people will come up to you and start engaging you catching you off guard. One needs to be aware of these tactics. It's somewhat designed to exploit your weaknesses. Get you to react without thinking. Thats how a lot of guys are getting pick pocketed in Sosua and elsewhere by chicas. A typical local wouldn't even stand there long ebnough to listen to some con / scam. But an unsuspecting tourist would. And trhats who gets preyed on the most.

6) Chicas that approach, begging for money or to buy them drinks / food: I just say no gracias. As if I assumed they were offering me something instead of trying to get something. I repeat as many times as deemed necessary. Another strategy is just to keep speaking english. Works well on those who can't understand a lick of english. Or, sometimes, I tell chicas right off the bat to requests for money or drinks, food etc. I'm cheapy cheapy. I used to say, I don't have money. Or some other excuse. I don't do that. Now, I just tell them I'm cheapy cheapy. If they insist I am not cheap. I insist that I am cheap. That I am muy malo. Reason being, once they realize you aint falling for their insincere request, they are going to get pissed anyway. Maybe call you some names. Cheapy is one of them. So I beat them to the punch. They can't shame a dude who has already labeled himself cheapy cheapy or muy malo. Besides, I think its good to let them get mad. Then you get to see how they really felt about you, behind the facade. And who wants to do favors for somebody who really has contempt for you or thinks you owe them because you got something they want?

Great report, should be read by everyone and be in Reports of Distinctions.

[Mr Enternational]

I like Boca Chica because it didn't kill me but Made Me Stronger. After a good week or two you are ready for the hustlers of the world.

Or either broke!

[Wrx2005]

This should be a Hustler's anthem. Keep asking until someone says yes. In Boca Chica especially. That is the cheat code. They will ask you until you break. They will come at you every day because they have nothing to lose.

I know exactly what you are talking about. I saw how aggressive and consistent they were as far back as 2008. Much worse there than Sosua IMO.

Thats why nowadays I try to help a lot of guys out (mostly in Sosua) by offering them tips on how to deal with beggars, touts, aggressive chicas, venders, motoconchos etc.

1) Too much eye contact or acknowledgement when approached can work against you. Better to briefly acknowledge them, and just say no gracias. And repeat no gracias. Until they give up. Sort of like an indifference attitude. Then refocus on whatever you were doing or going to do. If you pay attention to chicas body language, they are a good example. When touts, venders, beggars etc come around, chicas pay them no mind. They won't talk to them, won't look up at them. Nothing. Thats the body language one should adopt. And for the most part chicas don't get bothered. Mostly it's men.

2) If in the middle of a conversation with others, don't allow anybody to rudely interrupt your conversation. Sometimes I put up a hand to indicate I'm not interested and I just keep talking as if they arent there. Or I may let them know they are being rude. I imagine BC is tougher because they will just stand there and won't go away. Nethertheless, I keep my conversation on track. The body language I am expressing is that we do not appreciate being interrupted, and we do not want anything, and have nothing to give.

3) I tell guys it's not in their best interest to tell anybody maybe, maybe later, tomorrow or I don't have money right now. Especially if the reason is you absolutely do not want whatever it is they are offering, or do not want to give anything. All of those responses are weak responses. And it often comes off as weakness to the individual trying to get something out of us. So, if you do not want whatever they are offering, just say no gracias. When they ask or say, ok later? Just say. No. No later. No gracias. My point. The reason why a lot of guys have trouble with touts, beggars etc is because their response language is all wrong. A common response for enough guys, say maybe later or tomorrow. Thinking they won't see them later or tomorrow. Another, is to give in, thinking that once they give up some money, buy the item, or pay for something the individual will go away. Instead that opens up the door to be harrassed even more. And eventually it becomes apparent that others they talk to will think that you are an easy mark. Thats why guys like that , sometimes get surrounded by touts and beggars, and opportunistic chicas.

4) Some time ago I started using some of their own strategy back on them, and it seemed to work. 2 choices. Either you respect me, or you don't. Most times, you'll be approached by someone acting friendly and sincere. In a few seconds the real intent of them approaching you will emerge. I may respond like this to whatever comes my way. I know you say you are my friend. Do you respect me? Of course they will say yes. Ok I'm not interested. I do not want it. If you respect me, you will stop asking me, and stop bothering me. If they protest, or try to plead their problems, I cut them off reminding them that they said they respect me. If they continue, I let them know that they do not respect me, and I definitely do not want to listen to anymore of what they have to say. What choice do they have, but to keep it moving.

5) generally speaking, Guys need to be mindful of how these folks try to take the lead, manipulate your time, control the situation in that moment. Guys need to recognize small minor things that they do. Like yelling at you from across the street just to get your attention. Touts, aggressive chicas and motoconcho drivers are good for that. Sometimes, people will come up to you and start engaging you catching you off guard. One needs to be aware of these tactics. It's somewhat designed to exploit your weaknesses. Get you to react without thinking. Thats how a lot of guys are getting pick pocketed in Sosua and elsewhere by chicas. A typical local wouldn't even stand there long ebnough to listen to some con / scam. But an unsuspecting tourist would. And trhats who gets preyed on the most.

6) Chicas that approach, begging for money or to buy them drinks / food: I just say no gracias. As if I assumed they were offering me something instead of trying to get something. I repeat as many times as deemed necessary. Another strategy is just to keep speaking english. Works well on those who can't understand a lick of english. Or, sometimes, I tell chicas right off the bat to requests for money or drinks, food etc. I'm cheapy cheapy. I used to say, I don't have money. Or some other excuse. I don't do that. Now, I just tell them I'm cheapy cheapy. If they insist I am not cheap. I insist that I am cheap. That I am muy malo. Reason being, once they realize you aint falling for their insincere request, they are going to get pissed anyway. Maybe call you some names. Cheapy is one of them. So I beat them to the punch. They can't shame a dude who has already labeled himself cheapy cheapy or muy malo. Besides, I think its good to let them get mad. Then you get to see how they really felt about you, behind the facade. And who wants to do favors for somebody who really has contempt for you or thinks you owe them because you got something they want?

[GrownMan1]

This should be a Hustler's anthem. Keep asking until someone says yes. In Boca Chica especially. That is the cheat code. They will ask you until you break. They will come at you every day because they have nothing to lose. Up and down Durante you will see this and experience it. From the shoeshine boys that will offered to shine your flip-flops to the guy that sees you with chica and ask for money because he knows you just want to get away with your girl. Some will shake your hand and speak cordially Hello, my friend until they lowered the Boom. They will not stop. Once they say they have your attention they go in for the kill. Hey can I talk to you. You my friend you supposed to help me. Can I please have a cervesa. I don't have money to pay child support. My children are starving. No leche for my baby. I have no gas for my Moto. I will be a fool to say I heard it all. But I've heard a lot. I wish that I can save all the newbies. But the hyenas have to eat. The strip on Boca Chica is full of them. If you sit back stay quiet and observe the scene it's like animal kingdom. If you think you're a Tarzan you're right but you're not the king of the jungle. Just another Gringo like Tarzan was. I like Boca Chica because it didn't kill me but Made Me Stronger. After a good week or two you are ready for the hustlers of the world. Boca Chica strip is 1/4 the size of sosua. But it has 10 times the number of touts and beggars on the strip. If you are new or returning after being away for awhile everyone is coming at you. A closed mouth don't get fed is the only thing ringing in the back of their mind while they're dealing with you. If they can get you to look into their eyes and listen to their son requests the Trap is set. No today means yes tomorrow. Even if they can get you to say manana. They know you probably don't mean it but they still will be in your face come tomorrow. If they can get you to recommit yourself again so be it. I've heard some say okay how about tomorrow. If you break down and give in that means you're weak and they were right about you . . They will forget everything you did for them yesterday except for the fact that they know your weak . I've seen New Yorkers home I thought we're used to dealing with beggars fall victim . Mr E we need to make a shirt that says don't ask me for s*** in Spanish. Then again what good would that do in Boca Chica.

[TomJackin]

As I'm walking the ten minutes to my crib three skanks proposition me but fuck that I'm not Tomjackin LOL.

Damn brother, that really cut me; deep too!

I thank the father of jesus that I have the Coronado bridge at my disposal; just in case I decide to take the jump!

Besides that, I do plan on a trip to BC in January; if I live that long. Great hearing your reports.

I ran into Mr. E. in Tijuana recently, always a good time with ones that think alike.

[Mr Enternational]

I never mention anything about money to these chicas. As far as they know I'm just there looking for a pen pal. But I definitely agree the latter part of your post: they have nothing to lose in asking. And it probably works 1 out of every 5-7 guys she comes across online, which would encourage her to continue begging.

You can't knock the hustle. Many of us stay online meeting chicks. Same thing goes. It will work out with every how many out of how many, which will encourage us to continue looking for chicks online. It is all a numbers game no matter what angle you are shooting from. Same goes for the Nigerian prince emails. Every now and then a fish is going to take the bait.

[SavePros321]

Some chicas make DC their full-time jobs. They can get paid without getting laid.

Yeah, an interesting phenomenon. You've got simps out there literally setting these chicks up with a form of welfare system. "Why go fuck this gringo for 2000 pesos when I can three suckers to send me 2000 all while sitting on my ass?"

So Gogo, this was the other side of the equation I was referring to with your favorite. She's probably got enough guys incentiving her to where she can make more staying at home than she could going out to actually work for it.

But like my man Charles Tyler says, the further you get away from "The Matrix" (USA), the less of this you see. I've fucked well over 30 Colombian chicks to-date and practically keep in touch with all of them via FB. I've only had two ask me for money. A few asks for gifts here and then when I am on my way down. But none of this "my child and I will starve to death if you do not send $50 within the next few hours" begging bullshit, LOL.

[SavePros321]

When you lead with money on the short term what else do you expect? Besides they also have a long list of other less savvy guys that will open up their wallet for them. So it's not really a problem for them if you keep your wallet closed. For them it's like the "hail Mary" pass in football. Nothing ventured; Nothing gained.

I never mention anything about money to these chicas. As far as they know I'm just there looking for a pen pal. But I definitely agree the latter part of your post: they have nothing to lose in asking. And it probably works 1 out of every 5-7 guys she comes across online, which would encourage her to continue begging.

[GrownMan1]

This was the one thing that turned me off from dealing with Dominicanas long distance-wise. These are the only chicks I have met that are quick to tell you all the problems in their lives the minute they meet you. It almost always came up during the second message exchange once you moved the conversation from DC to messaging (it was Skype for me a while back). I realize it is usually a tug at your heart strings to get you to open up your wallet, but I'm like "Damn, have you no shame?

The ones I would get were about "la luz" being cut off, needing to payback money borrowed from a relative, or money for school books. Oh, and of course "no hay comida". It's like they are saying "Papi, you don't want this pussy to stave to death before you get here, do you?" LMAO!

This is why I don't do Dominican Cupid unless I am in the area. All that long distance shit for the birds. Talking to a chica for a Time before you go on your vacation only leads to her request for money. On An average of 4-6 message transactions. Some chicas make DC their full-time jobs. They can get paid without getting laid. My top distributor had five guys and to girls that I know of. Listen up newbies Okskool was just talking about it. There are enough 1000 + 1500 peso chicas running around needy in the DR. If you import excuse me transport hey chica to your location you are stuck with her. You have to feed her and cater to her if you are a gentleman. On an average I spend anywhere between 2500 to 4000 on a transport. For me DC cupid is good if I'm in an unfamiliar territory and need to make a connection. Even with that I still have to filter out a lot of chicas. If you on a short vacation dealing with transporting chica is very time consuming. If they do so they are rarely on time. They need babysitting fees transport fees and all of that is a Gamble. That even applies to girls you've already dealt with in the past. There are some success stories. I've had a few. But when things go unclaimed I usually work better for me. I like them RAW. Of course in sosua it's a different ball game with me. 60% of my chicas are repeats.

[SubCmdr]

This was the one thing that turned me off from dealing with Dominicanas long distance-wise. These are the only chicks I have met that are quick to tell you all the problems in their lives the minute they meet you. It almost always came up during the second message exchange once you moved the conversation from DC to messaging (it was Skype for me a while back). I realize it is usually a tug at your heart strings to get you to open up your wallet, but I'm like "Damn, have you no shame?

The ones I would get were about "la luz" being cut off, needing to payback money borrowed from a relative, or money for school books. Oh, and of course "no hay comida". It's like they are saying "Papi, you don't want this pussy to stave to death before you get here, do you?" LMAO!

When you lead with money on the short term what else do you expect? Besides they also have a long list of other less savvy guys that will open up their wallet for them. So it's not really a problem for them if you keep your wallet closed. For them it's like the "hail Mary" pass in football. Nothing ventured; Nothing gained.

I haven't found one chica that told me calamity was about to befall them actually have anything bad happen to them when I told them no and just continued on about my business. The chicas were surviving before you arrived. They will continue to survive afterwards.