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10-12-20 13:12 #3541
Posts: 2490Originally Posted by MrGogo [View Original Post]
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10-12-20 12:07 #3540
Posts: 1348A different perspective
Remember me saying in a previous post that I volunteer to give massages to women? For all of the women that I volunteered to massage, using your premise, I was doing it because I am supposedly a reflection of who they are. That is simply not true. I can't take credit for who they are. I volunteered massages, because that is what I like to do. It's part of my way of initiating intimacy. It's about who I am, and what I do which is a reflection of me, not a reflection of who the other person is. The times I may not volunteer to offer a massage may have more to do with what is going on in the moment, in my head, whether I'm tired etc. Not because of how I am supposedly assessing the individual in front of me for who they are.
And as far is attraction is concerned. Attraction is something that can happen with out effort. We attract and repulse 100's of people in a lifetime. Single people, married people, co workers, acquaintances, church mates, school mates, old flames, undesirables etc. Relationships are not always formed from every one we attract. So you can't measure by who a person is a reflection of, by just using a few relationships or encounters. A correlation or coincidence of something does not imply causation. You have to give reasons or rationale to support the theory. If there are instances where a conclusion of something doesnt apply, well then the theory or premise is not an absolute.
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10-12-20 07:57 #3539
Posts: 1348Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]1. The women you encounter and who respond to you, anticipate and meet your desires and needs on their own volition are a reflection of who you are.
2. If you are attracting very few women who volunteer or don't have to be put on notice, this is an example of how you stand in her eyes.
You have to factor in the environment one is in, how individuals are conditioned and taught within that environment. You can apply what I'm saying to many other examples. It doesn't have to be about women and men. But it would be incorrect to say, you are attracting only a few individuals that volunteer, because of how you stand in their eyes. That is a flawed conclusion. Because there are instances where that does not apply. You can encounter very few individuals that volunteer, because the numbers of volunteer minded individuals are not in abundance or available.
Here's an analogy/example of what I see as a flawed premise. Try to use what you are saying in regards to having 10 different friends, all with different personalities. Using your premise, an individual attracted all of these people and established a friendship, based on who that individual supposedly is. Explain to me how you would sort out who an individual is, by each individual friends personality/behavior? And why you wouldnt simply assume, that each friends individual character or behavior is a reflection of themselves?
3. There are only so many top quality women to go around, and they go to the best guys, just like you try to go for the best girls.
As for going with the best girls? I think that is a false conclusion as well. Guys tend to go for what attracts them. Sometimes that leads to seeking compatibility. But if it's just sex a man is interested in, that doesn't necessarily require or entail going for the best girl.
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10-11-20 22:41 #3538
Posts: 1348Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
She was like the princess in the movie Coming To America. Before the nuptials Eddies character took his bride to be aside, to try to get to know her. So he started off asking her. What do you like? And her response was "Whatever you like". Eddie frustrated, he says I know you know you what I like, but I want to know what you like, not what I like. She just repeated, I like whatever you like. Well that is kinda like the way some women operate.
This particular chick I was messing with, would never initiate or suggest something for us to do together. I even tried to pull her aside to talk to her about it, numerous times. Chick just would not budge. What I think the problem was, she had a sense of entitlement. And for her to suggest or plan something was beneath her, because to her it was a mans role to do everything to make sure she was entertained. In other words she was not a TEAM PLAYER. The most I got out of her was this.
If we went somewhere, without warning she would pay for what we were doing. But she would never give me the satisfaction of knowing she was going to do that. It was always a surprise. I did not feel relieved just because she paid for us. She would never give me the satisfaction of feeling special by suggesting, planning and then inviting me to do something together with her.
Needless to say, the only redeeming value was our sexual chemistry. Thats it. After I got tired of that, we went our separate ways. On her part, the only reason why she dealt with me, is probably because she thought I was going to be like the other suckers she dated, that were paying her bills. I wasnt doing any of that. And another reason? I was closing on a house, and she thought that I was going to move her in.
One day, I had a heart to heart with her. I asked her. If you and I were living together in this house, please tell me what a typical day or week would be like? The chick could not and would not answer that question. Why? Because her motivation for being with me, was fraudulent. I was supposed to be blinded by the juice I was getting regularly. But of course I wasnt having it. Been single forever. Never knew a woman that could pass the long term compatibility test. But then even if one did, there is no way I would be legally bound to any relationship based on the fucked up laws and social customs that men have to deal with today. And I'm damn sure not to going to allow some chick in a foreign country to have me hemmed up.
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10-11-20 20:47 #3537
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Wrx2005 [View Original Post]
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10-11-20 20:04 #3536
Posts: 1348Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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10-11-20 19:59 #3535
Posts: 1348Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
In other words men are not particularly expecting women to match what they do on behalf of women, especially financially. It's about a woman thinking on her feet in terms of how she can demonstrate reciprocation towards a man by doing something that that man values. Better if she is doing it willingly, and it is something she knows he values, not just something she is willing to do to please herself. Better still if she does it on her own without the man having to ask her to do it. Case in point. I like massages. I like giving massages.
Many chicks I have encountered in life will never have to ask for a massage. I will volunteer. Very few women I have encountered will volunteer to do certain things. They will do it, but they have to be asked or put on notice. When women don't think on their feet in regards to a mans needs, wants or comforts, that is an example of how men may equate a womans value as NOT having something to offer or not bringing anything to the table besides pussy. If a woman brought some of her finances to the table, at least that might help somewhat. But enough men may not need or expect a womans financial input. Men typically dont measure a womans value to himself by her financial prowess. Unless he is a parasitical creature that feeds off of women.
Anything a man may do on behalf of a woman, a woman, if she is paying attention and not selfish, can recognize his efforts. Through communication she learns that that man likes massages, personal grooming, his house cleaned or laundry done, a meal prepared with her cleaning up afterwards. Looking out for him in negotiations when out and about. Whatever it may be. Those are things a woman can do which would be considered providing commensurate reciprocation. The key is that it is genuine effort on her behalf, and not just a woman faking the funk to trick a guy into believing she enjoys doing it, when reality she is just trying to make a false impression ( like chicks who offer to pay half of a bill, but dont really mean it ). All of those things can be offered, and still preserve a womans femininity.
Now when it comes to p4 p, for the most part most men just want a woman to at least try to provide the basics to an agreement / arrangement. Don't ask for a condom to suck dick when you agreed, to no condom. Don't work on your period, and expect to get paid in full when the dude chooses to abort. Don't agree to a TLN, when you know you are going to have someone call at a certain time so you can get out of it. Enough men are not expecting miracles from unprofessional prostitutes, just a fair deal. Thing is, enough women are getting worse and worse when it comes to that concept. Kinda reminds me of a movie of a drug deal gone bad. A simple exchange of money for the drugs. One side is greedy, they want the money and the drugs. Dealing with some women is like that.
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10-11-20 19:52 #3534
Posts: 15949Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
One problem I have with Dominicans in particular is that anytime I ask them what they would like to do they have not one suggestion. Bih I am right here with a pocket full of money. You can do anything you want in this country and you have not one idea? Not I want to see this new movie that is out. Not I want to go to Puerto Plata and see the Teleferico. Not I want you to take me shopping and spend a lot of money on me. Nothing. They are like a deer in headlights.
Although it is very rare, whenever I meet a Dominican that can make a suggestion about something I am so fucking grateful. Just try asking them what they would like to do when you are together. You will think you asked them something about quantum physics.
Originally Posted by Sawassdee [View Original Post]
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10-11-20 18:59 #3533
Posts: 111Agreement Here
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
Unless of course she's an artist with you. AND she is serious about her Art! LOLOLOL.
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10-11-20 15:18 #3532
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Wrx2005 [View Original Post]
Look for and seek out femininity. After all, you know how to be a man, right? So why wouldn't you appreciate and enjoy the company of a woman for simply knowing how to be a woman.
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10-11-20 14:14 #3531
Posts: 1348Originally Posted by Sawassdee [View Original Post]
Additionally, because men are not collectively on the same page (in fact were more in competition with each other, than being allies). Men will make excuses and make allowances for women. But be harder on men and hold men accountable, even if a woman is more at fault And good women don't correct or teach their own to be any better than they are. In fact it's encouraged for women to be entitled to privileges and meeting lower standards. Good women generally turn a blind eye to their faults and the faults of their own. And maybe they have their reasons. Men as tricks (direct or indirect tricks) arent exactly highly respected and / or revered by women.
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10-11-20 00:42 #3530
Posts: 111This is the why we negotiate
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I personally love shopping at Walmart and buying gas at QT and Racetrack gas stations. I give them most of my business just to watch their female employees lift boxes, stock shelves, sweep up inside or outside, clean up spills or nasty ass bathrooms etc. Its always a simple reminder to me of what she knows she has to look forward to if she thinks too high of herself and has no other skill. I think of this when they are quoting stupid ass prices or giving continual poor performances. Women do have value but many don't earn like that. Harsh but my truth.
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10-10-20 21:47 #3529
Posts: 2490Originally Posted by GrownMan1 [View Original Post]
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10-10-20 20:35 #3528
Posts: 15949Originally Posted by GrownMan1 [View Original Post]
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10-10-20 18:48 #3527
Posts: 2490Originally Posted by Wrx2005 [View Original Post]