Montego Bay

[Fun And Sun]

Are there any pan-Caribbean cell phone deals?
Like do I need to get a SIM card for Jamaica and a different one for Haiti in order to get decent local rates?

Actually, now that I think of it, the old spare cell phone I would use for this is a 5 year-old Samsung CDMA phone. Maybe it doesn't even use a SIM card? Is that possible? If not, how do I get it connected to a new service in Jamaica or elsewhere?

I saw some signs for cell phone deals covering multiple islands, but didn't look into it that much to be honest.

If you are taking an old phone, you need to get it unlocked or other sim cards will not work, and that is actually pretty expensive, like USD 40 or so. I think all phones use sim cards nowadays. Take the old phone with you, and if you can't get it to work then the cheapest phone in the store is something like 1,960 jamaican, i.e. USD 25.

[Gentleman Travel]

Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.

A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls...

There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2,000 jamaican.

Are there any pan-Caribbean cell phone deals?
Like do I need to get a SIM card for Jamaica and a different one for Haiti in order to get decent local rates?

Actually, now that I think of it, the old spare cell phone I would use for this is a 5 year-old Samsung CDMA phone. Maybe it doesn't even use a SIM card? Is that possible? If not, how do I get it connected to a new service in Jamaica or elsewhere?

[Fun And Sun]

Any experienced monger knows that a local cell phone is a must have accessory on a mongering trip longer than a few days, and particularly so in Jamaica since there is no day time scene and it is hard to meet hot girls on week day evenings sometimes as well too.

A cell phone is also a must have accessory if you want to try to get with a non-pro girl, or two non-pro girls...

There are two options to acquiring a local cell phone, bring an unlocked phone from home and buy a chip for 500 jamaican, or buy the cheapest local phone available which will cost you about 2,000 jamaican. You will need to show your passport to get the chip since that is jamaican law, so take your passport with you to the store or you will have to go back to your hotel and get it and stand in line again. Making cell phone calls and sending texts is very cheap in jamaica, so don't load your phone with more than 500 jamaican of credit for two weeks. Topping up is expensive, so do a big top up in the store when you get your phone/chip.

There are two digicell stores that I know of in Mo'Bay, one on the hip strip towards the end (close to Buccaneers/Jolly Rogers so on the opposite end from Margaritaville) and one in town. The one in town has a much better selection of phones, and going into town to get your phone/chip is a good way to go on your first venture into down town so my recommendation is to head there in the morning of your second day in Jamaica. To get to downtown digicell, either ask a taxi to take you there (for 300 jamaican) or take a route taxi, get of at taxi central, and walk straight down the street past the gas station and a bit further. The digicell store is on the left side of the street.

Having acquired your new cell phone, go have some lunch and as a challenge try to get the waitress' phone number. Then walk over to the local shopping mall, and flirt with girls that are hanging around, that work in stores etc. This is so much easier than you think if you do it with a smile, act nicely, etc. Say things like "I just got a new phone, do you mind if I try it out by ringing you?" Believe me, this will get you her number in eight out of ten cases. Then ask her what she is doing for dinner, ask her to have coffee with you, or something. Make it your mission not to return from downtown with your new phone until you have the number of five hotties!

Some more musings/tips on cell phones:

Don't lend your phone to girls or anyone else without watching carefully, since they will text themselves credit from your phone otherwise.

You can use your home cell phone on roaming too (US phones work in Jamaica) but this will be expensive, and girls and other mongerers will not want to call you since it's expensive.

Put your phone on silent. When jamaican girls call you and you don't pick up then they will phone five times at least which is annoying even if your phone is only on vibrate.

[Fun And Sun]

The place to go on Friday nights is Pier 1, pretty much everyone goes there on that night. Lots of providers, and also lots of semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros, civilians, and touristas. Some of the touristas are pretty hot...

To get in is 500 Jamaican, and there is no point to show up before midnight. In terms of location, it is located along the water front, and you get there through a bit of an industrial/warehouse area. It's not a good idea to try to walk there late at night since it is far and next to down town Mo'Bay, so take a taxi from the hip strip. This will be a bit costly at 300-400 jamaican since route taxis don't go there. To get back is more expensive. The drivers all collude and try for USD 20, USD 10, 1,000 jamaican type of prices. I think the best option is to call your regular driver, and pay him 1,000 jamaican to both take you there and to take you back after (this is too expensive, but avoids a lot of hassle). If you don't have a driver then negotiate something like with the driver that takes you there. Do not try to walk home when you leave since this is not safe, if your driver strands you outside Pier 1 by not showing up then just bite the bullet and pay the expensive price.

Due to the entrance fee, loads of not very good looking street girls and hustlers stand around outside. Just ignore them when you walk in, and when you come out don't let one of the hustlers walk you to the car since he will demand a tip for showing you where it is.

Pier 1 is fun. The set up is that you walk in and there is an open air area under a roof, with a large bar in the middle. There is a lot of space around the bar area where people stand around and talk as well as dance, and the music is mostly jamaican dancehall and not top 40 crap. Sadly a few all inclusives has started providing mini-bus services for their guests to Pier 1, so there is a growing number of lamester civilians there, but let's hope this place does not go down hill too fast because of that. The bartender to customer ratio is not sufficient, so it will take you a little while to get a drink. If you tip jamaican 50 each time you get a drink then this will get you served much faster the next time you come for a drink. At the end of the open area there is a pier, thus Pier 1, where people go to smoke ganja, and get away from the loud music. If you want to smoke then bring your own smoking supplies since it is expensive to get it on the pier.

Friday night at Pier 1 is a great night to gather phone numbers, so move around a bit and talk to lots of girls. Remember that all of them are not professionals, but they can still be had if you talk smoothly and be nice. I have spotted a few real stunners there, but the super hot providers will get snapped up quite quickly and come at a hefty (by jamaican standards) price. Avoid standing around the bar area unless you are shy and want the pros to approach you. The pros will approach discretely since being to blatant about it will get them kicked out of there and banned, what they do is that they come stand next to you and dance, try to make eye contact, and then if you seem interested then they come up and ask you for a light, a cigarette, or similar. The later it gets the more aggressive they get in their approach. If you are new to mongering, and don't know how to recognise the pros and semi-pros, they are the girls that look a bit bored, stand in a little group or by themselves, and are not approached by the jamaican men (who know that they are pros and thus no point in flirting with them).

On other nights they sometimes have little shows, karaoke and similar, which is nice if you want somewhere to take your local non-pro girl friend for a nice and relaxed evening. She will like this since that takes you both away from the mongering scene around the Hip Strip.

The food at Pier 1 is crap and expensive, so don't go there for dinner even though it is a restaurant on other nights.

[Fun And Sun]

To update on Wexford Hotel, this place is not nearly as girl friendly as it used to be. A lot of frowning when you bring in girls, sometimes a bit of arguing whether "visiting hours" are still going in the day time, a night receptionist that is a total dork (as proof of this, he wears sunglasses at night when he is at work). Extra person charge of USD 20 at night, sometimes outright refusal to bring in guests in the day time. Night receptionist will ignore that you have an extra guest and the extra guest charge for a bribe of JMD 1,000. This used to be a cool hotel, but after a renovation, which to me looks like all they did was to move the reception and paint a little bit they have gotten a lot less friendly to our hobby. Would not stay there again.

Gloucestershire was closed on my last two visits. Supposedly for refurbishment, but didn't look like any work was going on. A shame since this hotel is in an excellent location in the middle of the hip strip.

Toby's Resort was great though. Unlimited visitors in the day time at no charge, a courtesy tip to the security guards of 100 Jamaican for them to ignore that I walk around the building with the reception area when I am with a girl, that's all. If spotted by the receptionist, then all she makes you do is sign the girl in, but there is no charge in the day time for this. In the evenings there is an extra person charge of USD 20, but reception closes at 11pm (and nothing in Mo'Bay starts before midnight) so you can just work things out with security who are supposed to collect the extra person charge. (Don't want to post more than than comment in order not to get some people that were good to me in trouble, but PM me if you want more details on how to work around security.)

[Fun And Sun]

Massage Parlours aren't really my scene, even for day time play (much better and cheaper to have a girl come meet me at the beach, then take her to my hotel room). However, here is some information that will hopefully be useful for fellow sex adventurers:

Mo'Bay has loads of massage parlours in addition to what used to be called Relaxation and Rejuvenation Center and is now called something else. (This is the massage parlour that is located on Top Road, right next to the big Red Strip sign.) All drivers that stand around on the Hip Strip are very keen to take you there, for the reason that it pays them the highest commission (USD 10). This massage parlour is the most expensive one, both in terms of cost of going to the room with the girl at minimum USD 40, and the girls start their bidding at USD 150 for full service, which is ridiculous for Jamaica.

If a driver suggests to take you to that one, say that you don't like it, and they will start listing out other possibilities. Here are coordinates for one on the hip strip:

Starting out at Dr Cave Beach, facing away from the ocean, turn left. Walk past the Havana Lounge, and be on the look out for a sign for Montego Bay Institute of Technology. At this yellow building, turn right into the side street. (Politely ignore all the touts trying to get you to go to the nearby craft market.) Keep going until you are past the yellow building (about 25 yards) and you see a fence. Where there is a turn left through the fence, walk in there. To your left is a "restaurant" that is more like a shack and you can order food through the window and there is nowhere to sit, and to your right as you look straight ahead is a second Jamaican restaurant with a pool table outside. (This restaurant has good food for about 350 Jamaican, so it is cheaper and better to eat there than at the hip strip. I think this place is only open during the day time though.) Walk past the restaurant, and look out for a white door. This has a door bell that says emergency on it. Wonder what sort of emergency they have in mind... Ring the bell, wait for a few minutes, and you will be let in. Have a seat, look at the menu, wait for the girls to be introduced, and enjoy. Prices here are Jamaican 1,800 for the girl to go in the room with you (that is about USD 20) and you can have full service for about Jamaican 4,000 to 6,000. That is USD 50 to 75. Location is a bit worse than the place on Top Road, but service is better.

If you struggle to find it, ask someone. Give them Jamaican 100 to help you with this, but don't let them ring the door bell for you since then you will get stuck with the higher price menu to pay their commission.

There is one more massage parlour if you head towards the airport which I have not been to.

There is also a massage parlour on the third floor of an office building in town, but get a driver to take you since it's a bit difficult to find I think. There are also other massage parlours in Mo'Bay, but I think they are too pricey and not that much fun, so can't add to much on this scene.

[Fun And Sun]

Goldfingers is now closed since the owner got shot a while back. Some new management tried to keep it going, but didn't run it as well as the old owner used to. (He was a real cool guy that lived several years in London, and was sad to hear the news that he has passed away.)

For info on some clubs within walking distance of the Hip Strip, see my post further down this thread. Moods has a freaky show on Saturdays that is worth attending, but it starts late, around 4am.

There is also a go-go in Aquasol (yes, that is Aquasol beach) called Dreamz. They do a freaky show on Mondays, and it is an all you can drink deal for USD 30 or if you pay in Jamaican Dollars, 2,000. Their website, which is pretty useless, is www.mobayfreakyparties.com This was pretty worthwhile for a Monday night, they had four "freaks" (the girls that fuck each other and the customers) on stage, and the show started early with banana sucking, lesbian show, pussy eating contest, dick sucking contest, and finished around four with a free for all with all the girls and the guys that had come on stage. This was pretty worthwhile for a Monday evening when nothing much is happening elsewhere in Mo'Bay.

In town there are a number of small gogos that cater to locals, worth checking out even though most of the girls are a bit to thick for my taste.

There are also two gogos if you head towards the airport, one before you get to the airport, and one about a five minute drive past the airport. The girls at the second one are not shy... There are also several gogos if you take the road towards Negril within a few minutes drive from Mo'Bay.

In my view it is not worthwhile to take out a girl from a go go. You need to pay her barfine, and she has very high expectations for how much she will be paid to come with you at night. Similarly, the rooms at the gogos are pretty dirty, costly to rent, and the girls have high expectations for how much you will pay them to come in the room with you. Much better to get their cell phone numbers and call them the next day. They are all happy to come to your hotel for a few hours of fun for a pretty good price.

Also, at Moods in particular, and at lots of other gogos as well, there are actually quite a few girls hanging out. A lot of these girls are available to go with you if you want to, but they don't work for the gogo so there is no barfine, and they vary from pretty hardened pros, to semi-pros, to quarter pros... Be a bit careful though, some of them are non-pros (which shouldn't stop you from hitting on them) and some of them are there with their boyfriends, so approach with a bit of care. Make eye contact, smile, if she smiles back then walk over and talk to her.

[PogoStick]

Has anyone tried this hotel?

GF?

It's not really near the action. Try the Caribic House, right on the strip and in your price range. You can search the forum and I think you can find the phone number. No website that I know of.


http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...y_Jamaica.html

pogo

[Wrongedswed]

Has anyone tried this hotel?

GF?

[Wrongedswed]

We would like some suggestions on inexpensive hotels(40-60/nite possible?) that is near the action.

[PaulGore]

I am looking for two girls that dance at Moods under the name of Cristai and Candy i meet them at campo Alegre and spent a week with them on the island.

[Fun And Sun]

"No, this is not your first trip to Jamaica. You have been to Jamaica many times, and you are here for several weeks."

Most people you talk to will quite quickly ask you if this is your first time to Jamaica. Remember, this is not a social question, you are being asked this to see if you have an idea of what prices are (for whatever you are looking to get, a taxi ride, a girl, some of the local herbiage, etc).

Answering that this is your first trip shows the person that not only don't you really know the lay of the land yet, you are also naive enough to tell someone that this is your first trip. (This holds for almost all countries you monger in, but it bears repeating for Jamaica since this is probably one of the more advanced and difficult, and one of the more fun, mongering destinations that there are.)

[Fun And Sun]

The information on strip clubs is up to date if yo scroll back on this board. There are loads of strip clubs/go-gos in Mo'Bay, Moods (now Xtatic) if you walk past Margaritaville and then past Wexford. There's a big painted sign on the building so you can't miss it. Things here start late, so doesn't really get going until 12:30 at night and weekends are best. They supposedly now have a live sex show on late night around 2:30-3:00 on Saturdays.

If you go a bit further down towards Pork Pit then there is another strip club there, but I didn't go there since I didn't have time.

In town there is the infamous Goldfingers (didn't go this trip), walked past Club Las Vegas but think they have moved from market street to the next street, but maybe I was just high (on life, nothing else...) and remember wrong...

If you go to a strip club in town, always go with a trusted driver and have him wait for you until you are ready to leave. I would not pay the driver more than 1,000 jamaican for this since he will collect 500 from management and all he has to do is sit in the car.

If you go to one of the strip clubs closer to Margaritaville, you will have to make your way through loads of hustlers/touts while walking there. Just keep going calmly, and don't let any of them walk you up to the door since then they will claim a commission from the club for supposedly taking you there. This will, ofcourse, be added to your bill or what you have to pay for entrance. Do not believe any of their stories that they can get you cheaper entrance, and ignore their stories that they can hook you up with a prettier girl for cheaper, etc. There really is no reason to use the hustlers for anything, and you will quickly find your feet and be able to set things up for yourself.

Here is a picture taken from my balcony at The Wexford. If you go left at the sign for the Chinese restaurant then that takes you to Xtatic. If you keep going down towards the turn of the road in the picture then this takes you to the next strip club, forgot it's name.

[Fun And Sun]

Got back from Mo'Bay not too long ago, and think that a lot of things have changed, although not necessarily for the worst, and changes aren't that big, but thought that I would post some updated information about things that will hopefully be useful for you fellow sex adventurers out there (not necessarily anything new, but reading back on this thread it has been a while since the information has been updated). Looking forward to hearing reactions from others that go to Jamaica on what your take is on my musings.

OK, let's start with Margaritaville. I think they have gotten a lot more strict about allowing in girls that are there "to work" rather than to have fun. I have mongered in loads of countries, and many times in Jamaica, so think myself of pretty skilled in picking out girls that are working rather than there for fun (only). Not really a problem since especially on Saturdays there are loads of girls that, to use the local term, sell p-ssy, hanging around outside Margaritaville and up towards former Moods, now called Xtatic.

They also have some sort of street patrol (men and women wearing white shirts) strolling up and down the Hip Strip day and night, think they stop at 2am, keeping the hustlers as well as the street walkers away or at least in check. Not necessarily a bad development, the hustlers are a pain and am not a fan of street walkers.

Oh, and here is a picture of Margaritaville taken from Coral Cliff casino. As you can see the establishment isn't exactly the size of legendary establishment's like now defunct Discotheca Help or Insomnia... In front of the pic are two of the waitresses from Coral Cliff, some of these waitresses are pretty hot and am sure if you got a bit of game then you can get their numbers.

[Fun And Sun]

I tried out the ocean view massage centre yesterday.

It is very easy to find. If you are coming from the airport go around the big traffic circle about 1/2 way and you will see Queens Drive. This is referred to by local as Top Road. It runs on the mountain above the Hip Strip (Bottom Road). About a mile up Quees road you will see the Hi-Lites Cafe on your right. Turn in there and follow the driveway down to a house. That is the Ocean View massage centre. You won't get confused as there is only one house on that driveway. You need to press a buzzer for admittance. You will then be escorted to the bar and handed a menu of services. There is a delightful fragrance of ganja in the air.

While you are checking out the menu or having a drink about 10 girls will come out and line up in front of you. Overall they were a pretty good looking selection ranging from 6 to 8. Nothing bad, nothing spectacular.

I chose Alaya a short little spinner and the basic "sensuous" massage for $40us. It was described on the menu as a light massage ending in ejaculation. We went to an office where I paid the fee and then to a room with a bathroom/shower and a fairly large room with a big massage table.

The view from the room is spectacular. But I was there in the afternoon and there was no AC and it was HOT. She turned on a couple of fans and that helped. We both stripped to full nude and I hopped onto the table. She did a light baby oil rub on my legs and told me to turn over. Then she did the same on the front of my legs. I reached out and rubbed her breast at which point she said any more and I must pay more. No problem, I expected that. She asked what I wanted. I said I wanted DATY and FS. She quoted $200us. She would not back down on the price for FS but offered DATY and BJ for $120. I countered with everything for $150. No go. So I went for the 120 deal and got busy. DATY would have been tasty if not for the fact that we were both sweating from the heat. But I got her off (who knows for sure with hookers) and then it was my turn. CBJ was not bad, but not spectacular. I showered off and she escorted me to the door.

Overall. Not bad, not great.compared to the Jamaican SWs I have seen, these girls were way better. They were for the most part slender and very pretty. Perhaps some of the other girls may have been more negotiable. I also didn't feel a great connection with my girl and perhaps another might have been better. But that's all part of mongering. I would also go at night when it might be a little cooler.

Compared to other parts of the Caribbean, Jamaica is very expensive. I spent a total of $160. That would be 4 sessions in SXM or and overnight with a model/sex artist in Bangkok. I can even beat the price and service in the US.

Would I go again? Maybe, but it is certainly not a reason to travel to Jamaica. But if you have the itch and can afford the scratch it can get the job done.

Wagstaff

My two cents on Ocean View Massage, formerly known as Relaxation and Rejuvenation Centre: If you are in Mo'Bay for only a few hours, like getting of a cruise ship, making an airline connection, or whatever then it is worthwhile to head there.

Otherwise it is way too expensive compared to other sources of P4P in Jamaica. USD 100 is generous for a girl to stay all night and most of the morning if you have a bit more time, and there are so many girls there that are willing to go with you "for free" if you stay there for a holiday. (They will want you to buy them little presents, clothes, money to buy food for their baby, money to pay for xyz etc.

If you decide to head to Ocean View Massage, then have the taxi take you to Hi Lites cafe, have him drop you of there, and wait for him to leave. Then head down the drive way to the massage parlour. It is the only house under the large Red Stripe sign, so you can't miss it, but there is no sign on the door or anything like that. On your way back, just grab a taxi from Top Road, loads of them come by there. Reason for this convoluted strategy - save the $10 commission that they pay the driver and then pass on to you with the more expensive menu.

Sorry, a bit of a rambling post...