2005 Sao Paulo Reports

[Wandering Fool]

Alot of those links don't work directly

I have edited my original post (about 3 or 4 messages down from here) so that all the links now work, the links in your quote of my post probably don't work still but my original should be ok.

[DJ FourMoney]

Just wondering for those of you who have seen both -maybe GK and others. How do the WE girls, Madame girls, etc of SP compare to the Termas girls of Rio (who we all generally agree are the hottest of that city and if someone knows of a better place -and don't say Barbarellas-please share).

I've done only Rio trips up to this point. Rio has the beaches the scenery the lower prices, the termas etc however if the girls of SP were noticably better looking, I might do a few days there. I'm always in search of the 9 with the J-lo ass, round but tight.

I realize this may be a loaded question since everyone has their preferences, so let me narrow this down. After extensive research checking the internet sites and reading checking the reviews on that GP Guia site, here are the girls in SP I would line up. This will give you an idea of my definition of hot -tight bodies with great round bunda's. These girls, at least by the photos, look better than many of the Rio girls.

So based on this look, I'm wondering if I did a trip to SP, tried these internet girls as well as hit the higher end clubs like WE, would I be able to top the Rio experience?

For those ass lovers heading to SP, this is my gift to you:

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Gabi/Ga...ft_free2005.htm

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=325

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Andress..._tdft_free2.htm

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=157

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=671

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=478

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acom...how.php?id=4715

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acom...how.php?id=3017

http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=aleixalins

http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=danielamello

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo...sticas/yoko.htm

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Natalia...ft_free2005.htm

Alot of those links don't work directly

Chantily has ads from Rio and Sao Paulo.

It all depends what your after. Without actually having traveled down there yet, I feel that SP was the best choice for the type of chica I was looking for.

SP is just different, you really don't have the Termas like you do in Rio. However the Clinicas are about as close I would say. If you didn't use the clubs then the internet, especially Chantily and GP are very reilable unlike the bait and switch I hear is often the case in Rio.

As I understand it Rio would go something like this -

Termas
Help
Other Clubs
Privates
Non-Pros and Semi Pros
Street Walkers

In SP -

Clinicas
Net Ladies
Clubs
Privates
Non-Pro/Semi Pro
Street Walkers

Going off strictly reviews and pictures, GFE seems to be equal across the board, but the women in SP tend to look better, more 8's and 9's and maybe a few 10's. In Rio it seems there alot more 5-6's and few 7-8's and even fewer 9's depending on what your attracted too. I'd also say the education level is higher in SP and the chances of your finding somebody that speaks even basic english is better.

Just the feel I have gotten from all the post and reports...

[Genghis Khan]

When Fernanda woke me up at around 8, I understood that she was energetically trying to explain something to me which I didn't understand. Then she drew a picture of me making a phone call to Vatel69. I took up the phone and asked her "Vatel69?", and she nodded. I made the call and Vatel69 and I tried to sort out what had really happened last night without coming to an agreement on what we thought was a reasonable explanation to the events. Fernanda wanted me to hand her the phone, which I did. She talked for a moment with Vatel69 and handed the phone back to me. "She wants to know if you would like to spend one more day with her", he said. This day was a public holiday in Brazil (I don't remember the name of the actual holiday). That was why I had originally planned the date with Ailine and her friend. Most clubs would probably be closed today. I asked Vatel69 if she had mentioned anything about a price to him. He answered that she wanted the same price as I had paid to Edson last night - R$1000. I told him that I would try to talk to her about the price myself. Vatel69 made me aware of the fact that I had already set up a date today with Ailine and her friend. I asked him if he could try to postpone that to the next day. Fernanda was afraid to do side business without giving Edson his usual cut of 50%. That was why she didn't want to go below her normal price out of WE. WE had recently done a big cleanout of the girls that did side business. Normally I wouldn't have bought such an explanation, but with Fernanda it was different. I actually believed that and in the end it turned out to be true. When I visited WE the next week, Edson knew I had been with Fernanda and he couldn't have known that unless she had told him and thereby forcing herself to pay half of the fee to him. When you think of it this was actually a much better deal than yesterday. Fernanda would now be available to me from 8 this morning until 8 next morning compared to 8 last night until 8 this morning - double the amount of time. So I told her I agreed and she started jumping up and down on the bed before kissing me all over my face. Then she went to the bathroom for a shower.

If you read back on my earlier reports, you will learn that I usually never do repeats without some time in between. I might seek out girls I like from a previous trip but I don't like to get to closely attached to anyone and stay away from close repeats. I have only done this once before - with Sol from my last trip. So you should know that Fernanda was pretty special - otherwise I would never have broken this rule. Her looks is almost perfect with a dark tan, long, curly black hair which almost shines in shades of blue (because of the intense blackness) and dark brown eyes. The shape of her face is small and petite with a sexy smile. She has two large, natural C-cups and a well shaped but round butt. Her figure isn't athletic with heavy muscle mass like in years of hard exercise but she has a natural athletic body with a tight and muscular stomach. She is about 160 cm long. I wouldn't describe her as petite. A better explanation would be curvy - to a degree of perfection. She is very soft spoken but has strong opinions - especially about food which she is very particular about - only pizza and steaks. lol

When Fernanda had finished her shower and I had shaved and showered myself, the time was around 10. We ordered some food from room service but my stomach which by this point was even more upset than ever couldn't handle much of the food, so I didn't finish my pasta. While we ate there was a knock on the door and it turned out to be Vatel69. He wanted to talk about what had happened yesterday and sort of clear the air - which we did and he wanted to get back the money he had given me last night because he needed it to pay M. She was waiting for him in his apartment for the money.

Fernanda was still a bit tired after not sleeping until 4 this morning and I was tired myself in addition to the upset stomach. So we went back to sleep until the time was about 3.

When we got up, my stomach still was badly upset but I didn’t want to spend the rest of the day in bed complaining about my stomach when I had such a great girl by my side. Vatel69 had invited us to come over to his apartment, so I called him and told him we were on our way. He told me he had a couple of girlfriends with him at his apartment. He also told me that the date with Ailine and her friend was successfully postponed until the next day.

When we got there the girls wanted to order pizza. Vatel69 was all for that too. I am not really that fond of pizza, but I had to eat something and with my upset stomach I wasn’t going to enjoy a fancy meal anyway. I was now just happy to get away with spending as little as possible on food for Fernanda. I wasn’t going to enjoy it that much anyway. To get out of my mood I had a couple of glasses of whisky that Vatel69 offered me and it helped. It kind of numbed the pain in my stomach too. We spent about 2 to 3 hours at Vatel69s apartment before returning to the hotel and had a really good time there.

When we got back to the hotel, Fernanda and I showered and got ready for bed. Fernanda understood I had an upset stomach and tried to please me as good as she could without adding to my pain. It was very sweet and affectionate and with a lot of muscular control on her part during missionary.

After sex we fell asleep again until she woke me up again the next morning around 8. She asked me if I wanted her to stay this day too, but I told her I wasn’t able to do so today. I would call her during the weekend – probably on Sunday.

GK

[Vatel69]

Hey FT or anyone else for that matter, is Bomboa open or closed right now? Thanks.

It´s closed.

[Comgo]

Hey FT or anyone else for that matter, is Bomboa open or closed right now? Thanks.

[Wandering Fool]

Just wondering for those of you who have seen both -maybe GK and others. How do the WE girls, Madame girls, etc of SP compare to the Termas girls of Rio (who we all generally agree are the hottest of that city and if someone knows of a better place -and don't say Barbarellas-please share).

I've done only Rio trips up to this point. Rio has the beaches the scenery the lower prices, the termas etc however if the girls of SP were noticably better looking, I might do a few days there. I'm always in search of the 9 with the J-lo ass, round but tight.

I realize this may be a loaded question since everyone has their preferences, so let me narrow this down. After extensive research checking the internet sites and reading checking the reviews on that GP Guia site, here are the girls in SP I would line up. This will give you an idea of my definition of hot -tight bodies with great round bunda's. These girls, at least by the photos, look better than many of the Rio girls.

So based on this look, I'm wondering if I did a trip to SP, tried these internet girls as well as hit the higher end clubs like WE, would I be able to top the Rio experience?

For those ass lovers heading to SP, this is my gift to you:

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Gabi/Gab...t_free2005.htm

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=325

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Andressa...tdft_free2.htm

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=157

http://www.ellass.com.br/modelo.asp?pid=478

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acomp...ow.php?id=4715

http://www.malicia.com.br/free/acomp...ow.php?id=3017

http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=aleixalins

http://www.abusado.com.br/nome.php?nome=danielamello

http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/...ticas/yoko.htm

http://www.erosguide.com.br/Natalia/...t_free2005.htm

[Genghis Khan]

I was hoping that you would not be offended by my comment. I really wasn't intending to suggest naivete. Still, when I've had a couple of drinks in brazil, my cognitive skills are often inversely proportional to my erection.

SD

I wasn't offended at all .

GK

[Full Throttle]

This is actually a PM response to another member. He was interested in spending around $200 per day, and was planning on sporadic play rather than daily. Feel free to pick apart...


In general, I've been going about twice per month for about a year. While there, I usually have two days where I'm not encumbered by business requirements. Your welcome to any knowledge that I have, however limited that is.

The big question is probably your aversion or attraction to the sleeze factor. Would you rather spend no cover and $5R for beers in a place where you might use a room with a plastic mattress, or $20R cover, $15R beers, nice rooms or takeout?

There are a lot of choices. In the middle of the spectrum, I would choose a good massage parlor (I'm partial to Clinica Kin), and go there 33% of the days. The mamason is friendly and sweet, and she will direct you to the best girls. Knowing you are a good customer, the service will get better every visit. Price at Kin $R110/hour. That is on the low end for the high-end places, and on the high-end for the low-end places. Got it?

Bomboa is probably the best middle option for the chica clubs. Cover (which includes 4-6 drinks), girl and room $R380. While ridiculous in my book, it is only 2/3rds the price of other similar places like Photo, WE and Bahamas. You could probably do this once or twice and be happy.

You could round out the experiences with some visits to the Augusta clubs like Kilt, Cocktail, Big Ben and My Love. Entrance, your drink (notice, no plural), her exit drink, and her will probably set you back around $R260. LoveStory experience about the same, perhaps $R50 less.

Internet girls are not my thing, because I love being out and about. However, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that, while their price tags are a bit higher, you don't have to pay for your transportation, drinks or entrance fees anywhere. So, a $300R girl would probably not cost you any more than any of the above options, when you get right down to it.


I should also mention that I (and YMMV) have enjoyed some of the best experiences at the sub-clubs on R. Augusta. 60-80R sessions have been great, and the one street girl I brought back was exceptional.

FT

[Dan D Dick]

sunday in sp. being the cheap bastard i am i decided to try something different [for me]. i walked the rua augusta from the renaissance at alameda santos to about the 300 block - just before big ben (closed sundays).

outbound about 9pm, a handful of obvious sws mixed with the fairly large crowds. lots of homeless sleeping on the steps. down about the 600-700 block several of the sauna mistas & american bars seemed to be in full swing. at least the touts were. some of the sws were gorgeous. there was one that i'm not entirely convinced of the true gender of & there was one oh-my-god one. i'm not entirely convinced he even bothered to shave his legs.

made my u-turn and decided to try a sauna mista for the first time. i went in the one immediately to the left & downstairs of the large marquee with "american bar" prominantly lit up. i think that one is casino's or caserios's or something similar.

i know zero portugese and those folks know just about the same amount of english. inside, downstairs into a sweltering den with one small corner stage & a pole. i sit at the bar, order a bohemia (skol not available). a young girl comes over but i'm not interested. i'm too hot & she's too flat. the bartender points to a fan on the wall. i turn it on & within minutes the breeze & beer start doing their work.

a second girl wanders over. she appeals to me for two reasons - she's 30 & her boobs are wonderful. at my age the young girls (<25) make me feel like a ****. you younger guys go for it!

some unintelligible discussion, some pen & paper pricing & i go for it. bottom line: r$100 for the girl plus r$52 for the room/cover/beer (that part is paid when you exit - they keep a tab for you). shower, lots of dfk, kissing all over the body, bbbj, futb (hers & mine! that was a first and i'm here to tell you that ain't exactly my cup of tea.....but she was game for it all, even with her tube of lube). daty, rcg, cg then on to a bbbj finish. afterwards a massage. then the buzzer goes off & it's time to shower.

overall, at my age, the quality was as good as it gets & the pricing outstanding. the room was fairly cool. but for you ocd & clean freaks out there, you'll probably have a few issues. plenty of soap in the shower (all previously used bar soap), mold on the walls, an occasional flying insect, an already-wet towel to step out of the shower on. if you can overlook those issues you'll have fun at a bargain price. otherwise stick with take-out back to your hotel. i don't know if that was available here or not (lack of portugese on my part).

but overall, fresh sheets, clean towels & a great attitude made this a memorable experience. julia gave me her phone number & wants to "sleep all night" with me.

return walk a little after 11. about the same number of sws though the crowds are about 20% of what they were on the outbound leg. about half the sws were the same as were out earlier. this could either be good or bad. i also noticed several cars stop & chat with the sws but never saw a sw leave with anyone.

[Aurab]

Still, when I've had a couple of drinks in brazil, my cognitive skills are often inversely proportional to my erection.

SD

Sal Dali,

I had a good laugh at that expression. My feeling is very similar to yours. After few drinks all chicas look so good! So guys take it easy on drinks until you make your chica selection.

Aurab64

[Sal Dali]

I was hoping that you would not be offended by my comment. I really wasn't intending to suggest naivete. Still, when I've had a couple of drinks in brazil, my cognitive skills are often inversely proportional to my erection.

SD

I am not as naive as the report might sound like. Otherwise I have no comment on a public forum.

GK

[Genghis Khan]

Genghis Khan,

I know that we've never met & that I may be way off base here . . . but is is possible that you may be misreading your environment as a consequent of the alcohol, complicated by misplaced trust? (I really want to apologize if this seems accusatory; it's not intended that way.) It's just that the way you describe the situation, it sounds like you're getting set up.

Just a thought.

SD

I am not as naive as the report might sound like. Otherwise I have no comment on a public forum.

GK

[Sal Dali]

Genghis Khan,

I know that we've never met & that I may be way off base here . . . but is is possible that you may be misreading your environment as a consequent of the alcohol, complicated by misplaced trust? (I really want to apologize if this seems accusatory; it's not intended that way.) It's just that the way you describe the situation, it sounds like you're getting set up.

Just a thought.

SD

[Genghis Khan]

When Luana didn't understand what I was yelling to her, I grabbed the phone and called Vatel69. I told him what had just happened. He told me that the girl he had brought home turned bad on him too. She wouldn't even allow him to penetrate her. So he had taken her back to WE and gotten another girl from Edson. She was with him now. He told me to call him in the morning and we would make a call to Edson then because WE was closed now. While I was on the phone Luana tried to make a call from the other phone in my hotel room. Before I had hung up with Vatel69, she had left the room. When she had left I noticed a note she had left by the phone. It was a phone number. Vatel69s phone number. I thought that was kind of strange but decided to sleep off the alcohol and have a straight head when deciding what to do about this.

One thing you have to keep in mind when reading this is that the total bill for Vatel69 and me last night was only R$1944 and the normal rate would have been around R$2500. Could there have been some misunderstandings about all night? R$800 for both of us (which is 2-3 hours take out) would make the bill about normal. If Luana thought I came, which was her argument to Edson (I didn't though) and we had actually only paid for 2-3 hours, this might not be entirely Luanas fault. Since she didn't speak any English she would not be able to tell me. Another factor into this was that Vatel69 had a bad experience too. Two bad experiences paid on the same bill on the same night. That could prove too unlikely for Edson to believe. Since Vatel69 had already gotten his bad experience compensated, it would probably be more difficult for me to convince Edson to compensate me too.

When I woke up at around 10, I called Vatel69 again and he asked me to confirm my story again. I did. I asked him if Luana had called him because she left his phone number. He told me that she had not called him and he didn't know how she had gotten hold of his phone number. He told me to come over to his apartment in about an hour and we would discuss the matter. I showered and took a taxi to his apartment. When I got there, his girl was still there. She left soon after I arrived though. Vatel69 also told me that he had received a call on his cell phone while we were inside WE yesterday - from a girl inside WE. She had apparently been sitting right behind our backs the whole evening without me noticing. Vatel69 wanted to know if I would like to meet her for lunch today because he thought she might like that. I answered - "Sure why not. A meeting is harmless unless there is some sort pressure or expectation from her side that I will agree to a date with her." Vatel69 assured me there would be no pressure. After a while he tried to call Edson at WE to make the complaint but couldn't get through to him. About half an hour later he finally got through to Edson, but the connection was broken while Vatel69 was in the middle of his explanation of what had happened last night. I told him that he shouldn't do this on the phone. I suggested we go to WE this night too and make the complaint. If Edson would let me have a girl for free as compensation tonight I would be fine, otherwise we should tell him that I wasn't going to return to WE again. Vatel69 agreed to this.

Vatel69 then asked what to do about the Madame as she had already called this morning in order to find out about our decision - and she had sounded a bit impatient. I told him that I had already made up my mind. I wanted a girl I had seen on the internet a long time ago. I will call her Miss F in my reports. When I saw she was available through the Madame, there really was no competition since I have had the hots for her since I first saw her pictures on the net a couple of years ago. Vatel69 immediately called the Madame and informed her of my choice. She wanted to know what day I wanted Miss F and I answered Friday. Today was Tuesday. I wanted Vatel69 to stress the importance of the BBBJ, which he did and she promised to confirm this when she had spoken to Miss F about the time of our date.

The Japanese meal from yesterday had upset my stomach again, so lunch was off the charts today too. I thought this was kind of strange since I had never reacted badly to any food in Sao Paulo during my previous trips.

Around 3 Vatel69 and I took a taxi over to Shopping Higienopolis where we were supposed to meet Aline - the girl who called Vatel69 inside WE yesterday. She was waiting for us when we arrived at the German bar on the upper floor in the mall. She was a nice looking morena but wore big sunglasses - hiding most of her face. Her body seemed tight, proportional and curvy at all the right places. I was getting very hungry and in need of a drink to get the slight hangover out of my head. So while Vatel69 and Ailine ordered a beer each, I ordered some finger food and a Caipirinha - which turned into three Caipirnihas with in a very short time. Ailine wanted to know what I thought about her. She didn't speak much English - so Vatel69 did the translation. I told him I was intrigued and liked her sexy smile, but would prefer if she took her sunglasses off. She did and revealed a pair of dark brown eyes. She looked great and had a dark and very sexy voice. I asked her how much she wanted for an all nighter including BBBJ and she answered R$500 which Vatel69 negotiated down to R$400. She also told us that she had many semi-professional friends that she could put us in contact with if we were interested. It was more the Caipirinhas talking than me when I asked her how her friends looked. She answered that they all looked better than her. I asked her how much her friends would be for an all nighter and if any of them might be interested in some lesbian action. She told us that she had several friends that might be perfect and she loved girls too - she said. It all ended with me agreeing to take her and her choice of girl for R$400 each for the night the next night. It was the first time I have ever agreed to take someone I hadn't at least seen on picture. Ailine was definetly hot though and there would be lesbian play among the girls as well. I was excited about how this might turn out. After Ailine had left us I agreed with Vatel69 that I would walk back to my hotel and take a nap before we would meet up and go to WE later.

Around 8, after I had showered and taken a taxi to pick up Vatel69 at his apartment, we were on our way to WE. Vatel69 told me that the Madame had called and everything was set with Miss F - even the BBBJ. On our way to WE we passed the neighbourhood the Madame had told Vatel69 she had her office, so he called her from the taxi and asked her if it as a good time for us to visit her. She answered that we were welcome and repeated the address to Vatel69. The taxi stopped at an office building in a neighbourhood I didn't know. Vatel69 rang the bell and the door buzzed open. We took the elevator up to the floor where she had her office and went down the hall to a rather anonymous office where the door was left open for us to come in. We entered and were greeted by two women. One was a young girl in her teens or early twenties (the Madame’s assistant) and a woman in her late forties or early fifties. The older woman came over to me and said "Hello darling and kissed me on both cheeks." It was obviously the Madame I had been talking to on the phone. Her office was a studio and was she was an artist. The madame service was just a side business for her. On a computer screen inside her office a computer was showing an advertisement for something with several naked girls on it. Vatel69 seemed interested about it and asked the Madame something in Portuguese. She replied to him that it was a party to celebrate an anniversary for her service. Several of her girls would be present and we were invited if we wanted to join. The party was the next night though. Vatel69 was occupied with work and I had already set up the date with Ailine and her friend, so we would probably be busy. She showed me some of her work which I thought was quite good and told me that she had spoken to Miss F and everything was set. Miss F would show up at my hotel around 7 and the other details I had specified was no problem to Miss F. She asked me if I had dates for the rest of my nights in Sao Paulo and I answered that I didn't. I would look through her book and do a second consideration if Miss F lived up to my expectations. Then we were on our way to WE.

When we entered it was obvious that we were a bit early because not many customers were present yet and Edson and Washington was not in at the moment either, so Vatel69 could not make the complaint on my behalf until they arrived. What we did (and this might have proved a bit unwise) was to tell the staff what happened and also some of the other regular guests present which Vatel69 knew. We sat down at a table on the first floor and got our bottle of red label from last night. Since I hadn't eaten anything but the finger food from the German bar at the shopping mall today, I asked for the menu and ordered some bolinhos de bacalhau and some bolinhos de queijo. After about five minutes I noticed a stunning morena sitting at the table behind my back with a couple of other customers. I told Vatel69 that I really like her looks. She wore tight white pants and a low cut, pink top which showed off her big natural breasts and tanned tight stomach. I couldn't take my eyes off her when she left the other guests and went over to the bar. Vatel69 tried to say something to me but I didn't even notice. He laughed at this and asked one of the waiters to bring her over to our table. After a short while she came over, kissed both me and vatel69 on both cheeks and introduced herself as Fernanda. She didn't speak a word of English (not a single word - not even yes and no) so this was going to be hard, but I wasn't ready to let this diamond slip through my fingers without at least giving it a try. Vatel69 could of course translate for us while we were inside WE, but once at the hotel we would be on our own anyway, so there was no point in postponing the fact that we had to learn how to communicate with each other. In the end Vatel69 came up with the idea that kind of solved the problem. We got paper and pen and started drawing simple pictures of what we tried to say to each other. It worked fine and the humorous side of it all broke the ice between us. They chemistry with Fernanda was definitely right. I had a couple of dictionaries at the hotel which we could use when Vatel69 wasn't around to translate what we couldn't figure out from the drawings.

After a while Vatel69 found a girl he wanted too, but our table was too small for four people so we moved to a bigger table upstairs. Vatel69s choice was a blonde called M. The two girls didn't want much to drink but Vatel69 and I emptied the bottle of red label we had bought yesterday and ordered another one. I had great fun this night and Fernanda made up for everything Luna turned out not to be. When we were ready to ask for the bill, I remained Vatel69 about what had happened yesterday and wanted him to address it now. He went downstairs and was gone for about fifteen minutes. When he got back he asked M if they could go somewhere to talk in private. When they returned Vatel69 told me what had happened. He said that both Washington and Edson had called Luana. Luana had claimed I had come. Vatel69 told me that since he had gotten a new girl for his bad experience, Washington and Edson decided to believe the girls version this time. They would however give me a 50% discount on a girl today if I chose a girl for R$600. That would mean however that they didn't want to see us in WE again - he said. Then he told me that M had told him that she would split her cost of R$600 with Vatel69 and pay R$300 out of her own pocket to spend the night with him. Vatel69 wanted to loan the rest of the money for her from me because he didn't have enough with him. M handed me R$300 and told me that since we would get only one bill for the entire table, I should have the R$300 from her. She liked Vatel69 so much, she said, that she didn't mind sharing the bill with him. What got me upset was that when I had handed the waiter my credit card and Ms R$300, M got upset, took the R$300 from he waiter and claimed this wasn't right as the R$300 was a gift for her. Then I backed out too and took my credit card back and told Vatel69 that I didn't want any part of this. He had to take care of his part of the bill himself. I told the waiter I would only pay for drinks, food and for Fernanda, but I wasn't going to pay for M. When they came back with my part of the bill it was R$1455. I was tired of the whole argument now and just wanted to take Fernanda back to the hotel. At the same time I was really in two minds at this point about who to trust. So I decided to sign the bill and get out. So we all headed downstairs and left.

On our way out Edson hurried after me and thanked me. Then he said something to Fernanda about my problems last night - and it seemed to me that he wanted to make sure the she knew she had to give me a good time. When we got out to the street they had arranged a taxi for us, but Vatel69 and M wasn't following us. After a short while M came too and Vatel69 followed shortly. When the taxi was half way to my hotel, Edson called Vatel69 and told us that we hadn't paid the whole bill. Vatel69 told me what Edson had said. Fernanda was R$1000 for the night (apparently Vatel69 couldn't get her price down and he didn't know this as he always got R$600 for all nighters) and the remaining R$455 on the bill was for food and drinks. We hadn't paid for M. Vatel69 thought that I had loaned him the money and signed for it on the bill - he said. So we had to reluctantly turn the taxi around and go back to WE. When we got back to WE, Fernanda tried to stop me from going back inside, but I did it anyway and met Washington just inside the door. He motioned for me that everything was all right by raising his thumb to me and saying "Okay"! Edson came too and in a friendly way padded my back and followed me outside. There he pulled Vatel69 aside and had a talk with him. I couldn't see any money exchange between them but Vatel69 got away by saying he would pay M in the morning. I didn't remember this but Vatel69 had given me some cash earlier in the evening that I was supposed to use on M and he thought I had loaned him the rest.

At this point I was just not ready to have a possibly wonderful night with Fernanda spoiled by starting any arguments, so we took the taxi back to the hotel.

Inside the hotel Fernanda tried to get me to explain what had happened but I just told her not to worry. It had nothing to do with her. Fernanda turned out to be great. Sex was sweet and more like sex with a long time girlfriend than with a working girl and at one point she came hard. Her legs, stomach and butt vibrated violently and she was so sensitive that we had to take a break. She also had the best control of her vaginal muscles that I have ever experienced. BBBJ was great too. The only thing a little negative was that she only wanted to do missionary or her on top. She didn't like doggy style. I didn't care though as her muscle control during missionary was great. We fell asleep and she snuggled up next to me while we slept. She woke me up again the next morning at around 8 when she had to leave.

I would like to add that both Vatel69 and I were a bit drunk when this happend and that might have clouded my judgement and memory of what happend this night.

GK

[Genghis Khan]

I was looking at the figures you mentioned in disbelief - 2500 - 3000 Reais por TLN???
If I want to drink a cup of milk, I do not buy the cow!!!
The going price for TLN in other parts of Brazil is 150 - 250 Reais (not USD) I honestly think that you had been set-up.
No girl can be that good to justify to pay 10 times more for her services.

That is unreal.

These are my 2 centavos

Carlos

Carlos,

If you are talking about the Madame service, I disagree. If you are talking about the prices I mentioned from WE, you must have misunderstood somethiing as the normal price of R$2500 I mentioned was for two guys taking two girls for the night including a bottle of whisky and some cans of Red Bull.

GK