Fortaleza

[Tomb]

poturu:

I hear many good things about the non-pro action in Cali, Columbia, although I've never been there. Generally, anywhere that you go and can be charming and reasonably generous will getyou all the non-pro action you can handle. Of course, you need more TIME with a non-pro than a pro, so 10 day s may be a problem.. in other words, even in S.A., most girls don't give out on the first date. Also, in general, I'd go to a smaller city rather than a huge city, just because there is less competition, and a less afleunt area of the country becuase they will be more appreciative of your "generosity". So, in Brazil, head for the Northeast - Recife, Fortaleza, Acaraju, Joao Pessoa, Natal, Salvador, and any smaller towns up and down the coast that you want to visit.

Good Luck!

Tom B.

[Tomb]

Jose:

Absolutely, if you are going to spend a few days straight in Fortaleza (I didn't), then an apartment is the way to go, especially if you are going to "party". The only advice I can think of giving is to make sure and get one in the Meirelles or Aldeota areas, as they are closest to the "action." If you don't have a place picked out already, get a "Flat" (fully furnished short-term rental apartment) along Av. Abolicao. Check out http://www.flatshop.com.br/residence.htm - they are a booking service, but you can call any of the flats they list directly (you'll have to hunt around on the Internet a bit for the numbers) - BTW their general Fortaleza page has some good pics, including one that gives you a good idea of what Praia do Futuro is like. January is high season, so you will be better off getting reservations made well in advance. Otherwise, you could just walk around Mierelles untill you find what you like.

I'll have some pictures on CD next week, but only of the non-pros I was with - too "occupied" when I was with the working girls. But I'll post them anyhow.

You've pretty much outlined my next "dream" vacation - grab a like-minded buddy or two (to share expenses and swap war stories), fly to Fortaleza, rent a big flat, stock it with booze and b*tches, and laissez les bon temps roller!

Have a blast and keep us posted...

Tom B.

[Jose Marcia]

Tomb,

Thanks for posting your trip report in such a detail. I also live in New York. I, along with a friend from Atlanta, have plans for a trip to Fortaleza this January. This will be my fourth trip to Brazil and the first to Fortaleza. I am certain that your post will help me a lot during my trip. I will be renting an apartment as I found it better way for mongering activity. What do think?

How about posting some photos of the girls that you met during your trip? If not, Please email me at Jose425@hotmail.com We can swap some photos. Thanks again for so much valuable info.

[Tomb]

suba:

I flew. Do NOOOOOOOT take the bus. After 12 hours you will be cursing yourself, and your parents for having begotten you. Rio to Fortaleza is about the same distance as New York City to Mexico City (Paris to Bagdad if you are Euro-centric). Salvador to Fortaleza is about the same as NYC to Orlando, Florida. No thanks. I don't care how comfy the bus is (the "Leito" busses can be comfy, but pricey, almost as much as the plane), 20 hours in a rolling tin can is still hell. Do yourself a favor, fly. (For a contrarian view, read this: http://www.bootsnall.com/cgi-bin/gt/...salvador.shtml . I suspect that the guy is short and masochistic.)

Assuming that you are still in the US or Europe and haven't bought your air tickets yet, here's what I did..... I bought a round-trip ticket NYC-Fortaleza from Varig, which cost me about $70 more than a NYC-Sao Paulo (or NYC-Rio) ticket. NYC-Fortaleza means flying all the way to Sampa and then almost 1/2 the way back again (Sampa is Brazil's main air hub). However, what you can do is take an indefinite *layover* in Sao Paulo, and take the shuttle flight ($75, give or take $25) to Rio or fly off to anywhere else in the south of Brazil, and then come back to Sampa later and "continue" your international flight. Works great. However, if this is not an option, then your best bet is to contact a Brazilian travel agency and have them arrange the trip for you - domestic air tickets are usually cheaper when purchased IN Brazil. Also Sampa-Fortaleza may be significantly cheaper than Rio-Fortaleza, so you might want to hop over there first. The cheapest ticket you can find is fine, but avoid TAM airlines... TAM's Fokker 100 planes have a nasty habit of falling out of the sky at the rate of one a week... their AirBusses are OK. If you want to visit any other cities in the Nordeste (you mentioned Salvador) on your way to Fortaleza, then a Brazil Airpass is definitely your best bet. Save up your cash and buy it (you can only buy it outside of Brazil).

OK, if you are staying long-term in Brazil (several months), and you are on a budget, then the bus won't kill you, just make you miserable. Break the trip up in several stages over a week or so, try and stick to overnight busses, take plenty of blankets AND A PILLOW (very important, to wedge into corners and make the seat more comfortable), and pack yourself a bag of road food/drink. Take sleeping pills if you are not good at dozing off in lousy conditions. The buses from Rio, Sampa, or Salvador to Fortaleza do not go along the coast (look at a map) but dead straight throughthe sertao - a huge scrubland desert. I think you'd be better off going Rio-Vitoria, Vitoria-Salvador, Salvador-Recife, Recife-Natal, Natal-Fortaleza, but to each his own....

Whatever you do, have fun!

Tom B.

[Subaculture]

Hi Tom,
I hope to get to Fortaleza in January 2003, but the trip from Rio by bus looks daunting (55 hours). Did you take the bus or fly. I believe the airline Gol is good value at about R 258 to salvador and getting to F from there (20 hours/ $55). Still a hell of a journey!

Originally posted by tomb
Fortaleza was GREAT. It's a hell of long trip, but definitely worth it. I'm going to try and write up a punter's guide in this post, and I'll be happy to answer any questions as best I can.

Tom B.

[Tomb]

fortaleza was great. it's a hell of long trip, but definitely worth it. i'm going to try and write up a punter's guide in this post, and i'll be happy to answer any questions as best i can.

fortaleza is the state capital of ceara state, in northeastern brazil, home of some of the most beautiful beatiful beaches in the country. the city itself has enough, tourist-wise to keep you occupied for a few days, but otherwise is just a jumping-off point to the paradise spots up and down the coast. if you have the time, you can easily hook yourself up with a honey or two in fortal, and then take them with you to canoa quebrada, or lagoinha, or jeri for a few days for fun and a nice "gf experience". back to fortaleza itself, the tourist/rich area is the three-mile stretch of beachfront condos, hotels, bars, restuarants, clubs and beach! from mucuripe on the east (rightside as you face the ocean) across meirelles in the middle to iracema on the west. btw - pronunciation - mucuripe=moo-coo-ree-[CodeWord134], meirelles=mee-rell-ees, and iracema=ee-ra-seh-mah. outside of this strip, the only other area worth visiting is praia do futuro, about two miles away to the south-east, which is the best beach in fortal and is lined with mega-beach cabanas/clubs - imagine club med for daytrippers and you get the idea (a couple of good nightspots too, depending on the night of the week - more on that later). behind meirelles (the middle of the beachfront strip), their are a few rich nieghborhoods (tons of tall condos), centered on the aldeota mall. other than this, fortaleza is essentially one large slum which you'll want to avoid.... yes, i'm making a terrible generalization (and i had a great afternoon at the public market next to "downtown"), but we're not really interested in sight-seeing and i'm writing a broad overview. overall, the beachfront strip has the same look/feel as ipanema in rio, a bit more modern, the beach is narrower, no mountains, more beachfront bars (hooray!), and lots of coconut palms (shade is good, the sun is a killer in fortaleza). as for security (everyone's favorite question), i felt really safe in fortaleza. i had no problem walking around at any hour of the day or night along the bechfront strip and the streets immediately behind it. the area is pretty heavily policed, as this is the tourist area. i stayed in meirelles (right in the middle), so i walked to most everywhere i wanted to go along the strip, i only took cabs when my feet got tired, not due to safety concerns (of course, i like to walk a lot). you definitely want a cab for going outside of this area, if only to avoid getting lost. most of the "poor" areas of town are not really dangerous, but as a tourist you don't know which ones are or are not, so don't risk it, take a cab. there are slums right behind iracema and mucuripe (the two far ends of the beachfront strip) and there are *very* dangerous favelas at both extreme ends of praia do futuro - stay in the middle (it's about 7 miles long), and go by cab. speaking of cabs, a cheap and fun alternative is the "moto-taxi", you ride on the back of a motorbike (with helmet), weaving in and out of traffic, praying fervently. an average taxi ride will cost you three or four bucks (it can add up), but the moto taxi will cost you only a dollar or two - there is no taximeter on a motorcycle, so negotiate the price beforehand. of course, late night, half-drunk, stumbling out of a club, be smart and take a normal cab. the best nightclubs are in iracema, and the most of the "action" tends to happen there too. it's kind of dead during the day, but worth a walk around anyhow, just so you have your bearings at night. a few blocks further west is the dragao do mar cultural center, which usually has some shows and has some nice upscale restaurants and clubs (orbitas is very good). the scene starts happening around sundown, and the "girls" start coming out around 8-9pm. btw, i stayed at hotel marina praia in meirelles, they have a website, they are cheap, friendly and clean, 50 meters off the beach (buit not beachfront which is way too expensive). there are several other small hotels off the beach that are good, jsut walk around. likewise there is hotel brisamar near iracema. not as good as where i was, but a bit cheaper and closer to theiracema action. cost for these places was about $35 a night. on abolicao there are plenty of "flats" - fully outfitted apartments for $40 or $45 a night. generally there is a 3 nuight minimum stay, but you can negotiate. good place to have a "party" ;-)

ok, on to what interests us, the action. things are pretty much as described in previous posts, but i'll give you my views/experiences. the tourist area of fortaleza has a roving band of pros, about 200-300 girls ranging from 1's to 10's, averaging 6-8 that moves around between mierelles and iracema depending on the night and time of night. the girls are all shades and types imaginable, except for oriental. prices are ridiculously cheap, 40-50 reals for all the girls except the fashion models (duno why 3's charge as much as 8's, but i just moved on after hearing the price). the 9/10's are charging 100 reals. at the present exchange rates, that means 13-15 bucks a pop, and 30 for the real high end.... of course, everyting is negotiable, but why not spend a little extra and have an extra-enthusiastic girl? what you do have to negotiate is length of time, usually the going rate is for 3 or 4 hours, but the girls will stay with you all night for the same price if you do a bit of sweet-talking. the night starts out on the street (this is one town where you can pick up decent girls on the street), but not on the beachfront promenade (ave. beira mar/ave jfk, depending which stretch of beach). the cops ahve chased the pros off the beachfront for image reasons and they are now all one block back from the beach (ave abolicao - ah-boh-lee-son). for the most part,the girls are "hanging out" on abolicao from the point behind the othon hotel (the where the street fair is at on the beachfront) on westwards to iracema, from about 8pm to midnightish (slimmer . they are not exactly leaning against lamposts and swinging a purse, but your instincts should be able to detect which girls are the pros - just about every girl you see, except for the ones waiting at the bus-stops. they don't "jump" you, but if you walk up to them and start up a conversation, ("where is there a good bar around here?" etc), they'll be pretty quick about getting to the point. actually just saying "oi" (hi) is enough. you can either cruise the avenue on foot (safe enough) or get a cab to cruise along slowly for you. certain corners are wall-to-wall girls, most noteably the area in front of the "giraffa tour park." there are also a lot of late-night hole-in-the-wall bars along abolicao, the girls usually stop in for refreshments, so if you aren'tthe cruising type, pick a bar and have a few beers till you see what you like. be mindful that abolicao is a "normal" avenue, not a red-light district, so you'll also meet people goign home from work, going out, taking a break from work, etc. nevertheless, any pretty young thing that shows up is probably fair game. as you get closer to the iracema district, there will be more girls, although not neccesarily better quality. (btw, i ran into some working girls in the late afternoon at one of the lunchcounter places in iracema... basically, if you keep your eyes open, you'll always find what you are looking for).

as i noted before, iracema has the clubs. for working girls,there are basically three clubs, and they all move from one to the other as the night goes on. first there is africa's, about two blocks dead inland from the "ponte metallica" pier, at the western end of iracema. the girls start going there around 9-10pm (they can get in free untill 11). all the girls there are pros, i didn't go there but heard (from some of my "dates") that the action there is kind of weak and the street is "better" at that time of night. then, a block east, there is porto bar (or oporto, i forget), which is actually a mix of pros and amateurs and a little more upscale. they are free for girls untill midnight, so that's why the "action" gravitates over there. last, there is the infamous desigual, right on the beach at the eastern edge of iracema (3 blocks from porto bar). there the girls get in free till 2am, so the action reaches a fever-pitch around 1ish and then simmers along all night. however, if you haven't found what you like by 2, then there ain't going to be anything new (and you must be blind!). there will still be some girls on the streets after 2am, but they are mostly desigual rejects, not worth your time... especially as the night wears on. as for the clubs themselves, they are just like regular discotheques - dark and loud, lots of booze, except all the girls are "available." start talking to whatever girl strikes your fancy, buy her a drink (always pays to be a gentleman) , dance with her if you like and then negotiate a price. btw, the drink prices at desigual's and porto are not at all exhorbitant (dunno about africa, but i assume they are ok too), about the same 2-3 reals for a big bottle of beer as anywhere else, ditto for mixed drinks. the entrance fee for guys was 15 or 20 reals (5 or 6 bucks), there was no "exit fee" for leaving with a girl. there is a perfectly good "motel" (village motel) about 3 blocks behind iracema, 30 reals for 3 hours (10 bucks) and the in-room drinks were not overpriced. it's probably your best bet for where to go, no other motels really nearby, and taking a girl back to your hotel is always risky (don't need her to know where you "live", do you?). that's pretty much it as too "how things are done". on a side note, there are girls along the beachfront promenade, but every one i saw or spoke with was a 5 and below (usually waaay below...scary). however, the beach bars stay open late (usually untill the last customer, and are a nice place to have a bit of dinner. if you are eating alone or with a group of guys, you will probably be apporached. for some reason the gals working the beach are much better caliber than there sisters 20 meters away on the sidewalk, go figure. likewise, any good-looking girl alone or with a girlpal hanging out on the beach after about 3pm is a good possibility for a "date." if you are interested, invite her/them for a beer and see what happens. they might not be pros, so don't assume, then again they may be interested in you anyhow, just go with the flow.

a digression, or maybe not, as i wrote up above, it pays to be a gentleman, even with the pros. the local girls are very used to pushy foreigners (especially italians, for whatever reason) flashing money and basically treating them like meat. they'll take the money, but they won't exactly give you a gf experience, or even much enthusiasm. if you've got an attitude, their attitude will be "let's get this over with." however, it costs you next to nothing to be a nice guy, treat all the girls with respect and dignity. ask tehm how they are, where they are from, strike up a conversation, invite them for a drink and a snack, even if you are on your way to a motel with them. they've been standing on the street for hours (or hopping between clubs), and a bowl of "caldo" (soup) or a misto (hot sandwich) is very appreciated. for some reason, all the girls that i was with (pros and non) love campari. i hate the stuff, but let them order themselves a drink (let them drink in the motel too, it's cheap - as long as everyone stays away from the imported whiskeys and chamagne - and it gets them "in the mood"). these girls, for the most part, are very poor, and are turning tricks so they can get a few extra luxuries in their life (or sometimes,unfortuantely just to survive). so give them the few extra luxuries they are looking for. if you go out with them later in the day (a distinct possibility), take them shopping a little. the $20 bucks you'll wind up spending will be amply repaid. the bottom lineis, everyone wants a little caring (ok, so i'm being corny). sure, for you it's about fulfilling your sexual fantasies, and for them it's about the benjamins, but a little caring helps pave the way and make it all much nicer. also, taking the time to have a drink or so with the girl you are interested in will give you a good notion of how your night with her is going to be - generally the girls who were very warm and friendly with me while we were "hanging out" were incredible in bed. on the other hand , a few girls that i initially thought would be great turned out to be cold fish once i was took the tie to talk to them. i didn't bother to go any further than that. admitedly, i speak fluent portuguese, but even without portuguese, you should be able to have some level of interaction (besides sexual). besides which , i wound up spending the night with a few girls "for free" just by bing a nice guy. ok, if you want to be an account, i actually wound up spending about the same amount of money as i did with the pros, once you include food and presents, but it's lots of fun.

back to practical matters, and this is very important. all girls must show their id cards when entering motels, clubs, and/or your hotel. this is to prevent sex with minors (under 18). as has been noted in other posts, do not go on "dates" with minors, it's a good way to wind up in a brazilian jail. all the pros carry their id's and will have no problem showing them to you. ask for them at some point after negotiating a price ("how old are you? can i see your carteira - car-tear-ah?"). check the birthdate (data de nascimento). it's for your protection as much as hers. speaking of which, i saw about a dozen tv's during my stay - hanging out at the same clubs and streetcorners as the regular gals. dunno about you, but no thanks for me! it's actually pretty easy to be fooled - the first one i saw i never would have suspected untill my "date" told me. the tv's were pretty stunning! in fact, that's the easiest way to tell - they are a bit too stunning, to good to be true. also, the average ceara gal is pretty short (5'2") and all the tv's i saw were supiciously tall. not to mention the jaw is a bit too square and you can usually see and adam's apple. however, thanks to the id cards, you don't have to play the guessing game. if the id picture is a guy.... of course, if that is your thang, then have fun! anyway, whatever happens. check id cards! and use a condom.

also, the "normal" club scene. every night of the week there is a "hot" club. piratas on monday..orbitas on thursday...ze do carangueijo (i think) down in praia do futuro on friday. ask around. also, the pro action is kind of dead on saturday and sunday (weekends, most of the customers are out with their regular girlfriends and most of the girls withtheir boyfirends if they've got them). either get yourslef a long-term date on friday or check out the newspaper fo routcall services, and "saunas." there is one gentlemen's club - www.abelle.com.br - dind't try it, but looks good. and kind of dead doesn't mean totally, where there is a will there is a way!
last of all, if you like the girl you just spent the night with (and vice-versa), if you at all went out of your way to be a nice guy, it's pretty easy to set up an longer stay with her. generally al she will want is for you to cover her expenses and maybe a "tip" at the end (the nice way to say tip is an "agrado" - ah-grah-do - a "gratification" - generally $10 or $20 a day, depending on what you all did together). take her to praia do futuro for the day, i saw plenty of "gringos" with stunning locals over there (btw, you won't find any unattached pros over there, the clubs chase them off) . it's fun, the girl makes sure to get you the best food, orders your drinks, plays with you in the surf, slops suntan lotion on you, etc., and then when you are all beached out you head home with her. later on, she won't be at all pissed if you say, "it's been great, see you when i see you" and head back to iracema. up to you. if you really hit it off, invite her over to canoa quebrada, or lagoinha, or jericoacoara for a few days. again, you'll have a great time, and the girls are very easygoing. if you see some other chick you like, they won't be jealous. worse comes to worse, give them a nice tip and a bus ticket back to fortaleza. again, a pratical note, many of these girls have children (the people in ceara have kids very early, 15 or 16 year old mothers is not uncommon). often, that's why they are turning tricks. it's a fact of life, accept it. so the girls may not be able to spend more time with you becuase of their kids. usaully a relative is taking care of the kids during the night, but they may have no other way to take care of them during the day. be upfront about it. ask. offer to help with some "babysitting" money for a relative. use your head. tell her to go home, take care of business, and then meet you later. even so, sometimes practical matters means that she just can't spend more time with you. oh well, move on. (btw, don't go home with her - believe me, it's too grim and will spoil the fantasy - send a taxi to get her, whatever. you gotta be heartless sometimes too).

phew! enough rambling. if you go to fortaleza, have a great time! most of what i wrote, except for site-specific information applies to most anywhere in brazil. remember that there is a lot in brazil besides the working girl action, take the time to open your eyes and live in the place. and use condoms!

tom b.

[ziobello]

Hi, i'm looking for news about Fortaleza

I', traveling there on the 1 nov, alone. Is it safe?

I found in internet many cheap Pousada like Pousada Malu, Porto Belo Praia Hotel... Anybody know them? I think no problem to bring girls in the room (> 18)

What "not to do" or where "not to go" alone in Fortaleza?

Anybody more info?

[Max Gilerg]

Hi Tomb

Try Fortaleza Golden Flat at Beirra Mar. Its a flat service, and they accept girls witd id. in the room. The price level is around 80R$ per night. Check details at www.accorhotels.com.br

Max

[Tomb]

Anybody have any suggestions on girl-friendly, relatively secure hotels in Fortaleza? I don't care where it is (neighborhood), I just don't want any hassles or headaches. Where di you stay, BigEl?

Thanks all,

Tom B.

[Big El]

i had a great time in fortaleza and highly recommend it if you like young, fun creamy brown brazilian girls who will appreciate your hard earned $ a lot more than the girls in rio (don´t get me wrong, i loved some of the rio girls too, but too many of them were all about business). i only spent a few days in fortaleza, spending my nights in praia iracema. the previous postings are accurate and the girls do seem to bar/club hop as the night progresses. like everywhere in brazil, things don´t get happening until late. i found a really fun bar with lots of adorable, young working girls in the area behind piareta club named Oporto bar. the drinks were cheap, the dj played good music and the bevey of honies were up for dancing and having a good time. you can´t beat the prices too, anywhere from 50 - 100 real for the girl for the night. i know that each person has a different experience, maybe i was just fortunate, but the girls i ended up with were hot and up for sex as much as i could handle it.

another place is Africa disco. crowded with girls, but few good looking ones, but they´re there, so if you see one you like don´t hesitate, but you can always just walk around that neighborhood and find another darling. there are many and i´m sure there are other bars i didn´t try.

there are also many women wandering the boardwalk with an occassional girl worth catching your eye (she´ll probably end up at Africa at the end of the night) but i found many of the boardwalk trollers to be older and some looked like they were on drugs.

i also met a couple of girls on the beach and had a great time. it helps to speak portugese, which i don´t, but these girls were up for meeting a foreigner and showed me a good time.

in summary, i highly recommed including fortaleza in your trip to brazil. hope you have as much fun as i did.

[Max Gilerg]

Just came back from Fortaleza :

Desigual and Zips was closed, I dont know if its temporary or permanent.

Found another place called 'Cafe del Mar' in the Iracema area. Pleaty of girls (4-6). Price levels 40-80 R$/night.

Max
Max_Gil@Hotmail.com

[pilot]

Max you are right about Fortaleza, having been there several times all you say is true. However if you get board in the afternoon or early evening I have found some action on Bata Mar in front of Mc Donalds,I sit down at one of the stands across the street and make eye contact with the gatas who walk by.
The thing about Fortaleza is that the real action will not start until 12:00 at night, Also be careful of the girls on the street behind Bata Mar, alot of them are TV"s.

[Max Gilerg]

Hi JW,

I agree with you posting. The 'Mirante' place you mention is Alô Alô Brasil, check my posting below. Just tried it two weeks ago, its between the best I have tried (in Fortaleza!), however its not SP. The place is not good if you go alone.

The price level of the girls you mention is not valid any longer. Desigual girls are now only 60-80R$, even for the best looking ones.

Mucuripe (high class) and Piratas are regular disco's. Africas is a 'putaria'.

Max

[J Wadd]

(This is my initial post for Fortaleza -- it's about 8 months old. While much of this is still useful, please defer to the post by "Max Gilerg" a little below.)

FORTALEZA:

Fortaleza has sort of a confusing scene. It starts at about 9pm, goes 'til dawn, and operates on bar-hop principle. I.e., girls at one place at one time may show up at another later that night.

Soooo, comments such as "this place had X amount of girls, and they were X attractive" don't work as well here as they do in other cities in Brazil.

O.k. -- downtown, starting about 9pm, there are basically two venues: one, a boite (sex-club) and two, an open-terrace bar for working-girls.

The boite is across the street from the large disco "Pirata" (sorry, can't remember its name), and the bar is named "Vip", a few streets away. This area is the large bar-restaurant district on the southern end of the beach.

The boite was lame -- about 10 girls. Vip is o.k., about 30 women, but none very good looking. Prices quoted were about 100 reals. Neither provided rooms.

Boite "Studio Tropical" is another boite way out of town. It's about 25 minutes via cab heading inland. I don't think it's worth the trip. The night I was there it featured about 15 very unexceptional women, the finest of which (and the only one I talked to) asked for 200 reals. No beds on site; must go to a motel.

On the other end of the beach is another small boite: "Sunset." It, as the other two, is lame and not worth your time. 5-7 below average women.

But don't despair...

The main beach promenade, and the large street about one block behind it, are teeming with free-lance girls. Maybe 50-75 on any given night. Many are really good looking. Prices started at about 50 reals. There are many pousadas/quick-time motels in the area.

The best concentration for these girls, in my opinion, were the streets around Sunset boite.

I know many of you avoid street-walkers. This is problematic in Fortaleza -- for many of the girls you see walking the streets in the evening show up at the final meeting-place (the disco I will describe below) at 1:30-2 a.m.

This disco is "Desigual", and is the place where most girls end up at the end of the evening. Indeed, most boites close at midnight, as they know their girls will be taking off to this disco then.

Desigual is a good, packed, low-scale disco on the order of "Help" in Rio. On any given night there're about 150 women -- most (as always) unattractive, but there always seems to be enough honeys to go around.

It's about 10 reals for the entrance, and most girls ask somewhere between 150-200 reals. There are no beds/rooms here, so you must leave with them and go to your hotel (or a sex-motel).

Incidentally, there are a few really big discos that some taxi driver might try to (innocently) convince you are sex-discos, etc. There names are "Muccalippi," "Pirata" and "Africa." As far as I could tell, there are no working girls here.

Pirata, though, might be a good place to orient yourself, as there is a boite across the street, Desigual down the road toward the hotels off the beach, and many free-lancers walking around or sitting in the numerous cafes here.

Lastly, there's a large disco on the high bluff overlooking Fortaleza. The area is called "Mirante," and it's the only disco there. It's a nice place to hang out, and I was assured by my taxi driver that there're working girls here. I didn't go in -- but it looked like it had potential. Give it a try (Max) and tell me.

Happy Hunting,
JWadd

[Max Gilerg]

Just forgot :

Praia do Futuro :

Driving in the south direction out of Fortaleza, you will find Praia do Futuro (Beach of the future....).

The place has several nice seefront bars, worth to visit like Saturday/Sunday afternoon, stay in the sun drink some caipirinhas or beers, but normally with a low amount of pros.

Thursday evening is good as well, places with turist shows, and girls on the street (regular/pros).

Max