Aruba

[Helpmann]

I had people there a couple of weeks ago and there the rumor around the island was that the girl let loose to get her freak on.

Like the last southern white girl (Jennifer Wilbanks) who went missing this summer she probably jumped on a boat (bus) to get her freak on some other island (city.)


-Helpmann

[Senor Amable]

Hey Macgoo;
I don't want to tie up the forum on this Aruba / Natalee Story. Everybody is certainly entitled to voice their opinion,and that includes "One Post" Member #3851. He is entitled to his opinion as well as You or I or Dickhead.Yes the media has had a field day with this and has certainly turned this case into a on going soap opera. I would like to add just a few points.
You are correct about the immediate focus on the two innocent Black Security Guards. That was an Absolute Disgrace. These poor guys were grabbed immediatedly only because boys (Thrash) from well to do families lied about these two guys. This Quasi Dutch Island, claims to be Liberal in all respects, but the reality of it is that their racial bias came glaring through. In the meantime as a result of this Bias & Blunder,all pertinent evidence was lost, because the real culprits were set free.
Dickheads humor, I personally find to be in poor taste,for the simple reason that there is a family going through a great deal of emotional grief, pain and stress because their daughters body is still missing and there is a reasonably good chance that she will never be found. Not to mention that,these boys will go free, ONLY because the Aruban Police Department acted with prejudce and not with good police intellegence.
If I were the father of that girl and I knew jokes were being made about her, in good fun or not,I would be pissed. . .Really Pissed!
The bottom line is that the real victims of this tragedy are Natalee and her family.But on the other hand,let's not forget about these two Black Security Guards.They were victims too! Natalee and her family,victim's of a horrific crime and the two innocent black men , victims of racial bias!

[Macgoo]

FYI, I didn’t find Dickhead’s comments nearly as obnoxious as the US cable media coverage of the events, especially the way they immediately focused on, and condemned two innocent Black men.

Hopefully, at least for the US media and the Aruba authorities, we have learned a valuable lesson; it is not wise to prematurely criticize. I notice that member #3851 has all of one post to his credit, ostensibly for berating a substantive member. No one relishes the loss of life, and certainly this episode tugs at us all. I cannot speak for Dickhead; he is definitely capable of doing that for himself. But, what I can say is that the continual bombardment by the press far exceeds the general interest. It is the media that has converted this tragedy to a circus. Unfortunately, it is the circus and the accompanying atmosphere that causes some, like me, to suspect their motives for coverage. It is not uncommon for one to be amused by the “circus”, so in that context Dickhead’s comments were not so out of line.

[Senor Amable]

Hey Member #3851
I'm with you!
His posting regarding the poor kid from Alabama is really in "Very Poor Taste."
I wonder how he'd feel if that was his daughter.
It's obvious, by his comments, His "Monika" fits his Mentality!

[Nachos7]

I find the Dickhead's post regarding the Alabama girl in Aruba to be obnoxious and in very bad taste. It is a very sad story and the writer, Dickhead doesn't helps the situation.

Enough said.

[Dickhead]

Hey I heard there is a hot young white chica by the name of Natalia or something like that who is working the clubs there now. Speaks good English but has a weird accent. Anybody know anything about that?

[Viper10]

This is my second trip to Aruba. The first time, I was only able to get to San Nicholas one time, and at that it was very late. This time I was determined to get there more often and as often as I could.

I followed the advice of this board, and stopped by the Astoria bar before each venture out to the bars. First of all, let me say Rene is a good guy and very helpful. I was able to take a taxi from the hotels for $40, but was able to negotiate $30 afterward for a ride back. Let me say it is very important to prearrange a taxi to come and get you at a certain time in the morning. The first night, it took me 1 1/2 hours to get a taxi. From Astoria bar, head out the back entrance, hang a right, walk to the end of the street, take a right, and walk straight for a block or two. After the bank, the street will curve to the left, and you will hit the Carribean bar.

At the Carribean bar, there were four girls. In my experience, most bars had anywhere from 4-8 girls. Copacabana had the most girls, while Bonga bar had the nicest. Pretty much each bar had at least one girl with silicone, and all had different shapes and sizes. Prices started at 75 florins, which is roughly $40. Price was pretty stable, but some went down to 35 and even one to $30.

In all, I had a complete blast. I spent my time with the girls with the fake rack, which I have an addiction for. Aruba has it all, gambling, sun, beach, and then ladies in the night. The only problem was the 35 minute cab ride to San Nicholas, but it went quick. I liked the fact that in each bar I went to, there was more girls than guys. That means in each bar, there was usually less than 4 guys.

When you first see San Nicholas, it seems like a deserted town, but when you open the door to the 20+ bars, there are action in each. I was very suprised on the talent of girls, ranging from 6's to 9's. I was expected much lower quality. If you want girls at a lower price, go there during the day, where the girl's prices are much lower. The only key is to remember to arrange that taxi ahead of time so you won't get stuck there.

I have the number to a guy called Candy Man, who acts as a taxi and also brings the girls out to the guys in Palm Beach who don't want to take the ride. PM me if you want his number. Overall, I would definitely make this trip again, and this time add travel to Curacao to visit the famous Campo Allegre.

Viper

[Buzz00]

Contanza,

If you knew what I do for a living then you would not make a comment like that - but more then that I do not as I have said want to spend my hard earned dollars where an American school kid has most probably been murdered, and covered up because one of the suspects is the son of a high ranking Dutch justice official.

If the blame could have been put on the 2 hotel guards I am sure it would have been done.

I am also very aware of the Abc's being top diving destinations with pristine beaches, but this will not make me want to go there any sooner.

There are places in this world much more dangerous then Aruba, but I can't help but notice when something as disasterly as murder, perpetrated by, I can only assume by 3 good for nothing punks including a 17 year old who thinks that he can get away with it and I will say it one more time, this is not a place I want to spend my tourist / monger / whatever dollars.

[Holden Caulfield]

Actually it is very safe. You now have heard of one story of a problem there. And all you know is a sound bite or two on the news. If that scares you out of going somewhere I don't know how you will ever leave your home.

Aruba is pretty weak on P4P but it is very safe and beautiful.

[Buzz00]

kdog what did you say about safety?

it would seem that it is not so safe after all but then again who really cares about a lone high school graduate that that was most probably raped and murdered by 3 morons and are being protected by a corrupt officials.

i guess it pays to be the son of a high ranking goverment official, you can get away with murder, kidnapping and who is really going to give a shit.

i have always eyed aruba as a pristine diving destination with a little p4p on the side, but i am damned if i am going to spend my hard earned dollars travelling to an island that reeks of corrupt goverment officials and as the girls mom says, a cover up.

[Kdog]

I have a couple of tips. If you're visiting Aruba mainly for P4P, I would suggest staying at or near the Renaissance Hotel. It's only about 15 minutes from San Nicholaas. The other resort hotels are more like 30 minutes away. You could stay in San Nicholaas, but there's not much else that's interesting other than the bars.

Aruba is a good destination for those who want safety, like Colombian women, want US touches (restaurants, interent access, ATM machines with US cash, US currency accepted, people speak English, etc), and want other activities during the day/night (water activities, gambling, etc). It's not a good destination for people who want to have a unique experience, to meet non-pros, or to meet a large quantity of beautiful women. It's better to go to South America for that.

One thing I hated about Aruba was the women were all programmed to play the same game. They try to get you to buy them wine, get money for the Jukebox, and they all have the same prices/policies for the rooms. It just got a little boring for me after the first visit.

On the bright side, there were a few real beauties there and for a half hour in the room, the price was about right ($40).

[Weezin Geezer]

Aruba is a great destination for sun, sand, and sea. Definitely set up for the vacationing tourist. Fine hotels and restaurants abound. Lots of shops are willing to separate you from your money. Multiple excursions on land or sea offer opportunities for adventure.

The mongering venue is in the town of San Nicolas at the southeast end of the island. Take the L1 bus for $2.00 round trip. Last return run is at 2300; don?t miss it. Taxi?s may be few and far between and expensive after that hour. Charlie?s Bar on Main Street is a great place to stop and get your bearings. They have good food, friendly staff, and a relaxed atmosphere. Main Street from Charlie?s to the east has multiple little bars. Not being a drinking party animal, they were a little intimidating to me. Now I was there during the week and weekends may be different, but they seemed quiet with closed doors and even in some cases you had to ring in. Not exactly the open, full on, loud, beer bars of Thailand. During the day some of the girls sit behind the rusty gates of these establishments on the sleazy back streets. My ideal is 45 kilo, small breasts, flat tummy, tight little ass, English speaking, and talented in the art of ego stroking. That is a rare commodity anywhere but especially in San Nicolas. Did find one 8 on the scale. Most are fat ass, flabby tummy, Spanish only, professionals. Turned out this place was not my cup of tea.

[Baelzar]

Visited for a week, April 21-28. I knew what to expect, having stopped there on a cruise last December; my friend did not. What a surprise for him, heh.

We didn't make the San Nicolas hotel arrangements, so didn't know what to expect. We were very, very lucky to have found the best place on our first try. The Astoria Hotel and Restaurant was simply perfect. The rooms are clean and inexpensive (USD $65-$70/night), the food was a goddamned miracle, and the bars (yep, two of them, one inside and one out) were easily the best stocked on the island. Jaegermeister? Johnny Walker Blue? Just try to find it anywhere else. We looked.

The best part was the company; say hello to Rene, Harold and Michael for me. Rene and Harold own the establishment, and while Rene serves generous drinks, Harold slaves in the kitchen. I can't say enough about them, really. A bunch of great Dutchmen in a fine place. http://www.astoriaruba.com/

Now, on to the good stuff.

If you've never been, here's the situation: There are several bars in a small area, all within short walking distance of each other. If you get lost, head towards the refinery (you can see it for miles with it's smokestacks and gas flame) and you'll be there. "Main Street." We rented a vehicle (surprisingly reasonable price with Thrifty) so were able to scoot around at will. I recommend it.

What these bars do is import women from South America, primarily Colombians, a few Venezuelans and a very few Peruvians. They get a special work visa for three months, then they cannot return to Aruba for an entire year. Most of the girls only do it once to raise American money, then they're gone for good. A lot of them are college bound.

While the bars on Main Street may look wildly different, it doesn't dictate the quality of the girls. The girls don't get to choose. The point is, go to all of the bars up and down the street and check out all the girls before making choices. You won't have to make an effort; simply walk in and sit down, order a drink, and you'll have new friends. A simple "No, gracias" will send them away...but...why would you wanna do that?

Some of the bars have A/C, some don't, but all of them have an incredibly loud jukebox with mostly latin tunes. Just call one of the girls over to help you figure out what to play. They'll be happy to help.

The bars vary on their closing times. Some close at 1AM, some at 5AM. However, this doesn't matter at all, because every single bar has a BACK DOOR, which is where to make the good deals after closing time. The girls hang around in these hallways fronted by a locked gate, and you can walk right up and say howdy. It's kinda like visiting your sister in jail. Your very cute, willing sister. The prices tend to be more reasonable after closing, because the girls don't have to pay the bar for the room when the boss is gone.

I won't bother mentioning names of girls; if you want a few, PM me.

Suggestions: If you are polite to these girls, they will respond in kind, both inside and outside the bedroom. Believe it or not, I made more instant girlfriends with a pack of Orbit gum than by flashing money. They also enjoy dancing. A lot. When they pick a tune on the juke, take them for a twirl. Buy them some "vino" (they'll ask, since it's the only drink they make any money on) and sit down with them.

It may sound silly, but any experienced monger will tell you it pays off in spades. Be polite, be generous....word will travel fast that you are one of the "good ones."

I will post more on this thread as I think of it. Feel free to ask questions.

[Love Seeker]

Hello All,

I have made two trips to the Dominican Republic in the last 18 months. I have decided to try something new. I will be in Aruba from May 30 – June 5. I will be looking for a girl that can “suck a golf ball through 10 foot of garden hose.”

I am traveling alone and would like to hook-up with like minded mongers. Please PM if you will be in Aruba at the same time.

Love Seeker

[X-man]

Thanks for all the info. I will take your advice and try and find a cheaper way to san nicolas I won't be able to rent a car so I guess a bus ride is in order or maybe I can make a deal with a cab driver. I also will try to see if there is any street action near the hotels or on the beach. have not heard or any action on the beaches or near the hotel except escort services.