Port-au-Prince

[Member #4351]

I and many of my friends do not think like you.

The difference is, I was there during that time. I remember how things were and have seen how things are, so I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you and your friends. Kind of like the way we (the U.S.) has bettered things "democratically" in Iraq and elsewhere.

[Charles Pooter]

How I long for the happy days when Baby Doc was still in power before the USA brought "Democracy" to Haiti.

I and many of my friends do not think like you.

[Member #4351]

The problem is that there are a bunch of NGO feminazis just waiting to pounce on any organized mongering venue to, as we say in Spanish: "Llevar agua para su molino". BB has discovered this for himself. So the Haitians are deprived of guys helping them out and are stuck with the NGO and U. N. workers. How I long for the happy days when Baby Doc was still in power before the USA brought "Democracy" to Haiti.

[Charles Pooter]

I would much rather go to Haiti than Sosua in spite of all the NGO and U. N. parasites who have taken over the country. But the lack of any kind of transportation, reasonable GF hotel or even restaurants makes this a difficult endeavor.

I and many of my friends think like you.

[Member #4351]

It really needs someone to start a monger hotel like you did to be the nucleus of a trend. But if you, with your great knowledge of the country and good reputation, did not find that a viable proposition, who else is likely to do it?

I would much rather go to Haiti than Sosua in spite of all the NGO and U. N. parasites who have taken over the country. But the lack of any kind of transportation, reasonable GF hotel or even restaurants makes this a difficult endeavor.

[Charles Pooter]

The Haitian girls in the dr are hardened pros.

A handful are in red light areas like Sosua and Boca Chica. The overwhelming majority are not.

Get a real girl in Haiti.

In theory, the best option. But it just not going to happen. How many guys reading and participating in the DR section on this or any other board are going to holiday in Haiti? Less than one in a thousand. Marc Antony has explained why in his post below. It really needs someone to start a monger hotel like you did to be the nucleus of a trend. But if you, with your great knowledge of the country and good reputation, did not find that a viable proposition, who else is likely to do it?

And until that happens there are thousands of haitianas in the DR for those who are interested.

In Santo Domingo they are setting up sting operations. In Sosua the police are setting up false arrests for anything and everything.They are extorting money from the visitors. The DR is no longer monger friendly. Their tourist officials are starting to kill the only business the Dominican Republic has and that is the girls.

This is very sloppy writing like from some gutter-press publication in the States. Fourth-hand information that has got exaggerated with each retelling. I keep closely in touch with the Sosua scene from ex-pat friends there and regular repeat visitors. In fact one of them was at my house on Wednesday telling me how life in Sosua has improved lately with a lot of the lowlifes being cracked down on. Guys are still enjoying their trips and some regular visitors report their best trip ever. Prices have not changed, allowing for inflation.

As for scams and stings, the only innocent victims I have heard about are a few motorists held up at checkpoints and asked for a propina. Nothing bad has ever happened to those who refuse to pay. Everybody else who has got into more serious trouble has brought it on themselves, drunk, looking for drugs, abusing chicas, associating with known lowlifes, etc. Idiots like that would come to grief anywhere they went, Thailand, the States, Haiti, or wherever.

Anyone who use normal common sense can still have a great and economical holiday on the North Coast with minimal risk of problems. Certainly less risk than in Haiti, even though I am one who agrees with you that the dangers of visiting Haiti are wildly exaggerated.

Santo Domingo I cannot speak for, but I would never recommend it to inexperienced mongers or those without Spanish. It may be as you say there.

[BadBear2000]

A German friend of mine that has been living in the DR most of his adult life says they are setting up sting operations just like in the good old USA. I know many of you guys save your money all year just to have a good time but let's think what would happen if you had a ticket home but the police delayed you and you missed your flight. Now you have to buy a new ticket with money you don't have. So now you have to get someone to send you money but because you get back late. You lose your job. The Haitian girls in the dr are hardened pros. Get a real girl in Haitian. They are more affectionate and less demanding than the crazy girls in the dr

[Member #4716]

I have picked them up everywhere but when you say how much did I pay them to fuck, I never did. If I had sex with them or in some cases if I did not I gave them gifts. Try not to treat them like Hoes. If you pick up a pro, she will do like all the business people in Haiti and that is get as much as possible.

But also to let you know I found the perfect babe and we are happily married. I don't even go trolling anymore. I am basically on here now to give advice because I love Haiti and want the visitors to come. If you get lucky and find a wife I really feel like I have succeeded.

In the states, you take a lady out to dinner, to movies, to concerts, and then to bed. Here you meet them and just take them to bed. Either way you are going to spend the money so why not spend it where it will help her?

Hello Badbear2000,

I have been following your posts. Do you still have the maison? Would it be available for me to monger in when I visit? Merci. P. S. Love the photos and congrats on finding a wife.

[FightSport]

I have been in PaP like 20 years ago. But would not go there in these days. Back in days everything was wicked cheap there (women and boose).

[Charles Pooter]

I prefer hatianas because they are sweeter than dominicanas. I don't know if it is the way they are brought up; or what the reason is for it. But they are sweeter and on average better people.

Those familiar with my posts will know that I totally agree (so long as we are talking about averages as there are obviously many, many exceptions both ways). And there are other reasons to prefer them. The point I made about language was only a minor additional reason.

As for "why", I have many theories and I don't want to start WWIII here by expounding them.

[Ellington]

People always ask me why I prefer haitianas but it took years for one of the reasons to dawn on me. That additional reason was that the haitianas spoke Spanish simply and slowly, so that, although their Spanish was as bad, or worse, than mine, I could understand them a lot easier than dominicanas.

People with little or no education themselves just don't get the concept of different languages, so if they are not getting through they tend to raise their voices, lose their tempers and speak faster, or use over-simplified doggerel which is even harder to understand.

Of course there are some haitianas who speak Spanish fluently, but they are usually the ones I don't want to meet. If they have been in the DR long enough to perfect their Dominican Spanish they have had time to pick up all the other nasty tricks and attitudes.

I prefer hatianas because they are sweeter than dominicanas. I don't know if it is the way they are brought up; or what the reason is for it. But they are sweeter and on average better people.

[Charles Pooter]

I had a Haitian gf in the DR that spoke excellent french but I didn't speak any so we got along in bad spanish.

People always ask me why I prefer haitianas but it took years for one of the reasons to dawn on me. That additional reason was that the haitianas spoke Spanish simply and slowly, so that, although their Spanish was as bad, or worse, than mine, I could understand them a lot easier than dominicanas.

People with little or no education themselves just don't get the concept of different languages, so if they are not getting through they tend to raise their voices, lose their tempers and speak faster, or use over-simplified doggerel which is even harder to understand.

Of course there are some haitianas who speak Spanish fluently, but they are usually the ones I don't want to meet. If they have been in the DR long enough to perfect their Dominican Spanish they have had time to pick up all the other nasty tricks and attitudes.

[Charles Pooter]

Most people would advise you to first go to the DR and learn a lot rather than just showing up in the airport. You can do that in Santo Domingo and get along OK but in POP it would be quite an adventure and not necessarily in a good sense.

Agree, as ever, with your general advice but this last part is a bit unclear. I assume you mean:

Most people would advise you to first go to the DR and learn a lot rather than just showing up in the airport in Port-au-Prince. You can do that in Santo Domingo and get along OK, but in Port-au-Prince it would be quite an adventure, and not necessarily in the good sense.

There are always board members in Sosua and Puerto Plata who would be happy to introduce BigMrJ to haitianas (and maybe in Santo Domingo and Boca Chica too?). And of course there are many very dark-skinned dominicanas too whom he could charm with his fluent Spanish.

[Marc Anthony]

Speaking spanish is also a huge advantage in the DR and even with Haitian girls in the DR who are all learning spanish by immersion unlike their sisters back across the border who just speak Kreyol (only the elite in Haiti speak french, most girls you would deal with can't speak french either).

I had a Haitian gf in the DR that spoke excellent french but I didn't speak any so we got along in bad spanish. From experience speaking spanish will be of great help with Haitian girls in the DR but little help in Haiti itself.

[Marc Anthony]

Lately I've been craving brown sugar bad and Haiti looks like the place where I can clear up my jungle fever. I've mongered in Mexico before and it's way too easy since I speak spanish fluently. Anyway, I'm a bit intimidated by going to haiti since I don't speak creole or french for that matter. So, can anyone answer my questions to the best out their ability and I'll kindley return the favor.

1. What is the average cost for sexual services?

2. Are there brothels, gogo bars, strip clubs etc. In haiti?

3. When is the best time to go?

4. How much money should I take?

5. Are most hotels "guest" friendly?

6. Where is most of the action in Prince?

Please help and thank you.

If you have never been to the Dominican Republic you should start there. Read and participate on the DR forum. There are loads of Haitian girls in the DR and it's far easier to travel and get along in the DR without special knowledge or connections. You will also pick up info and contacts with people who know Haiti should you ever want to travel there.

Haiti is generally much more expensive and chaotic for travelers. It really doesn't have brothels, gogo bars, strip clubs outside of a few in Pettionville that cater to UN and NGO guys and hence have rather high prices. Most people would advise you to first go to the DR and learn a lot rather than just showing up in the airport. You can do that in Santo Domingo and get along OK but in POP it would be quite an adventure and not necessarily in a good sense.