Fortaleza

[Tomb]

Prices haven't changed much from August, then. All-night as opposed to short-time really depends on how much the girl "likes" you, the prices aren't any different. Short-time is usually 3-4 hours. Read my Fortaleza report a few pages back for more practical details of Fortaleza girls, but for the most part, "all-night" means that they grab the bus to go home around 6-7AM. They often have kids at home that have to be taken care of, so that explains why the early exit. Nevertheless, if there is mutual interest, setting up a LT is pretty easy to do, just give a few reals tip and pay for a cab or whatever.

Tom B.

[Paolino]

was there 1 month ago and did not pay more than 50R for an allnighter and the girls were amongst the best looking around the place (i mean the area around Cafe del Mar, Africa and Desigual). you must not say yes to any price, if you look ok 50R or even less is current rate. If you really want to be charitable then tip her 10 or 20 more when she leaves and only if the job was done well.

have good fun!
Paolino

[bubbagump69]

What are the current rates n Fortaleza for short time and all night. Also, can u take a SW into the nicer Hotels. lik Caesar.

[Tomb]

paolino:

Your questions would fit under the "other areas" thread in this forum.

Campo Grande and Cuiaba are both relatively small cities (a few hundred thousand pop), nothing special. They're both the kinds of places that girls get away from to go work in Rio and Sao Paulo. I dont' know the "scene" in either, as I was 12 years old when I went to both. But, if you're not specifically interestedin doing something else nearby (visit the Pantanal, Bonito, or the Chapada Guimaraes), then I wouldn't make the trip there.

Tell us about Sabrina in Fortaleza! Inquiring minds want to know... ;-)


Tom B.

[Paolino]

Hi Tomb,

i am looking for reports about Campo Grande and Cuiaba, but there are no links here for these cities. Asked Jackson by email how to, but got no answer. Can you tell me how to create a Campo Grande link? do you know something about those cities? i mean about the "business"...

tanks alot man!

[Tomb]

Paolino:

I was kidding about the pregnancy! No, I can't remember any Sabri/Sabrina. Why do you ask anyway? You know there are a LOT of pros in Fortal and the chances of mehaving "met" one you were with is pretty slim....

As for prices, I was paying R$40 in August (it was about US$15 then) and telling girls to take a hike at R$50. The very top girls wanted R$100, whichis fine, but I had my hands full already. All in all, excellent prices, but it's quite a haul to get there (at least from the States), so don't go there to be cheap. The main advantage of going there, besides more bang for your buck, is being able to go up the coast to one of the paradisical beaches with one or two great girls in tow... Like you di dto Canoa Quebrada.

As for price inflation, the problem is not Americans, Canadians or Brits (the main readers of this board, I think), but Italians and Germans. The city is over-run with them becuase they have direct flights. And the girls know that they can take advantage of them. As always, if you get quoted a ridicualous price (above R$50 for most girls, above $R200 for the models), just walk. There are plenty of fish in the sea....

Tom B.

[Paolino]

Tomb,

no she aint pregnant, at least i dont think so. her name was Sabri and she has a lighter skin, very pretty girl and she she looked less "obvious" than the usual pros.

Another thing: Guys, try not to pay more than 50 if you look average and not more than 100Rs if you dont look that good....i mean this place is one of the cheapest around so PLEEEEZE do not to inflate prices up to Rio levels.

tanks alot

[Tomb]

Paolino:

Yeah, that pretty much describes Lu. Cute girl.

I had a lengthy series of posts on this forum about Ceara girls in relation to others (with a german guy, DG). Scroll down to find it, but basically we agreed that in general, Ceara girls ain't as pretty as further south. My theory is that is becuase there is more Portuguese and Indian influence and less black, so the girls don't have the full spectrum of brazilian beauty, but who knows? However, there are more than enough "diamonds in the rough" in Fortaleza to keep you busy. Just because the average is well, average, doesn't mean that you can't look for and get the best. As for mullatas and black girls, Salvador is the heart of the African influence in brazil, it is probably the most African city in the Americas, so if that's your preference, iSalvador is definitely the palce to go. Personally, I'm always more interested in attitude rather than a specific look, so there are great girls anywhere you go...

A girl named "S"? Hmm, let's see, I was with a "Suzy", but not in Fortaleza. In Fortal the only name I *remember*, besides Lu(ciana), is Maria Villani... f- 'em and forget 'em, I'm such a dog.... actually I'm just lousy with names. Why do you ask? (is she pregnant?!? hehehehe). Tell me her name (email if you want) and what she looks like and I might remember.

Cheers,

Tom B.

[Paolino]

Tomb,

is Lu the "dark blonde" receptionist with maybe 2 or 3 kilos in excess? well, i liked her but as i only was there for 2 days (the rest i spent in Canoa Quebrada i did not have the opportunity to make more of it.
Talking about business, how do you find the "mulatas" from Ceara? I never was in Bahia, but judging on pictures i saw i think bahianas are more african type with a rounder face and thicker lips (yummmm!). Cearenses have a thinner face and look less attractive than those i saw in pics (but, it was only pics...). maybe you can tell me more about that.
Just curiosity: did you "meet" a girl with the name starting with S in Fortaleza?

[Tomb]

Paolino:

Thanks for the props, glad you had fun! How's Lu at Marina Praia doing? ;-)

I'm also glad that you piked up on my main philosophy: treat people right and good things will come your way - waiters, cabbies, girls, receptionists... it's all good. Also, as you saw, it's pretty hard NOT to get hooked up in Fortaleza - my own reports were not more any more comprehensive because I was pretty "busy" from day zero....

Welcome back to reality! hehhehehehe

Tom B.

[Paolino]

Yo Tomb,
came back from Fortaleza yesterday and i must say that your big report about the city was pretty correct. Here are some more things:
- I found the "hot spot" around Africa, Cafe del Mar pretty dead on the sole saturday i was in Fortaleza city, i dont know if it was because of some national celebration or what.
- On every other day i liked moving with the flow of girls that mainly moved from Africa to Cafe del Mar (or O Porto which i did not like cuz it looks a bit shabby inside), and ended up in Desigual. Never went inside Desigual cuz i always found mine before so i did not think necessary to get more drunk and less "performant".
- Before the night you can try the beach promenade in on praia do Meireless/Nautico; you will see some girls in the beach bars, but prepare to move your head sideways from left to right cuz you will get assaulted by sellers of every kind.
- A good thing to try is to make friend with a garcon in one of these beach bars so he will chat up with some of the girls that go suntanning on the Meireless beach; sometimes it works but make sure youßll get like 3 or 4 phone numbers to end up in a real rendez-vous cuz many girls from "good family" will not appear at all....so fill your address book.
- Try to go to the Centro and make some eye contact with the girls working in the box-shops; i tried once and got some positive feedback, but as i was already with my cutie at that time i did not manage a rdv). It is worth trying, and besides you will pay much less for shopping there than near the beach. Take a moto taxi 3-4 Rs to there if you like extreme sports!
- I made friends at one of the first beach bars on Meireless and they took me one night at a place called New Scalibu on the beginning of Praia do Futuro; 20 girls, some 7-8, 20 bucks a pop.....but here comes the shit: coming in at 10pm we were the only customers inside, no music, and all the girls sitting in front of a small television watching a telenovela. Fucking about 30 minutes (negotiable to 45 minutes! wow!) was upstairs in one of the rooms which i did not even want to imagine. Anyway, we returned to Iracema after 1 beer and no fuck. But it is worth the trip if you like decadence and a real dirty ambient.
- About the hotels: first i was in Hotel Casa da Praia which has good matresses, cheap price, good service, individual safe in the room and a very cute receptionist in the morning. Charge 10Rs per guest. Moved to Hotel Marina Praia on Meireless and found them pretty friendly, good service, same price level. A good thing is that the reception remembers you and reaches your key even before you tell them your room number (not like in some big hotels where anyone can ask for the key of your room; may sound a bit paranoid but i hear strange things in spanish hotels...)
- Went with my cutie to praia Canoa Quebrada, about 2 1/2 hours by car from Fortaleza; it is really worth the visit. Nice beach, good food, good vibes from the ragga brothaz, and some garotas of course. The place is a big surrealistic at night cuz it looks a bit like a western scenario; the main street is called Broadway and it is a sandy/dust strip that crosses the village from the center to its east end, with bars and boates on the left and right everyone playing its own type of music. Try bar Todo Mundo, from there you get a nice view on the hot spot of the place. I saw even the receptionist of the pousada i was (Pousada California) hanging around that spot. I could only recommend this place for the weekends which are less agitated in Fortaleza; it is very small but i think if you are alone there you will get your pop for cheap and for sure. Did not try it though, cuz i was with my girl.

Another thing: i dont wanna sound boring or moralistic, but do not treat the girls like shit cuz many of them dont do it cuz "they like it" like some say. Sure brazilian girls are very good in bed, but many of the girls i was with only do it cuz they have a child to support or cuz they want to meet the gringo that could get them out of Brasil. This is not a preach, it is only being a bit gentle and show some respect.

[Subaculture]

Heh guys,
Maybe you could post a pic or two, and let the public decide on whether the girls from Fortaleza are hot or not!!

SC

[Tomb]

DG:

I'm not disagreeing with you - the average Cearense girl is much how you described in looks, fashion, and behaviour. But Fortaleza is big enough that you can easily find girls that are well above average. Also, many of the girls that are visiting Fortaleza from down south have come with their female friends are are on the prowl themselves... Then again, I speak portuguese fluently, so that helps a lot.

And I was much, much less "active" than you were during my trip to Fortal - only 5 girls and some clubbing around. Then again, I wasn't in Fortal purely for 'mongering, so I wasn't able to properly dedicate myself to the task! ;-) So that's why I was "lucky" - pure happenstance. As for oral skills, your informal "survey" seems to be correct - for me one girl was outstanding, three were average, and one was no good. All sans condom, for what it's worth.

[DG69]

Hi Johan,

obviously our American friend has an other taste as I. But you asked about butts, I can asure you and Tomb if you are objective you will agree, the butts of the Hookers in Fortaleza are not as fabulous like their colombian sisters. Also they has a awful kind of fashion their, the most hookers wear that hip troussers, which is pretty if the girl is slim and tall and have a wesp waist. All that the average Fortalezian girl don't have.
Of course you can find there pretty girls for example in the Pirata disco on Mondays, on Mucuripe Disco on Weekends on Dragao do Mar at every evening, but that are mostly Brasilian Tourists from the South, from Rio, SP or Minas Gerais or the local upper and middle class Ladies. If you want pickup such a girl than it's help when you speak Portugese, can dance the local dance (like Fohor), if you are pretty and rich. If you have not all of them than it will be not more so easy or you need a lot of time before you get laid.
The most Hookers in the disco Desigual, Africa, Cafe do Mar, Zip, etc. are ethnically from that Indio type without much european influence and they have usually IMHO a flat ass, small hips and a round belly like a man with a beer belly. Of course I'm very fastidiously, maybe too fastidiously and you can also find 7's and 8's maybe sometimes two or three 9's Hookers in that places. But if you are a butt lover than it's not the right place for you.
Nevertheless Fortaleza is a very nice place for vacation and the Hookers there are cheap and mostly very friendly girls, the climate is one of the best in the world, it's relatively safe there and the food and the drings are very good.
Tomb if I understand you right, you have with every girl whose you had there anal sex? You must be born under a lucky star. I was in the last 2 years 3 times in Fortaleza. Everytime 3 - 4 weeks. I guess I have slept there with about 30 Hookers and I usually ask before I take them what service they provide, often I reject a girl if she provide no Anal sex. I was there with friends and of course at the day after, we share our experiences, like the girls in Desigual too. I usually rent a private apartment when I'm there and so I know also many expats there, so I can say I know a little the hooker szene in Fortaleza and what they provide and what not. Not all make Anal sex, many girls don't like it and do it only for more money or if they like you very much, or they simple don't do it at all.
BJ are not to important for me, usually I don't ask for and I never force a woman to do that, especially because I don't like to do cunilingus by a hooker too. If she offer a BJ I enjoy it of course, mostly I have sex without a BJ their. From my friends whose like BJ I know that their performance is not the best in the world.

OK, thats all for today!

DG

[Tomb]

I disagree with our German friend on relative beauty of nordestinas, you can find 8-9 with no problem, Rarer than Rio, but cheaper too,about 1/2 price. But he is right, the real native cearensa from the backlands is not much too look at. Ethnically, they are a mix of portuguese and Indian, they don't have much black blood to make them beautiful, poor girls... Still, there is enough variety in Fortaleza to keep you more than satisfied.

As for girls that are "completa" or that give BBJJ, all the girls that I was with did both, but that's ahrdly a statistical sample! ;-)

Tom B.