Port-au-Prince

[BadBear2000]

I am looking at returning Feb 2009 but do not know exactly when at this time as when I go, it will be forever. Then you will get regular pics every week.

Ok guys! What about some pictures? I want to see some haitian hootties.

[Papi0170]

Ok guys! What about some pictures? I want to see some haitian hootties.

[Member #4351]

Yeah, the first time I ever saw the porn video with the nun and the donkey was at Biblos. They would have a female impersonator lip sync also and then strip to the unpleasant falsyless ending. You know, we probably knew each other by sight. Small world and I am looking forward to meeting you upon my return to "Haiti ma ma cheri mwe".

[BadBear2000]

I went many afternoons. Remember the girls would shower outside and I would go around and drink Prestige beer and watch those beautiful bodies. They always showered with their panties on. We would visit every chance we had and on the weekend nights we would go up to Biblos. I know you remember that. There was where all the Dominican girls would show up around 10 PM and there were a few that would put on the show. Around 11 PM they would start saying Showtime in 10 minutes. After about 2 hours they would say Showtime Now. And it would be a show. If you had a birthday and the girls knew it they would get you out on the floor and start trying to undress you while they are rubbing all over you. I heard there were times before the local churches started complaining they would actual give the guy a BJ on stage. I was never that lucky. If you left with a girl before show time you would have to pay $10 I think. If you waited until after showtime was over I think you paid $3 or $5 to take a girl home. If you got there early there was no cover but if you got there late there was a $3 cover. Once the girls got to know you they would tell you to go outside and wait. They would find you or if they needed a ride you may get the pleasure of taking several to there house which was the guy who owned the club. Many times I would be driving down Delmas while the girls in the rear wear rubbing my back and whispering into my ear and the girls in the front were rubbing on Mr Happy. And I guarantee he was VEEEEEEERRRY Happy. And yes there was no crime. Reagon's biggest mistake in office. He ran Bebe Doc off when he should have killed his wife or gave her to me because she was a hottie.

Yes Bad Bear, thanks for the waves of nostalgia. In case some of you guys think I must be an old geezer...I was a teenager in the baby doc days, hahaha. All you say is true. I loved visiting those houses with the Dominicans. They were ocean side, you would sit at table in a kind of outdoor courtyard with the girls rooms on all sides. You could dance merengue..get a bite to eat and obviously drink. I don´t know if you ever went in the afternoon. All the girls would be fixing themselves up...hair in curlers.

There was a casino there that Myer Lansky had set up after being booted from Cuba. All mafia guys who pulled tens from the deck (I got 86´d when I asked for a new deck of cards). They used to go to Ibo Beach on Sundays.

No crime. You could walk around with dollar bills hanging out of your pockets and nothing would happen. Justice was swift and effective. I once saw some guy who had made the mistake of robbing a camera, the police went at him with their clubs. If they didn´t kill him, they came close to it. Of course the U.S. in its wisdom stepped in in the name of "democracy" and screwed everything up. Elections in countries with little or no education nor history of voting is a recipe for disaster (Haiti, Iraq, Gaza, etc.)

[Member #4351]

Yes Bad Bear, thanks for the waves of nostalgia. In case some of you guys think I must be an old geezer...I was a teenager in the baby doc days, hahaha. All you say is true. I loved visiting those houses with the Dominicans. They were ocean side, you would sit at table in a kind of outdoor courtyard with the girls rooms on all sides. You could dance merengue..get a bite to eat and obviously drink. I don´t know if you ever went in the afternoon. All the girls would be fixing themselves up...hair in curlers.

There was a casino there that Myer Lansky had set up after being booted from Cuba. All mafia guys who pulled tens from the deck (I got 86´d when I asked for a new deck of cards). They used to go to Ibo Beach on Sundays.

No crime. You could walk around with dollar bills hanging out of your pockets and nothing would happen. Justice was swift and effective. I once saw some guy who had made the mistake of robbing a camera, the police went at him with their clubs. If they didn´t kill him, they came close to it. Of course the U.S. in its wisdom stepped in in the name of "democracy" and screwed everything up. Elections in countries with little or no education nor history of voting is a recipe for disaster (Haiti, Iraq, Gaza, etc.)

[Taurus1]

Bad Bear, about to be conned in DR or in Haiti is a matter of experience and sometimes you need balls. In DR I am experienced, they cannot con me, with the right people I am generous and normally on long run it pays out. What is true is that crime has increased a lot during the last 5 years in DR. At the time before you could find beautiful haitianas in pequeno Haiti in Santo Domingo, nowadays is a no-go area. When I went to Haiti through Malpaso border by guagua, I went there with motoconcho and wanted to follow by the truck that was waiting there full of passengers. The customs officials was in a scam with a guy with a Suv wanted me to go to PAP for 50 US$. They did'nt let the truck leave until I had gone with the special car. At first I did'nt understand the scam do everybody had to wait for 2 hours, than I said I would walkto PAP and went on the way. Then the truck went on and they picked me up. The strange thing for us is that the locals did'nt get upset against the scammers and maybe also against me. I don't know Haiti so good but it is likely to be overpriced there, because there is not so many offer of hotels appartments and restaurants. Food generally is also more expensive. In Haiti really you have to know somebody who knows the ropes.

[BadBear2000]

[QUOTE=David_33]Thanks for putting life into the Haiti thread. You mentioned that you have been there since Baby Doc was around. Do you remember the choo choo train restaurant on the way to the airport? Some German guy owned it and delivered the orders on a model train.

I set up a factory there in the late 1970´s. Went to all the Dominican ***** houses (and cuter Haitian) places out near the casino...(can´t remember the district´s name, its been so long).

Le Lambi for dancing...Ibo Beach and Ibo Lele hotel...anyway I imagine that ALL has changed, including places to stay. It appears that beheadings and kidnappings have diminished and maybe I should brush up on my creole and make a trip back this year.

Thanks again for the excellent posts and photos
My answers:

I remember the train but it has been gone for many years. Ibo Beach was burned and never reopened. Ibo Lele (sp) is still up on the mountain. The UN is using it and I do not know if there are rooms to rent at this time.
Courefoure (sp) is the place where all the houses use to be. Casa Blanca, Fiesta, Washington Bar and Hotel, Copa Cabana. The Copa is still there but the place is dead. Mostly Haitian guys hang out there and the Dominican Girls are of low quality. Most of the Dominican Girls are up in Petionville at the clubs there. They are run like the houses in the DR now which made me sway toward the Haitian girls. They want $100 or more to dake the girls out. I think the only business they get are the local drug dealers, which has dwindled since Aristide has left, and business men on expense accounts coming in to Haiti. To me, it is better to get a local that you find attractive and take her. She is not too greedy and may stay the entire time you are there. They love to be taught. Also, if it has been a long time since you were there, you will be amazed at the Haitian girls. Remember how they use to wear long loose dresses and were considered *****s by the locals if they wore shorts or pants during the day. Well, that has changed. They were short dresses or tight pants during the day and short shorts at night. I was amazed on my first trip back after a long absence. The girls are hot and they are not necessarily *****s. They are just everyday girls that you can talk in to bed very easily. Good luck on your visit and let me know. Maybe I will be setup to make it easier for everyone.

I only wish Haiti was the same as before Bebe Doc left and Aristide screwed it up. You had to have lived it to believe it. There use to be house after house with Dominican girls dancing to the music. They lived in little rooms with two beds if you want to call them beds. I prefer cots. You would have a selection of maybe 40 or 50 girls in some of these clubs. You would buy them a beer or 2 and decide which one you wanted. You may even decide to take her back to her for for $15 or $20 and sample it before you took her home for the night, weekend, week, month, year, or forever. I mean some of these babes looked modeling quality. You did not have to pay the house anything. Even if you took them with you. All they had to do was pay their room for the week which I think was $20. At this time, the DR was not much better off than Haiti. As a matter of fact, I think there was more money in Haiti than the DR. I remember one night when there was two that caught my eye and I could not decide so I kiddingly asked them both to go and to my surprise they were tickled. I switched back and forth until the sun was coming up and I think at that time I passed out. Later in the morning, I was awaken by the two with coffee and breakfast in bed. These girls could cook. They told me they wanted me to get my energy back up to see if I could do it again. I may add that I did. I gave them both $25 each and took them home. Two weeks later they showed up at my gate wanting to know if I could do that again. This time I did not last as long but it was good. They got up the next morning, made me breakfast and coffee, fed me, laid me again, and then left without asking for one penny. I was 34 then. I would try again but I don't think at 61 I could go all night.

HAPPY NEW YEAR guys and I hope next year many of you can celebrate New Years Eve with me in Haiti

[BadBear2000]

I could have not said it better. I have traveled from the DR to Haiti and Wapminnin is right about crime in the DR being more than in Haiti. As you cross the border from Haiti to the DR it is amazing how much more you are being conned on the DR side than on the Haitian side. Everyone on the Dominican side is trying to con you. It is true the women are beautiful but I would much rather have a friend with me in the DR than in Haiti. Now, you may say that is because I am more familiar with Haiti. Not true! My ex-wife is Dominican. My son is Half Dominican and I might add that he is very handsome and smart. Which he got both from his mom. Now, don't get me wrong. I love the Dominican Republic. I love the women. But you will find things are different but good in Haiti. Don't just listen to me. Listen to Wapminnin and others like him.

Hey, my suggestion to you if you have more than a week is to fly to the DR spend some time, ride the bus to Haiti, and spend some time there. Then fly back to wherever from Haiti. You can also take that trip in reverse. I once had an old Englishman who had lived in Haiti from 18 years old until he died at 75 years old. He loved the Dominican girls better in Haiti than he did in the DR. He said they were more compassionate and he thought this was true because maybe they were lonely.

If you find someone just go and keep an open mind, lots of charities online based over there good way to meet people. Nice regular local girls.

People are friendly and go out there way to be nice and a few bucks goes a long way to get what you want. You can meet a nice girl for long term too.

Jamaica, Dominican Republic has more crime and you do feel safe in Haiti. Outside port au prince is even safer less people quiet towns.

If you are in port au prince you will find so many women (local) just relax be yourself and have someone that knows the area to get you to and from with no problem.

Want to retire there man.

[Wapminnin]

If you find someone just go and keep an open mind, lots of charities online based over there good way to meet people. Nice regular local girls.

People are friendly and go out there way to be nice and a few bucks goes a long way to get what you want. You can meet a nice girl for long term too.

Jamaica, Dominican Republic has more crime and you do feel safe in Haiti. Outside port au prince is even safer less people quiet towns.

If you are in port au prince you will find so many women (local) just relax be yourself and have someone that knows the area to get you to and from with no problem.

Want to retire there man.

[Wapminnin]

I went last year and I urge people to go. If you can find someone to go and the girls are so nice and friendly especially the non-pros (regular local girls)

Keep an open mind for it is a third world country. You will enjoy the food, music, art, and if you can go outside port-au prince then do so too.

jacmel,
Ill la vache
cap Haitian
port salut
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My best advice is to find someone here or bring a friend that is cool to go with you. you can find a girl that will cook, clean and actually like you for the whole trip. Marrying one is a good option for those looking for a vibrant dark young sweetheart.

[Phallus]

Happy New Year to all you lucky guys in Haiti and all you horny guys wanting to go to Haiti.

And a happy new year to you too BadBear!

Your past posts and photographic show-n-tell's have inspired me (& I am sure other members) that one day soon I must visit Haiti to sample first hand the wonders you have presented to the forum.

Cheers & enjoy '09.

P.

[BadBear2000]

Happy New Year to all you lucky guys in Haiti and all you horny guys wanting to go to Haiti.

[BadBear2000]

We will have very good quality pics of the girls with as much info as we are allowed to have. We are not allowed by law to give contact info as it could be dangerous for the girls as well. We will have translator/guides which in most cases will be of the weaker sex. We already have one very pretty girl that will be helping us that speaks very good English and French. It will take us a while but when we finish it will be a first class sight. It should be up and running before the summer months.

Depending on just what you end up providing, this could be a valuable service. I travel more in Eastern Europe, where there are lots of "dating" and "marriage" web-site that allow you to connect to girls for various purposes, including straight P4P. I don't see those kinds of services available in the Caribbean. The nearest substitute seems to be social networking sites, like Facebook or Hi5, but I find those very low-yield.

So a "foreign dating" site would be a valuable way to connect with willing chicas. I guess one challenge is that many of the "most motivated" girls do not have easy access to computers, so you may have to include central computer access in your business model. In the early days (a couple of years ago) many Russian dating/marriage agencies made internet access available in their offices for girls who had none. Some also took good quality photos or videos. This sounds like more than you are planning to take on, but is a great way to bridge the gap between mongers with no in-country experience or contacts and chicas with no way to connect to foreigners.

Maybe a middle ground would be to allow chicas to post their profiles and photos along with their cell phone # (for direct calls or SMS)(this is assuming girls have better access to cell phones than to computers - I don't know if this is true). Most "dating services" don't permit this, because they want to collect a toll on providing the contact information, but if that is not your business model, then providing essentially a "free classified ad" section, like craigslist, would be a great way to go.

I understand you see your core business as providing airport transfers, apartment/hotel connections, etc. You should add translators/guides to that list of services. This actually helps on two fronts. First, most guys and especially business visitors could use a translator/guide and may be able to business-expense them. And if that guide happens to be a lovely chica who is either willing to add in extra personal services or help the lonely traveller to connect with lovely locals, then all the better!

A few years ago an escort service in Kiev started offering apartments rentals and airport pick-ups including an escort girl. They don't do this anymore, as prices went up and service went down, but it was a very attractive model - an apartment rental (again, possibly expensed) with girl provided and rotated on a daily basis if desired.

Anyway, I suggest you check out some of the EE web sites, which have been down this path before you. Probably none of them are precisely in the same business you envision, but they may have some elements that related to your proposed business.

www.luckylovers.net (genuine east/west introduction/dating service with real girls and not too many pros, but probably many girls could be induced into short term relationships)

www.elenasmodels.com (Russian dating/bride service, relatively reputable)

www.date.ru (mixed real dating with direct P4P solicitation and lots in between, but primarily aimed at Russians, not foreigners)

www.rusdosug.com (straight prostitution site, probably not relevant to your model but interesting because they give contact information without requiring users to pay anything - I don't understand their business model, unless the girls are paying, which would be unusual.

Many Russian dating and marriage sites are really just scams, with fake or insincere profiles just intended to sell memberships/contact credits or other products (sending "your girl" flowers or gift baskets - yeah, right). The thing that distinguishes the legitimate from the scammers is the ease of directly contacting the girls.

Anyway, I hope this lengthy treatise on foreign dating sites is of some use in developing your own ideas.

Good luck!

[Gentleman Travel]

I... I have no intention of pimping any girl. In Haiti, they do their own thing. All we are going to do is Show pics of girls that are looking for a husband, girls that are looking for some guys that will pay them for their company, and some girls that just want to be dined and wined. A Pimp in Haiti would not do too well as most of the girls are willing to give it up for nothing. We want to provide a safe trip to the hotel from the airport, suggest restaurants, provide you with transportation, and help with the girls just to jump start a relation...

Depending on just what you end up providing, this could be a valuable service. I travel more in Eastern Europe, where there are lots of "dating" and "marriage" web-site that allow you to connect to girls for various purposes, including straight P4P. I don't see those kinds of services available in the Caribbean. The nearest substitute seems to be social networking sites, like Facebook or Hi5, but I find those very low-yield.

So a "foreign dating" site would be a valuable way to connect with willing chicas. I guess one challenge is that many of the "most motivated" girls do not have easy access to computers, so you may have to include central computer access in your business model. In the early days (a couple of years ago) many Russian dating/marriage agencies made internet access available in their offices for girls who had none. Some also took good quality photos or videos. This sounds like more than you are planning to take on, but is a great way to bridge the gap between mongers with no in-country experience or contacts and chicas with no way to connect to foreigners.

Maybe a middle ground would be to allow chicas to post their profiles and photos along with their cell phone # (for direct calls or SMS)(this is assuming girls have better access to cell phones than to computers - I don't know if this is true). Most "dating services" don't permit this, because they want to collect a toll on providing the contact information, but if that is not your business model, then providing essentially a "free classified ad" section, like craigslist, would be a great way to go.

I understand you see your core business as providing airport transfers, apartment/hotel connections, etc. You should add translators/guides to that list of services. This actually helps on two fronts. First, most guys and especially business visitors could use a translator/guide and may be able to business-expense them. And if that guide happens to be a lovely chica who is either willing to add in extra personal services or help the lonely traveller to connect with lovely locals, then all the better!

A few years ago an escort service in Kiev started offering apartments rentals and airport pick-ups including an escort girl. They don't do this anymore, as prices went up and service went down, but it was a very attractive model - an apartment rental (again, possibly expensed) with girl provided and rotated on a daily basis if desired.

Anyway, I suggest you check out some of the EE web sites, which have been down this path before you. Probably none of them are precisely in the same business you envision, but they may have some elements that related to your proposed business.

www.luckylovers.net (genuine east/west introduction/dating service with real girls and not too many pros, but probably many girls could be induced into short term relationships)

www.elenasmodels.com (Russian dating/bride service, relatively reputable)

www.date.ru (mixed real dating with direct P4P solicitation and lots in between, but primarily aimed at Russians, not foreigners)

www.rusdosug.com (straight prostitution site, probably not relevant to your model but interesting because they give contact information without requiring users to pay anything - I don't understand their business model, unless the girls are paying, which would be unusual.

Many Russian dating and marriage sites are really just scams, with fake or insincere profiles just intended to sell memberships/contact credits or other products (sending "your girl" flowers or gift baskets - yeah, right). The thing that distinguishes the legitimate from the scammers is the ease of directly contacting the girls.

Anyway, I hope this lengthy treatise on foreign dating sites is of some use in developing your own ideas.

Good luck!

[Arainmain]

As they say in Creole; "Belle cheve pa largent"..pretty hair is not money.

Them also say "pale franse pa di lespri pou sa". but I prefer when they they say w dous papa, bam li du!"