2005 Sao Paulo Reports

[Big Beans]

Sorry for the long delay in posting, have not had much time on this trip to goof off.

I had a one night layover in SP three about weeks ago and I figured that without much time and no experience in SP, SG would be a good way to go. I sent a last minute email from Chile to him to see if he could tour me around when I arrived that evening.

I arrived in SP and there was a message from him to call. We arranged a time for him to pick me up from my Hotel and off we went. I did not have much time so he first took me to Azika (SP??) a club close to Bahamas. I decided that I wanted the girl that was stripping (built like a brick shithouse) so he arranged to have her sit with us. She spoke almost no english so he asked her if kissing was OK. She said no, which for me is a deal killer. I checked out the other 20 or so girls but nothing to my liking so off to Bahamas.

Bahamas was had a great selection of girls, the old problem of which one do I want?? He got some infomation from a few but nothing seemed to be working. Looked at my watch and decided that I better get with it or no sex tonight. Found a young lady that was to my standards, but of course she didn't speak any english. SG did some negotiating for me and off we went. He returned us to my hotel wished us a pleasant night.

Was staying at the Ceasar Park, close to the Interational Airport. No problem bringing her in. Had a great night with her and sent her off in the morning on my way to the airport.

This is more a report on using SG if you new the SP scene. He was well worth his fee. Not only did he save me all the cab fares, but he also got her to drop her Gringo price in about two minutes. Do not hesitate to use him if you a new to SP or if your language skills are limited.

BB

[Harry58]

WE is the actual name of the place.
GK

Hi,

I would like to know at what time WE open and close!

Tks for help

Harry

[DJ FourMoney]

I posted this on my home board in Miami, and I hope it's useful to the mongers here. Thanks to all, your posts enabled me to have a great time!!

Day 1: It was an 8 hour overnight flight from Miami to Sao Paulo’s International airport. Ten mgs of Ambian after our midnight Miami takeoff, and no one sitting next to me on AA 995, saw me next awake at 9AM Sampa time, which is 3 hours earlier. Carry-on only for the 7 day trip (2 for play and 5 for biz), I was quickly thru immigration/customs, converted US$200 to R$406, and soon spied Fernando, “Sampa Guide” to the SP escort and sex club scene as he was holding a sign with my name, as planned. I had hired F via email after reading some of his posts on the very useful on the International Sex Guide forum for Sao Paulo http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...read.php?t=572 and reasoning that with only two nights to play, a guide would help me get maximum bang (s?) for the buck; especially as I speak zero Portuguese.

The cab ride to the Hilton-Morumbi is 3/4 hour and about R$90, and since many of the sex clubs are closed on Sunday, my arrival day, I arranged for F to set up a 4 hour date with Bruna Spynelli, http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/...naspynelli.htm , a pretty blonde with several favorable reviews on the site. F’s regular rate as club guide for the evening is R$150, which we’d do Monday night. But for R$200, he’d pick me up at the airport, show me around a little (we had lunch at an upscale mall, Morumbi Shopping), set up the date with Bruna, pick her up and bring her home to save taxi fares, and arrange a Monday 4-6PM afternoon session with Carolina ( http://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/...linaburman.htm , and confirm her R$300 rate and service level). F negotiated Bruna’s rate from R$500 to R$400, which I could never have done, so for all this F’s R$200 fee was offset by what he saved me on taxis and Bruna, and my life was made much simpler. F’s an early 20’s college student, speaks excellent English, and I can heartily recommend his services to all. F advised never pay until the time was done, but in each case the ladies never asked for money and only at the very end as they were leaving did I bring out the cash.

F and Bruna arrived at 6PM at the Hilton, which is “escort friendly” and a very elegant hotel with an associated underground shopping center (here on Monday I converted US$ at the better rate of R$2.15 to $1.00, but it was closed Sunday); the center also serves two adjoining office buildings, much like the underground malls in Toronto and Montreal. We all met downstairs; no one wanted a drink, so B and I went up to my room on the Executive floor that needed its own card to access from the elevator. I knew from the start B spoke zero English, but she’s a very pretty blonde and her service level was said to be beyond GFE… full PSE as I found out.

A digression is in order. When playing in strange lands and hotels, I hate to rely on local radio for in-room background entertainment. I travel with a Toughbook that has a built-in CD-DVD player. And, I’ve found a great set of small speakers that get their audio and power via a single wire from notebook’s USB port; from Logitech, they have their own case and cost about US$80. These put out great sound, and the Sade in Concert DVD is always enjoyable while providing 2 hours of background music for fun.

Sade was playing as we came into the room. “Yes”, she’d have a glass of red wine. I like use “crew wear” from boat as a little opening gift, and B clearly liked. Inspecting Sade on the notebook’s screen led to exchanging small talk using Beblefish … but there must be some idioms in Brazil that don’t always translate clearly … perhaps Bablefish uses European Portuguese. Anyway, it was time to play and as we traded Bable-talk, it was easy to kiss. I knew DFK was a YMMV, so I didn’t press. Our hands wandered and we moved to the bed.

I’m a big believer in a "ladies first" policy as being helpful to having a GFE session. Tonight was no different. After we both were naked on the bed, from light kissing, my lips wandered down to her full B breasts I tongued her nipples and as I blew lightly, they hardened further from the cool breeze. She shivered. Moving further south, she was shaved except for a landing strip. My tongue teased and she opened her legs further beckoning me to taste more. I did for quite a long time until her flood of wetness told me she’d had an O. (B’s not a screamer she admits to being shy and blushes easily I found.) As I came back up to face her, her mouth was open and her tongue awaited mine she does DFK! Now it was her turn to taste me, and she did "sem perservativo" the BBBJ was great, but I made her stop as I didn’t want to finish quickly. After more cuddling, I covered up and took her first in mish tongues entwined, her legs wide, then over both my shoulders, then together and over one shoulder. The last readily became spoon with my hands fondling her breasts as we moved in unison. Her "oy"s intensified and I soon felt her moistness increase for her #2 "O’. We rolled into doggy with B flat on the bed her hips invitingly raised she hungrily took my thumb in her mouth, sucking aggressively as I thrusted from behind. I sat up, still straddling her legs, and eased my thumb into her a-hole. With my dick still in her pussy, I pumped both in simulated DP. Then pulling out my thumb and in my best porno style, I let a gob of spittle fall into the slightly puckered A-hole and grease the way for my dick that soon followed. Tight! She smiled in pleasure and I pushed in deeper. It wasn’t long before her tightness hardened me further and I knew my time was near. I pulled out, tore off the condom and rolled over. She knew what I wanted and smilingly took me deep in her mouth, stroking and sucking at once, wanting my nectar. My moans increased, but went unheeded as warnings and when my release came, I seemingly spewed for several minutes B wanted every drop all sucked from me and swallowed with nothing spilled. A PSE session worthy of the porn star she is!

B headed for the shower and soon I joined to be sure she was squeaky clean for round 2. I had wanted to go out for dinner, to be followed by fun back in the room for dessert but she Bablefished she had a commitment later, so we ordered room service. Done with time left for a second round, that didn't seem to be on the program. But that was OK I didn’t know if I could have delivered after all my travel and our first round was as good one could ever want! On the Saint Bart Scale, Bruna was 100% GFE with 2 Plusses an amazing time for the R$400, which at R$2. 15/$1. 00 coverts to US$186!

Day 2: Playtime started disappointedly, as Carolina was a no show F had reconfirmed her at 2PM, but then she called F at 4PM, our appointed time, to say her mother had just arrived. (F said she’d love to see me tomorrow, so I guess the excuse was real.) But, too bad for me. She had confirmed to F the same service level of Bruna, and I had booked C to eliminate the need to score a takeout from a club later that night I don’t like the one hour in a brothel room concept. So the pressure was on to find a replacement for the night.

F picked me up at 9: 30 and we were off on a 10 minute drive to a good mid-level club, Akaza; but unless there was something spectacular, next stop would be the nearby legendary Bahamas. Akaza was R$80 for my entry, but drinks were free until the entry fee was offset; F was in free. On arrival, there was the woman owner, 1 girl and about 12 male bouncers and waiters. Girls slowly drifted in some cute, but none worth taking to the rooms (R$60-80 plus an unknown for the girl). Around 11PM, with maybe 8 girls now working, one did a full striptease (very nice full C breasts! ). Time for Bahamas. http: //www. Bahamasclub. Com. Br/bahamas. Html Arriving at 11: 30, there must have been 40-50 girls, almost all light skinned blondes (my preference), with most standing/walking around in bathing suits. Located in a large house, the pickup action is on the entry floor. The lower level looks to be for overflow on a busy night. Like the main floor, there’s couches, tables and chairs and a bar, plus a small plunge pool stocked with foot-long fish clearly not for swimming despite the entry steps.

F and I took a table in the middle of the ladies. His last time here F said he had negotiated complete service, BBBJ and Anal, on behalf of his client for US$200 back at his hotel, or US$300 if she stayed the night. The same garota approached F as soon as we sat she was dark skinned and too thick, not fat, for me, but had extraordinarily beautiful big smiling eyes. She was an easy 8, but just not what I prefer. None of the others approached unless asked, but from 10’ away, they smiled and turned to display their assets. Lots of 8s and 9s, plus one 10, named Monica as we soon found out. An Angelina Jolie type with full lips, black hair, porcelain white skin, and a beautiful body with a great ass fully revealed by her thong. She sat for a drink her English was fair, in fact the best we found that night. She wanted R$1, 000 for 3-4 hours at the Hilton but no BBBJ or anal! : -(We dismissed her, but I kept inquiring over the next hour even if I took her to Miami and married her, there would still be no BBBJ or anal. Next! For over an hour we had ladies sit for their "interview". I never could have done it without F, but we were both disappointed in the responses. The 10 or so ladies I liked all said no to BBBJ and anal (although Lisa said anal OK, but no BBBJ), and for this level of service they wanted R$1, 000 or more for 3-4 hours in my hotel room. Then a new girl appeared on the floor, Clara. F asked the tall slim blonde to sit. Yes, I kiss, and do BBBJ and anal. F negotiated her to R$600 for 3-4 hours in my hotel (again paying his way). Off we went, but first our bill; the R$465 included R$120 entry for each us and R$120 to take Clara out. The rest was drinks. Clara was touchy and smiley from the start and when settled in the rear seat of F’s car, the DFKs began.

Back at the Hilton, DFKs led to the suggestion of a shower; we stripped, soaped each other’s nooks and crannies, and were soon ready to play. Clara’s about 5’8", slim with modest implants, and firm without an ounce of fat! She’s a pretty blond with full lips and an easy smile. From south Brazil near Argentina, she’d been in Sampa about 8 years and I guess she’s late 20s. She loved her pink crew wear and I delighted in removing the set as soon as she had put it on. Naked on the bed, she was very kissy and cuddley and I soon began my "ladies first" routine. C responded with several "0"s and we traded places and roles. It was 2AM, and maybe I was still tired from the travel, but the session while GFE in every way, never achieved the super-hot PSE level of the night before. But I loved C’s touch and cuddling, so after Round 1 I asked her to stay the night. She would for another R$300, to which I agreed. We fell asleep entwined. I woke up around 6: 30 and soon had C aroused. After brushing our teeth (she caries her own brush and paste), Round 2 began. Same as the first time, not over the top but very nice in a GFE way, although this round ended with BBBJTC-spit to earn Clara her 100%GFE-Plus rating. After dressing to leave around 8AM, Clara asked if I’d like her number. Not knowing if I’d ever be in SP again, I said "Yes" and saved it. This night proved much more expensive; Clara’s R$900 converts to US$419; the R$465 at Bahamas was $216; and F’s R$150 was well worth the US$70. Bahama’s should be experienced, and F’s help is indispensable for those new to the Sampa scene!

Excellent Report!

Everytime I read a good report and see a "dime" dropped by Sampa Guide I get more excited about my trip down.

Saint, you da man. I feel the same way as you do with about the gifts and "ladies first" approach you use to seek the ulimate in GFE/PSE.

You gotta return to SP, I bet you anything the GFE you got from either lady would be turned up a notch and that's always a good thing...

Thanks Again!

[Vatel69]

WE are the initials of the names of 2 of the owners.

[Comgo]

What the hell WE stands for.

Are you so lazy to write its full name for a newbie?

El Greco

WE is a newer high end place in Bela Vista where the entry alone is 150R or so. For the people that want the address and more information just take a look at the Sao Paulo Directory thread and it's listed right under Cafe Photo on page 2 right now.

[Comgo]

I have been there many times and my advice is only go there if WE is closed. That would be friday or saturday. WE is the ultimate club in Sao Paulo. Do a search and you will find tons of info on Cafe Photo here. www.cafephoto.com.br

GK

You're talking about the same WE where it's 600R for in-house and 800R for take-out, right? Why is this the ultimate club to you? The ultimate club for me would be the one with best bang for the buck. Are the girls at WE that much better that they're worth those prices? Do they coat your dick in gold or something? No offense, and perhaps you've had really good experiences there, but why would you want to spend that much in Brazil? You could probably find similar girls at much less expensive venues, no? I must say I have not been to WE so perhaps I'm wrong, but I have been to many other places in SP and I just can't imagine that the girls are that much better at WE.

[Peter]

I might be a senior member with over 600 posts, but i just now discovered there is a search within this thread function. when i did a general search nothing useable came out (but that was 2 days ago too). now i did a search in this thread and i feel like an idiot. although I do feel a bit like a newbie not knowing what WE is.

By the way the manager of my favourite FKK raved on about Cafe Photo, and he and i share a very similar taste in women.

[El Greco]

I have been there many times and my advice is only go there if WE is closed. That would be friday or saturday. WE is the ultimate club in Sao Paulo. Do a search and you will find tons of info on Cafe Photo here. www.cafephoto.com.br

GK

What the hell WE stands for.

Are you so lazy to write its full name for a newbie?

El Greco

[Full Throttle]

I am planning finally heading to Brasil. Some friends in Germany have told me that Cafe Photo is the ultimate club in Sao Paulo, but there is absolutely no info on the place here. I found a very brief description on another site, but not really a lot of info.

who has ever been there, and what can you tell me about the place?

There is a lot of information about Cafe Photo, but, not surprisingly, most users of this forum do not go there, regularly. Just like in Germany where there are ridiculously-priced strip joints just blocks away from an FKK club, Cafe Photo is a place where businessmen bring other businessmen to help close a deal or just to show off. It's flashy, but, in substance, fairly average.

Other than finding it and knowing how much you will pay (topics covered in the last 36 hours), there is not much to know. It is a nightclub scene with above average girls wearing classy-sexy outfits. You talk with them, flirt, negotiate, and leave.

It is a spectacle and if I were spending the euro on my first visit to Brazil, I would go to Cafe' Photo -- once. Then, I'd explore some of the really cool venues detailed on this board.

I sure miss Moondog.

FT

[Tricksta]

5 years ago Cafe Photo was the hot club. Now, having just left Sao Paulo, I can assure you that Bahamas has taken over that spot. Bahamas is The place to go now, in my humble opinion. Bahamas, along with Cafe Photo and WE, do represent the high end of SP, so get ready to spend some R$ -- vis a vis the lower end clubs like Kilt (where you can find one or two attractive women some nights). The entrada for Bahamas is R$121 vs R$190 (I think) for Cafe Photo. When you walk into Bahamas for the first time, you will be blown away by all the garotas who are walking around in dental-floss-like bikini. Mike Tyson was recently in town raising hell, and the club he chose to go to to harass women was Bahamas (not Photo). If I were you, I would also visit Cafe Millenium. It is cheaper than Bahamas (R$80 entrada) and also has a large selection of very hot meninas.

[Saint Bart]

Sorry for the double post. I submitted my trip report yesterday AM in two parts as I didn't know if there was a character limit. When it hadn't shown up by this morning, I posted it again thinking I had done something wrong the first time. Now that both have appeared, maybe Mod will delete the first.

The good news is that I added pix the second time. Someone wanted pix of a girl from a high-end club... see Clara's pix, she's from Bahamas.

[Aeroplayer]

Poor Mike T,

How come nobody tries to photograph me?

Anyway, I stay at Crowne Plaza, and have brought girls back no problem. They don't like multiples - guess they have had some problems in the past with guys getting ripped off.

Have any Forum Members been around when Mike Tyson went into action
thursday night at Bahamas?

Would be interesting to hear first-hand from fellow mongers how he handled things in there.

As it's said he was denied to bring up 6(!) GDPs to his hotel room (Crowne Plaza) the night before, seems not a guest-friendly place:-)

Frank

[Peter]

I am planning finally heading to Brasil. Some friends in Germany have told me that Cafe Photo is the ultimate club in Sao Paulo, but there is absolutely no info on the place here. I found a very brief description on another site, but not really a lot of info.

who has ever been there, and what can you tell me about the place?

[Sui Generis]

Is Bahamas open? Would appreciate some feedback.

Thanks

Dear John Corey,

As reported by the others posters on this forum, Bahamas is really open.

Maybe you've heard somewhere that Bahamas was closed. In a certain sense this is also true. But in this case it is the following venue:

Bahamas Club (ex-Centro do lazer)
Rua Paulino Fernandes, 32, Botafogo. Rio de Janeiro

This last one is effectively closed.

[Tricksta]

I was in Sao Paulo during the week of November 14, 2005. I had arranged in advance for Sampa Guide to (a) take me on a tour of nightclubs for one night, and (b) arrange for me to meet with some Internet girls. For anyone who might like having a Sampa native on your side, I recommend Sampa Guide. On (a), Sampa Guide offered solid value as he will drive you around for 4-5 hours visiting as many clubs as you would like. His fixed price for transport beats the sum of prices for taxis were you to do it yourself. In addition, if you cannot speak any Portuguese, he can help you out by negotiating with the garota on your behalf. He was able to get into the clubs we went to for free because he brings foreign clients there. So, if you want, he can be by your side for translation at no incremental cost to you. On (b), Sampa Guide did an admirable job making phone calls and setting up advance rendezvous for some of those internet girls. Just a side note, setting up dates with these Internet girls is an inherently unreliable business because the Brazilian concept of being on time, answering phones, etc. Is quite different from the US standard of punctuality and reliability.