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  1. #3484

    Newbie rules

    You sound very green. LOL. Nothing wrong with that! But off jump, why E S. It is a bad idea to to bring a chica to your room before the price is set. WHY? Because she might say you should have known it was $200 USA For and hour and then the cops arrive. No bueno! And BTW, being that you are new, do not use an Air BnB. They might just give you the key for the week and leave you at the mercy of hardened pros. They can smell you, bro. And you're not going to be able to fend off a "Hoe-Spazz" by yourself yet. Use a chica friendly hotel your first few times out. They know the scene, they know the problem chicas and most importantly will not allow you to bring in a minor!

    How to ask how much?. This is the easiest and hardest thing to do isn't it? The Vets on here will say to just ask. And they're right, IF, you're in a place like Sosua, Boca or the red light districts in the Cap.

    But I know, somewhere in the back of your mind you're asking yourself what if she isn't a "working girl" and how do I avoid getting slapped in the face or totally ruining something that might be special? Hey, you never know! Especially if you are NOT in those cities I mentioned and in a regular locals bar. The great beauty about the DR. The women are plentiful and aggressive and sex is good fun and no big deal. Say that you want her to go back to your room and what can you give her? DR men are just as aggressive so they are used to getting asked for some ass. Just be nicer and suave about it. Dassit bro! Remember, you can tip. Just don't overpay. And RTFF. Haaaaa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiomega  [View Original Post]
    I heard it's a bad idea to bring a chicha to your room without negotiating the terms first. How do you broach the subject of compensation?

    Do you ask point blank? I know depending on where you go worldwide, some culture are way more open with those kind of talks. What about the DR?

  2. #3483

    Both have good points

    MaddTraveler, you bring up good points for the traveler that is there for a short period of time and the tools (dating apps, or references) to utilize while there. SubCmdr viewpoints are clear for someone that is there for a long period or permanently. He can just relax and he is not under the clock to try and meet non pros because your trip will end in soon. You can build an organic relationship without the same tools as the short time traveler. I am not saying that it can't be done in a short vacation time frame but you will need some stars aligned, right place at the right time for it to happen.

  3. #3482

    Video Chat

    I agree 100% on the video interview regardless of how you source your Chicas. I interviewed 10 before my last trip and locked in two. I'm repeating with one and interviewing now for number 2. L on my next trip in October. I actually did 3 separate video chats with the ones I picked just to be sure. Nothing is 100% but for me, I need to see & talk to the woman.

    Strawhat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sawassdee  [View Original Post]
    Getting 100% of what you want is truly a numbers game. So, why not increase the #'s of chicas you interact with?

    The return on your investment is 100's of times better than spending painful time with crazy girls, or buying girls drinks, food or paying for transportation to find out they are not the ones. Average $40 1 time investment brings 100's to 1000's of in the location of your choice fresh potential opportunities for interviews right to your fingertips for 30 days. Secondly, 99.6% of these ladies you will never meet walking the streets during your visit. Third, interviews are quick and typically painless, and finished in less than 1 to 10 minutes worth of complete texting all online getting what you need to know with the same set of copy and paste questions before deciding to meet up or move on (cut her loose). Fourth, these ladies are actively (that means right this moment) looking for the RIGHT male company (It is a win. Win for both parties involved). And lastly, but by far the most important piece of this puzzle are The Ladies who like the way YOU LOOK will CHOOSE and Inbox YOU FIRST! No matter what each of our different appearances, there are Ladies who get turned on by YOURS!

    Tip. - Make it a point to interview the girls that reach out to you FIRST and not the other way around.

    We all know the girl that chooses you will provide you with the most noteworthy fun! The time or sessions spent with her are always better than the girls you do most of the legwork with.

    Next tip. If interview went well, get them over to your private location first. Away from other local eyes and interactions. They too want privacy while they do their dirt. They are online to get there needs met quickly and DISCRETELY and not advertising in the mall or the street. Upon arrival Immediately make them feel safe and desired while warming them up to fun with you and your light physical touch (nicely as you talk not creepy like) and Go for the fuck. If they are in your apt. / room they came with the mindset to do the deed. Online dating apps works like gangbusters LOL. P.S. If they need to meet over dinner move on.

  4. #3481

    My game isn't for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I have learned not to debate the islanders that wish to throw bombs in between trips. If you want to be a PUA more power to you. If you think barrio is a location and not a attitude more power to you. If you think you know more than someone like me who actually lives here on the island then you are just another critic like the Mr. Twins. More power to you brother. Instead of trying to school me or debate my methods give us some insight into your own.

    The statements above prove that you lack knowledge at best and are uneducated at worst! You cannot import a girl that is already here. So who is the idiot?

    When you live here you have social circles were you still meet girls in person. When you live here you have to perform all the activities of daily life (going to malls, grocery stores and locations of all types) and those activities bring you in contact with girls in regular situations all the time. When you live here (and you are like me, but we know you are not) you have real girlfriends that you have been seeing ever since you hit the island..
    Dude, the few things I said made you that upset? LOL, damn man, it's actually pretty common among gringos, date non pros, fuckd them and send them on their way with nothing. Obvious you want to give them something, but truly I've had chicas refusing to take any LOL. Yes, try dating a real non pro, someone with an actual job. Some will even pay for dinner, take you to visit their family, want to build a genuine friendship. Did you have to pay all of your girlfriends you've dated during your life? Mongering to me is a mix between paying hardcore pros, and meeting soft and sweet tinder / SA / Cupid college chics for dating, hoping to make a foreign boyfriend; use my good looks and dance moves and get laid free at times. Don't hate if you can't do this, not my fault, stop sounding like a bitter ahole.

    We all trying to learn and have fun hombre. It's so funny how some losers get to the island on their Social security or Disability income for couple months, and they suddenly claim to know more or claim to have lived there. When really they don't even know if the one they're writing to could be part Dominican, or was raised there or lived there longer than they did LOL. Renting a $200 apartment in Sosua, not speaking a word of Spanish, never been involved with the real non-sex working families in the Dominican republic or other activities, does make you a local, in fact you technically still haven't lived there. You must have a cedula, a bank acct, a business, a marriage, be part of real ex-pat group and not mongering boards, and all the above I mentioned to claim so. Until then just STFU. Now who's pathetic?

  5. #3480
    I heard it's a bad idea to bring a chicha to your room without negotiating the terms first. How do you broach the subject of compensation?

    Do you ask point blank? I know depending on where you go worldwide, some culture are way more open with those kind of talks. What about the DR?

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieLima  [View Original Post]
    This post should be in a holy book of all faiths! The Dept. Of Mongers approve this message!

    Dating apps are the way to go. Make the apps work for why o you! Worked like magic in the Capital.

    Tinder costs a little over a $100 bucks a year for w o r l d w I d e chica coverage.

    Caribbean Cupid is great too, and it works for all the islands. Trust me, worth every penny.

    I went 5 for 6 with Tinder on my first run. Ironically the 6th just hit me up out of the blue-today. And she wants to faak. I love tinder!

    And pair this with Uber for a 1-2 punch you won't believe. It's like Uber Eats-for Pussy! Delivery!! And its so cheap!

    And a little pro tip from me: make sure to tell them to bring their cedula (I. D.) in case they ask at the bar (really, it's so she can be allowed to go into your hotel room).

  6. #3479

    100%

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Just when you were making a solid point you jump off the grid. "Pricing is not online higher either", You could be right depending on what you've been paying. Anyone that understands the current value for sex in The Dominican of republic and not the US can make their own Judgment. To actually say it's not higher makes me wonder what you've been paying? How long have you been coming to this country? Many newbies think that the price they're P4 P is not high even though they're being gringo taxed.
    I don't know if you are a newbie or not. But let me give you a little of reality that you can 'easy' learn. Normal girls do not get on tinder, Dominican Cupid, or any other social site looking to hook up with older or younger gingos that can't even speak the language. Even if they speak the language means nothing to the Chica. The Dominicans are nationalist. Despite what you may think and how you spend your time with them; the Dominican women will always be loyal to their Dominican men. (Klk) They are not looking for anything from a foreign man but his money. They are not innocently looking for a good guy. The most you can get is a respectable understanding between each other. Once you understand that it's all about how you want to deal with them. It's your time and money after all.

    When was the last time you ask a normal girl how much would it cost to spend time with you? Like you I like the normal pictures. She may be a typical Dominican that's willing to P4 P. Advertising online is not the norm for anything other than Chicas looking for money or a sponsor to their Financial needs. They don't need us for sex. There are too many handsome Dominican men at their fingertips. You say you take chicas out and have sex with them for free! I do not doubt you. However, I've learned from my years coming here that free shit will cost you more in the end.
    Just want to save some of the newbs from reading all this inaccurate info:

    Been going to DR for more than 15 years, have friends and fam who live there and so did I. Am I qualified enough?

    1. Yes there are plenty of normal girls, non putas in Tinder and Cupid dating sites. You can't tell me who I have fuckd. In fact, some of them will get upset with you if you hint that they are putas or if you offer money in exchange for sex.

    2. When I say you can ask how much they charge, no one is stupid to ask just like that. It means you would hint it in your a phrase like. "What would I have to give you to spend a day or two with me? Then they'll be straightforward if they are a hooker. But honestly I'll try that with 1 out of 20 chatters because within a few inbox msg you will know immediately if they are a normal working class girl with a job, or a a P4P chica.

    3. The game of pretty young foreign girls dating Americans and Europeans is nothing new. You sound like you're in your 20's or haven't travelled much. Get your head out of arse and understand the dynamics behind it. Yes those chicas do have lots of young good looking Dominican men for sex. But when you grow up in poverty, uneducated, and living in a third World country, your dream is to escape, to find opportunities to get away and live in a better country. To put it simply, we bring them hope. Even a week worth of friendship. It's a fantasy, and women are all about fantasies, dreams. Therefore being a foreigner gives you power, it raises your value as an Alpha male. Being of high value to women includes the following in this order: Financial stability, Charisma, Looks, Sex. Yes sex is something that us men are dominated by, and we worry more about looks then women do. Women are more passionate and driven toward successful men, men with title, men with homes, wealth, etc. Do you see now how being a foreigner with powerful dollars in our pocket, our beneficial it can be? How we can use the status quo to our favor? That's all mongering is about. We can sport bang the pros hourly, or we can stretch our dollars to wife up some young beauties and have a wife in every country we step foot in. We can't do this America, not in Feminazzi land. You can be 50 years old, overweight as a gringo and looking like a chomp, and still a young beauty in those poor countries will run away with you instead of living in poverty with a Dominican beau. Yes some will use you or kill you in your sleep, run away with your money or hope you die soon if you bring them back to the US LOL, otherwise you the monger are at an advantage if you follow the monger rules. P.S. - If you think those Dominican men are so hot, perhaps you want them too? Off topic but I couldn't help it since you brought it up. FYI, I am still young and can stand next to anyone of those guys and be chosen. Without counting my money. Not all mongers are the same. Some of you perhaps MUST pay all the time and I get it. Maybe you're older, you've had your time, not all of you need spouses or real gfs in life anymore nor in need of future family and I get it, you don't dress or smell nice anymore LOL. But just do not assume everyone in these types of boards are old men who can't get laid free, or aren't good looking or aren't seeking something more than just quick nuts. Mongering for me is for fun, seeking adventures, away from rude American women with dicks (yes most have dicks or lesbos, physically or mentally), and finding nicer women who appreciate a man who can afford dinner and pay the rent.

  7. #3478

    Yes sir!

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieLima  [View Original Post]
    T

    And pair this with Uber for a 1-2 punch you won't believe. It's like Uber Eats-for Pussy! Delivery!! And its so cheap!

    And a little pro tip from me: make sure to tell them to bring their cedula (I. D.) in case they ask at the bar (really, it's so she can be allowed to go into your hotel room).
    Excellent!

  8. #3477

    Yes! Dammit! Yess!

    This post should be in a holy book of all faiths! The Dept. Of Mongers approve this message!

    Dating apps are the way to go. Make the apps work for why o you! Worked like magic in the Capital.

    Tinder costs a little over a $100 bucks a year for w o r l d w I d e chica coverage.

    Caribbean Cupid is great too, and it works for all the islands. Trust me, worth every penny.

    I went 5 for 6 with Tinder on my first run. Ironically the 6th just hit me up out of the blue-today. And she wants to faak. I love tinder!

    And pair this with Uber for a 1-2 punch you won't believe. It's like Uber Eats-for Pussy! Delivery!! And its so cheap!

    And a little pro tip from me: make sure to tell them to bring their cedula (I. D.) in case they ask at the bar (really, it's so she can be allowed to go into your hotel room).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sawassdee  [View Original Post]
    Getting 100% of what you want is truly a numbers game. So, why not increase the #'s of chicas you interact with?

    The return on your investment is 100's of times better than spending painful time with crazy girls, or buying girls drinks, food or paying for transportation to find out they are not the ones. Average $40 1 time investment brings 100's to 1000's of in the location of your choice fresh potential opportunities for interviews right to your fingertips for 30 days. Secondly, 99.6% of these ladies you will never meet walking the streets during your visit. Third, interviews are quick and typically painless, and finished in less than 1 to 10 minutes worth of complete texting all online getting what you need to know with the same set of copy and paste questions before deciding to meet up or move on (cut her loose). Fourth, these ladies are actively (that means right this moment) looking for the RIGHT male company (It is a win. Win for both parties involved). And lastly, but by far the most important piece of this puzzle are The Ladies who like the way YOU LOOK will CHOOSE and Inbox YOU FIRST! No matter what each of our different appearances, there are Ladies who get turned on by YOURS!.

  9. #3476

    No words farther from the Truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Newbies listen to this point. This is why I suggest and use the dating sites. I agree most of us cannot operate like more established mongers. When you don't prepare right you are left with the barefooted rats.
    Getting 100% of what you want is truly a numbers game. So, why not increase the #'s of chicas you interact with?

    The return on your investment is 100's of times better than spending painful time with crazy girls, or buying girls drinks, food or paying for transportation to find out they are not the ones. Average $40 1 time investment brings 100's to 1000's of in the location of your choice fresh potential opportunities for interviews right to your fingertips for 30 days. Secondly, 99.6% of these ladies you will never meet walking the streets during your visit. Third, interviews are quick and typically painless, and finished in less than 1 to 10 minutes worth of complete texting all online getting what you need to know with the same set of copy and paste questions before deciding to meet up or move on (cut her loose). Fourth, these ladies are actively (that means right this moment) looking for the RIGHT male company (It is a win. Win for both parties involved). And lastly, but by far the most important piece of this puzzle are The Ladies who like the way YOU LOOK will CHOOSE and Inbox YOU FIRST! No matter what each of our different appearances, there are Ladies who get turned on by YOURS!

    Tip. - Make it a point to interview the girls that reach out to you FIRST and not the other way around.

    We all know the girl that chooses you will provide you with the most noteworthy fun! The time or sessions spent with her are always better than the girls you do most of the legwork with.

    Next tip. If interview went well, get them over to your private location first. Away from other local eyes and interactions. They too want privacy while they do their dirt. They are online to get there needs met quickly and DISCRETELY and not advertising in the mall or the street. Upon arrival Immediately make them feel safe and desired while warming them up to fun with you and your light physical touch (nicely as you talk not creepy like) and Go for the fuck. If they are in your apt. / room they came with the mindset to do the deed. Online dating apps works like gangbusters LOL. P.S. If they need to meet over dinner move on.

  10. #3475
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Of course there's a diff. Speak for yourself and try to apply a little thing called logic:
    No one wants to be running around during covid and hitting on girls only at the malls or hitting on barefooted walking rats.
    Newbies listen to this point. This is why I suggest and use the dating sites. I agree most of us cannot operate like more established mongers. When you don't prepare right you are left with the barefooted rats.

  11. #3474

    Repost

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Great report. The same as I always say: You don't pay what they want, you pay what you negotiate.
    Let me tell you about this guy. I met Sawassdee The other day. He got acquainted with Chris H who introduced us. He was just getting his good rhythm. Dancing around the ring like Ali. He was jabbing, moving, and enjoying the fruits of his hard work. This Colombian vet was floating like a butterfly with his bags in his hand jumping from Boca Chica to the capital. Giving exhibition bouts to chicas In both areas. Having a no-show it's not expected but prepared for. He's not licking his wounds. He has a Plan be. If that doesn't work Play from the muscle and adapt to What's available. All of this under new curfew enforcement. Float like a butterfly and move like a G. Poetry in motion enjoying his vacation. Do your thang young man do your thang!

  12. #3473
    Quote Originally Posted by MaddTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Pricing is not higher online either. You can easily detect the ones that are normal from working sex girls, ie based on their pics, what they say to you, hell you can even ask them what they will charge... LOL and I'll import .
    Just when you were making a solid point you jump off the grid. "Pricing is not online higher either", You could be right depending on what you've been paying. Anyone that understands the current value for sex in The Dominican of republic and not the US can make their own Judgment. To actually say it's not higher makes me wonder what you've been paying? How long have you been coming to this country? Many newbies think that the price they're P4 P is not high even though they're being gringo taxed.
    I don't know if you are a newbie or not. But let me give you a little of reality that you can 'easy' learn. Normal girls do not get on tinder, Dominican Cupid, or any other social site looking to hook up with older or younger gingos that can't even speak the language. Even if they speak the language means nothing to the Chica. The Dominicans are nationalist. Despite what you may think and how you spend your time with them; the Dominican women will always be loyal to their Dominican men. (Klk) They are not looking for anything from a foreign man but his money. They are not innocently looking for a good guy. The most you can get is a respectable understanding between each other. Once you understand that it's all about how you want to deal with them. It's your time and money after all.

    When was the last time you ask a normal girl how much would it cost to spend time with you? Like you I like the normal pictures. She may be a typical Dominican that's willing to P4 P. Advertising online is not the norm for anything other than Chicas looking for money or a sponsor to their Financial needs. They don't need us for sex. There are too many handsome Dominican men at their fingertips. You say you take chicas out and have sex with them for free! I do not doubt you. However, I've learned from my years coming here that free shit will cost you more in the end.

  13. #3472
    Quote Originally Posted by Sawassdee  [View Original Post]
    The running theme from them all seems to be more than enough chicas on the ground, however they are not hesitating to present knock your head off prices up front. (3000 & 4000 pesos). (I did get the 2 girls for $20 US each offering quite a few times walking up to Ole. They are negotiable just thought newbies should know the tick tock.
    Great report. The same as I always say: You don't pay what they want, you pay what you negotiate.

  14. #3471

    For the Newbies to the Game I met in Boca Chica that I hope joined and other Newbies

    Senior members please over look this post.

    I met a few Newbies to the game on this trip (Good dudes) nonetheless new and got put on by YouTube videos. They talked about being gamed continuously by Pros with their crazy high pricing and free money request while on this visit. After hearing them out I shared some info and recommended that they become members of this site. I told them truthfully, I expanded my understanding of the game thru business experience, people I met along the way while engaging in this game and most importantly the knowledge shared by the contributions ISG. I decided to write down what I shared with them and am going to leave this piece here in the forum for the Newbies to the Game so that do not have to go back to far while they RTTF in ordered to get educated. Senior members please indulge me and overlook this piece.

    Negotiating with Pros.

    The Art of the Deal. For Game and Life.

    If it is not Personal, then its business. Negotiate it upfront.

    Questions to ask her if you are confused / not sure? Is this personal or is this business? Are you doing this money? If so, how much money are you looking for?

    P4 P- is an opportunity to have your needs / wants met for a specified amount of your money negotiated up front! It is (A Job) and you are the boss.

    It doesn't matter if they are answering your advertisement or presenting their product to you.

    He who has the Gold is King. Their goal is to get your earned income into there pockets by hook - (Skillset to do the Job you want), or by crook - (pretenders that fake skillsets to game good people like yourself for your money with little to nothing in return).

    You get whatever it is you want. Don't settle for less if its important. Somebody will come along who will do the whole job for you happily.

    You tell them what the entire job requires up front (what you want done, how you want it done, time or any other limits you can think of), find out their Will do's and Won't do's. Won't dos don't get hired no matter how attractive the package. Will do's energies need to match your desired energy. If not, they need to go. Paying for a bad experience is a lesson in itself.

    The majority of us are unlearning the taught lessons of our upbringing and environment that continue the cycle of giving away all of our earned money for nothing in return just because someone asks you to.

    You can do much better for the Charity of your choice or discovering by being the boss of your own resources. GET WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR MONEY!

    In most cases the opportunities will present themselves to you. You owe them nothing for them just presenting their wares. If you allow them to interview with you, you do not have to pay for coffee, meal, beer or transportation. Imagine you doing that on an interview with a potential employer plus telling them what you aren't willing to do and still expecting to get job, get paid top dollar fully and request transportation money back and forth.

    For some of them (The pretenders) their job is to get your money out of your pockets however they can. They will beg for money or goods, or may even scream at the top of their lungs you are cheap. Smile and tell them no thank you and let them walk and forget about them. Its purely business and that's their business tactic. Sometimes it works for them so they do it. And they do it to everyone.

    At times they may decide to stay in your face or area with their negative energy. Don't take it personally. Do not look at them or acknowledge them. They are hoping that their negativity will command your FEELINGS to stupidly overrule your good sense and force you to give them the job or to reach into your pockets to pay them something to leave. Either way they want what you have by crook. Get up walk away if you can, forget about them and set up shop elsewhere.

    You are the Boss of your life and no one else. Chang your mind, thoughts and your life.

    Get what you want. Fu#% anybody else with an opinion for control of your mindset or pockets that does not serve your needs.

    Nobody is giving you money. So, nobody else counts! Stay positive, trust and know as long as you focus on what you want and expect it, it will present itself. We all have chicas from around the world that are straight up wifey material that are everything we need that showed up because we looked.

    Focus on what you want and in no way on what you don't want including energy that does not fit yours.

    Lastly be okay with making mistakes in this game as long as you analyze them and learn something.

    Happy hunting brothers.

  15. #3470

    Sawassdee

    Great report bro. I know an expat that lives in este Santo domingo who is scared of Boca Chica, so its funny seeing an off islander who can show him how it's done. Your travel experience showed in your reporting. Bravo.

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