Aruba

[NRandom940]

I wouldn't put much faith in an Aruban tourism website. They are probably trying to point you to Charlie's Bar, which is somewhat of a tourist trap. That may indeed be open. As for the chica bars, I'd bet they are closed, unless someone posts on here to the contrary. Furthermore, the chica bars don't open until around 8 pm The only other bar in San Nicolas is Fan Restaurant at the very end of the main street and this is more of a chinese restaurant with a long bar that is more of a local joint, if it's even open. Covid hasn't gone away and cases are climbing, even in the Caribbean. Read my latest post in the Curacao forum. I think any trip to the Caribbean for mongering purposes in 2020, will be more of a hassle ending with disappointment, than anything else.

What are the prices usually like in Charlie's Bar?

I've been looking at some agencies online and the prices are $150-$180/ HR. No sense traveling for that, IMO.

[ClubTed]

I'll update my own question and share information with you all.

I just emailed an Aruba tourism website and they confirmed that some San Nicolas bars are open.

I wouldn't put much faith in an Aruban tourism website. They are probably trying to point you to Charlie's Bar, which is somewhat of a tourist trap. That may indeed be open. As for the chica bars, I'd bet they are closed, unless someone posts on here to the contrary. Furthermore, the chica bars don't open until around 8 pm The only other bar in San Nicolas is Fan Restaurant at the very end of the main street and this is more of a chinese restaurant with a long bar that is more of a local joint, if it's even open. Covid hasn't gone away and cases are climbing, even in the Caribbean. Read my latest post in the Curacao forum. I think any trip to the Caribbean for mongering purposes in 2020, will be more of a hassle ending with disappointment, than anything else.

[NRandom940]

I've never been there before. But I heard that Oranjestad has a nice bar-mongering scene when it's open. Not sure if the bars are still closed for lockdown.

I'll update my own question and share information with you all.

I just emailed an Aruba tourism website and they confirmed that some San Nicolas bars are open.

[NRandom940]

I've never been there before. But I heard that Oranjestad has a nice bar-mongering scene when it's open. Not sure if the bars are still closed for lockdown.

[Just Incognito]

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[Just Incognito]

Yet it hasn't been done in any country. You've unrealistic expectations when it comes to the results from a lockdown. We have to learn to live with the virus because it won't go away. The virus is only going to mutate into less lethal forms and it will run out of people to kill.

Stop panicking, this is not the end of the world and most certainly not the worst virus we've seen. It's time to get back to the new normal instead of dreaming about unrealistic scenarios.

Not panicking. Sheesh. Stop with the hyperbole. This is the typical attack the messenger because you have no facts nonsense. I didn't say it was the end of the world again you just make shit up and totally mischaracterize what I am saying and how I say them. Though trump is the end of the united states of america.

There is no normal until this gets under control. Within a few months there will be near instant testing available to the public that will shift everything. We need to mitigate the virus effects and lower the curve until then. Then we party.

[ShooBree]

The US has been a total failure at this. The fault obviously lies with the people in charge: trump and his covidiot cronies. Sad.

Universal masking, only go out for essentials, distancing and hygiene --we know the tricks--all it takes is leadership and this is done in weeks.

Someone mentioned we won't eradicate it globally--well, yeah-but we should try! Where's the UN. Imagine if the US, and the UN LEAD the world together. We could all be Iceland!

Yet it hasn't been done in any country. You've unrealistic expectations when it comes to the results from a lockdown. We have to learn to live with the virus because it won't go away. The virus is only going to mutate into less lethal forms and it will run out of people to kill.

Stop panicking, this is not the end of the world and most certainly not the worst virus we've seen. It's time to get back to the new normal instead of dreaming about unrealistic scenarios.

[ShooBree]

"Certain freedoms". More like people are too fucking selfish and self-absorbed to be willing to make sacrifices for the common good. Wearing a mask to go into a store is "tyranny" LOL! Remind my fellow Americans that their rights end where my nose begins. In this case literally! There's been no national coordinated effort in the United States at all in anyway at any time during this pandemic. The "United States" hasn't done anything. It's been this state and that state doing it's own thing, even down to the county level. And on top of that, you can't get a straight answer from the "experts" on what to do. First they say this, then they say that. Oh no, that was a mistake, we didn't mean that! All of this has been the problem in the United States. Helter skelter all over the place with too many selfish people not wanting anybody telling them what to do. "American exceptionalism". At its worst. More like American hubris.

Talking about selfishness, that's a perfect description of those wanting to lockdown forever without any regards for how it will affect other people that have nothing to fear from the virus itself.

[Just Incognito]

Nope won't eradicate it in weeks. Will fire back up when we open up again. Happened in the USA and almost every other country on Earth. Remember the US locked down, only out for essentials for six weeks in Late March and April? We tried it. Didn't work.

Do we need the Govt, to dictate our lives? Do you want bigger govt? Just the fact that you are travelling internationally for sex tells me you are being hypocritical as the US Govt is dictating your sex life and you don't like it. Life needs to go on.

Talk to business owners about locking down again. See how they feel.

If you think the US locked down. You don't know what a lockdown really is! And they opened up way too quick-they did it based on time--its been long enough--not data--how low are the case positive states. There was and still is a major lack of testing and tracing. The idea is the lockdown gets the curve low enough to be able to test trace and track the rest. The US has utterly failed at all of this--and did not actually do a real lockdown-just because they call it that--it wasn't. Other countries like new zealand figured it out. Taiwan hong kng thailand. Much more severe lockdowns. Heck, China kept Beijing safer than the usa could keep topeka!

There is no wealth without health. Mandated universal masking and mandated ditancing must be the temporary law of the land.

And no, I am not a hypocrite--I don't live in the US--the US doesn't tell me shit to do with my life. Where I live paying for pussy is legal.

[Mfins]

The US has been a total failure at this. The fault obviously lies with the people in charge: trump and his covidiot cronies. Sad.

Universal masking, only go out for essentials, distancing and hygiene --we know the tricks--all it takes is leadership and this is done in weeks.

Someone mentioned we won't eradicate it globally--well, yeah-but we should try! Where's the UN. Imagine if the US, and the UN LEAD the world together. We could all be Iceland!

Nope won't eradicate it in weeks. Will fire back up when we open up again. Happened in the USA and almost every other country on Earth. Remember the US locked down, only out for essentials for six weeks in Late March and April? We tried it. Didn't work.

Do we need the Govt, to dictate our lives? Do you want bigger govt? Just the fact that you are travelling internationally for sex tells me you are being hypocritical as the US Govt is dictating your sex life and you don't like it. Life needs to go on.

Talk to business owners about locking down again. See how they feel.

[Just Incognito]

"Certain freedoms". More like people are too fucking selfish and self-absorbed to be willing to make sacrifices for the common good. Wearing a mask to go into a store is "tyranny" LOL! Remind my fellow Americans that their rights end where my nose begins. In this case literally! There's been no national coordinated effort in the United States at all in anyway at any time during this pandemic. The "United States" hasn't done anything. It's been this state and that state doing it's own thing, even down to the county level. And on top of that, you can't get a straight answer from the "experts" on what to do. First they say this, then they say that. Oh no, that was a mistake, we didn't mean that! All of this has been the problem in the United States. Helter skelter all over the place with too many selfish people not wanting anybody telling them what to do. "American exceptionalism". At its worst. More like American hubris.

The US has been a total failure at this. The fault obviously lies with the people in charge: trump and his covidiot cronies. Sad.

Universal masking, only go out for essentials, distancing and hygiene --we know the tricks--all it takes is leadership and this is done in weeks.

Someone mentioned we won't eradicate it globally--well, yeah-but we should try! Where's the UN. Imagine if the US, and the UN LEAD the world together. We could all be Iceland!

[PVMonger]

"Certain freedoms". More like people are too fucking selfish and self-absorbed to be willing to make sacrifices for the common good. Wearing a mask to go into a store is "tyranny" LOL! Remind my fellow Americans that their rights end where my nose begins. In this case literally! There's been no national coordinated effort in the United States at all in anyway at any time during this pandemic. The "United States" hasn't done anything. It's been this state and that state doing it's own thing, even down to the county level. And on top of that, you can't get a straight answer from the "experts" on what to do. First they say this, then they say that. Oh no, that was a mistake, we didn't mean that! All of this has been the problem in the United States. Helter skelter all over the place with too many selfish people not wanting anybody telling them what to do. "American exceptionalism". At its worst. More like American hubris.

Abso-freakin'-lutely.

[Lucky Strike]

I agree with you except for the fact that you say it worked. If what we are talking about is completely eradicating the virus on an island it didn't work and won't because there is always going to be one person to F it up as you say. Eventually, be it in 6 weeks or 6 months people have to go outside again. Without a vaccine it won't and didn't work. All you did is delay the spread and make people suffer, go broke, lose a business they have spent a lifetime building and, maybe have mental health issues, depression etc.

Sh*t, this is not a forum to debate pandemic response, but what the heck. They did eradicate the virus for a few weeks. But it was too expensive and "authoritarian" to stay that way.

Look, Aruba is an ISLAND, no land borders with other countries. Only by sea / air. Once they stopped local transmission (assuming all asymptomatic cases burned themselves out. A big assumption, but given how long there have been no new cases, probably a correct one), in order to stay that way they'd have to quarantine every arriving person for 2 weeks. And by quarantine I mean literally under house arrest. If they could do that (including illegal immigrants and tourists), there would be no COVID in Aruba. But to do that in a relatively free and very much tourist-dependent country is for all intents and purposes is impossible. That way the residents would be able to go outside, but the island would have to be sealed off from the world.

[The Cane]

In addition, citizens of Asian countries are more used to conforming. Especially China. Asian's have been wearing masks with and without pandemics for as long as I can remember. In the home of the free we are granted certain freedoms other countries are not and, to expect US citizens to lock down for an extended period of time is not realistic. Hence, more success in other countries.

"Certain freedoms". More like people are too fucking selfish and self-absorbed to be willing to make sacrifices for the common good. Wearing a mask to go into a store is "tyranny" LOL! Remind my fellow Americans that their rights end where my nose begins. In this case literally! There's been no national coordinated effort in the United States at all in anyway at any time during this pandemic. The "United States" hasn't done anything. It's been this state and that state doing it's own thing, even down to the county level. And on top of that, you can't get a straight answer from the "experts" on what to do. First they say this, then they say that. Oh no, that was a mistake, we didn't mean that! All of this has been the problem in the United States. Helter skelter all over the place with too many selfish people not wanting anybody telling them what to do. "American exceptionalism". At its worst. More like American hubris.