2003 Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Wango]

Originally posted by Jony Vegas
My last piece of advice - avoid the strip clubs!! I let a friend of mine talk me into going to one again (Barbarellas this time). Nice club, nice management, attractive women, but boring as hell, you have to pay the club 50 reais to leave with a girl, after paying 50 reais to enter the club. Plus, many of the women think they are some goddesses and want between 300-500 reais. Stick with the Termas!!!

Vegas [/i]

Vegas,

I agree with you on girls wanting way too much, I just laugh and tell them that they are crazy. If I like them I will counter offer. In Barbarella, the normal rate for me is at most 200R and the oher clubs, less. You have the right attitude when it comes to negatiations, it's part of the game.

Strip clubs can be lots of fun but then again it's up to you. Looks, personalities goes a long way in the strips clubs but the key is experience. After a while, I go with my instincts to weed out the hardcore garotas and try not to let my little best friend make my decision for me.

The termas in Rio make it easy, especially for newbies who don't speak the lingo but once you decide to head out into the rest of Brazil, the clubs are where most of the action is, especially SP. The problem that I have with the T's is the 40 minutes time constraints and at certain times it's a ***** when you are horny as hell and have to wait a long time for a room.

Once you are comfortable with Rio and learn to speak a few rudamentory words, look for girls from the escort agencies and girls who advertise independently. I know it's difficult because you don't get to see the girl ahead of time but in the end you meet far more part timers and girls with whom you can travel with. Of course you'll get some ugly ones but just pay for their cabs fare and send for another.

[Rio D]

Reply to 'King of Rio' 6-21-03:

I have though about it. I know many of the Brazil police are corrupt, and I have also noticed that most Brazilians are afraid of them and avoid all contact with them, partly to avoid paying bribe money. In the past the police have been known to hassle, shake down, or even attack hookers. Therefore, I believe a *****'s threat to call police is probably a bluff, because they would be calling attention to themselves. I have heard of the 'call the police' threat being used before, but no one has actually told of what happened when they showed up. Everyone is speculating on what would happen, you included.

If a Rio ***** claims that an agreement to pay 200 Reais was really 200 USD, that's not a 'dispute', it's a ripoff. Everyone on Avenida Atlantica - girls, taxi drivers, cops, waiters - know that the going rate for hookers is 150-200 Reais. Switching dollars for Reais is tripling the price, and is way off the market.

Let's say a guy has balls, and refuses to pay the 200 dollars, and the ***** does call police. What's she going to say to them? --- "I'm a *****, and this fool from the Estados Unidos said he would pay me USD 200 for 3 hours of sex, but now he only wants to pay BR 200..." The cops will know that it isn't a legitimate dispute, and that the woman is a thief, because the price is so far out of line. They may look for a payoff from the guy - but if they also make him pay US 200 to the *****, or hassle him, arrest him, whatever - then it means that male tourists are bigger targets in Rio than we think. The man has committed no crime, after all. The cops would be assisting in the hookers' scam.

So, are you saying that we have to watch out for muggers, hustlers, bad hookers, AND corrupt cops as well? Is Rio that hazardous? You say that Rio would 'quickly change from paradise into Hell'. If what you claim is true, then Rio is really Hell in disguise, and we should all stay away.

I know that if a Rio girl tried the 'dollars for Reais' scam on me, there would be a showdown, 'cause the b--tch would NOT get the $200, no matter what she said. I know there is a shortage of 'balls' in this Forum, what with people running scared, asking 'is it safe' all the time. But, can anyone out there tell us what really happens in a case like this? Has anyone faced off with a lying, scamming ***** and called her bluff? What really happens?

[Jony Vegas]

Downunder

Just about every woman in Rio is available for TLN. Go to the disco HELP, or the restaurant outside of HELP, Meia Pattaca, MAB's, Balcony Bar, a strip club, or practically any women dressed sexy walking down Av Atlantica. Depending on what time you pick her up and where you pick her up, etc... and your negotiation skills will dictate the price for TLN. Remember, if you stay in a hotel most will charge you 50-100 reais, even if you booked a double. There are always the escort call services also. But I have never used one because of the all so often bait and switch, they cost more, and all the other options available in Rio you get to see and talk with them first, which is very important to me, since I am very very selective.

BTW, you can get a Terma girl for TLN, but only after she gets off work and without the Terma management knowing. I have done this a few times. I little know fact and something I have never seen posted here is that if a Terma girl does not go into work on a day she is suposed to work, she if fined 150 reais. Most of these girl are required to work 5 or 6 days per week.

I have bit the bullet for a couple sweethearts and we spent a few days and nights together. However personally, I have only done that when she and I hit it off, she was a stunner, a lot of fun, and I did not have to pay her anything but the bar fine, if you will. In other words, she wanted to be with me, so I paid her fine so we could go out for some fun. However, the majority of the girls in termas will not spend the night with a guy.

Hint: Talk with a few girls along the street, at restaurants, in HELP, wherever you want, and get their phone number and tell them you are considering getting together the following evening for TLN. If your a smart negotiator, you can ususally do better on price. However, this being the slow season, these women are wanting more money now. So getting a hottie (9 or 10) for 200 reais TLN is more difficult now, but not impossible. Just work your Downunder magic!!

Vegas

[Cachorro]

Originally posted by downunder
In reguards to Rio- is there any other option to theses Terma's ?? I mean I need TLN, can one get the number of the working girls ?

Dude, do a search in this forum on the word Help. It's a big disco, and you'll find what you're looking for.

Also many websites for escorts, just look in the local press when you get there. Looking back in this forum you'll probably find some website addresses too.

[Double]

"In reguards to Rio- is there any other option to theses Terma's ?? I mean I need TLN, can one get the number of the working girls ?
It appears from the reports here on WSG the strip joints are a rip off and you don't seem to have much in the way of classy indepenents."

Have you looked at the indenpendent ladies on www.escortgirl.br.com? You will find some very classy ladies.

[DownUnder]

In reguards to Rio- is there any other option to theses Terma's ?? I mean I need TLN, can one get the number of the working girls ?
It appears from the reports here on WSG the strip joints are a rip off and you don't seem to have much in the way of classy indepenents.

[LotsaFun]

Originally posted by DocBill449
Hi fellow mongerers!
...
Lastly, I'm thinking of getting an air pass and seeing some other cities (Salvadore?). Is it best to buy that there or here (US)?
...

Airpasses can only be bought outside of Brazil and usually mean flying to several cities on a preplanned iteinerary. Your local travel agent can arrange it for you.

If you're only going to travel fro Rio to Salvadore then buy a ticket. Buying in-country may be cheaper for single round trip tackets. May, I say.
LAGNAF

[Jony Vegas]

Winter season in Rio, means less business for the women. I have noticed quite a few trying to charge more, to make up for the lack in business. Many of the girls have returned to their familes etc... where they are from until their Spring when more visitors means more business.

However, if there are some real bargain hunters out there let me know. I will tell you where you can score 1-2 hours for 80 reais. Some are cute and some are not. I only know from meeting them, but did not sample the goods.

My last piece of advice - avoid the strip clubs!! I let a friend of mine talk me into going to one again (Barbarellas this time). Nice club, nice management, attractive women, but boring as hell, you have to pay the club 50 reais to leave with a girl, after paying 50 reais to enter the club. Plus, many of the women think they are some goddesses and want between 300-500 reais. Stick with the Termas!!!

Vegas

[Jony Vegas]

Terma Update

First, I agree with Almotu, Royal Flush and Gringo Mojado's posts (except Gringo, I personally do not feel Centaraus is the best value for the money).

Anyway, what a difference one month makes, in new faces, prices, etc... In their winter months, it seems that prices have gone up at a few places, or they have cut their specials (i.e. Quatro X Quatro does not have a free entrance fee if you take a girl before 7pm). Most Termas open earlier now, some 2pm and others at 3pm because they are much slower and want to try and get more business. You will see once you enter, you virtually have the palce to yourself, as Aluotu stated. FYI - each of these Termas has an english speaking person at the reception desk.

As of July 1, here is the pricing for each and my overall rating (personal rating system - based on facilities, management, looks of girls, quantity of girls, location, etc...)

**** Solarium - Entrance fee is 50 reais, 40 minutes is 140 reais and 1 hour in the suite is 270 reais. Guys you need to try a suite atleast once, and take 2 girls with you for only 100 reais more. (Note - Sunday's and Wednesday's couple are permitted in, so you pay 90 reais entrance, but that includes one room fee - therefore, as long as you get a girl it does not cost anything more). By the way, I have found that all of the women I have had here make the gretest effort to really please their man. It is located in Jardim Botanico (Rua J J Seadra 21) and is approx. a 12-15 reais taxi ride from Copacabana. Try Catherines restaurant/bar (???) 1/2 block up the street for a beer and to see some non-pro action in evenings.

**** Quatro x Quatro - Entrance fee 30 reais, 40 minutes is 130 reais and 240 reais for 1 hour. This is out of the way, located in Centro (downtown) on Rua Buenos Aires 44 (a pain to get to by taxi during hush hour). Nice facilities and mass quantities of cute women in every shape, size and color. If you can't find something here that makes you salute, you need more than viagra. I enjoy the upbeat atmoshpere here, good music, girls dancing and the best prices. Beers are a bit more expensive than elsewhere, but at 5 reais a bottle, who is complaining.

*** Luomo - Entrance fee is 30 reais but waived if you take a girl to a room, 40 minutes is 140 reais and I have never considered doing 1 hour here so I don't know the price (I have always gotten two different girls for 4o minutes each here). Nicely located in the middle of Copacabana on Rua Sigueira Campos at Rua Barata Ribeiro, in a shopping center upstairs. There seems to always be atleast one stunner there and I find that in aggregate, they have all above average women who enjoy their work. The women are a bit more agggressive, but take no gracefully. Every hour or so a couple girls will individually put on an awesome strip show for everyone. This is a must visit when in Rio.

** Monte Carlo - Entrance fee is 50 reais, 40 minutes is 140 reais. Located on Rua Hilario Gouveia 19. One half block from Av. Atlantica and next to the entrance to Copacabana Hotel. I have not been as impressed with the quality of the women here and probably will not return in the near future. There are always lots of women and very few men here.

* Centaraus - You pay 290 reais to enter the door here, which includes one woman for 40 minutes. Although there are quite a few stunners that work herer, I have found just as good elsewhere. Overpriced in my opiniion and I don't care for management. I have yet to find a reason to return there with so many other wonderful options available. If money is no object and you don't look for value, then you will enjoy this place.

There are a few other Termas I did not make it to or are more local places that I will visit and write about on my next trip.

When I am in these Termas, I always wonder why look for a girl elsewhere? Termas are so much fun with beautiful women that will treat you like a king for a reasonable price. But we all know the answer to the question/dilemna now don't we....

Vegas

[Jony Vegas]

Hobbyists - Sorry I missed you. I left on July 2nd and it was a busy day. My girl left around 10am, I had to go to the beach for a couple hours, pack, then have my driver stop by 4 X 4 on the way to airport and wait for me while I selected my garota du jour. Only in Rio!!

Almotu - Hope you enjoyed Mab's, if you went there. Chingon is 100% correct about the women who hang there (not my favorote pick up joint). However, it is one of the only places that is an open bar on the Av. Atlantica that plays good music.

On a previous trip, I met a girl in Balcony Bar who is very dark complected (strictly amiga) who is always there in the early evenings. She is an ole pro, but very cool also (she has never tried to get a buck out of me). Well, all the newer girls seem to hang near her. And every once in a while a new stunner appears, like last week. Good thing Jony Vegas was at the right place and right time to introduce the sexy 22 year old to Rio American style She was so green, she asked my amiga how much she should charge. My amiga was embarrassed, since we are friends, so I got to name my price with no haggling.

Hint: For those non hard-core mongers, if you read closely you now have an insight into how to get a freebie (or atleast a repeat freebie). Looks and personality DO count!!

Vegas

[Jony Vegas]

DocBill

I just returned from Rio on an Apart-Hotel, Hotel and apartment search (I am moving there for a few months). Go to the Rio De Janiero Hotel board and I can answer any questions you want there. I have names, prices, etc...

The bottom line is, if you only have $60 US dollars to spend, then any regular hotel you stay at will charge you 50-100 reais per night per girl.

Tell me the specific amenities you want and your price range and I can give you many names, numbers, locations, etc... and the best bang for your buck.

I will look for your post in the Rio Hotel section.

Vegas

[Doc Bill]

Well, i didn't check travelocity, there's too much out there. At least I did ok, not much more than what you quoted. Any hotel recommendations, and whether I should stay at Ipanema or Copacabana?

[JustGotBack]

Originally posted by DocBill449
After getting quotes of around a thousand bucks from SF to Rio, I finally booked a flight using Blameitonrio4travel.com. Got it for $685!!! I would still appreciate any hotel recommendations, Ipanema or Copacabana (see post below).

Thanks!

What? Travelocity has had SF-Rio flights for $628 for at least the last few weeks.

[Veinbuster]

Gringo,

Great advice - especially the part about taking a shower and putting my clothes on afterwards. I'd have been lost otherwise!

VB

[Doc Bill]

After getting quotes of around a thousand bucks from SF to Rio, I finally booked a flight using Blameitonrio4travel.com. Got it for $685!!! I would still appreciate any hotel recommendations, Ipanema or Copacabana (see post below).

Thanks!