Fortaleza

[Kelso1]

Gentlemen,

What Sperto so nicely writes is true not only in Brazil, but in every country in the world. (Even for the part-time window student-girls in Amsterdam!)

So if you meet a pro or a non pro that you want to go serious with. Get her out of there as soon as possible.

And do not fool yourself that a non pro woman would be different.

You can support her, but she can / could still be doing the hustle with her local boyfriend / s when you are not there.

-Do you really want that on your bill?

So again in short:

If you find a girl that you fancy, then buy her a flight ticket to your city with a open return date on a tourist visa.

That way you will be the bull doing her, and she will be in an unfamiliar enviroment, where you have local eyes on your side, controlling the enviroment.

Meaning?

- There will be no milk for the cheapskates. (at least not on your part)

And if she was just playing you and don't want to engage sexually the same way like she did in asia / Southamerica / africa / whateverer. Then send her back.

- All in all a lot cheaper that sending money for nothing.

And if you are lucky and she behave the same in your house / bed as on your vaccation hotel, then you can both be the Bull and also drink the sweet milk that is called the good life.

Regarding what neighbours think about you bringing young girls to your house every 3-6 month?

What do you care about their oppinion? You are not a cow, but a BULL.

So please don't be naive, and please read sperto's true post one more time. Because it happens every day. 24-7.

Regards, Ken Apples

Every now, and then while I skim thru different country threads that I like I see some real good info. Your post fits that bill. I have a Nica that has a Green card. I have been seeing her quite a few trips now. I finally told her to come see me at my home. As you say I offered a open ticket for her return. If the sexo is half as good as in Nicaragua then I will be a happy man.

Yes it is good to be a Bull, and not a Bobo.

[Deux Deux]

Just a deep diving into a hd I found a few photos not posted earlier. From cell-phone, not so good quality.

2 girls, the dark one I have seen working also this year, the "blond" I have not seen since 2006.

Photos from first floor of Cafe del Mar. Praia Iracema. In photo 3 You can see Europa and Bikini Bar in the background.

Both great girls with nice attitude. My opinion.

B

Hi,

The blond girl is Gina, I spent many nights with her back in 2006 and 2007 (my last trip). Have you seen her around recently? I am afraid she is still under my skin.

Thanks,

Deux deux

[Greengo]

Good idea if she is able to obtain one.

It is very difficult for a Brasilian to obtain a travel visa, at least in re: to the US.

US embassy makes it extremely difficult.

Friend of mine did the fiancée visa, I think it gives 90 days to change your mind?

In his case they married and are still together.

Greengo.

Gentlemen,

What Sperto so nicely writes is true not only in Brazil, but in every country in the world. (Even for the part-time window student-girls in Amsterdam!)

So if you meet a pro or a non pro that you want to go serious with. Get her out of there as soon as possible.

And do not fool yourself that a non pro woman would be different.

You can support her, but she can / could still be doing the hustle with her local boyfriend / s when you are not there.

-Do you really want that on your bill?

So again in short:

If you find a girl that you fancy, then buy her a flight ticket to your city with a open return date on a tourist visa.

That way you will be the bull doing her, and she will be in an unfamiliar enviroment, where you have local eyes on your side, controlling the enviroment.

Meaning?

- There will be no milk for the cheapskates. (at least not on your part)

And if she was just playing you and don't want to engage sexually the same way like she did in asia / Southamerica / africa / whateverer. Then send her back.

- All in all a lot cheaper that sending money for nothing.

And if you are lucky and she behave the same in your house / bed as on your vaccation hotel, then you can both be the Bull and also drink the sweet milk that is called the good life.

Regarding what neighbours think about you bringing young girls to your house every 3-6 month?

What do you care about their oppinion? You are not a cow, but a BULL.

So please don't be naive, and please read sperto's true post one more time. Because it happens every day. 24-7.

Regards, Ken Apples

[Sperto]

Are you sure their boy friend were french? There are not many french people going to fortaleza, mostly are italians. And why do you prefer girls with french boyfriends?

Of course I'm sure they were French. You're right about not many French goes to Fortaleza. The far majority are Italians as you says.
Why I prefer girls with French boyfriends? My experience is that French choose beautiful regular girls as girlfriends. Italians rather choose less good-looking GPs as girlfriends. Maybe it's not like this, but this is just my personal experience.

[Sebans]

Having sex with women that are married/engaged with their boyfriends abroad, or working, is very convenient. The boyfriends are just, sugar-daddies or cows to be milked. My favourite girls are actually not the ones with italian boyfriends, but the ones with french boyfriends. At one visit in Fortaleza I had four fuck-friends, all with french boyfriends. Thanks, France.

Are you sure their boy friend were french? There are not many french people going to fortaleza, mostly are italians. And why do you prefer girls with french boyfriends?

[Ken_Apples]

There are thousands of women in Fortaleza with boyfriends abroad. These guys are paying their GF's regulary. They don't have to work in Iracema. They can enjoy life. If they can have fun with a guy that they enjoys they will.

Having sex with women that are married / engaged with their boyfriends abroad, or working, is very convenient. The boyfriends are just, sugar-daddies or cows to be milked. My favourite girls are actually not the ones with italian boyfriends, but the ones with french boyfriends. At one visit in Fortaleza I had four fuck-friends, all with french boyfriends. Thanks, France.

So my advice is: widen your horizons and get laid for free in Fortaleza. Another option would be getting a GF in Fortaleza, support her and let me have a go at her. .

Gentlemen,

What Sperto so nicely writes is true not only in Brazil, but in every country in the world. (Even for the part-time window student-girls in Amsterdam!)

So if you meet a pro or a non pro that you want to go serious with. Get her out of there as soon as possible.

And do not fool yourself that a non pro woman would be different.

You can support her, but she can / could still be doing the hustle with her local boyfriend / s when you are not there.

-Do you really want that on your bill?

So again in short:

If you find a girl that you fancy, then buy her a flight ticket to your city with a open return date on a tourist visa.

That way you will be the bull doing her, and she will be in an unfamiliar enviroment, where you have local eyes on your side, controlling the enviroment.

Meaning?

- There will be no milk for the cheapskates. (at least not on your part)

And if she was just playing you and don't want to engage sexually the same way like she did in asia / Southamerica / africa / whateverer. Then send her back.

- All in all a lot cheaper that sending money for nothing.

And if you are lucky and she behave the same in your house / bed as on your vaccation hotel, then you can both be the Bull and also drink the sweet milk that is called the good life.

Regarding what neighbours think about you bringing young girls to your house every 3-6 month?

What do you care about their oppinion? You are not a cow, but a BULL.

So please don't be naive, and please read sperto's true post one more time. Because it happens every day. 24-7.

Regards, Ken Apples

[Sperto]

Just want to say thanks for all of your contributions sperto. I have traveled and spent a lot of time in brasil. Not as much as you, but my experiences have been pretty much the same as yours. Your posts seem to always be on point and consistent with my experiences particulary in the fort and your favorite spot manaus. Thanks again for looking out for the newbies.

Jerseyajc, thank you for your kind words.

[JerseyAjc]

Just want to say thanks for all of your contributions sperto. I have traveled and spent a lot of time in brasil. Not as much as you, but my experiences have been pretty much the same as yours. Your posts seem to always be on point and consistent with my experiences particulary in the fort and your favorite spot manaus. Thanks again for looking out for the newbies.

I'm reading these stories about bars being closed down in Fortaleza and Policia blitz's checking all the gringos in Iracema etc. No news.

Fortaleza is one of my, let say, five favourite cities in Brazil. I spend a lot of time in Fortaleza every year, partly business and partly (most part) holiday. Fortaleza is excellent. Because of the ho-crossing in Iracema? No?

I always enjoyed Iracema. The night scene. Sitting down at the Reggae bar, have a couple of cheap 600 ml cervejas, watching the street hustlers running around, the pick-pocket guys acting like vultures, the crack-ho's running after gringos, the cigarette guys with their boxes, the vulture-girls on the street calling for clients to their bar / restauarant, the midget on the corner calling for clients and trying to sell his "cheap tickets" to Pirata, the Polícia Militar passing by ignoring all the scum, the brazilian hillbillies passing by in their giant cars with loudspeakers blasting and later on seeing the working girls arriving.

First comes the ugly ones, the chubby girls, built like refrigerators and without no necks and with heads squared like TV's. Then comes the *unmentionable ones, who still manage to fool gringos. Later on comes the hord of normal working pro's. Finally comes the top-class pro's. They enter Forró Mamboo and comes out quicker than I can take a [CodeWord140], hand on hand with a client.

It's not only the pro's that offers the entertainmet. You have the italian old-timers, old guys sitting down for a beer with their friends,"arguing" in italian about god knows what. Later on arrives their young fellow country-men on scooters or in taxis. Quite often getting robbed even before getting out of their taxis.

Iracema is fun, it's entertainment. However if you wan't to buy sexual services, make a good choice. Don't choose one of the hardcore's. Have patient and take your pick very carefully.

I spend a couple of weeks in Fortaleza every year. I get my share of p*ssies, but not mainly in Iracema. The ho-crossing in Iracema means nothing to me.

Fortaleza have much more to offer:

1. The non-pro night scene is very good. Enough said of that part. The less gringos the better. Sorry!

2. Centro. The centro, daytime, is filled with non-pro girl from the suburbs.

3. The beaches. IMO the best place for picking up-pro's at a bargain price or non-pro girls.

4. Your girlfriend.

Maybe option 4 needs an explanation? There are thousands of women in Fortaleza with boyfriends abroad. These guys are paying their GF's regulary. They don't have to work in Iracema. They can enjoy life. If they can have fun with a guy that they enjoys they will.

Having sex with women that are married / engaged with their boyfriends abroad, or working, is very convenient. The boyfriends are just, sugar-daddies or cows to be milked. My favourite girls are actually not the ones with italian boyfriends, but the ones with french boyfriends. At one visit in Fortaleza I had four fuck-friends, all with french boyfriends. Thanks, France.

So my advice is: widen your horizons and get laid for free in Fortaleza. Another option would be getting a GF in Fortaleza, support her and let me have a go at her.

[JerseyAjc]

You can't go wrong following spertos advice in brasil. He is an expert on brasil. We owe much to sperto for his contributions and his education of the innocents. Cudos to you sperto.

I have found it to be much easier, and 50c or 2 reals means nada to me. Been here 6 weeks for work and have had two episode where someone, all drugged out, threatened me. I'm a big guy, very aware of my surroundings and never get toooo drunk. Still, the situation here in fortaleza is very grim and desperate. Lots of beggers, I don't give money away to everyone, other than the cute ladies. But I have found it makes things alot easier and at the end of each day I have a pocket full of change anyway. I certainly don't want to end up in a third world hospital but I always look for the easy way out of any situation.

Both assholes who threatened me backed off when I turned around and faced them down, one I picked up a brick and would have been happy to put him out of his misery. Now I walk into town early and take a cab back home when its later.

Good luck all, and stay safe.

Going to check out a massage place I heard about called 2020 bellisima today. Will report back. Supposed to be full of college girls working.

[JerseyAjc]

I don't post often. I think you must be going to the wrong places and not reading the info available in the forum. Fortaleza has plenty of hot pfp and normal chicks. My ex, an normal chick was gorgeous and the pfp is also quite good in the fort as well. You must not have been to forro mamba, amarzon, barraca boa vida. Cocoa beach or croco beach during you stay. There is plenty of talent around.

I know its not about the money, its about me keeping myself from getting cut or stabbed in the innocent pursuit of the oldest hobby. Nothing I can say, do, give, not do, anything is going to change the sad situation here. Do you think if I don't give up some change they are going to snap to and turn to the path of goodness? I am just taking an easy way out of a shitty situation. I travel all over in the course of my job and have never had a problem like I have here in this shithole fortaleza. Can't wait to sail out of here. And the vast majority of women here in brazil are scary ugly and fat. Very differant to my expectations of brazil. Better safe than stabbed.

Good luck to all.

[JerseyAjc]

It has been about a year since I have been in fortaleza. Forro Mamba if it is still open is usually the place to go at night on most nights for gps or garotas de programa, putas. There is a little bar a few blocks away from forro mamba called zipi that they usually go to early in the night say from 9pm or so til about 11 or 12am. Late night most people are at forro mamba. On Wednesday night amarzon is the place for gps. Don't hold me to the spelling. During the day at the beach you can find some gps at the beach at barraca boa vida. Any taxi will know how to get to all of these places. Good luck hunting.

Hello everybody,

Does anybody has any good suggestions where to find a girl in Forta that gives good blowjobs?

Rgds,

Hans.

[Brazil Specialist]

Just arrived at Fortaleza. Checked some hotels near ground zero. Here a photo of the business cards. I believe the size will be too reduced to see the phone numbers.

Great Hotel for R$ 145 plus 80 for visitor. Ocean view. Medium for about R% 80 plus 30. Crap for R$ 45 or so per night.

Met a bunch of people at 6 am, left over from last night.

If anyone wants to join me, leave your phone in a private message. I will check out some daytime casas, maybe only on Monday and check out the night clubs.

[HansStuurman]

Hello everybody,

Does anybody has any good suggestions where to find a girl in Forta that gives good blowjobs?

Rgds,

Hans.

[HansStuurman]

Update: Unfortunately Amanda doesn't work there anymore. Her colleagues got jealous, and beat her up and kicked her out of the privê. During the two weeks she worked there she got almost all the customers. Younger, cuter, better body and giving just amazing BBBJ's.

I'm happy I had the opportunity to session with her twice.

Hai, anybody knows where I could find Amanda at the moment?

Or any suggestions where I could find a girl in Forta that gives good blowjobs?

[SmoothSailor]

It has been an interesting six weeks here. Lots of women of all types available. I have had some very good looking girls off the street, they are everywhere! Especially after midnite, it seems there is one on every light post one street in from the beach, for miles, hahaa. Plenty of notell hotels here for 10-15r. Thats the way to o as its safe, and the girls know them all or you can find afew you know where they are and bring the girl. Been paying 50-70r for full covered service. No shortage of choice of girls. Just need to be careful walkin around, especially late or if you have had afew drinks. Lot of shady charactors here. I'm not a late night guy and thats when this place really comes to life. But after 9pm the streets are crawling with girls. Nobody speaks any english, but this is the oldest profession and doing the deal isn't hard at all, we have what they want, and they have what we want.

Enjoy, stay safe.

Going to a massage / cathouse called bellisema2020 today. Will post about it later.

Monger on.

Tchau