Recife

[Vittu]

I was in Recife last week during a brief cruise ship stop. There was available talent -- of the street girl variety -- on the street running along Bom Viagem beach. One girl, young and somewhat unkempt, was stunning wandering around in a haze with bare feet. Again, unless you have some Portuguese, forget it.

[Mkhobby03]

The language thing is becoming a problem. Street girls (hot ones! ) are readily available on avem aguilar, but I just can't pantomine my way into it. My hotel is pretty strict after 9, and for the life me I couldn't figure out how to work the "call you tomorrow line".

Perhaps I'm just a bad monger-correspondent.

Anyway, visited Bamboo last night. Not impressed. Was heading into sampa, but they wanted a 40 real cover because they had some famous porn puta from sao paolo doing a show. Not sure, but it think there was a raffle component.- everyone got a numbered laminated dohickey as they paid cover. Either that, or it was a sort-of tarrif equivalent to what they do in termas. Either way, it screamed clipjoint to me, so I bailed after sticking my head in.

Will say the merchandise I did see (briefly) was outstanding.

The word I got was that oudettes/Cuba cafe is closed. I'll confirm today.

There are several online garota malls for recife, but so far I haven't had luck finding a provider (or agency) that speaks english.

So help a brother out-- if you have a referral for me, PM me the info. I wish there was a monger-central here.

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[Mkhobby03]

Ok, so I'm a damn yank, but I'm just shked how few people speak any english here. German and spanish are nonexistent too.

Anyway, dodn't quite make it to bamboo last night as hoped. Spent the day retracing some of FT's steps however. Started at the beach in front of recife palace. Wasn't sure what to expect, but if garotas de programma gather there, then I'm a blind man. Moved on to his legit massage suggestion (A Flor da Pele). Found it without a problem (big sign) but somewhat sketchy. Theres a car rental place and a bodega on the first floor, but th steps to the second floor were locked and there was no bell. Since www.estheticrelax.com. Br was a block away, I gave it up as a TOFT, and moved on. And I'm glad I did.

ER was bascially a bar with about 11 girls (7 to 9) hanging out. No english, but I met the owner (dutch expat) and it soon became comfortable. Not exactly sportsmens bar in Costa Rica, but pretty dame good. Arranged for a two-fer.- natalie and giovanna.- for an hour. One would massage while the other rode. Good combination if you have the ability to focus. Typical MP setup in the room (shower, table, etc) but the oral was BBJCIM and the massage was damn good. R$ 180 for about 90 minutes. I'm heading back there later tonghit because the owner promises to set me up for a TLN on Sunday (nobody works sundays, apparently).

Gringo lesson for those who care. Never, NEVER wear flipflops for long walks. Thank baby jesus I came prepared with a supply of vicoden. Brutal, brutal blisters.

As I said the street (and beach) scenes were marginal, but it's early yet. If I can keep it u, ninfas is my stop for tonight. If anyone has recent news about oudettes/Cuba cafe, I'd love to hear it.

Bottom line so far is laguage is tougher, prices are about the same, but selection is better than Costa Rica. I'm hopeful I can work out a 48-hour TLN arrangement tomorrow, which will be a first for me.

Recife report MK2

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[Mkhobby03]

First off, let me say that the only saving grace for MIA is the fact it has a smoking area. Ok, ok so it's not THAT bad. My prior international mongering experience being primarily directed to costa rice, I will say there's quite a difference between 9 hours (connecting in salvador) and 3. 5. But 90 and humid sure beats the pants off of the zero degree weather we've been blessed with in Chicago.

Another initial observation.- relatively few people here speak english. And my half-assed spanish only seemed to mkae things worse. I'll be cramming the helpful phrases section for the next few days.

On the hole, the infrastructure here is really quite good. I don't have other places in brazil to compare it to, but my impression is that recife, at least boa viagem and el centro, are pretty clean and safe. Streetights, paved roads, real curbs.- the works. Certainly better than detroit, or the south side of chicago (and much of DC for that matter). They could use some zoning enforcement.- the sidewalks are narrow and there are too many people set up with carts and stands impeding flow.

I was also astounded to note that not once was I hit on by a beggar. My usual MO when I land in the afternoon is to drop my stuff at my hotel and then walk around to get a feel for a place. Early afternoon, I meandered from about the bamboo bar down aguilar to sampa, and then inland towards the shopping center. I didn't see any street providers until it started getting dark. I imagine the numbers grow pretty quickly after 7.

I'm staying at the atlante, like FT before me. It's a pretty nice place. I think the $R 50 thing is them tacking on a double occupany tihing. I'm pretty sure yu can do whatever you want in the daytime, If I go the TLN route, it'll proably be worth it.

A couple of points of general interest. First, my ATT blackberry works just fine.- voice, data, and web. Second, I was astounded by the lack of actual sit-down restaurant bars. Maybe they're off in a different drrection. Third, if you like decent scotch, you'd be well-served to pick up a bottle in the dutyfree. Finally, for the first time anywhere I am picking up no racial tension at all here. Plenty of moxd, but that's inevitable give the demos here.

Tonight I'm basically going to chill and recover from the flight. May hit bamboo, but nothing strenous. If anyone can give me the low-down on the oudette's/Cuba club thing, I'd be grateful. I've checked on gpguia, but can't pin down an address. I like the concept, however.

Well, kind of a lame report as sexcapades go, but I'll do some followup as the trip progresses. Please do PM me with suggeston.- in particular TLNs with god engldh skills.

Later folks!

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[Full Throttle]

As promised, here is a quick review of Recife.

First, semantics. I don't suppose many tourists actually stay in Recife. Rather, we stay in Boa Viagem, which is an 8000 meter section of the beach.

My general impression is favorable, especially given my preconception.

Thanks to Sperto for the head start, which was quite helpful. I tend to disagree a little, though, regarding his assessment that the beach is dirty. In terms of human-debris, the beach is refreshingly clean. The problem they have is the sea bottom. It is more dirt than sand, resulting in narrow, gritty beaches mixed with rock outcroppings. The water is similar to the Pacific Northwest, somewhat dark and greenish in color. This does not necessarily translate to its safety, as the water is supposedly safe to swim in.

The boardwalk is wider than that in Impanema or Copa, and much easier to walk on as they discovered smooth bricks. The kiosks are plentiful and there is no danger of them changing to the annoying new style Nescafe booths now cropping up along Copa. The beers are ice cold and 2R each.

The beach mafia is not as powerful, either. Beers were only 3R from them, and there were many free chairs to be had.

We ate at two restaurants, a churascaria called Ponei, or something one night and a por-kilo place called Chinga Puntaj the next. Both were excellent. The churascaria was better than Carretau in Impanema/ Copa, and priced less. Right now, they have a weekday price of 25R. I chose the sushi-only option for the same price. We were all satisfied. The por-kilo restaurant was very good and $20R would get you as much food as you should eat. Both restaurants were within a block of the beach, one right onit, and within 2 blocks of the hippi market.

I saw no crime or hint of crime while there, but that doesn't mean anything. The people in general were quite pleasant.

While there is a strong contingent of dark girls, there were pretty girls of all color depth. As a free hangout, the beach did have a high number of unfit girls suffering from peasant diets. There were working girls on the sidewalk, many more than Impanema but not as many as Copa. Several were knock-outs.

The first night, we relied on a recommendation from the hotel, and went to a place called "Oda…" I kept the card for 2 days, but now I can't find it. It might be a really good place or it might be a clip joint, I couldn't tell for sure. It was a nice house, in fact referred to as a mansion. When we arrived around 10pm, there were no clients and around 5 girls. Entrance was 25R, and included no consumption. Though the talent was top notch, I decided for the group that we wouldn't enter (after some arguing, they gave me a preview and said that I, not anyone else, would get a free beer). Anyway, it is approximately 5 miles south of Boa Viagem, adding to the cost. There were no facilities on site, but several short-term places nearby.

We next went to Ninfas. The location was much better, only 2K from the south end of the hotel zone. This was also a converted house or apartment setup, and very nice. $20R entry got you 2 beers, subsequent beers $5R. The setup was quite unique. Most of the activity occurred in an indoor-outdoor area surrounding a large swimming pool. A stage where some of the girls performed excellent strip shows was at the far end, and there was room for 1 table down the long sides of the pool. Beyond the sitting area at other end of the pool was entrance into the disco room, where there was a nice bar, comfortable couch seating, a pole, and dancing area.

The talent here was amazing. There were some 8's and 9's to go along with the majority who were 6.5-7.5's.

I spoke to a nice local guy who advised me that the going rate was $300R. A guy in our party took an absolute knockout home for 200R + 50R exit. Then, she needed taxi money in the morning, I heard. As most of you know, I'm rather thrifty in my hobby, but have to admit that these girls were of high quality, similar to the highest priced clubs in Sao Paolo.

At around 2am, we went to the hotel, where everyone else responsibly went to bed. I couldn't let the night go without checking out Bamboo, which was only 3 blocks from my hotel. Again, I was surprised. First, it is a laid back club, with two very different aspects to it. The upstairs area features mostly outdoor seating on a deck in the front of the club. This area is relatively quiet and is populated by European tourists. The bar is owned by the quintessential German Ex-Pat. I met guys from Italy, France, Norway and Germany.

Downstairs was a dark, loud disco with a cramped bar and dance floor. There was a rowdy bunch down here, and it was a fun party. The cool observation was seeing every paired couple making out in the club. That reminded me of Bomboa in Sao Paulo.

The talent here wasn't nearly as good, but there were some viable options. I ended up dancing with a girl I would give a 6-6.5 objectively, and a 7.5 after 12 hours of drinking. She had a hard stomach, a nice smile and was fairly dark. I didn't plan to go with anyone at this stage, but her opening offer, I mean her VERY FIRST offer was 100R. How could I refuse that. How could I even negotiate?

On day 2, we discovered an interesting massage parlor called estheticrelax, www.estheticrelax.com.br. I can't remember if we're restricted from entering phone numbers here. If it ma kes it past muster, it is 3325-5644. The address is R. Petrolina 81. It was extremely clean and had nice rooms, showers, a bar, and real massage tables. When we visited mid-afternoon, there were 4 girls. One was real cute, one pretty good, and two so-so. Hours 10AM-10PM. Price is rather expensive, 150R for the hour. It is much nicer than most of the downtown parlors in Rio, and as nice as the good ones in Sao Paulo. As my little group was noncommittal, we all left.

For those who would like a legitimate, professional massage, I found a place called A Flor da Pele. Address R. Cel. Benedit Chaves 58, 2nd floor. There is a large sign when you get near it. Price is 50R for an hour. I met one of the two masseuses, and was very impressed. My plan for next time is to have a legitimate massage there, then go to 81, which is only several hundred yards away. That will be 2 hours of decadence for 200R. That is, of course, if I don't talk the first one into extra-curricular activities!

Now for some weird stuff… The hotel, Atlante Plaza (I think) is fairly nice. It is officially not girl friendly. However, the security guy will sneak you into the main elevators and escort you to your floor for a tip. He wanted 50R for his trouble. That really pissed me off. I learned this during my interim stop dropping off my wingmen on the first night. I called the extorting security guard every name I could think of. What a STUPID policy. Now, the hotel has unidentified guests in the rooms, we have no guarantee or any evidence that our girl is of legal age and not a known crook. Eventually, I told him that I would be coming back and would pay him 30R, no more. The veiled threat was that I would complain about him to the hotel management and to our corporate travel department for his activities. He agreed.

I also had difficulty with 2 late-night taxi drivers. One refused to use the meter from Bamboo, so I waited for another. The second was wacko, alternating between backing up and turning onto streets that didn't make sense. So, I got out, threw 10R on the seat and walked. My girl found me a block or two away, and walked with me to the hotel. Upon arriving, I gave her my key and told her to walk in like she owned the place. No luck, as they caught her. Eventually, we had our teary goodbyes, and I paid her 60R for her trouble.

Five hours later, at around 10:30, I received a call from the front desk saying "Carla was here to see me." I went down the elevator to find her sitting in the lobby. What a deal that was! In the day, I was able to bring her directly to the room with no problem. I was somewhat more sober and enjoyed the next hour immensely. I would only give her a so-so grade for performance, but the BBBJ was nice and better than any other plans I had for that hour. I paid her an additional 80R. She wanted to stay all day and hang out at the beach, but that didn't sound so great, so I sent her home.


Recife will not supplant Rio as a monger destination. However, there are many worse places to find yourself, and I have a feeling I will find many more interesting venues in time. I would like to hear from Sperto about the non-pro action.

BTW, Darmix, I appreciate the heads up that the legitimate girl scene is good. However, for many, that is a complimentary or supplementary activity, not a replacement. If the girl thinks I'm an idiot for giving her money for screwing her, I can live with that.

FT

[Darmix]

I'm going to Porto De Galinhas in a couple of days, and hope someone can tell me more about the girls there. Anyone with experience from Porto De Galinhas?

Please help me.

There is not any P4P action, not any night club. But it is really nice so.

Why to pay when there are lots of free girls that just enjoy to date Europeans for free?

Please do NOT pay girls there!

Do not waste that angle of paradise.

Enjoy the wonderfull sea, natural piscinas and girls.

Darmix

P.S. If you wish to waste your money with prostitutes just go to Sampa in Recife, 200R$ and you will get girls that after to make sex with you, they will have fun of you and will call you "banana greengo" (=stupid foregin man).

In Recife the average salary is about 420R$/140Euro.

[George90]

I'm going to Porto De Galinhas in a couple of days, and hope someone can tell me more about the girls there. Anyone with experience from Porto De Galinhas?

Please help me.

I have been to Porto de Galinhas. I did not monger there because I brought my own pussy. I did not get the impression that there was a well developed P4P scene in PdG. It is very touristic for Brazilians. Aside from the beach and dune buggy rides, there is not much to do.

I suggest you BYOP as well.

Good luck.

[Oslo71]

I'm going to Porto De Galinhas in a couple of days, and hope someone can tell me more about the girls there. Anyone with experience from Porto De Galinhas?

Please help me.

[George90]

There is another nightclub called ninfas, I haven't been there so far and I am not sure if it is worth going there, because it is not realy close to my hotel.

I have been in Recife and leave tomorrow. I went to Ninfas to check it out but it was closed at a time they said they would be open. I had never heard of it before and thought it was a new club. From the outside it looks fairly new, freshly painted and in good repair. However, its location and surroundings were familiar. I think it is located on the same site as a prior club, that may have been called Club Scandanavia, a swingers' place.

Ninfas advertises itself as a men's club. It has a website (or two). One URL is www.ninfasnightclub.com.br, and another is www.ninfasnightclubrecife.com.br.

The site have profiles of ladies who are available. They seem to want to be very upscale. The entrance fee is $R20. I didn't see any info on other prices for drinks or services.

I am personally going to pass and wait for other mongers to report on Ninfas.

[Cristobal1492]

This is my first report on this board and some more might follow since I am a few more weeks in brazil.

I was in bamboo-bar and sampa nightclub, had some experience with non pro girls here in recife so far.

Bamboo bar: is a nice place to have a beer and probably talk to someone, the girls selection there was rather poor when I have been there.

Sampa nightclub: better girls selection then bamboo bar. I toolk one of them with me to my hotel, which was not a problem, but I think this was just luck, because the guy at the reception was more sleeping then beeing awake.

We had a greate time that night and got a nice BJ the next morning before she left at 9am.

There is another nightclub called ninfas, I haven't been there so far and I am not sure if it is worth going there, because it is not realy close to my hotel.

[George90]

A couple of assumptions, btw. First, that Piedade Beach is not the heart of boa viagem. If I've got that wrong, there are a few more options I culd look at (golden tulip, dorisol recife gran).

You should realize that Piedade is a different city from Recife. It is located to the south of Boa Viagem. I believe there is a hotel/condo called Golden Tulip in the northern part of Piedade not far from the city limits with Recife.

I agree that the club action is not great in Recife. I got my action fom the newspapers. There are lots of ads in the 'acompanhantes' sections of the daily newspapers. It may be hit or miss as to quality, but that is where substantial p4p action can be found.

[Mkhobby03]

So, I'm following up on hotel options. I'd like to stick to the main drag (boa viagem area) and I'd also like to try to use some miles. This limits me somewhat as to hotels, however. It also seems like the hotels change names quite a bit (although that may just be a translation issue on google).

Anyway, here are the ones I'm looking at. If anyone knows *for sure* that the place is not girl-friendly, I'd love to hear. Also, can someone explain the whole single/double thing to me? If I book as a double does that help in the visitor department? Thanks!

Atlante Plaze. Seems very nice. $125/nt

Boa Viagem Praia. Not as nice, but cited as girl friendly in an earlier post. $92/nt

Recife Monte. Looks a tad better that the one above. $102/nt.

Tulip Inn Recife.- a bit off the beach. $94

A couple of assumptions, btw. First, that Piedade Beach is not the heart of boa viagem. If I've got that wrong, there are a few more options I culd look at (golden tulip, dorisol recife gran). Also, I like the international palace location, but I'd have to pay cash instead of miles. Thanks for the suggestion, however. Finally, seems to me there are a host of cheap short-term hotels (I. E. The bamboo & a dozen others seem to be under $40 a night) I could get on the fly if the places on my list are going to turn away the program girls.- and this might be a decent option anyway, in terms of having a fortress of solutude to retire to when needed.

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[Mkhobby03]

Well, thanks for the info.

Anyway, this is my first trip to brazil. I have latin, but no portugese. So I can probably read, but not talk.

One of the reasons I picked recife is that I actually *do* speal german, and it seems a popular destination for the deutche.

Anyway, I'm committed (have nonrefundable ticket for early feb 09) and I'm just trying to scope out the initial ropes.

Seems like there's a "tide" of reports about this place. Good reports alternate with bad.

I'm air-mobile, and I'm not afraid to drive, so if I picked a sub-prime destination I'm happy to get the advice now.

I realize the typical gringo radar is focused on Rio, but this is the way I like to roll. Find the number 3 (or 5, maybe 7) and learn a country first.

My only real doubt is REC vs. Someplace like florinopolis (did I spell that right? ). The whole southern hemisphere season and ethnicity spread thing is throwing me a bit.

Bottom line: I'd like advice about a girl-friendly hotel in the middle of the action, and a frank assessment if I should think about splitting my time (6 days or so) with another NE brazil local.

[Looking For Eden]

I have been to Recife many times in the last few years. I usually stay at the Internacional Palace on Ave. Boa Viagem. There are two of them. The Lucsim one is more expensive, I don't stay there. Also I don't know if they allow guests. Internacional Palace farther down from Lucsim has decent views of the beach and allows guests, no charge. They just have to show id at the front desk. I must say that they do frown upon guests coming back with you at 3-4 am but they allow it and don't charge extra. There are cheaper options farther from the beach but I prefer this place. Room service is decent too.

[Sperto]

Yep',
Time to jumpstart this forum!!
Is there anyone that could provide a detailed overview that would serve as a primer? I PROMISE I'll report on everything I find next month, but would love to get a head start!
FT

IMO Recife is quite an ugly city, with a dirty beach and the lowest standard of the women in the North-East. I have managed to avoid the city the last two years.

* Sampa Night Club isn't very exciting and the girls there are overpriced.
* Bamboo is a dark club. That's good because the women there looks better in the dark.
* Bar Maria Bonita is worth to check out but don't have high expectations.
* The only GP-scene I liked was the street-walkers on Avenida Conselheiro Aguiar. Some really nice GP's working there.
* Non-pro action is quite good.