Natal

[Laroche]

i will spend a week in natal in mid-november. i was wondering if anyone has any recent information regarding bars, or clubs, or ...............any recent info at all would be appreciated.

natal, update october 2008

first of all natal 2008 is not what natal was in 2004 or 2005.

now it is much worse when it comes to prices and quality of nightlife.

natal is not an ideal mongering destination anymore; however it is a very good place for beach holidays and [CodeWord118], only 7 hours flying from lisbon and a good way to enter brazil.

the international tourism is down 50% from that time.

the tourists now are mainly fro italy, holland, portugal and spain. later on they expect some scandinavian but nothing like 3 years ago.

eur = 2,60 real

during this period, due to the financial turmoil, the eur was all the way up to 3,10 but the money changers (big bunch of crooks, you guessed it ) were only giving 2,80 at the most.

count on minus 5% when changing money.

this is a common practice and the second turn off for the tourist, the first one being the long queues at immigration upon arrival.

there are very few atms for international cards outside natal. cash is king

where the action is.

forget the action downtown; it is reserved for portuguese speaking experienced fuck.

the “orla” ( erivan franca st.) is dead.

the action is in the “salsa bar street”, 40 meters to the right south of natal plaza.
well, the salsa bar is gone forever, but everyone remembers it.

walk in there, pass the coco loco. this was an infamous bar with a lot of tourist scams with outrageous bills. now is completely empty; i guess people were realizing they were getting robbed.

100 meters down you arrive to fuso horario which is the center of the street and were everyone is. behind it you have a nice square with 7 or 10 bars. this is imho the best offer in this area; no fees , no hassle, no cards to keep during the night, no scams , open air and enough light to see the many beauties around.

prices are ok: 5 reais for a caipirinha. 3 reais for a beer. imported drinks are more expensive but still ok .

other places nearby:

azucar, ok disco but more expensive.

sancho pub: crazy disco, expensive, too noisy, better to be avoided. rip-offs reported

coco.loco: mentioned before, avoid the place

other places:

la cucaracha: famous temple of the night; open only on sundays and tuesdays. the terrace and bar are excellent and you get the best caipirinhas for only 3,5 reais. very good sevice.

however, due to the lack of tourists it was almost always empty.

casa senzala: beautiful foxes but a rip-off (count on 300 reais and upwards and poor service) watch out, a lot of mafia minded crooks in this brothel. avoid it.

ponta negra overall going rates: 150 reais.

attention ! depending of your age, looks and nationality some girls will ask for 200 or 250 reais. speaking portuguese is a very big advantage.

insist, the rate is 150. some you can even get for 100 for a quickie.

international mongers unite!

be nice to them. if they like you the will take very good care of you, and they will stay all night if you want then to.

where to go?

here we have a problem. the hotels do not allow guests, so the option is the motel.
count on 100 reais more for the taxies, tips, motel fee and drinks.

obviously the best solution is to have an apartment; then you are at home.

scams.

be very careful with minors; avoid them !!!! in brazil **** is under 18 !!!!
if in doubt walk away.

there are some shemales around but they are easy to spot and they will not bother you unless you show interest on them.

bars giving you a card “to record all your drinks” could give you a big bill if you miss it.

police are corrupted and could be bribed if you need to ( drunk driving, not having your papers and passport ), but be very careful if you do not speak portuguese.

best to have your passport with you; at night it is a must.

some rental cars are best to be avoided; one of them is pavel.

safety

ponta negra is safe, although you must not forget your common sense.

enjoy it!

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[Henry R]

I will spend a week in Natal in mid-November. I was wondering if anyone has any recent information regarding bars, or clubs, or crackdowns, or beaches, or hotels, transportation, local contacts etc. There haven't been many postings about this in the last few months. Any recent info at all would be appreciated.

[Magic2000]

Sorry for answer. Here are a few links I've based this on, the last one have much interesting about tourism in Brasil.

http://diariodenatal.dnonline.com.br...5&idmat=174210
http://diariodenatal.dnonline.com.br...2&idmat=166826
http://www.visiteabahia.com.br/noticias.php?id=269

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I also herd from a friend that Thompson that run the cheap flights to Natal are now planning to run a service to Joao Pessoa and this will effect the Natal situation even more in a negative way

All the best, Magic

[Balluba]

I was wondering if you had a weblink for the reports that you mention, I would really like to read them as I am of the same opinion as to what you write, Weblinks for Diario de Natal re the appropriate articles would be great Any other similar weblinks for information re your article that you have read would also be great. Appreciate your help with this, many thanks

Magic 2000

Sorry for answer. Here are a few links I've based this on, the last one have much interesting about tourism in Brasil.

http://diariodenatal.dnonline.com.br...5&idmat=174210
http://diariodenatal.dnonline.com.br...2&idmat=166826
http://www.visiteabahia.com.br/noticias.php?id=269

[Magic2000]

In the period 2005-2007 the number of foreign tourists who visit Natal decreased by 25 percent. The decline appears to continue this year. According to Diario de Natal, in the course of the year's first five months, 40,133 foreign passengers at the airport in Natal, compared with 50,322 passengers in the same period last year.

Local newspaper Diario de Natal writes that the decline has led to more bars and hotels have had to be shut down.

Also in the property is struggling hard to get sold.

The State Secretariat of Tourism, Rio Grande do Norte, have the last month tried to establish new departures fra the US. They have talked to Continental, American Airlines, Delta og United Airlines. All of them with negative answers.

It seems that new US routes will go to other destinations, as Ceara (Fortaleza) and Pernambuco (Recife) are strong candidates to receive new flights for Delta.

Newspapers and television in Europe has swept up PF/MP's many actions in the "sex clubs" looking for minor prostitutes. If they found some are not that secure. But they sell well when they write that "15 Dutch, 7 Swedes, 3 Germans etc. are arrested in sex raids." Their real only "crime" was that the tourists not brought with them their passport.

After mass arrests of criminals Pakistani Norwegians in 2007, using Natal as a place for white washing illegal drug money, it has created an inaccurate picture of tourists in Natal to be either a criminal or a sex tourist.

This has unfortunately led to that some men do not dare admit that they travel on vacation to Brazil in general, Natal in particular.

Balluba

I was wondering if you had a weblink for the reports that you mention, I would really like to read them as I am of the same opinion as to what you write, Weblinks for Diario de Natal re the appropriate articles would be great Any other similar weblinks for information re your article that you have read would also be great. Appreciate your help with this, many thanks

Magic 2000

[Balluba]

In the period 2005-2007 the number of foreign tourists who visit Natal decreased by 25 percent. The decline appears to continue this year. According to Diario de Natal, in the course of the year's first five months, 40,133 foreign passengers at the airport in Natal, compared with 50,322 passengers in the same period last year.

Local newspaper Diario de Natal writes that the decline has led to more bars and hotels have had to be shut down.
Also in the property is struggling hard to get sold.

The State Secretariat of Tourism, Rio Grande do Norte, have the last month tried to establish new departures fra the US. They have talked to Continental, American Airlines, Delta og United Airlines. All of them with negative answers.

It seems that new US routes will go to other destinations, as Ceara (Fortaleza) and Pernambuco (Recife) are strong candidates to receive new flights for Delta.

Newspapers and television in Europe has swept up PF/MP's many actions in the "sex clubs" looking for minor prostitutes. If they found some are not that secure. But they sell well when they write that "15 Dutch, 7 Swedes, 3 Germans etc. are arrested in sex raids." Their real only "crime" was that the tourists not brought with them their passport.

After mass arrests of criminals Pakistani Norwegians in 2007, using Natal as a place for white washing illegal drug money, it has created an inaccurate picture of tourists in Natal to be either a criminal or a sex tourist.

This has unfortunately led to that some men do not dare admit that they travel on vacation to Brazil in general, Natal in particular.

Balluba

[Pearldiver]

@ Jabone:

Please allow some adjustment.

1. The place is called Ponta Negra, not "Puerto Negro".

2. Azucar ("Sugar") is the name of one of the most frequented discos / boites for mongering in Natal and lies in a neighborhood of a collection of bars and restaurants in "Alto de Ponta Negra" ("Upper Ponta Negra") . Although some other hot spots (La Cucaracha, Amiça and the (closed down) Ilha Fantasia) are a only few steps away, the other bars and restauraunts in this area are more like a party zone for Brazilians, with non-pro action.

3. The other club you mentioned might be "SaMSara", running by same owner of Azucar at Rua Doutor Manuel Augusto Bezerra de Araujo 141?

Or do you mean Chaplin's, Av. Café Filho 27 (Praia dos Artistas)?

@ Ganger24:

I dont have much experience in semi/non-pro action, since I prefer Pro's (call me stupid). It seems to me - after years - still slightly more difficult detecting the Piranhas along semi/non-pro's. After a few mistakes (good lessons to learn anyway) I found out that even many non/semi-pro brazilian girls are not only impessively flexible in their hips but also in the art of taking advantage of a situation and pulling as much money out ouf your pocket as they can get for the moment. There is nothing bad on it, they are just good in using opportunities and making the best of it - as they got teached it by their own life to survive.

For myself the rules in Pro/GDP-action are more clearly during a short term stay for vacation

But anyway, if you are looking for semi-pro's, you have to avoid the well known places for GDP-action as above mentioned. You may have more luck in Chaplin's with semi pro's. Otherwise check the bars and restaurants in Alto de Ponta Negra frequented mostly only brazilians where me and my friends allready have hooked up "normal" girls and tooked them for a nice weekend to Pipa, while we just had to pay for accomodation and food.

From time to time also there are open air concerts with brazilian music in downtown Natal - nice pick up's, knowledge of some portuguese phrases will help.

Waing for your report!

Regards,

Pearldiver

[Ganger24]

I am from holland and visit Fortaleza for a few times. Now the direct flights are full for the end of the week. I now maybe want to choose for Natal.

I want to know from people who visited Natal and Fortaleza what is the best for semi-putas, not the hardcore pro's.

[Jabone]

there are a lot of gdp in puerto negro in azucar which is a collection of bars and restaurants. be careful of tv and girls running scams were they claim to be **** and demand more money or they will call the police.

there is also a club close to the by the border of puerto negro and natal centro, but i didn't get the name.

[Laroche]

Can anyone please recommend a 2 bed flat to rent for 2 weeks in Natal, the flat does not need to be girl friendly as I plan to use motels.

Thanks

Magic

Well, I know an excellent one but since I can not give an e-mail here I do not know how to help.

[Magic2000]

Can anyone please recommend a 2 bed flat to rent for 2 weeks in Natal, the flat does not need to be girl friendly as I plan to use motels.

Thanks

Magic

[Mangera]

Beach in Natal.

[Mangera]

I had the impression Natal was a viable alternative for monger activities but judging by the inactivity on this page, maybe not. There's a chance I will be around Natal and/or Recife the beginning of December and have heard of the off-season-carnaval aka Carnatal. Anybody have any experiences they'd like to share? As with my February plans for Rio, I recognize Carnaval is not prime time for a gringo monger in Brasil but hey - that's when I will be there - and that's what I do.

If you stay on the beach of Ponta Negra, there are a couple of cafes that have gdp's from all over the northern portion of Brasil. Usually in the evenning hours. During the day, there are a few around the beach, but you have to have a good eye to pick them out. There is a gentleman who works on the sidewalk on the beach side who sells different tourist items. His name is Jetulho, and he wheres a straw hat, he has long hair, and loves to sing Tom Jones and Elvis P. songs out loud. Sounds nuts, but he really is cool. He knows the locals gdp's that are hanging out on the beach during the day.

Also, there is a night club called Hollywood at the other end of the strip, right across the street from the beach. All of the ladies there are gdp's.

Closer to the downtown area, there are a bunch of bars/restaurants that have a ton of single women, non-pros. Forgot the name of the neighborhood now. You need a taxi to get there, just a 10 minute ride.

There are also a few bars that have a mix of gdp's and non-pros, and one of them has a spanish name, sorry I can not remember the name now. There are plenty of gdps around, but when its all said and done, there is no comparison to Rio as for quantity or quality. A good pousada or hotel to stay where bringing women in will not be a problem, would be the Aquamarina hotel. Some gdp's also hangout there in the afternoon.

Also, the place is loaded with basically all european tourists ( as there are direct flights from europe to Natal) looking for pussy too. I spent two weeks there last year, and I got to know quite a few brasilians, as well a ton of europeans. I did not meet one american in my entire stay. Not at the mall, beach, bars, or anywhere for that matter. Definitely need to speak portuguese or at least some. Just my opinion.

By the way, Natal is a great place to learn how to surf if you always wanted to try it without to much risk. Its a very forgiving place to learn, then move on to Rio, fortaleza or ricife for the big time waves. A definite must are the dune buggy tours. Hope this info. helps. Have fun and stay safe.

[George90]

I had the impression Natal was a viable alternative for monger activities but judging by the inactivity on this page, maybe not.

Many have posted about Natal (in one place or another). Most of the posts I have seen were related to the crackdown by police on uderage prostitution. Natal (and Fortaleza) are popular with Europeans who seem to go after barely legal ones. If you are into women in their 20's, like most of us, then other cities may be better destinations than Natal.

[Delaware Guy]

I had the impression Natal was a viable alternative for monger activities but judging by the inactivity on this page, maybe not. There's a chance I will be around Natal and/or Recife the beginning of December and have heard of the off-season-carnaval aka Carnatal. Anybody have any experiences they'd like to share? As with my February plans for Rio, I recognize Carnaval is not prime time for a gringo monger in Brasil but hey - that's when I will be there - and that's what I do.