Aruba

[DonJon2015]

Finally will be returning to the happy island after a long absence. How is San Nicolas right now? I read the recent reports and I can see what you guys mean. It can be hit or miss but I enjoy the nightlife scene. I will be reporting live in a couple of weeks.

[Masseys1]

There are actually 4 and a half streets. The last street up from California Bar has 3 or 4 Dominicans living in a corner building. If you can't find it, you're not missing out on anything. I think the bars open around 7 pm They are virtually empty all night, and the chicas hang out in front. Your best bet would be Copacabana Bar, down from Charlie's Bar. Same side of street. Seemed there were some fairly attractive girls there. Sofia speaks excellent English, but I met her one night and tabled doing anything with her till the next night and never saw her around again. My chica friend Natalia from Colombia is over on Jan. Something Straat. She's got long dark hair and nice bolt ONS. She's 32 though, but never married and never had any kids. You can offer her 50 florin, but she'll put a puss on. Her room as most of them is basically right on the street. With open door, there's the bed. She shares a bathroom with the girl to your left. Pretty depressing room scenario. San Nicolas is the car version of walking the RLD in Amsterdam, if you've ever been there. Guys will go up and down the streets hoping that something magical will happen and that a stunner chica will materialize out of thin air. But it ain't going to happen!

So here's the highlight of my San Nicolas experience. And I'm still trying to understand how it came to be! The Sunday I was in town, I was working on a couple of chicas I'd been with to go to Baby Beach. Of course even though the town was dead, they were looking for money. Natalia wanted 200 and another 30 something year old wanted 100 for a couple of hours going to la playa. I was going to take the 100 dollar chica, just because she had a better attitude, but I decided to circle the block one more time. Well, good move on my part! So I'm walking and walk past Charlie's Bar and head to Copacabana Bar where a couple of chicas were out in front that I'd never seen before. I approach them and ask them if they'd like to go to the beach! Well, they were off with me like a dress on prom night! My car was parked down by Fan Restaurant, and just like that I had two fairly hot Colombians walking with me to the rental car. No questions asked!

One is Luanda. Tall, volleyball player build. The other was short. Perky tits and an ass you could bounce quarters off of! So we get in my car, and first thing I say to myself is we need beer to kick this party off! I head to the supermarket I'd been going to, only to find it closed. Then went to another. Picked up a couple of six packs. They wanted Chill. And off to the beach we go!

So they're both in shorts and tops and once at the beach, the chica with the ass to die for, takes off her shorts to reveal a hot pink dental floss bikini bottom. Every guy at the beach must have gotten punched by their other half. I was the king of the world! Now a couple of locals come over that they must have met before. They were cool, and one of them was actually the beachchair rental guy. They asked him for cups of ice since the only cold beer in Aruba at a store are singles and we drank those in the car to the beach. We went in the water together and killed the two six packs. Now the smaller chica who sat in the back of the car was tired and wanted to go home. No problem, I wanted the one that sit in the front seat next to me anyway. So I drop the littler one back off in San Nicolas and ask the other if she wants to get something to eat. She says yes. And I head up toward Oranjestad. I take her on a bit of a tour. Show her California lighthouse and then we stop at Bro and Beer for wings and more beer. She seemed to be enjoying herself and I was having a good time as well. I actually started to feel sorry for her, knowing that her brief trip to the civilized world would soon end, as I would drop her off in depressing San Nicolas for her to nap and exist in a small room with a bed and a closet. Sort of a living hell. I dropped her back at her gated door in San Nicolas and said I would see her later that night. I had already checked out of my apartment since I planned on doing an all night before flying out in the morning. I never saw her back out on the street again. Nor her friend. But the time at the beach will always be a memory I'll cherish from Aruba.

So there you have it. Sounds like SXM is in rebuild mode. And Aruba, well, it's probably seen better days. Next up for me is Campo, before that ends up going downhill. Bottom line, if you're thinking of going to Aruba, with the sole purpose of playing around in San Nicolas. Don't. It's not worth it.

Club Ted if you read my trip report here awhile back I completely agree with comments. I am by no means the monger expert, but have been to Costa Rica, Aruba, and to Black Beards and Sosua in the DR. I was shocked by how bad the girls looked over all. That house with the 4 or 5 girls (that were 4's and 5's) is where I believe I came across an older Mexican looking lady that was so bad I can't put it in words. I was guessing that house was not part of the girls coming in but were locals? Anyway just wanted to say thanks for report and I really found everything you said to be my experience to at T.

[Cursnoop]

ClubTed,

I enjoyed reading your reports and completely agree with your assessment of what SN is like. I travel to AUA quite often, but mostly for sun, beach and cold beverages, and when the temperature back home is waaaayyyy below freezing. Last few times I was in AUA, I drove to SN once (to see if it looks any better than previously) and drove back to "hotel area" without even stopping.

But I'm writing this mainly to tell you something that I've learned from my interactions with a chica in Aruba many years ago, and your report brought back a lot of old memories. Look, I don't want to sound like a heartless pri*ck, but I think you're making too big of a deal about the chicas' conditions in SN. They know full well what they're in for. For the vast majority this is not their first time in SN, and not the first or second or third time on the islands. If you felt sorry for that girl you should have given her $100. That's what they're there for.

A number of years ago I flew to AUA to see one "special" girl that I've known for several years. Her living conditions in SN were just as you've described. Shared room, shared toilet, all day sitting on a plastic chair behind metal gate, bored out her mind..

Lucky is right, don't feel sorry for the girls there could be some exceptions but most of the girls when the money is up your time is also up. I know a lot of locals and I have seen chicas talking shit and after that go ran up to the same dudes they talk bad about. I am currently In Aruba and I am leaving tomorrow and truth be told I have seen some fine chicas in the last 2 weeks some left some are still there, the thing is you need to hit Sanikolaas more often to see new chicas, because some chicas are occupied or are out with their clients and you think that the leftovers which most are ugly are the norm. ClubTed send me a pm, I am not good with the chica names if you describe them maybe I know some.

[Lucky Strike]

... I actually started to feel sorry for her, knowing that her brief trip to the civilized world would soon end, as I would drop her off in depressing San Nicolas for her to nap and exist in a small room with a bed and a closet. Sort of a living hell. I dropped her back at her gated door in San Nicolas...

ClubTed,

I enjoyed reading your reports and completely agree with your assessment of what SN is like. I travel to AUA quite often, but mostly for sun, beach and cold beverages, and when the temperature back home is waaaayyyy below freezing. Last few times I was in AUA, I drove to SN once (to see if it looks any better than previously) and drove back to "hotel area" without even stopping.

But I'm writing this mainly to tell you something that I've learned from my interactions with a chica in Aruba many years ago, and your report brought back a lot of old memories. Look, I don't want to sound like a heartless pri*ck, but I think you're making too big of a deal about the chicas' conditions in SN. They know full well what they're in for. For the vast majority this is not their first time in SN, and not the first or second or third time on the islands. If you felt sorry for that girl you should have given her $100. That's what they're there for.

A number of years ago I flew to AUA to see one "special" girl that I've known for several years. Her living conditions in SN were just as you've described. Shared room, shared toilet, all day sitting on a plastic chair behind metal gate, bored out her mind. She used to email me how much she hated SN and wanted out, how much she disliked "smelly oil workers", etc etc. I took her "out" for 6 days and 6 nights, having to pay over $4 k (after negotiating for 2 hours with the bar owner to lower the multa) for the "privilege" (and who knows how much more or restaurants, drinks, trips and casinos.) Hey, it was worth it! I don't have any "freaky requests", so I think the $3 k+ that she made was the easiest $3 k in here "career.

I felt excruciatingly sorry for her when I dropped her off in front of her bar in SN and drove back to pack my stuff before early morning flight. I couldn't sleep, and drove to SN to see her again at 2:30 am. Well, knowing that I was leaving the following morning (no more dinero to extract) she wasn't at all happy to see me. Especially when I told her that I just wanted to see her and wasn't going to go to her room. She literally spent less than 2 minutes with me, said "sorry" and went to "work" on the next "smelly oil worker" who just walked into the bar, to try to get him to pay 50 florins for 30 min in that shitty dormitorio with a shared bed and a shared toilet. That really opened my eyes on how things really work in "the industry". Just had to get it off my chest.

There probably are chicas in the "industry" in SN (or SXM, or Campo, or POP / Sosua, or SDQ) that are different from "mine", but I've not met anyone like that yet. ClubTed, I assume that you're from one of the more / most "developed" countries in the world. These chicas are from real ghetto. What seems outrageous to someone from the 1st world country is the way of life for them. Don't feel sorry for these girls for the WRONG reasons. Their goal is not to go to a beach, or fancy restaurant food, or pleasant company. They'll obviously take it if offered, but they're there to bring back as much dinero as possible. Feeling sad for them can totally ruin one's trip. As hard as it seems, I think you should not. If you pay them, you can have 100% piece of mind that they're quite happy. And so can you.

[ClubTed]

There are actually 4 and a half streets. The last street up from California Bar has 3 or 4 Dominicans living in a corner building. If you can't find it, you're not missing out on anything. I think the bars open around 7 pm They are virtually empty all night, and the chicas hang out in front. Your best bet would be Copacabana Bar, down from Charlie's Bar. Same side of street. Seemed there were some fairly attractive girls there. Sofia speaks excellent English, but I met her one night and tabled doing anything with her till the next night and never saw her around again. My chica friend Natalia from Colombia is over on Jan. Something Straat. She's got long dark hair and nice bolt ONS. She's 32 though, but never married and never had any kids. You can offer her 50 florin, but she'll put a puss on. Her room as most of them is basically right on the street. With open door, there's the bed. She shares a bathroom with the girl to your left. Pretty depressing room scenario. San Nicolas is the car version of walking the RLD in Amsterdam, if you've ever been there. Guys will go up and down the streets hoping that something magical will happen and that a stunner chica will materialize out of thin air. But it ain't going to happen!

So here's the highlight of my San Nicolas experience. And I'm still trying to understand how it came to be! The Sunday I was in town, I was working on a couple of chicas I'd been with to go to Baby Beach. Of course even though the town was dead, they were looking for money. Natalia wanted 200 and another 30 something year old wanted 100 for a couple of hours going to la playa. I was going to take the 100 dollar chica, just because she had a better attitude, but I decided to circle the block one more time. Well, good move on my part! So I'm walking and walk past Charlie's Bar and head to Copacabana Bar where a couple of chicas were out in front that I'd never seen before. I approach them and ask them if they'd like to go to the beach! Well, they were off with me like a dress on prom night! My car was parked down by Fan Restaurant, and just like that I had two fairly hot Colombians walking with me to the rental car. No questions asked!

One is Luanda. Tall, volleyball player build. The other was short. Perky tits and an ass you could bounce quarters off of! So we get in my car, and first thing I say to myself is we need beer to kick this party off! I head to the supermarket I'd been going to, only to find it closed. Then went to another. Picked up a couple of six packs. They wanted Chill. And off to the beach we go!

So they're both in shorts and tops and once at the beach, the chica with the ass to die for, takes off her shorts to reveal a hot pink dental floss bikini bottom. Every guy at the beach must have gotten punched by their other half. I was the king of the world! Now a couple of locals come over that they must have met before. They were cool, and one of them was actually the beachchair rental guy. They asked him for cups of ice since the only cold beer in Aruba at a store are singles and we drank those in the car to the beach. We went in the water together and killed the two six packs. Now the smaller chica who sat in the back of the car was tired and wanted to go home. No problem, I wanted the one that sit in the front seat next to me anyway. So I drop the littler one back off in San Nicolas and ask the other if she wants to get something to eat. She says yes. And I head up toward Oranjestad. I take her on a bit of a tour. Show her California lighthouse and then we stop at Bro and Beer for wings and more beer. She seemed to be enjoying herself and I was having a good time as well. I actually started to feel sorry for her, knowing that her brief trip to the civilized world would soon end, as I would drop her off in depressing San Nicolas for her to nap and exist in a small room with a bed and a closet. Sort of a living hell. I dropped her back at her gated door in San Nicolas and said I would see her later that night. I had already checked out of my apartment since I planned on doing an all night before flying out in the morning. I never saw her back out on the street again. Nor her friend. But the time at the beach will always be a memory I'll cherish from Aruba.

So there you have it. Sounds like SXM is in rebuild mode. And Aruba, well, it's probably seen better days. Next up for me is Campo, before that ends up going downhill. Bottom line, if you're thinking of going to Aruba, with the sole purpose of playing around in San Nicolas. Don't. It's not worth it.

Just arrived in Aruba, and made my first spin around the block today. Sorry to hear the disappointing report. On a side note: I counted 3 streets! LOL, but then again I was scoping the area during the day. Like you said: everything was closed. With the exception of the 3rd street which had street action. About 5 girls on one side & I think a few others further up the street (in what I think you refer to as the caged area). They were all 5's or 6's at best (I would prob need to close my eyes to get some of them up to a 6, LOL).

Any idea what time the night action kicks off & the bars open up?

[CFront]

So here's the lay of the land. You've basically got 4 streets. The first abuts the refinery and faces a big laundry company, and it's at the backside of Aruba Bank and Charlies Bar. There are two bars on this street. American Bar and Caracas Bar. Also two spots where girls might sit ala RLD Amsterdam style. The bars are closed during the day, and you've got your pick of possibly two girls. Tops!.

Just arrived in Aruba, and made my first spin around the block today. Sorry to hear the disappointing report. On a side note: I counted 3 streets! LOL, but then again I was scoping the area during the day. Like you said: everything was closed. With the exception of the 3rd street which had street action. About 5 girls on one side & I think a few others further up the street (in what I think you refer to as the caged area). They were all 5's or 6's at best (I would prob need to close my eyes to get some of them up to a 6, LOL).

Any idea what time the night action kicks off & the bars open up?

[ClubTed]

So from the pricing perspective. I opted to change money into florins for ease of conversion. Any amount under 100 florins has no commission so I changed 50 bucks or euros and got back around 90 plus florins. Exchange rate was about 1.77 florin to the dollar, vs. 1.75 which is what gas stations and everyone else will give you. Anyway. 50 florin was the basic chica rate. But the upsell happens from there. Let me tell you the two scenarios.

Day. Anytime from 5 am On. There are a few girls either roaming the desolate back streets or sitting behind their gates. Not many, and not many of those you'd be interested in. This is the 50 florin deal.

Night. A bit more involved. And also, almost another lineup that surfaces out of nowhere. Met a few on the street my first night and never saw them again. Not sure what's up with that. Anyway, bar girls will meet you outside the entrance. Want you to buy them drinks inside, then you have to pay the bar either 12 or 15 florin or dollars, then the payment to the girl. In other words. It was sort of a hassle to understand and negotiate, so I stuck with daytime offerings. Plus, the drive back to my place in Seroe Colorado was a challenge in the dark. The nighttime experience was a hard sell, due to the fact that there was virtually nobody around and the chicas were desperate. Most of the action was guys in cars driving the back streets playing voyeur.

So being disappointed with the lay of the land and the chicas that presented themselves, and also, having my Plan 'be', basically implode on me. It was pretty much a sucky Aruba visit, with one exception. My off the cuff comment to two chicas in front of a bar on Sunday afternoon that turned into a Hallmark moment! Details to follow.

[ClubTed]

Very disappointing in comparison to Carolina's in SXM. First the numbers are so low. Don't get me wrong. There are so doable girls in San Nicolas. But some that you see at night never resurface for days. Not sure what that's all about. So I came to the conclusion that there are two types of working girls in SN. First, those that reside adjacent to the bar that they work at. And secondly, those that freelance on the backstreets in rooms that look right out of an old issue of an African article from National Geographic. The nighttime (bar) chicas are ghosts during the day. The chicas on the far back streets are more consistently present. One chica told me it was 110 florin a day to rent the room, which is 60 plus bucks a day, that includes everything. To put it in perspective. My place in Seroe Colorado was 49 bucks a day, all inclusive. So on to the chicas.

Not being one sided, but my Colombians friend. My plan 'be', was by far the hottest chica in town. And she knew it. Which compromised my time with her. In other words. Every minute with her had a cost. She was the queen bee. Was with her once. Then asked about staying with her one night, since it was so slow. She wanted 200 dollars for me to knock on her door at 2 am and then shove off by 6 am sorry, wasn't going to happen.

Anyway, aside from one session with her, which was mediocre, I met with 5 other chicas. And one was a two fer. Ages were 22,27, 34, and unknown for the last 2. While the queen bee is 32. All the women I was with were attractive by my standards, and there weren't any gorditas wandering around by any means. And nobody was pushing / selling drugs. Again, just a ghost town, serial atmosphere.

My repeat chica was a 34 yo Colombians, nice body, fairly cute. Maybe a 6 or a 7. Another one that smelled fantastic which was worth the visit was in the same age range. Fairly feisty, multiple positions, and good overall attitude.

So three down, {quasi girlfriend, and 2 milfs.) three to go. To report on. And oh, for you finance minded mongers. I'll tell you the price structure in the next report.

[ClubTed]

Now I know why the activity has been somewhat sparse on the Aruba thread. Well, to sum it up nicely, guess I can say. Been there, done that. Let me preface my report that I had never been to Aruba, after being a long time visitor to SXM, and since the latest SXM posts have been somewhat undesirable, decided to take off to Aruba. Also, I had a Plan be in place. But I needed a Plan see, the, and E! Ok. Let me begin.

Don't get me wrong, Aruba is a beautiful island. It's the Caribbean. But the tankers and oil / gas platform ships parked offshore, make it much different upon landing than other islands. You're only 19 miles off the coast of Venezuela, and the Citgo refinery dominates the landscape of San Nicolas. So I don't have to talk about the weather or the beautiful beaches. Let me get right to the topic everyone is reading and waiting to hear about. San Nicolas.

First, I stayed in Seroe Colorado, which I'm glad I did. It's a bit of a ride from the low / high rise hotel district to SN. It's doable but still takes time. Definitely rent a car. Don't deal with the buses, and there are hardly any taxi's hanging around San Nicolas. In fact, San Nicolas is a cross between a Ghost Town, the land that time forgot, the south Bronx back in the day, and in parts, a third world looking city. No restaurants to speak of, no people, no shopping, no. Nothing! Even markets to duck into to buy a cold beer are hard to find, and the two (White Star) and the Oriental Grocery Store, close at noon!

So here's the lay of the land. You've basically got 4 streets. The first abuts the refinery and faces a big laundry company, and it's at the backside of Aruba Bank and Charlies Bar. There are two bars on this street. American Bar and Caracas Bar. Also two spots where girls might sit ala RLD Amsterdam style. The bars are closed during the day, and you've got your pick of possibly two girls. Tops!

Now move up one street where the infamous Charlie's Bar is. Which is hit or miss regarding being open. I spent most of my time on this street, changing dollars and euros into florin at the Aruba Bank, and trying to get drunk at a reasonable price for a 7 oz. Balashi (the local beer) at the White Star store. Past Charlie's Bar heading toward the unfinished hotel there are some bars, but again. Closed during the day. Now at the end of the street on the left is a place called Fan Restaurant / Bar. Very popular with the locals. And open most of the time, except Sunday. Find this place and park very close to here since there's lots of activity around. And the only safety concern I had was someone F*ing with my rental car, since the car company emblazoned it's logo on the front and back windows. Talk about a bullseye.

Now we're up to the third street back. This is where it gets interesting. First. If you don't trip over a dog sleeping in the road during the day, or get hit by a car cruising the alley (I did both. Walked and cruised) you might see a chica, behind a grated gate, or in one part, almost a cage. Welcome to the third world! Maybe a dozen tops chicas. Some in the room, some roaming the street out of boredom, some going to the Dominican breakfast bar. The same for the fourth street. Called Jan something Straat. Think the third is Rembrantstraat. No worries, you won't get lost in a 4 block radius. You will figure out the lay of the land in 5 minutes. Word of caution. Rent the smallest size car possible if you cruise the backstreets. You can clip a mirror or get sideswiped. It's tight. The last street houses the Brooklyn Bar which is closed / out of business. Also has the Chinese grocery store where the occasional goat is tied to the handle to the entrance and you have to negotiate that to get a cold Balashi or Polar. OK, I'm going to bullet point some quick facts.

1) Cialis is available at the drugstore across from Aruba bank. If you can challenge the pharmacist. She asked if I had any heart problems and a prescription. Told her I was fit and that I left it in the car and would gladly go get it, which I did have from some dated stuff from a physical and a box from a pharmacy in SXM. Cost of a 20 MG pill though was 20 dollars! She filled it when I said give me 3. I asked for a discount. No luck.

2) Beers are more expensive than SXM. Aside from the 6 chicas I was with, that was my second biggest expense. Third being fuel.

3) No restaurants in SN to speak of. KFC and BK are your best bets to put food in your stomach.

4) Felt fairly safe, but was more concerned about the rental car getting broken into. Actually, early morning, between 7 and 8 am Was the most uncomfortable as I was waiting to get into the bank and the all night crack head guys were wandering the streets. At night, with the car traffic, they think they're always another set of eyes on them. Also, there is hardly any foot traffic. I parked and walked most of the time. There are some dead spots and you are dealing with alleys somewhat, so be alert.

5) There is one apartment on the last street I mentioned just at the beginning of it or one more up that houses 4 or 5 chicas, that are 4's and 5's. If you miss it, you haven't missed anything.

So now remember, the only legal spot for mongering in Aruba is San Nicolas. And it's confined to an area, maybe the size of a football field. At best. So stayed tuned for my take on the chicas. Another report forthcoming.

[Robbie876]

A couple of last minute questions.

There is a fixed exchange rate to the US Dollar of 1.77 florin to 1 US Dollar, most will round it to 1.75 or 1.80 so your 30 dollars is 53 and change in florins. And 50 is still the standard rate, some will try for more.

The bars are closed during the day so no worry about bar fines, just what you want to give the lady for her company.

Most bars work with the lady drinks, the girl will have to drink x amount before going to the room with you or you pay the equivalent and go to the room.

Beach-wise you are good, Baby beach and Rogers Beach are nice and close to SN, enjoy your stay and look forward to your report after!

[CFront]

Well it's been a week since my last post, and the Aruba forum has been silent for seven days. Not sure if its a seasonal thing or San Nicolas has fallen out of favor as a destination to visit. Anyway, less than 100 hours till wheels up and I'm looking forward to checking out San Nicolas, regardless of the status. I found a place just outside of town, which should reduce the travel time to the main attraction. It's spartan, but should work. Plus there's a couple of beaches nearby. Renting a car, so may venture up toward the resort area around Eagle and Palm beaches one day.

I found youtube to be fairly helpful in terms of getting some on the ground intel of the lay of the land of San Nicolas. The area does look seedy, but seedy is good! If I wanted glitz and glamour, I'd be visiting Vegas! LOL! I may pop into Charlie's Bar, just to say I've been there. All the trinkets splashed all over the place doesn't make the place any different than dozens of other joints that have the same tourist theme. I'm really curious as to the other bars and the so called 3 to 4 chicas that are housed there, vs. The 20+ lineup during peak time at Carolina's in SXM. Also, the daytime alley walk should prove to be a tropical version of the Amsterdam RLD!

If things are fairly quiet in San Nicolas, I'm hoping it's a buyers market! Hoping to do a couple of TLD's. And see how things go from there. Will ask around and see if I get a consistent baseline about a TLN and take it from there. My Colombian chica friend is working in San Nicolas, so I'm not sure how the TLN can work for her. Aside from whatever I decide to give her, I'm still unsure of how bar fines work in San Nicolas, as well as if the chicas are free during the day. Any last minute comment would be appreciated. Otherwise. I'll soon find out for myself!

Keep me posted! I'll be around from the 22nd onward. I'm staying closer to Oranjestad & keeping my schedule flexible. But would be interested to hear from someone on the ground, there around the same time.

[ClubTed]

Well it's been a week since my last post, and the Aruba forum has been silent for seven days. Not sure if its a seasonal thing or San Nicolas has fallen out of favor as a destination to visit. Anyway, less than 100 hours till wheels up and I'm looking forward to checking out San Nicolas, regardless of the status. I found a place just outside of town, which should reduce the travel time to the main attraction. It's spartan, but should work. Plus there's a couple of beaches nearby. Renting a car, so may venture up toward the resort area around Eagle and Palm beaches one day.

I found youtube to be fairly helpful in terms of getting some on the ground intel of the lay of the land of San Nicolas. The area does look seedy, but seedy is good! If I wanted glitz and glamour, I'd be visiting Vegas! LOL! I may pop into Charlie's Bar, just to say I've been there. All the trinkets splashed all over the place doesn't make the place any different than dozens of other joints that have the same tourist theme. I'm really curious as to the other bars and the so called 3 to 4 chicas that are housed there, vs. The 20+ lineup during peak time at Carolina's in SXM. Also, the daytime alley walk should prove to be a tropical version of the Amsterdam RLD!

If things are fairly quiet in San Nicolas, I'm hoping it's a buyers market! Hoping to do a couple of TLD's. And see how things go from there. Will ask around and see if I get a consistent baseline about a TLN and take it from there. My Colombian chica friend is working in San Nicolas, so I'm not sure how the TLN can work for her. Aside from whatever I decide to give her, I'm still unsure of how bar fines work in San Nicolas, as well as if the chicas are free during the day. Any last minute comment would be appreciated. Otherwise. I'll soon find out for myself!

[ClubTed]

Well, nothing like waiting to the last minute. And almost screwing up! Heading down to Aruba in 10 days. Got a sweet deal on airfare, but almost blew it with car and accommodations. Ended up getting a car, seems like the closer you get to your arrival date, all the economy cars at the rental agencies vanish. Same to say about AirBnB. However, found a small place just outside of San Nicolas, in Seroe Colorado that should suffice. All I need is a place to hunker down and call home base while I explore the island. Also, a Colombiana that I met in SXM is on island, so I know there's at least one hottie in San Nicolas. Once I pick up the rental car I need to make my way toward San Nicolas and Baby Beach. Guy I'm renting from gave me directions and his number and a place to meet if I can't find the apartment. A couple of last minute questions.

1) Is the basic going rate 50 florin, or 30 USD? I know everything is negotiable. And daytime rates are probably lower than the evening premium. Also, what's the current scene? I know Charlie's Bar is the landmark and there's a Carolina's Bar and maybe 7 or 8 others all condensed in a 4 block area.

2) Are there bar fines during the day? From what I've read, the chicas hang out in the alleys. Either that's there room or there room is in the bar? Again, with anything being possible, just want a baseline to go by. I've read some reports of $250 for the day? Is that to the bar or to the chica?

3) On the evening circuit, is there a room key fee, similar to the clubs in SXM?

4) Seems to be more economical to change dollars into florin and get a better bank for your buck. Assuming any bank will change currency in San Nicolas.

5) Any private beach recommendations in the event of a daytime trip with a chica? Baby Beach looks closeby and pretty clean. Although the oil refinery in the background takes away from the paradise theme.

6) Any bars in San Nicolas to avoid? Beers and drinks in the clubs in SXM are pretty reasonable. Not looking to walk into a place and order a beer and a drink for a chica and be told the tab is twenty bucks!

Will gladly share my experiences upon return. Seems the chicas are pretty much on top of each other, as opposed to the different clubs in SXM, so it will be interesting to see how it goes with trying to snuggle up with my Colombian friend during my stay, while still wanting to sample some of the other desirable dishes! If pickings are slim, then at least I have a plan 'be'!

[Liathain]

Charlies' at Center Bottom.

[Mel365]

Football,

The Brooklyn bar is a small bar in a row of 2 other bars about 3 or 4 blocks back from the stret that charlies bar is located. It is at the BACK odf the district.

If you go to charlies bar coming from the airport, take a left at charlies bar it is 3 or 4 streets back on a parallel street to charlies bar and is 1 block to your right.