Montego Bay

[Starved]

I have stayed at the Hi Sunspree several times for business many Jamaican girls stay at this property for vacation? Or biz both times I tried, I was able to hook up with pro's who were staying at the resort, both times I paid 30 for pro half and half service.

Kind of fun as I got to do 1 in front of the other, both times

And the bar maid under the sailboat lobby bar offered but not on the property, wasnt into a risky trip to the slums for some kitty

Here was my hint, both times I scored the girls were in a pair they were all over the property, probably gacked and as I was scooping them 1 asked me if I wanted to buy weed which I used as the icebreaker(I don't smoke), got to their room and once inside I asked if they knew any ladies that might be hog hunting 25 min later I was wiping up.

Not only is it possible there, I think they rent a room there for the specific reason of dealing smoke and tending to male tourists yes I know its tough approaching them wondering if your radar is working well but as frequent visitors to Jamaica know Kingston girls are loud, want to party and are very difficult to confuse with 2 girls from the Us

I'm going back in a few weeks for work with co-workers but unsure if I'll be able to monger this trip. Hope so.

[PogoStick]

Sorry, on my last post, I meant to say "all the hotels that I have stayed at" use wrist bands, not all the hotels in Jamaica.

Also, I think I got the hotels mixed up, as far as, who uses the elevator. Its been a long time since I have stayed at those hotels, so on my next trip, I can report which one it is.

The El Greco is the one with the elevator. Gloustershire has been closed for a few years. It was bought by the company that owns the Sunset Beach Resort. It was supposed to be remodeled and open more than a year ago...but it is Jamaica. Soon come...but now looking like no come.

I'll be in Mobay and Ochi in a few weeks. If anyone is around, hit me up.

pogo

[Thaijuan14]

Speaking of all inclusive hotels, F&S reminded me of an experience at an all inclusive hotel.

One year , I was staying at the Wex and my sister just happened to go a couple of days after me. She stayed at the Holiday Inn Sunspree, an all inclusive. She stayed there, because she is lazy to find food.

Well, my mother lives in Trelawny and my sister was hosting her. I decided to stay one night (even though I already paid for my hotel), it was just more convenient because of how far apart these two hotels are.

I decided to pay for my one night with my credit card, so as to keep more cash on hand. I don't like using a credit card anywhere,especially in a foreign country.

I found out from my bank when I got home, that someone was trying to charge something (twice) to my account after I had used it to get a room. They rejected it. I was lucky, I had switched to Bank of America from a local bank not too long ago.

BofA keeps a watch on your card 24/7 because they are such a large corporation, whereas, my local bank would have been closed during the transaction and they would have okayed it. I would have had to go through the hassle of disputing the charges.

At Holiday Inn, they give you one color wristband if you paid to eat all you want and another if you want to pay as you go. It was kind of cool to walk around and say I want that and I want to drink that and not have to dig into your pocket every time.

I did not think it was a good place to monger at all. There were loads of women tourist, but you were going to have to be a smooth person to get anyone.

I have an advantage over other mongers from the states, besides being good looking my mother lives there. Once I say that to these women, panties start melting. I am especially dangerous when I walk around with her. They have such respect for their elders (and a lot of admiration for me taking care of her).

[Fun And Sun]

I just wanted to add some things about Mobay. Its best to always use Ja dollars when doing any business. If someone tells you something is x amount in US dollars, tell them you only have Ja dollars and get the atmosphere back to life on the island, don't give that foreigner feel by using foreigner dollars.

All the hotels use wrist bands as a control device. This is good, because you would not want just anyone walking off the street and roaming around your hotel looking for opportunity.

Last year when I stayed at the Wex, the lady just handed me the wrist band to put on myself. That was cool, because I didn't put it on, I made a simple tie to hold it on until I passed the front desk.

You don't want to be walking around the island with these florescent wrist bands, looking like a tourist a mile away. I think this time I go, I will look at the receptionist with my big brown eyes and ask her if I can put it on myself. Note: hide the band under your watch.

Sorry, on my last post, I meant to say "all the hotels that I have stayed at" use wrist bands, not all the hotels in Jamaica.

Juan,

You are spot on about not wearing one of the wrist bands that some of the hotels try to get you to wear. It not only marks you as a tourist, it also let's everyone know which hotel you are staying at, and these wrist bands are the hallmark of the second dumbest category of tourist, the ones that stay in all inclusives (the wrist band is what gets you your free drinks and food at the all inclusives). The dumbest tourists are the cruise ship ones. (Maybe naive is a better word than dumb, come to think of it.)

If you are staying at a hotel that tries to make you wear a wrist band even if you are not on an all inclusive package then flatly refuse. Carry it in your pocket instead.

Note: If you have a local GF and you are checking her into your hotel for a few days, they will make her wear a wrist band (so that you can't switch girls without paying any potential extra person charges) and getting them to budge on this is impossible in my experience.

[Thaijuan14]

Sorry, on my last post, I meant to say "all the hotels that I have stayed at" use wrist bands, not all the hotels in Jamaica.

Also, I think I got the hotels mixed up, as far as, who uses the elevator. Its been a long time since I have stayed at those hotels, so on my next trip, I can report which one it is.

[Thaijuan14]

I just wanted to add some things about Mobay. Its best to always use Ja dollars when doing any business. If someone tells you something is x amount in US dollars, tell them you only have Ja dollars and get the atmosphere back to life on the island, don't give that foreigner feel by using foreigner dollars.

All the hotels use wrist bands as a control device. This is good, because you would not want just anyone walking off the street and roaming around your hotel looking for opportunity.

Last year when I stayed at the Wex, the lady just handed me the wrist band to put on myself. That was cool, because I didn't put it on, I made a simple tie to hold it on until I passed the front desk.

You don't want to be walking around the island with these florescent wrist bands, looking like a tourist a mile away. I think this time I go, I will look at the receptionist with my big brown eyes and ask her if I can put it on myself. Note: hide the band under your watch.

As said in other reports, Jamaica can be dangerous but mainly in the Kingston area. I think the tourist police do a good job making you feel at home-on the hip strip area.

I go to downtown and hang out with the greatest of ease. Its bustling with hot Jamaican women and girl watching in of itself is fun. I do most of my mongering right on the strip. I have only been to Jamaica one time that M'ville was happening and that was in April during spring break.

I have stayed at the Glou and El Grecko. I like the Wex because of its location-hop, skip and jump to moods, pork pit, M'ville and the Cliff. I had a room at the Grecko where the room was right above the sidewalk. It was cool sitting outside during the day, people watching, but night was bad because of traffic noise, you know how Ja's like honking their horns!

The Glou was good for breakfast and a free pass to Dr Caves beach. The downside was the very hot (and slow) elevator you had to take to get down to the strip. Its a very old elevator that actually belongs to a condo, but they have an agreement to allow Glou guests to use it.

The biggest factor of the Wex over the Grecko and Glou is the a/c unit. The Wex has a modern, state of the art, digital unit that is very quiet. The other two hotels (when I stayed there at least) had very noisy a/c units. The fan blade kept hitting something, thus giving me a headache by the morning. If U-turned it off, you would burn up in minutes.

The units didn't have a thermostat, so it was freezing cold or nothing. They are ideal during the day, but pretty bad when you want to sleep.

I didn't have any problems when I took two women to my room, but I did have to pay for both of them! Since I didn't know that I was going to pick up some women when I left, I made the women stay out in the hallway while I locked up my money (and took a shower). At first, they weren't happy saying they are not like that. I work in a casino in vegas, TRUST NO ONE! Don't be afraid to offend in the name of protecting your valuables. Don't worry, by the end of the night, I had satisfied both of them and they totally got over it.

[Fun And Sun]

Have posted about Moods before, but want to write a detailed report on it since it is by far the best go-go in Mo'bay.

Moods is the biggest go-go in Mo'bay and is a really nice club, but not a good as Scrub-a-dub in Negril. It is located pretty close to the end of the Hip Strip, right next to Wexford on the opposite side from Margaritaville. There is a sign painted on the green building that says Extatic, but everyone still calls it Moods, most locals won't even know what you mean if you mention Extatic. See the attached photo (sorry for the quality, but it was raining, which shows the green building) for location.

When approaching Moods you will be approached by a virtual army of hustlers offering you ganja, girls, and so on. Keep walking to the entrance, and don't let anyone walk up with you, just say that you are going to Moods and that you can find it yourself.

Entrance is 300 Jamaican. On the board it says that tourist entrance is 5 USD (i.e. 400 Jamaican) don't pay that price, just hand the guy at the door 300 Jamaican and leave it at that.

There is pretty much something happening at Moods every night of the week. The girls are supposed to clock in for work at around 7:30 and the club is supposed to open at 9:30, but opening time is flexible and there generally is no point to show up before 11:30 to midnight.

I would say that Moods has about twenty girls. Most of them are pretty tall with nice and thick bodies, not fat, but with nice big asses and thick built. There are also a couple of girls that are really tall, and a few short and skinny ones to make up the balance. At any time there are about four or five girls on stage doing some really sexy dancing, showing of their pussies, fondling each other. The other girls will roam around the club or hang out in the changing room.

What I like about Moods is that you don't really get hassled in there. Sure, girls will approach you and strike up a conversation, but they aren't pushy about it. Any dancer is available for take out, but much easier to get their numbers. Management has no problem with this, you can even ask the (female) bartender for a pen!

Semi-pro girls come to Moods, particularly on Saturday nights when there is a freaky show (a freaky show is when a girl goes on stage and fucks and sucks). Supposed to start at around 2-3AM, usually doesn't happen until 4AM. A few street walkers also invest the 300 Jamaican on Saturday nights to come in there to try to drum up business.

The crowd is mostly Jamaican males, with a few tourists in the mix. Music is all Jamaican, porno movies play on little TVs hanging from the ceiling.

There are several rooms available at Moods if you want to do one of the strippers. Management will start their bidding at USD 50 for a room, but fight them down to around USD 20. Don't accept them giving you the little room with only a chair and a curtain that is next to the girl's dressing room, demand a room with a bed in it.

In terms of lay out, it is a pretty large club with a big stage in the middle of the room along one of the walls. Along the opposite wall there is a bar, and another bar alongside one of the side walls, and there are a few places to sit and loads of places to stand. Don't sit at the bar unless you are shy and want to be approached by the dancers. Another reason not to sit at the bar is that as the club fills up your view will be blocked. Grab a table or one of the wooden sofas close to the stage instead.

If you sit right next to the stage the girls will come close and perform a little show just for you, they might also give you a nice sexy lap dance, let you fondle them, let you finger them, etc. You should tip them for this, but make them work a little until you give them 100 Jamaican.

Some more musings:

There are a couple of pretty nice bars next to Moods where you can hang out and have a drink.

There are also loads of street walkers that gather in front of Moods from the stairs and up by the bars.

[Fun And Sun]

You can pretty much get a lot of free play unless you are ugly or just too shy to talk, and that is what p4p is for.

Guys, just go, do things (and say things) that you would probably never do at home. Nobody knows you and you will be gone. I think a woman likes

An aggressive (in the way of speaking up) kind of man.

These two quotes from you sum up how to approach the non-pros really well Juan. You gotta take the first step with them, but whereas most girls back home would walk away if you approached her and asked her some silly pick up line the girls in Mo'Bay will actually smile and respond to you.

[Thaijuan14]

I usually go to Mobay every year, especially at sumfest time.

I have an old post (and name) from 8/07 if you want to read. Same name as this one, but without the number 14.

This is my observation of the women on the island.

You can pretty much get a lot of free play unless you are ugly or just too shy to talk, and that is what p4p is for.

One thing I learned is that people like people from other places. One time I tried to talk to these two beautiful women from the states in the buffet line and they only wanted to meet the cook, because he was "exotic" to them.

Same with the Jamaican women. Now the women take a little more patience. The thing is to talk to them (for hours), make them feel relaxedabout you.

Trust me, if they give you the time, they will eventually give you the pussy.

I have gone right up to a female at reception and ASKED if she has any friends that would spend some time with me, since I don't know my way around. She was so shocked (that I wanted to talk to a Jamaican woman) and very happy. They are under the impression that the black men want white women. (well, I do, but I want anyone who is cute).

One of my favorite hangouts is the Coral Cliffs. I asked a girl there to introduce me to someone who is single and she did it easily. Just act friendly,

Not desperate for someone, don't get upset if she acts like she doesn't know anyone-she does, just keep working on her with small talk.

I did go to rejuv as in my old report. I don't have a problem with p4p. Its a good backup if you strike out that day. Tomorrow is another day also.

Mongering p4p is like fishing to me. I go out to the lake for the day, if I didn't catch any fish, I just stop at the supermarket on my way home!

Last year, I was standing in front of M'ville and I saw this woman across the street at the Cliff who looked like Chaka Khan. I went over to hookup with

Her and found out she was a SW. She had big nips, which I love so I had to do her. As, we were walking to my hotel (the Wex) her friend walked up and

Asked if she could join-hell yeah.

I had to pay some damn chica fee. They call it a visitors fee or something. We had a good time, sorry, I don't remember the price but I know it was way cheaper than what I would pay here in Las Vegas.

Guys, just go, do things (and say things) that you would probably never do at home. Nobody knows you and you will be gone. I think a woman likes

An aggressive (in the way of speaking up) kind of man.

I will be going this December, I will write a report on my venture. I didn't go in July for the sumfest because I couldn't get a room at the Wexford, but maybe that was a good thing because the reviews said it was "fair" and it rained! I don't go to the concerts, I just like going during that time of the year because its busy with tourists.

[Fun And Sun]

If you are planning to stay in Mo'Bay for more than a few days, and if you are planning to have several girls rather than staying with the same girl for most/all of your trip then finding a good driver is absolutely key to make your trip as much fun as it can possibly be.

You need a reliable driver to:

1. Take you to places away from the Hip Strip since you will want to see more places than that if you are in town for more than a few days (for example, a tour of local go-gos at night, going around the countryside in the day time to check for girls)

2. Introduce you to girls. Once you have known him for two days, but don't ask him before then, you can also ask him to introduce you to girls from the countryside which is a good way to meet girls that are not on the pro/semi-pro scene that you can enjoy a few hours of fun with. (Remember that he will charge you for picking them up, and also charge them a commission for having set it up when he drives them home, but that is just the way it works.)

3. A good driver can also be a helpful ally in sourcing party supplies for you if you don't have your own ganja man yet.

4. If you want to go around and check out different places on the island it is much easier and convenient to go with a driver than try to join an organised tour.

You don't want a route taxi driver to be "your driver" since their cars are really uncomfortable.

Finding a good driver in Mo'Bay is not that hard. They all stand around the Hip Strip in the day time trying to find clients. Just walk around, talk to a few of them and see how you get along. Ask to see their cars, you don't want one with an old uncomfortable car that is likely to break down, and that stinks of ganja, so find a driver with a nice, almost new car, that seems sober and cool.

Try to find a driver in his mid-30s, since the younger ones have a short term view and try to squeeze money out of you as much as they can, and the older ones are a bit boring and are not likely to know as many places and as many girls.

In terms of costs, having a driver take you around all night will cost you between USD 30-50. The lower end of the range if he hasn't done much driving but mostly waited, if he has driven you back and forth all night then it is on the higher end of the range.

For a driver to deliver a girl to you and take her home afterwards should cost you USD 10-30, invariably he will claim that he had to go really far to find her, but take these claims with a pinch of salt...

If you want to check out some of the many sights around the island, then make a little plan of what you want to see. One thing or many things, and then negotiate a rate with the driver. It costs USD 150 to go from Mo'Bay to Kingston and back, which is pretty much going all the way across the island, so that is the maximum you should pay to be driven around all day, and that includes the price of gas. Going to Ocho Rios should cost around USD 50. Going to Nine Mile should cost around USD 100. Going to Negril should cost you around USD 50. Spending the whole day driving around to lots of sights should cost you around USD 150.

If you are going sightseeing, the driver will come get you on the agreed time, this is actually one of the few things that happens on time in Jamaica. If you are going for a longer tour then he will need to get some gas first, this is normal since they never have that much gas in their cars, but this is deducted from the price you have negotiated, it is not an extra. Pay the driver the remainder of the agreed fare when you get back. Invariably they will complain a bit when you are on your way back that it took a long time to drive around and you should pay a bit more, or give a tip, but don't cave in.

If a driver takes you to one or several go-gos, then he will come in with you, he wants to watch the girls too... However, remember that the driver gets to come in for free at a Jamaican go-go, don't be suckered into paying an extra entrance for him. Ask him if he wants a beer when you get one for yourself, and if you spend a long time there then get him a second beer, be cool but not a pushover when it comes to this. Don't pay for his lapdances or similar, if he wants that then he should pay for that himself.

Don't worry about making your driver wait for you while you are at a tourist site, massage parlour, or whatever. They expect to do this and there is no need to rush anything since the driver is waiting for you.

Generally be nice and cool to your driver, but don't be a pushover. You want to use the same driver for your whole trip since then you can trust him more, and he is more likely to introduce you to the best girls he knows and show you cool places around town.

A good driver will look out for you, and will alert you if a dangerous situation is developing, and will also try to intervene if you get yourself into trouble, but you can't expect them to catch a bullet for you. However, see my post about crime and safety why Jamaica is actually a lot safer (for tourists) than its reputation and unless you do something stupid and go looking for trouble, it is rare that trouble comes looking for you.

[Fun And Sun]

Finding non-pros and quarter-pros in Mo'Bay is easy. In terms of quarter-pros, a lot of the waitresses on the Hip Strip side line, or rather supplement their income, by fucking tourists, so this is worth a try. However, IMHO it is not a good idea to have a girl friend that works on the Hip Strip for two reasons:

1. If you want to do other girls, she will find out. Her work finishes at around 11:30 at night which will interfere with you playing around at night, and also she will find out what you have been up in the day timeto while she was working. Mo'Bay is not that big of a town...

2. If you don't want to do other girls, do you really want to have a "girlfriend" that fucks other tourists...

So, if you want a non-pro Jamaican girlfriend, then head to down town Mo'Bay, whether you are planning to do other girls or not...

When you first get down town, you will feel that it is very crowded and that it is difficult to get a girl's attention. Don't despair, walk around for a while and then you will find some good prospects.

You will not believe this, but most girls are happy to talk to you if you approach them smoothly on the street. It is not like back home, they are more than happy to talk to you, and most of them will give you their cell phone numbers no problem. Just don't ask sleazy, start a conversation, get the girl's number, and then move on.

Go into stores, look around a bit, go to the shopping mall, and so on. Smile at lots of girls, even if she is in a group of girls, and if she smiles back then try to strike up a conversation. Act cool, ask for directions, ask for the time, or whatever, then tell her that you think that she is pretty and ask for her number. Or even, give her your number, unlike girls in the US/Europe they will actually call you if you give them your number. (As a matter of fact, you will probably find five missed calls from her when you look at your phone after an hour.)

I cannot emphasize enough how easy it is to find a non-pro girl in down town Mo'Bay, no matter what your looks are... Also, this applies even if you are black or if you are white. If you are, say, a black American male then it is still obvious to a Jamaican that you are not from Jamaica from how you walk, talk, dress, etc.

Be a bit careful though. The pros and semipros are also in downtown Mo'Bay when they are not working, and you don't want your hunt for a non-pro to result in you getting together with a pro. How to guard against this, find girls where they are working (stores, restaurants, and so on).

[Fun And Sun]

In terms of what is safe in Mo'Bay:

You can stroll up and down the Hip Strip to your hearts content at pretty much any time of day and night without worries. However, after around 2-3AM the risk of getting pick pocketed by a street walker goes up massively, so if you are staying far down the Hip Strip and are coming out of, say, Moods, it might be worthwhile to pay the 300 jamaican for a charter taxi back to your place. I am using the term Hip Strip a bit loosely here, denoting the entire area from Toby's all the way up to Pork Pit and the bars beyond Pork Pit.

Downtown Mo'Bay is safe in the day time, at least most of it is as long as you stay in areas where there are lots of people. Pay attention to your surroundings, walk confidently at the same pace that the Jamicans walk (that is, slowly) and you will be fine. Once you are a bit more experienced you can hang out in a lot of areas downtown at night too, but I don't want any of my posts resulting in a green horn getting himself into a dangerous situation so am not going to write anything more about that. If you do a go-go tour/bar tour of down town at night then have a taxi driver take you. You have to cross areas that are not safe walking otherwise, plus you can go to a lot more places that way.

[Fun And Sun]

Just returned from Mo-Bay after not making the scene for several years. One big difference between then and now is the quality of reports on ISG. Back then only Ford was a dependable source of information. These days "Fun and Sun" has the rites and rituals "nailed".

Before leaving the US I was reassured by Hunteweed's advice to concentrate on the local "non-professionals". That's what I did five or six years ago and it worked out great. Based on his advice and some good ideas from "Fun and Sun" I was holding hands with a really cute "local" about three hours after the plane landed.

We spent the next four nights together, though the first did not include sex. By the second night, however, she was more than ready for anything I had in mind. That, of course, was the full menu.

The only point both "Hunteweed" and "Fun and Sun" do not make is my only reason for adding this report. For me at least, the sex you earn is almost always better than the sex you pay for. My only cost for this girlfriend was dinner and drinks, no different from a date you'd have in college.

Hi Billy Bob,

Welcome to the Board, and good to hear you had a fun trip to Jamaica, and I agree with you, the sex you earn is much better than P4P. Haven't written the section on non-pros yet (it will probably be four sections covering what I think are the four categories of girls there: pros, semi-pros, quarter-pros, and non-pros) so stay tuned.

Am also planning a section on the topic that is always controversial on every ISG thread: prices...

F & S

[Billy Bobs]

Just returned from Mo-Bay after not making the scene for several years. One big difference between then and now is the quality of reports on ISG. Back then only Ford was a dependable source of information. These days "Fun and Sun" has the rites and rituals "nailed".

Before leaving the US I was reassured by Hunteweed's advice to concentrate on the local "non-professionals". That's what I did five or six years ago and it worked out great. Based on his advice and some good ideas from "Fun and Sun" I was holding hands with a really cute "local" about three hours after the plane landed.

We spent the next four nights together, though the first did not include sex. By the second night, however, she was more than ready for anything I had in mind. That, of course, was the full menu.

The only point both "Hunteweed" and "Fun and Sun" do not make is my only reason for adding this report. For me at least, the sex you earn is almost always better than the sex you pay for. My only cost for this girlfriend was dinner and drinks, no different from a date you'd have in college.

[Fun And Sun]

Thanks for all the detailed information.

When entering a new country it is always good to have a handle on the logistics and mongering terrain - gives you a level of confidence.

I hope to be back to MoBay again this December, but will be stuck at Rose Hall Resort, which is very difficult situation for mongering. May import a young lovely to join me for the week or if not will get the doorman to bring in some talent. Did not get downtown at all last time. Not much a sex paradise!

It was more a lack of opportunity. No prospects on site. I was advised that female staff could get fired if they "fratenized" with guests, even if they could be enticed - which was by no means clear. The place is isolated and there is no where nearby to cruise. No lobby girls, or girls hanging out on the beach. I guess you could probably bring in a semi-respectable girl from outside, but I never did get downtown to go shopping, so I don't know for certain. One night I asked the doorman or conceirge about getting girls and he was a bit evasive, but conceded that it might be possible - but then I went out with a mixed group for dinner and could not follow up. So not a good base for any kind of mongering - I was only there because of a conference on-site and had little choice.!

GT,

Good to hear you think the info is useful, Jamaica is a lot of fun but can take a while to figure out how it all works, so am hoping that once the guide is done it will help other mongerers find their feet quickly, because once you know how it all works then it's possible to have some really great experiences there. It is a sex paradise! What's particularly cool about Jamaica is that pretty much any woman can be had, not like in other destinations where you can only fish around amongst the pros and semi-pros...

Believe it or not, to be working as a maid or door man at a nice hotel is actually considered a pretty good job in Jamaica, and they're not keen on risking getting fired so if you set your mind on a cute little maid then you will need to get with her outside the hotel. For the same reason the receptionist might not be over helpful in setting things up for you either.

Looks like you already got one lead...

Another thing you can do is the following:

Make friends with the night receptionist (easy, give him a few bucks and talk to him a bit) so that he will be cool with you bringing a girl in.

Ask the security guard, or the receptionist, to recommend a driver to take you around at night. Make sure that this is not a driver that is attached to the hotel or he will not be that cool. Don't freak out if the driver that is friends with the receptionist/guard is not licensed, most of them aren't. Have the driver take you around to a local go go or two, maybe a bar or two, and see if you find something interesting. If not, then he will know the numbers of several girls that you can go see together and you can take one of them back to the hotel with you.

After this evening you can just call the driver and tell him to bring girls for you when you don't want to go out at night. If you get along well with the driver he will be able to find some real treasures for you.