Santiago

[Npaul1]

I hope the Platinum Castle has good luck with their new move to another house with a pool and air conditioning. I could not take the lack of air conditioning at the house, so I checked into the just opended Marriott, by the airport, for $99 a night including breakfast.

On my first night at the Castle, I enjoyed Melissa, a slim sexy girl with 3 kids, my first night at the Castle. Agreed to pay her $100 for all night, but she was typical, complained about not being able to sleep and started talking on her phone to a girlfriend, complaining to me, then took off after midnight. So much whining and complaining I just wanted her to get the fuck out. You practically need to chain the girls to the bed from the DR to get todo las noches.

Saturday I visited the Gomez Diez Car Wash and the mall Plaza International(unsuccessfully) and hung out with an attractive divorcee I met at the hotel, I did not get any pussy, but I have to rest Mr. happy once in a while and save up my leche for my next fuck, it should be oozing out her ears tonight.

I think the Castle has a long, long way to go to get to the status of its website, or the Medellin Mansion or Blackbeards, but Andre is a decent guy and I wish him luck against the odds. He is struggling, but I admire his dedication and hope he can make a go of it.

[Npaul1]

I vistited the Car Wash, Gomez Diez, at 3 pm Saturday. It did not have much in quality. Sound system was blaring so loud I could not talk to the bartender and order a drink without shouting in his ear.

The 4-5 girls hanging around there were 2s to 4s. Gorditas. There was one doable girl, turned out she was an american on vacation with an attitude. Told me she was not working.

[Npaul1]

I was just wondering what is going on here with the casas and clubs.

I am coming this weekend and staying at the Platinum Castle.

[Terry U]

Terry U, Thanks for the info. You obviously know the lay of the land in Santiago. A few follow-up questions:

Is RD$2000 the price for toda la noche? Or are you talking about a few hours for that price? Also, where can you rent a cell phone for a week and what's a reasonable price?

Usually its for the night, but its up to the girl and what time you pick her up and whether if she is affiliated with the casas like Passions. The later, the better and with the new curfews, it will be hard for her to hustle back to the casas to pull an extra trick. I don't rent cell phones when I am down there, you should just use your current cell phone, go to the Orange shop and get a pre-paid sim card for your phone, its quick, cheap(RD$350-locked phones) and easy. Once activated, you just buy RD$100, RD$200, etc.. pesos cards and your connected.

Do you have any addresses for these places? I know the taxistas will know, but it helps to know, even the neighborhood, for planning purposes.

BiU Pub - close to the Monument and under Hollywood Cinema, right off of Duarte highway. Very Big Disco like Ambis(RIP)
Montezuma - Across the street from the Monument right next to Kukuramakara (sp?) on the corner, can't miss it.
Monte Bar - Las Colinas, Santiago, on 27 de febrero (it's in between Kelvin's Car Wash & Patron Burger, plus its directly behind Rancho Tipico)
One Way - On the corner of Las Carreras & Tolentino(three blocks from the Monument)

Plaza International has been mentioned to me. Again, can you provide cross streets or at least the neighborhood name? Also, do you have the name of any recommended bars in the university area?

I believe it's on Estrella Sadhalla(?) don't hold me to it, but its a huge mall with a movie theater, food court, and other mall stuff. Plus, they should have just completed the Las Colinas Mall, which is large.

Plus, I would like to add if you go to the Casinos, like the Matum, alot of action with Pros and Semi-Pros. Matum is down the block from the Monument, can't miss it, they have a huge rotating sign.

Have fun

[Viajero Guapo]

Terry U, Thanks for the info. You obviously know the lay of the land in Santiago. A few follow-up questions:

Car Washes - ... Girls usually goes for about $2000 more or less, in regards to the girls, if they like you, and how you can negotiate. ... if you have a cell phone, you can arrange something later.

Is RD$2000 the price for toda la noche? Or are you talking about a few hours for that price? Also, where can you rent a cell phone for a week and what's a reasonable price?

Bars and Clubs - Biu Pub, baja, Montezumas, Monte Bar. Also, One Way Bar, which is off Las Carreras towards the Monument

Do you have any addresses for these places? I know the taxistas will know, but it helps to know, even the neighborhood, for planning purposes.

Beeper Chicas - local hot university girls who's waiting for your phone call, spanish language is a must, many hang out with their girlfriends in the Mall (Plaza International) or the local bars around PUCMM and UTESA. Technically, any phone number you get will be your eventual beeper chica, including the chicas in car washes and casas who make a little extra on the side. Go to One Way Bar or the other jumping bars around the monument, befriend one of the workers and he'll point them out to you.

Plaza International has been mentioned to me. Again, can you provide cross streets or at least the neighborhood name? Also, do you have the name of any recommended bars in the university area?

[Terry U]

For the experienced chica chasers who know Santiago well, I have questions concerning the less-discussed avenues for scoring with them.

Car Washes - These have been discussed to some extent, but not a lot of detail has been provided. The ones most frequently mentioned are Gomez Diaz, Kelvin's and Korona. Which of these is best? What are the going prices? What is the best time to go so as to avoid a long wait for leaving with a selected chica?

Bars and Clubs - Which Santiago venues offer the best possibilities for leaving with a hottie ... whether she's P4P or a non-pro? Specific club names and even best nights of the week would be helpful.

Beeper Chicas - Infrequently mentioned, this slice of the Santiago P4P market lies largely below the radar. Does anybody have contacts, leads or even general info for tapping into this market?

Thanks for the help.

Car Washes - Gomez Diaz has the best talent amongst the car washes, you will notice that many chicas will start off at Gomez and when Gomez closes around 11 or 12, they move on to Passions, which is the best out of the three casas and the largest. Kelvin's is more suited for the locals in Las Colinas and the quality is ok but not as good as Gomez, but you can dance there, no bailando en Gomez Diaz. A good thing about Kelvin's is that your an ear shot from regular hangout spots, (Rancho Tipico, Rancho Merengue, Patron Burger, etc.) Girls usually goes for about $2000 more or less, in regards to the girls, if they like you, and how you can negotiate. The best time is near closing, also if you have a cell phone, you can arrange something later.

Bars and Clubs - If you have game and can speak spanish any of the major discos and lounges like Biu Pub, baja, Montezumas, Monte Bar. Also, One Way Bar, which is off Las Carreras towards the Monument is always packed. Since you are not a local, it may be hard to know who is who.

Beeper Chicas - local hot university girls who's waiting for your phone call, spanish language is a must, many hang out with their girlfriends in the Mall (Plaza International) or the local bars around PUCMM and UTESA. Technically, any phone number you get will be your eventual beeper chica, including the chicas in car washes and casas who make a little extra on the side. Go to One Way Bar or the other jumping bars around the monument, befriend one of the workers and he'll point them out to you.

Good Luck

[Viajero Guapo]

For the experienced chica chasers who know Santiago well, I have questions concerning the less-discussed avenues for scoring with them.

Car Washes - These have been discussed to some extent, but not a lot of detail has been provided. The ones most frequently mentioned are Gomez Diaz, Kelvin's and Korona. Which of these is best? What are the going prices? What is the best time to go so as to avoid a long wait for leaving with a selected chica?

Bars and Clubs - Which Santiago venues offer the best possibilities for leaving with a hottie ... whether she's P4P or a non-pro? Specific club names and even best nights of the week would be helpful.

Beeper Chicas - Infrequently mentioned, this slice of the Santiago P4P market lies largely below the radar. Does anybody have contacts, leads or even general info for tapping into this market?

Thanks for the help.

[Terry U]

Thanks for the update on the casas. Are these places adhering to the same early closing hours as the rest of Santiago? Did these places actually close at midnight on weeknights? Are there any action spots after closing hours?

Does the long-term (all night) pricing you quoted (3000 average, 2000-2500 achievable with some Spanish & negotiating skills) apply to all 3 of these clubs or did it differ among them? Is there a salida (takeout fee) paid to the clubs and was it included in the prices you quoted. If extra, how much more?

Any special dos and don'ts at these places?

Thanks in advance for your follow-up response.

VG

Yes, all of the casas are adhering to the same early closing hours as the rest of the clubs in Santiago, midnight (Sun-Thu) & 2am (Fri-Sat)

The prices of 3000RD is generally the asking for all three clubs, it can go as high as $4000 for newbies who don't know any better.

The salida is included in the 3000RD asking price, the owners get a cut from the girls.

Do's and Don'ts, try not to buy girls alot of drinks when you're there, only buy for girls you're interested in taking home or out back in the cabanas. Do attend some of the carwashes before hand and try hooking up with them there, many of these girls work in the clubs after they leave the carwash, the asking price will be cheaper.

[Viajero Guapo]

Thanks for the update on the casas. Are these places adhering to the same early closing hours as the rest of Santiago? Did these places actually close at midnight on weeknights? Are there any action spots after closing hours?

Does the long-term (all night) pricing you quoted (3000 average, 2000-2500 achievable with some Spanish & negotiating skills) apply to all 3 of these clubs or did it differ among them? Is there a salida (takeout fee) paid to the clubs and was it included in the prices you quoted. If extra, how much more?

Any special dos and don'ts at these places?

Thanks in advance for your follow-up response.

VG

Casa Blanca. Located on the main highway between Santo Domingo and Puerto Plata, Casa Blanca was an interesting destination. Some fine chicas and some horiffic ones. However, had the best night of the trip here on Friday night when they had a free nude review. Check the chicas skills and body out before you get home! A fantastic time about 40 chicas every night I was there.

Illusions. For some reason this was my favorite spot although I would say that Casa Blanca was almost as good some nights we were there. Some hot chicas just down the block from Casa Blanca. Looks like Passions has a bar in the back left but also has an outside area if you want to get out into the hot air or grab a smoke. A little more high pressure and poorly lit than Casa Blanca with about the same number of women the time I was there.

Passions. A disco type atmosphere lots of locals and some hot but slightly high pressure chicas. Not lit well so it was a little hard to see the tallent. About 40 when I was there but the area smelled like shit. My least favorite of the three, but the women were fine so it is worth a look.

[Ender]

some things expected, others not. let me start my description of the castle by stating that the person who is going to make it or break this place is the main owner/operator. that being said drexel (those of you who remember the movie true romance will understand the reference)puts the im in pimp. he is one of the most personable guys i have met, and truely believes in what he is trying to create. he also has a teriffic business mind. a dr. jekyl / mr. hyde? yes, in every sence of the word.

what is the platinum castle? very much as described, the platinum castle is a bed & breakfast style destination for mongers. ever wanted to know what it is like to be a well heeled foreigner in a city of angels? your experience at the castle will give you exact insight of what it is like to live in santiago, both positive and negative. you will experience young sweet women who love to hang and party, you will experience power outages on a daily basis. (drexel has a battery backup system in the house). it is an experience of staying with a friend in country and not having to worry about anything. hang out during the day or go your own way, eat on site or eat where you want. have a guide for a day or find the ways yourself. watch sunday night football with the guys or catch up on some work using the high speed wireless internet.

the current location of the platinum castle is a good one, but the house itself is not up to par with the idea that drexel is trying to create. the three greatest lacking features of the house are that there is no hot water, no air conditioning and no pool. the things that have been done right, the place is spotless with great maids, televisions in every room and a huge sony in the livingroom, cheap international calls and high speed wireless through the house.

while i was there i had the opportunity to see the most likely future destination of the platinum castle. this will most likely be complete in 30-60 days from now. let me say that drexel knows what is needed and this new location will blow your mind. secure parking for 10 cars, huge pool and outdoor jacuzzi, outdoor dance/bar area, central air, hot water and a huge master suite. this move will make the castle the perfect destination and truely a worldclass option for mongers regardless of destination. it's just a matter of getting the place ready and going through the legal work, which in santiago is one giant pain in the ass. so i can say with confidence that with a new "castle", the platinum castle will be the only destination in santiago. members on this board are more experienced, for those that are, drexel will provide barebones packages to those that would like them. for those newbies, you'll have a great time with your stay and with the services provided.

lets discuss cost.. $75 per day for the room is reasonable considering that you would spend between $50-$100 on a hotel. i do not know of a hotel with wifi in santiago so that alone was worth the price of the room. with the new location you will have an almost private vila in the heart of santaigo, with a huge pool and a great atmosphere. in summary, the cost of the room is not an issue at all. i believe that an additional $60 would be for a driver which is a fairly standard rate and reasonable especially since the driver speaks very good english. i did not take that option and drove myself, the choice is yours but i would suggest a gps if you are not familiar with santiago. i believe it is $50 / day for meals/drinks again, you will have to ask drexel about this because i did not go this route but considering that i consumed 75 beers in 6 days it might have been a better option. which brings us to the last point

chicas. i'm a particular guy that has been nearly everywhere mongering. the chicas of santiago are far better looking than their counterparts in puerto plata and sosua. that said, the pros want more money than their counterparts in other areas. 3000 per night is the average going rate. some are being quoted higher, some lower. i think you could haggle down to 2000 if you speak some spanish which i do. you should talk with drexel about what you are looking for, he has a stable of about 100 chicas whom he can call, possibly more although much to my dissapointment, he keeps the best 20 or so for himself! point being that i did not discuss my tastes with him prior to arriving in santiago. thus my tight schedule and certain girls being unavailable made trips to the local tallent sources a frequent and fun diversion. he does not make any money off of the chicas so if you get them on your own or through him it's all about your powers of closing the deal or letting him do it. drink your beers at the castle because they are new york prices when you go to the clubs.

casa blanca. located on the main highway between santo domingo and puerto plata, casa blanca was an interesting destination. some fine chicas and some horiffic ones. however, had the best night of the trip here on friday night when they had a free nude review. check the chicas skills and body out before you get home! a fantastic time about 40 chicas every night i was there.

illusions. for some reason this was my favorite spot although i would say that casa blanca was almost as good some nights we were there. some hot chicas just down the block from casa blanca. looks like passions has a bar in the back left but also has an outside area if you want to get out into the hot air or grab a smoke. a little more high pressure and poorly lit than casa blanca with about the same number of women the time i was there.

passions. a disco type atmosphere lots of locals and some hot but slightly high pressure chicas. not lit well so it was a little hard to see the tallent. about 40 when i was there but the area smelled like shit. my least favorite of the three, but the women were fine so it is worth a look.

in summary, as it stands now the castle and management are on the right road to a sure thing in santiago. are they there, no will they be there? most likely. once the new place is set in place, i think this will be the perfect destination for any hungry monger. drexel can start to focus his efforts less on building a business and more on running one. more research into semipro chicas etc. etc. this place will succeed in no small part to drexel who will provide you with top notch customer service. he will try hard to make you happy, just let him know what you want.


now, in response to your question if the new 12am closing time is having any effect on the business? it is most likely hurting the clubs, but with the chicas leaving earlier that means you can steal them for their off hours rates and most likely get better deals than before. average chica wants 3000 or that is what they told me, depending on the girl i had no problem getting them down to 2500 and some to 2000. i had a great time at casa blanca and saturdays and fridays with the free show were the most fun of any club i went to. hope the info helps.

ender

[Viajero Guapo]

Does anybody have any updates from Santiago? Ender, did you ever get to TPC and, if so, what's your assessment. Do you have contact info (e-mail and phone number) for the owner who's been posting on this board?

What's going on with the clubs? The early closing hours seem to be having an impact as reportedly Ambis I has closed for good.

[Looking555]

If you leave after the 19th in September you can get from JFK to Santiago for $99 each way. With taxes I got the trip for $315! With the fuel surcharges these days that's one hell of a deal. FYI

Ender

I have the same deal in October.

In an earlier post you asked about getting to Santo Domingo from STI.

I was in the DR for New Year's Eve 2005 for the first time. Flew into STI on JetBlue, took CaribeTours bus to Santo Domingo and back for the return flight. No problem at all. Since the inbound flight arrived STI at 3:00am I pre-arranged p/u at airport and VERY cheap hotel in Santiago for remainder of night - did not want to wander around strange airport or city or country first visit.

I will do same this trip, except for the cheap hotel.

I am reasonably fluent in Spanish, 4 yrs recently at college level plus some day to day conversations.

[Ender]

Those of you that know me from this board or TSM (does anyone remember TSM?) will know that the thing I hate most is punters paying too much for tang and spoiling it for the rest of us. In my opinion why travel anywhere if it is not at least 1/5 the cost of what you get in the states. This being said I am returning to the DR for business which brings me into Santiago. When I was in Puerto Plata I visited Blackbeards for 2 days but spent the rest of the time at the Palace in Sosua. As reported (see PP section) I thought they did Blackbeard's well and if you want a safe and clean place where you don't have to do any work, I thought it was done well. Difference here with The Platinum Castle (TPC) is that the owner is younger, less experienced and has less cash on hand. This does not mean that it's not worth a try. I do find the prices about $100 more than they should be per day, but we will see. So I'm going to take one for the team and see what it has to offer. I don't think he should have posted here till complete with construction, but that may simply be because of his limited knowlege of the board and business experience. I spoke with him on the phone and he seems like he really wants to please the customer. He's also taken some well deserved knocks with some grace, so we'll see what it's all about. I will be there on Sep 20th and heading to SD so if any newbies want to tag along PM me and I'll see what's up. I'll also be doing the Casa thing and hit a few carwashes, patrol the barrios for non-pro action etc. etc.

Ender

[Ender]

If you leave after the 19th in September you can get from JFK to Santiago for $99 each way. With taxes I got the trip for $315! With the fuel surcharges these days that's one hell of a deal. FYI

Ender

[Trader Ed]

Why would anyone want to go to Platinum Castle and pay $750 to $1500 for bigscreen tv, xbox, and to get laid, when you can get girls yourself for much less, and watch tv and play video games anywhere there, and have that money in your pocket? don't make any sense to me, but I guess theres alot of people out there that enjoy getting ripped off.

You can't tell me where to go watch tv in DR in answer to your question because you are getting all those things and if you stay in a nice house in Sosua and where is the remote when you want to watch no go down to the german bar and watch football great deal rubble.